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Title: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Abay_ on January 14, 2011, 05:05:22 am

   I saw some Druzhina armors and like it.And I want to ask,can we add our special armors?I want to add some Turk ones.

   Thank you.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Baggy on January 14, 2011, 05:12:46 am
No
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Tornkik on January 14, 2011, 05:17:28 am
Idc what they put in, I just want more! More variety!
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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Abay_ on January 14, 2011, 05:20:44 am
I think this is possible...I will try to create some Turk armors to set them on cRPG and show them to you...Please wait my final exams  :o
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: ShinySpoons on January 14, 2011, 05:34:02 am
Heh, if you make em and they look good, past experience has shown that they'll be added.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Abay_ on January 14, 2011, 05:40:40 am
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Thank you.This make me hopeful
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on January 14, 2011, 08:04:01 am
I wouldn't mind. Can't go wrong with more gear.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: LordBerenger on January 14, 2011, 08:20:06 am
Only if we get Crusader Stuff to counter the Turk Stuff  :twisted:
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Siiem on January 14, 2011, 08:25:51 am
Only if mercs can have a heraldric armour with a cute puppy on the chest with penis head for ends. Then you can have your "turkish" armours.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on January 14, 2011, 08:41:18 am
I have two friends dabbling with couple Landsknecht-models, probably light and heavy ones, also Katzbalger-model(See the swords in the pic) is under construction. So if chadz & Co. are interested, you guys can have them as long as theres "Jolly" in the armor's name  :wink:

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Ballin'

e: Also voted of Turkish Janissary armor, if you guys can provide models for modders, that is. More stuff there is more fun this game is.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Helrekkr on January 14, 2011, 09:04:40 am
Would be really nice to get a nice span of armor types ranging all the way from western to far eastern.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Kunio on January 14, 2011, 09:34:43 am
More stuff, more armor, more faction = more fun

I usually wear Sarranid armors but they are not Turkish style, they're like Arabish style.... Turks are not Arabs... It would be nice if we can wear Janisary armors :)

Thanks...
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: SkyKghan on January 14, 2011, 10:44:58 am
definetly good idea... however all  the other faction's armor* should add to mod...   
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on January 14, 2011, 10:53:42 am
definetly good idea... however all  the other faction's armor* should add to mod...

we can, as long as modders themselves won't have to do modeling and tex-mapping they're happy to accept weapons and armor. (I think..?)  :lol:
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 14, 2011, 11:35:32 am
Oh hell yes, its really time for some turkish Armors.i think we got the last months to much western europe Armor and weapons.

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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Gristle on January 14, 2011, 11:40:43 am
Turk's clothing could barely be considered armor.

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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 14, 2011, 11:45:05 am
Wrong

under the clothes they carried lamellar or chain armor
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Jacko on January 14, 2011, 11:47:57 am
Some DRZ guys presented the devs with very nice armours and they got implemented. If you can provide them with high quality armour (Turkish or other) I'm sure they would implement it too.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Abay_ on January 14, 2011, 12:57:30 pm
I will try to do something on it.Thanks for interest everyone.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Gristle on January 14, 2011, 01:11:21 pm
Seriously though, any new historic armors would be very cool.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: SkyKghan on January 14, 2011, 01:14:32 pm
its from the turkish modders, maybe they wanna support you Abay...İm sure of this.:D
Simple examples:
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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Abay_ on January 14, 2011, 02:27:38 pm
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seems nice my vizier ... Also we can think some janissary armors like on my avatar ;)

I have to wait for my final exams to work on it...

PS:everyone!!!pls pray for me to get high marks my exams.thanks  8-)
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: SkyKghan on January 14, 2011, 02:46:41 pm
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seems nice my vizier ... Also we can think some janissary armors like on my avatar ;)

I have to wait for my final exams to work on it...

