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General Discussion / Re: Some thoughts on the new scoring system

« on: August 24, 2012, 01:35:52 am »

Getting the kill means nothing.

Then new patch should make it impossible for hit points to drop below 1. It won't make any difference since kills don't mean anything.

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General Discussion / Re: EU1 These Days.

« on: August 23, 2012, 04:45:09 pm »

People that were archers before did it despite not always getting a decent position on the scoreboard. Now we have dedicated archers as well as people who just want to score points while being able to survive easier over the whole course of a round. Longer you survive + longer you are able to put out damage = higher score. People naturally want to play classes that allow you to apply damage from distance with low risk but still good reward.

In current version of cRPG even the worst duelists get better score when they go pure melee instead of archery.

People switching to archers/xbows for higher score must be a joke. I have MW arbalest and MW bolts, and when I get mad at ranged score system I switch to pure melee with normal Miaodao, under 100wpf in 2H, 3 PS, and get higher score. With my melee skill.
Then I switch to STF shield+spear character (almost no armor - no gold for it) and get more points in one round than in four rounds as a crossbowman.


This cavalry/ranged/melee debate is as old as the game itself, and equally tedious, but as for scoring system the situation is pretty clear. Even when you see a ranged player in top5 (extremely rare) it's only because most of his points are from melee. And they would do much better if they were pure melee.

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Closed Requests / Re: Ban request: Wolves_Panos_the_Sinister

« on: October 02, 2011, 07:44:12 pm »

People like me? You mean people that are ready to straighten your story a little bit when you are leaving out some important parts in order to present yourself in a positive light? No, I am not defending Panos, just setting the facts straight. And for the record, I like trolls likes Panos much better than liars and whiners. And btw, nice job setting example for kids without manners.

@Warlord
OK, this is all true and Panos being Panos. I was just hoping someone else saw this righteous prick teamattacking the person he is asking to be banned. Thankfully, that much he confesses himself.

Liars and whiners? I did not post a single lie (unless you consider lying the fact that I defended myself for 5 seconds out of 5+ minutes - which I'm not denying anyway - although I understand you don't like the idea of victims defending themselves). Whining? You mean demanding a ban for a valid reason? Oh I'm sorry, I'm supposed to smile, be politically correct, and tolerate trolls and their fans? Guess what - everyone here knows I'm not politically correct, I don't smile, and I don't tolerate idiots.


That's all for me on this topic. You can continue defending trolls and trying to find superficial flaws in people who don't like trolls. Sayonara.


(Apologies to others for this lengthy soap opera.)



Edit: Well apparently he didn't even get temp ban although even admin saw he is griefing others as well. I have no intention to play in such an environment. I see that reinstalling the game was a mistake. You can rejoice now. Bye.

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Closed Requests / Re: Ban request: Wolves_Panos_the_Sinister

« on: October 02, 2011, 05:49:58 pm »

lol what?

The guy was FLOODING the chat, I called him a retard (which he is) and I went on with the battle. Considering that he spent 30min trash talking, what is your point? Yeah, let admins check the logs. Even now (while I'm posting this) he is trash talking and typing my name in the chan, and don't know what else because honestly I'm not paying attention.


He kept kicking me to prevent me from reloading my crossbow. I asked if there are any admins on the servers. No answer. Then I swinged few times with a military pick (mind you, I have no wpf or anything I'm pure xbow) which he blocked. After that he spent next FIVE MINUTES or more (I alt-tabbed out of the game) kicking me and annoying so I can't play the game. What do you expect me to do, melee with a teammate while my other teammates are dying because I'm not supporting them? And I suck because he blocked few of my swings? A-what?



So you came here defending an obvious troll, as you call him yourself, because what, you feel he is your soulmate? And you trash talk me here in this thread because I failed to kill him with a sickle?

Seriously, I haven't played this game for months and months, but if this is the state of this game right now, that people like you and him form a significant portion of the playerbase, I'm out again because quite frankly, I'm too old and too impatient to deal with street kids with no manners. Now flame away if you want. This is my only post in the forum in months and I wouldn't even bother posting if it wasn't for this.