PS:everyone!!!pls pray for me to get high marks my exams.thanks  8-)

İ m sure, The Creator 'll help our Khan...
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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: magog_III on January 14, 2011, 03:29:48 pm
i saw some pirate armors added and these re looks like nothing... but special Turk infantry armors which re used for assaulting would be nice (esspecially 14th century)
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: zagibu on January 14, 2011, 04:22:13 pm
I hope you don't rely on our prayers to get high marks...

Some turk armors would be nice. I think their style is different enough from Sarranid or Khergit to warrant them.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: HELM on January 14, 2011, 08:29:58 pm
There is really a whole slew of armors from different periods from around the world that could be added. I would like to see any armor as long as it is pre-colonial etc. I wanna still have that BC/feudal/midieval feel to the game. On top of adding some nice ottoman empire armor stuff I think they could focus a bit on some Celtic stuff as well. Everyone is gagging for Kilts and Highlander stuff it seems so why not add some Britannia Graal Knight stuff while your at it :p . Oh yea and get some furs in there to beef up the german ic and celtic feel a bit.

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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: DrKronic on January 14, 2011, 08:32:52 pm
Can we get that axe too looks very choppy

I am very pro on the having more islamic armors

Ottomans and before them the Seljuk turks are very interesting It'd be cool to have some of their stuff
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Dunecat on January 14, 2011, 08:39:05 pm
Can we get that axe too looks very choppy

I am very pro on the having more islamic armors

Ottomans and before them the Seljuk turks are very interesting It'd be cool to have some of their stuff
Every time I see you, I hope that you are the Kron I know, but alas, you are not. Probably.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 14, 2011, 08:42:33 pm
There is really a whole slew of armors from different periods from around the world that could be added. I would like to see any armor as long as it is pre-colonial etc. I wanna still have that BC/feudal/midieval feel to the game. On top of adding some nice ottoman empire armor stuff I think they could focus a bit on some Celtic stuff as well. Everyone is gagging for Kilts and Highlander stuff it seems so why not add some Britannia Graal Knight stuff while your at it :p .
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Sry but this not a thread about european Stuff,why u dont visit or create one of so many threads about european Armor??

We got really much new west european platted body Armors or helmed on CRPG, the most middle east stuff are sarranid ones from vanilla (warband ) and chadz copy them only in the Mod.

I now time for  some middle eastern stuff
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Thovex on January 14, 2011, 08:54:47 pm
its from the turkish modders, maybe they wanna support you Abay...İm sure of this.:D
Simple examples:
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Sorry but I think those are REALLY ugly.  :|
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Ventus on January 14, 2011, 08:57:59 pm
I found this and i liked it  :) it's a special turk armor

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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: HELM on January 14, 2011, 09:18:37 pm
I found this and i liked it  :) it's a special turk armor

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That looks Pimp

This could be some Mid tire Ottoman armor
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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Nick_Larking on January 14, 2011, 09:20:03 pm
I want more leatherish looking armour.
More studded types of armour and multiple leather scale armour sets for example


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/Nephtys/Oriental%20Warriors/MS_Indian_armour_B.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/Nephtys/Royal%20Armouries/mughul_coat_of_1000_nails.jpg


Doesnt need to be historical accurate just cool looking and good enogh to actualy wear.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Toldfield on January 14, 2011, 09:23:47 pm
Doesnt need to be historical accurate just cool looking and good enogh to actualy wear.

There may be life on Mars. The Drake Equasion needs to be factored in, though.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: DrKronic on January 14, 2011, 09:30:33 pm
Every time I see you, I hope that you are the Kron I know, but alas, you are not. Probably.

I'm the original where did u know this kron from? I've used this since 1993
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 14, 2011, 09:37:08 pm
i found some amazing stuffs

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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: dagann on January 14, 2011, 09:51:33 pm
I found this and i liked it  :) it's a special turk armor

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A turk armor ? Lol  :shock:
Open your eyes.
The dragon is a good hint.

This is a chinese armor from the Qing dynasty.

Btw, chinese gears would be great.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Mr.Lion on January 14, 2011, 09:52:37 pm
I can only support more kick-ass armors making it into cRPG like those DRZ armors.
Keep those pictures coming and hope that someone will eventualy make one of those. :D
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Toldfield on January 14, 2011, 09:55:06 pm
A turk armor ? Lol  :shock:
Open your eyes.
The dragon is a good hint.

This is a chinese armor from the Qing dynasty.

Btw, chinese gears would be great.
I would like to express disbelief in your declaration that his intensity of vigor can be measured to a quantity in excess of a large sum, almost ascertaining the level of five digits.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: SkyKghan on January 14, 2011, 10:10:33 pm
Sorry but I think those are REALLY ugly.  :|

ya right, these are not high quality and yes maybe lookin ugly... only i wanted to say, before the warband some modders tried to make janissary armors already, and these * can be so nice after some development...   
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 10:15:49 pm
More stuff, more armor, more faction = more fun

I usually wear Sarranid armors but they are not Turkish style, they're like Arabish style.... Turks are not Arabs... It would be nice if we can wear Janisary armors :)

Thanks...

Due to the geographical locations and history, the armor would probably be a little bit similar, though. :O
And Turks and Arabs are a little similar, too.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Abay_ on January 14, 2011, 10:26:08 pm
  I found 2 photos about ottoman armors...I think to do somehting like these

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 PS:I read what all of you wrote here...Thanks for your comments and different thinks...I will consider all of them
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 10:53:09 pm
  I found 2 photos about ottoman armors...I think to do somehting like these

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 PS:I read what all of you wrote here...Thanks for your comments and different thinks...I will consider all of them

You could totally make the bottom one with the gear they already have. Lol.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Kophka on January 14, 2011, 11:18:21 pm
Another suggestion along these lines. Why do we still have the old Norse shields in crpg. Does there really need to be 10 Norse shields? How about taking a couple of them, and reskinning for other cultures, Byz, Ottoman, Rus? Also, why not get a couple of oval shields into replace or add?
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: SkyKghan on January 14, 2011, 11:30:33 pm
Due to the geographical locations and history, the armor would probably be a little bit similar, though. :O
And Turks and Arabs are a little similar, too.

Ma friend, We only share the same religion with them...(similarity) and sarranid far from The Turk armors...

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these are lookin so good, janis...really...

  I found 2 photos about ottoman armors...I think to do somehting like these

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nice samples...especially i liked the first one...
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 11:35:04 pm
Ma friend, We only share the same religion with them...(similarity) and sarranid far from The Turk armors...

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these are lookin so good, janis...really...
 

nice samples...especially i liked the first one...

The Sarranid isn't Arabic, either. also, I supported your idea. I'm not trying to bash it :]
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Ventus on January 14, 2011, 11:40:39 pm
A turk armor ? Lol  :shock:
Open your eyes.
The dragon is a good hint.

This is a chinese armor from the Qing dynasty.

Btw, chinese gears would be great.

I found here --> http://photo.ftw.fm/main.php/v/kesha/things/Turkish-Armor.jpg.html (http://photo.ftw.fm/main.php/v/kesha/things/Turkish-Armor.jpg.html)
I apologize if wrong
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Mr.Lion on January 14, 2011, 11:40:59 pm
The Sarranid isn't Arabic, either.
Ofcourse not but each faction is based on a real civilization. Do you see the link between the ingame Sarranids and the Saracens?
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: dagann on January 15, 2011, 12:06:29 am
I found here --> http://photo.ftw.fm/main.php/v/kesha/things/Turkish-Armor.jpg.html (http://photo.ftw.fm/main.php/v/kesha/things/Turkish-Armor.jpg.html)
I apologize if wrong

Not your fault is this website is wrong. :lol:
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: DrKronic on January 15, 2011, 12:31:40 am
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/47807.jpg

This is ottoman mamluk armorered horse from 1550 I bet with what's in the game u can pretty much make this guy but the helm is cool

I wasn't aware that ottomans kept the warrior slave mamluk caste when they conquered egypt I figured they were good just with the orthodox christians kids taken to be jannissaries as their elite
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Dede on January 15, 2011, 12:43:23 am
I have already started to create some Ottoman models. However, I am very lazy, because the mod is very attracting and I cant stop playing. :P