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Closed Requests / Re: Ban request: Wolves_Panos_the_Sinister

« on: October 02, 2011, 05:08:13 pm »

Thank you Warlord.

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Closed Requests / Ban request: Wolves_Panos_the_Sinister

« on: October 02, 2011, 05:05:22 pm »

Continually kicking me on EU1 so I can't reload the crossbow.

Aside of that, continually posting trash and insults in the chat (which I can ignore because there are always some retards around.)


The others told me to ignore the troll, but preventing me from reloading is a bit tricky.
Also, he did this for personal reasons as he doesn't like me (boo-hoo-hoo).

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General Discussion / Re: Crossbows and the Return of FPS

« on: March 14, 2011, 09:54:30 pm »

As for the "muted only once" statement

I'm Muted once every 8 months on average. You on the other hand should be permanently muted because all your posts are trashy Balkan insults and shit talk.

Look at your posts just in this thread - all trash. Nothing related to crossbow topic. 100% trash. Trolling, demeaning, insults. Pathetic. And the best part you defending primitive and malevolent. I think we both know why.

Wow, im so owned.

Mirroring. Same thing Moist did. Pure mirroring.

You see, "owned" is something you won't hear from people who are not raging egomaniacs. They just don't talk like that.
When I type something, I don't type it to "own" anyone. But you, you think that if you out-insult someone you "owned" him and are crowned in glory.


There's nothing to debate with you, because aside of argumentum ad hominem your posts are shit. So what am I supposed to do now, continue this discussion so that I can "own" you by outinsulting you? I admit, I am not better than you in that. You see, I'm not even trying to be. I'm not trying to out-insult you, out-trash you, out-ego you. None of that. So go back to people who share that worldview with you, because I value completely different things.

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General Discussion / Re: Crossbows and the Return of FPS

« on: March 14, 2011, 09:12:10 pm »

Better primitive and malevolent then a retarded piece of shit like yourself. You got muted numerous times for writing shit here and you'll get muted again, no worries about that.
As for the dedication - the only dedicated thing you are is a dedicated asshole who after ages in this game still sucks in every single aspect of it so you need to make up for it by trolling about "tactics" while you clearly have no idea about the meaning of the word. Now feel free to go and relax yourself by hiding among the trees and running away from combat, thats what you do best.....actually that is the only thing youre any good with, about the top of the crop when it comes to your "tactical knowledge".

Gnjus, reading your posts is a disgusting thing in itself, and I have to wash hands each time I do so, but here it goes.

1. Your posts speak for themselves.
2. I got Muted only once, which was abuse of admin who I believe is no longer admin anyway. Either way, lying too much ha.
3. You can continue calling "fa-g-cher" anyone who disagrees with your way of playing. You can also continue to demean people, troll, and whatever. That's your mentality and your existence choice.
4. You're constantly insulting everyone in the game and on the forum. Unlike you, I only dislike few people, and even then don't post anything until they start it. So look who's talking. I believe you don't have a single post on the forum where you're not spitting poison on someone and trying to infest him.


All this coming from a guy whose clan has tag "my old friend" (not a coincidence) and whose nickname "Gnjus" means "slime / the despicable".

Now, by all means, feel tribal a bit more and protect your clan mate and kindred spirit.

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General Discussion / Re: Crossbows and the Return of FPS

« on: March 14, 2011, 08:42:41 pm »

Well arent we touchy Tajči, was looking forward to your bible answer but wasnt quite satisfied left me wanting for more...

Face it you will never be as good xbowmen as Dave, Ronald or Gnjus just to name a few so you and your higher tactics just might grab a bow and call it a day.

Now go on put your Mercs banner in a shameless attempt to rig in some x5˙s... oh but i forgot 7 draws in a day isnt a problem right?

Sad.

I'm sorry, all I could read is "My ego is bleeding."
Your entire post is mirroring.. and mirroring.. and mirroring.

You need a psychiatrist, not a computer game. Actually more of an exorcist, since you're primitive and malevolent.


Now excuse me, I'm going to have some fun with relaxed gameplay while your sensitive ego is suffering.

but since you cannot defeat my archer char in melee with your INF char, your opinion on both ranged and melee combat are not valid to me, sorry.

I don't have INF char, I have a dedicated crossbowman char that has 1H as a backup weapon. And even if I had a pure inf char, I would still lose to a good ranged player, simply because he plays better and stats don't give you instant win. I see nothing wrong with that.
If you only accept the oppinion of #1 player in the game, you might want to send message to his inbox, instead of participating in a public forum thread.

But if you have a desire to troll, then go ahead. I'll be playing my crossbowman and whatever else I like, however I like, and everyone else can whine endlessly. I'm deaf.

And blaming your net is why I have never died under your blade, but your life has ended under mine many times, Imperial Guard Tai Feng

Oh and what the hell is this, the Night of the Living Egomaniacs?

I don't even know what's your IG nick, and couldn't care less either way. But I somehow doubt I never killed you, considering I kill everyone at one point or another. But unlike you I don't count it, the game does that for me (in form of kills and deaths).

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General Discussion / Re: Crossbows and the Return of FPS

« on: March 14, 2011, 08:02:14 pm »

Well because of mr. Tai-Its a valid tactic-Feng and alikes that wont drop their ranged in all their generations atleast to try something else

Stop trying to shit talk me. I'm not renowned for liking emotional outbursts.
FYI, I played mostly with pure polearms, which, last time I checked, were melee weapon. As a matter of fact most people remember that I played a LOT as a peasant with nothing else but a fork - when everyone else was running in plate. Perhaps you want to say that's overpowered combination as well?
I played throwing 1 gen only, to see how it is and have a bit of fun, and was testing it on alt very shortly. Pre-patch I had a (horse) archer which I didn't use for a long time because I found archery boring.

Now that xbow wpf finally means something I am a crossbowman, because it suits my roleplaying (Rhodok/Chinese), and it is what I mostly played back in Native, and I'm going to continue playing it here and griefing all you "honorable no-fa-g-chers allowed" people as much as I can. I will shoot you all in the back as much as I can, I will use my athletics to run away, I will tactically force draws whenever possible, and I'll use anything and everything that isn't against the rules to annoy all you "honorable must-not-use-this" people.

In medieval ages Church banned crossbows because they were so effective and "unfair" towards poor pious knights. Well guess what, I don't care about your Church, I despise it, and despise 'codes of honor'. I will use tactics and revel in them.

I'm really tired with forum swarming with people who want to tell others how to play the game and how not to play the game.

Just dont have the patience to fight in the shadows or run around the furthest corners of the maps to avoid the barrage of arrows with probably 50/50 maybe less chance of sucession.

If you want to duel, feel free, there's a Duel server. Sayonara.

i just dont have the nerves to suck in arrows all the time.

It's called tactic. And being patient is about being tactical. BTW, every horseman will teach you that. Try charging a mob in the beginning on your horse. Doesn't work? Well guess what, that's because good horsemen don't just ram into enemy mob.

Ill grind 5 more mil. try to have as much fun as possible with my Maul, but after playing sunday for about 6-7 hrs in witch there were 7 (i counted) draws, i really need a break from the game.

You played 6-7 hours and there were 7 draws, and that's a tragedy? Wow.
Considering the Master of the Field didn't show up, that also means people were fighting and dying (and not being hidden). Ah let me guess, unless 100 people on a server all die within a minute, in a massive frontal charge, the game is boring, unfair, and something needs to be fixed. Uh, no.

The problem exponentially increase with total number of players in the server (the absolute number of projectiles flying)

That's true when it comes to crossbows, since in 10 vs 10 battle being dedicated crossbowman is pointless, while 50vs50 it makes some sense.
But let me ask you - if I had 3 sets of Jarid, and you were charging me 1 on 1 without the shield, what would be your odds of dying before you even reach me?

The entire point of having no shield and charging frontally is that you're at a disadvantage. It's supposed to be like that.

Main problem is: accepting the ranged playstyle as *equal* is just unacceptable to many. That's the real problem here - anything else is merely a matter of game balance.