With this helmet, I'm almost done:
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And I would not say that there are no similarities between "Turkish" and "Arab" armor. The Ottomans were a multi-ethnic empire, and they were influenced by many ethnic groups. The Janissaries, however, were unique.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 15, 2011, 01:43:42 am
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/47807.jpg

This is ottoman mamluk armorered horse from 1550 I bet with what's in the game u can pretty much make this guy but the helm is cool

I wasn't aware that ottomans kept the warrior slave mamluk caste when they conquered egypt I figured they were good just with the orthodox christians kids taken to be jannissaries as their elite

yes mamelukes are turkish,this is why they stopped the mongol invasion on middle eastern,they battle steppe tactic was the same like mongols.they were the only ones who could stop the invasion and thus saved the entire north african continent.


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I have already started to create some Ottoman models. However, I am very lazy, because the mod is very attracting and I cant stop playing.

With this helmet, I'm almost done:
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And I would not say that there are no similarities between "Turkish" and "Arab" armor. The Ottomans were a multi-ethnic empire, and they were influenced by many ethnic groups. The Janissaries, however, were unique.

was done?? u kidding

i want see pics  :shock:

Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: zagibu on January 15, 2011, 03:19:36 am
I have nothing against fancy armor, but isn't this helmet in particular more of a ceremonial piece? Maybe don't make it quite so gilded.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on January 15, 2011, 03:36:26 am
I say if it's historic, and if it looks cool, and if someone can make it, then it'd be epic to see in cRPG. I'm sure many others feel this way, however armor doesn't make itself :P
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Mr.Lion on January 15, 2011, 02:34:19 pm
Dede, can you post some pictures of the work you've already done?
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Dede on January 16, 2011, 11:15:43 am
Hopefully I can finish the texturing part today. Then tomorrow I can post some pictures.
I should mention that I dont make the same chichack helmet what Janis_Corp posted. This magnificently decorated golden Vezierhelmet was probably not widespread.
But the form is the same, just with an other ornament decoration.

Someone knows how the polearm in this picture is called?  (Left guy with shield and polearm. Turkish version of the "English Bill" or a Klingon weapon? :))
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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: verinen on January 16, 2011, 11:44:42 am
Someone knows how the polearm in this picture is called?  (Left guy with shield and polearm. Turkish version of the "English Bill" or a Klingon weapon? :))
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Some kind of gisarm
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: andonai on January 16, 2011, 12:23:38 pm
perhaps this is what are you looking for...
Turkish equipment for Warband:
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Janissary equipment for Warband:
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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Elmetiacos on January 16, 2011, 02:05:46 pm
More models tends to affect the game's performance, remember. But do we really need all those dresses and peasant shirts in all those different colours? They could make way for Ottoman stuff.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Tristan on January 16, 2011, 02:08:46 pm
More models tends to affect the game's performance, remember. But do we really need all those dresses and peasant shirts in all those different colours? They could make way for Ottoman stuff.

+1

and other sweet stuff. the studded leather needs a revamp as well...
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Dede on January 16, 2011, 02:25:59 pm
Some high poly models are not optimized for the game. They have still no Lod stages after patch.
The new DRZ Armors are for example good optimized and also look very good.
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,144724.msg3567377.html#msg3567377

For my models the optimization will have a important role.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: andonai on January 16, 2011, 04:14:52 pm
perhaps this is what are you looking for...
Turkish equipment for Warband:
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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Abay_ on January 16, 2011, 05:58:53 pm
seems ok
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 16, 2011, 09:49:39 pm
ill found some eastern shields
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founded from this thread

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,123201.0.html
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: HeroZero on January 17, 2011, 05:13:09 am
Idc what they put in, I just want more! More variety!
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Jerks? We've been using it since M&B too bud.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Noctivagant on January 19, 2011, 07:00:54 am
I already made some yatagan and kilij models but never gathered into one brf file, maybe I should.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: BattalGazi on January 19, 2011, 05:14:00 pm
I totally support Turkish armors and equipment to be added to the game. As the game takes place in mid 13th century, it would be a mistake to ignore Turkish equipment.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Ardean on January 19, 2011, 05:42:31 pm
Yup, some turkish armour would be great! Might even make me start yet another character. :P
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Dede on January 19, 2011, 06:49:24 pm
Finally done with the texturing, hope you guys like it.
This is my first M&B Model.