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General Discussion / Re: Crossbows and the Return of FPS

« on: March 14, 2011, 01:29:16 pm »

I started to notice a few days ago the amount of missiles flying had dramatically increased and that infantry were once again moving back to the pre-patch situation where, in most village maps, you spent the first minute or two hiding and hoping your side won the shooting match. At first I thought we just had more archers in play, but looking at it again I noticed that there were an awful lot of crossbows. Once again, this isn't because crossbows are OP; it's because the steep increase in wpf cost means specialisation is less effective than hybridisation.

You made me go check EU1 now.

I did not see any problem you describe. I saw a LOT more archers than crossbowmen (as usual). And I saw a LOT of non hybrids, or at least people who in this game did not take any ranged weapon.



In short, you charge into battle at round start without a shield and to you it seems like everyone and their dog is having a ranged weapon. Make analysis of the weapons used by people on a server, and then we can discuss this further.

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Strategus General Discussion / Re: Strategus – Second hand information.

« on: March 14, 2011, 12:23:56 pm »

But Strategus is bugged (don't know why) with the last patch, it can't work as it's now, that's why it's down.

No, that's not the reason.


But I hope it's up soon because I'm no FPS player and Strategus is what made cRPG insteresting for me.

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General Discussion / Re: Crossbows and the Return of FPS

« on: March 14, 2011, 12:16:50 pm »

Its not like Im going to snipe anyone, but I can definitly start climbing a ladder with it, spot the archer at laddertop and headshot him with my 1 wpf. Dont really think its fair on him, he probably has dedicated himself to ranged, and I just bought this crossbow to be annoying.....

I don't see how that's different from taking a Pike just to fight off cavalry.

So you use 2 slots for expensive crossbow+bolts, which (if you're any good at being infantry) you will probably use once per round. That looks like a bad character build. You could've taken secondary melee weapon instead which would help you 10x more, or instead of IF put points in Power Throw and you'd be 10x more efficient.


Where are all these hordes of infantry guys who take crossbow as a backup weapon? I almost never see any.

I think a major issue is fairness> Lose a swordfight, you can only blame yourself, get shot in the back and you are much more annoyed since you had no chance to defend yourself.

If you lose a swordfight besides yourself you can also blame shared connection and wireless, both of which can drastically reduce the ability to fight in melee.
If you get shot in the back, you can also blame yourself because you had bad situational awareness and/or bad tactics. Of course, to players with FPS mentality, losing because of bad strategy should not happen - it's glitching, griefing, unfair, you name it. But not everyone playing MnB comes from FPS background, I for one played Strategy games.

I played on EU1 the other day and was appalled. In every frame I sent the first two minutes idling till the throwers have spent most of their ammo and the xbow hybrid my old friends took their cheap shots and came down from the roofs to fight.

That's exactly how the battle should look like.
And if you don't have a shield, don't maniacally charge at the enemy because you will get shot and it won't be anyone's fault but yours. Watch all good players and what they do at round start. They either flank, or they wait 30sec until throwers empty their ammo. Or, they use a shield.

Perhaps the only solution is to make two classes (YEH YOU HEAR IT RIGHT!): ranged & melee.

Why two classes? Why not 3 classes - cavalry included.

* if you choose ranged the cost of power-strike and shield skills are doubled

You forgot Athletics, because with your idea I would instead go for zero melee and 9-10 athletics. Just for the fun of it. And if you nerf Athletics be prepared to nerf Riding because you'll see a lot more of mounted crossbowmen. And if you nerf... you get the point

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General Discussion / Re: Crossbows and the Return of FPS

« on: March 14, 2011, 02:37:30 am »

Let's eliminate all weapons but 2H swords. We all know that's what medieval battlefield looked like.


Everyone else should run without weapons so that 2H guys can collect kills. You are not allowed to have any Athletics either or they will complain you're griefing them and that it's unfair.

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Spam / Re: Who thinks the New Crpg mod here sucks..Ooohhh I do!

« on: March 13, 2011, 06:21:09 pm »

It's not frustration, it's a fact about how the old crpg was better cause you actually had to work

Ah, one of those unemployed people who want to work in the game instead of finding a real job if they feel like working. Or if you already work, why not work overtime?