Ottoman cavalry chichak helmet:
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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Beans on January 19, 2011, 07:02:13 pm
Looks great
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: DrKronic on January 19, 2011, 07:04:03 pm
Ima lookin and ima likin

Berry nice
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Abay_ on January 19, 2011, 07:06:53 pm

   Seems,cool Dede...Hope we can create something more soon  :o  Ellerine sağlık  :)
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: BattalGazi on January 19, 2011, 07:10:33 pm
Looks awesome Dede, good job !!

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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Jorium on January 19, 2011, 07:12:17 pm
I love the helmet.  Would buy it and wear it right now if it's included.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Noctivagant on January 19, 2011, 08:09:19 pm
perhaps this is what are you looking for...
Turkish equipment for Warband:
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Janissary equipment for Warband:
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Landsknecht equipment for Warband:
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Send me these models and I'll fix their textures for you with their normal maps.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Tornkik on January 19, 2011, 08:16:38 pm
Jerks? We've been using it since M&B too bud.

Prove it.  :P
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Dede on January 19, 2011, 08:20:14 pm
Thanks, I have worked really hard on this one, hopefully it gets added to the mod.

@Noctivagant
I already made some yatagan and kilij models but never gathered into one brf file, maybe I should.
Do you have some renders? Maybe we can work together and finish Ottoman armor and weapon sets. I also plan to model some weapons. But if you already have that, I dont  need  do it again. :)
My next model  probably will be the "Janissary" or the "Solak" helmet. The posted one on this thread look toyishly, we need an other one.

Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: AssPunisher on January 19, 2011, 09:51:22 pm
Not my style but more gear variety is always welcome!
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Ardean on January 19, 2011, 10:03:16 pm
Finally done with the texturing, hope you guys like it.
This is my first M&B Model.

Ottoman cavalry chichak helmet:
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Your first, you say? Then that's a darned good first try! :o
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 19, 2011, 11:55:23 pm
Dede i love you :)

Its a amazing Kapikuli Helmed
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Kunio on January 20, 2011, 03:42:49 pm
Finally done with the texturing, hope you guys like it.
This is my first M&B Model.

Ottoman cavalry chichak helmet:
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i think it will be awesome in game :)
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Abay_ on January 20, 2011, 03:58:35 pm
I like especiallyt back-base part :)) seems cool
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: zagibu on January 20, 2011, 06:02:11 pm
Very good work, I like it a lot. I don't know how the textures will look ingame, though, maybe they need more shine.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 20, 2011, 07:00:29 pm
Yes more shine will be great.

Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: UrLukur on January 20, 2011, 07:04:50 pm
Maybe do some earlier turk armors, those are bit late-ish.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Abay_ on January 20, 2011, 07:59:58 pm
I dont think so...Seljuk uses some armors like it...
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Jan_ on January 20, 2011, 11:12:41 pm
If something gonna be add belongs to Turks, it should be everything added from helmet from to foot armor. ( swords, body armor exc.) . Because every of them carries characteristic speciality. Every of these pieces different from the other factions. I think they must be picked up from the Seljuks because single player game date shows us the Seljuk's last, Ottoman's first time period

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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: sami1337 on January 20, 2011, 11:30:09 pm
Maybe do some earlier turk armors, those are bit late-ish.

I agree. This seems to be 16th century.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Dede on January 21, 2011, 11:33:57 am
Your first, you say? Then that's a darned good first try! :o
Not  my first at all, but my first for such a game like M&B. :)

Very good work, I like it a lot. I don't know how the textures will look ingame, though, maybe they need more shine.
Ingame all parts will be shiny except the feathers.

I agree. This seems to be 16th century.
I think it fits very well . And there are already a lot of plate armor and helmets in cRPG.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: SkyKghan on January 21, 2011, 01:14:15 pm
whata nice helmet dede, (Gözümsün:)) ... +++ from me... 
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Mr.Lion on January 23, 2011, 08:45:22 pm
Very nice.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Sultan Eren on January 24, 2011, 02:16:02 am
Quote
Maybe do some earlier turk armors, those are bit late-ish.
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I agree. This seems to be 16th century.

My personal idea is there shouldn't be Ottoman armours but Sarranaid - Kergit mixed REALISTIC - HISTORICAL armours. Jannisarry stuff is not for this game is not for this era.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: andonai on January 24, 2011, 02:51:23 am
Send me these models and I'll fix their textures for you with their normal maps.
I can upload the whole pack to rapidshare if you like...
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 24, 2011, 09:18:36 am
My personal idea is there shouldn't be Ottoman armours but Sarranaid - Kergit mixed REALISTIC - HISTORICAL armours. Jannisarry stuff is not for this game is not for this era.


So i think much peoples want to see a Stuff from the ELITE Troops of Ottoman Empire,

because in the mod selection anyway a lot about khergit sarranid stuff there .
a Janissary equipment would be unique

why should not Janissaries in this period of his?

they existed in the early Middle ages of 13th century until to beginning the 17.century

i think they are on the right place
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: MountedRhader on January 24, 2011, 09:48:02 am
Heck, if they add Turkish armor they gotta add Lorica Segmentata too!  :D


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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 24, 2011, 11:43:28 am
this is not a thread about antice stuff,u cant read?

we got tons of threads like romans stuff ect.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Bjord on January 24, 2011, 12:44:59 pm
Send me these models and I'll fix their textures for you with their normal maps.

Make sure you revamp some of the textures. The landsknecht one needs some serious tweaking. Make it shinier, etc.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Sultan Eren on January 24, 2011, 02:15:02 pm

So i think much peoples want to see a Stuff from the ELITE Troops of Ottoman Empire,

because in the mod selection anyway a lot about khergit sarranid stuff there .
a Janissary equipment would be unique

why should not Janissaries in this period of his?

they existed in the early Middle ages of 13th century until to beginning the 17.century

i think they are on the right place

1200ad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Premongol.png

So which 13.cent there were "jannisaries" which i don't know? There is no this kind of Ottoman stuff until 1400's. Sorry but i don't wanna play with "Fantasy Items" as a TURK.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Bjord on January 24, 2011, 03:47:05 pm
Anything between 1200-1600 AD is fine according to Urist and balancing team.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: zagibu on January 24, 2011, 04:21:24 pm
Yeah, I don't really see a problem with armor of a later period, as long as it still fits in with the rest of the items. I mean, we already have samurai armor, so...
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 24, 2011, 06:44:33 pm
Yeah, I don't really see a problem with armor of a later period, as long as it still fits in with the rest of the items. I mean, we already have samurai armor, so...

me too.

But i dont know what for shit Eren smoke today.

This is a medieval game or u know in which period Warband (Crpg) play??
we are talking about a difference of 100 years.
I would understand when it comes to ancient things.


You exaggerate,make as if Janissarie stuff an iron man Suit of the future
Tell me honestly that you hate Janissaries, unfortunately

116 votes against you

Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Sultan Eren on January 24, 2011, 06:52:58 pm
When there were crusaders there were not janisarries. Jannisary armour -the hat especially- comes even after the conquest of Istanbul. So adding this kind of stuff will be nothing more than FANTASY so I personally do not want Jannisary armour.

I am obsessed with medieval age!
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 24, 2011, 08:20:28 pm
Me too , and what is with gothic plate? u know from which century they got ?
early the 16.Century

Janissaries were the elite unit in the High Middle Ages
anyway, why they do not, I do not
understand.

no one expects them they have to buy it, if
clothing will give it Janissaries


When u want more selcuq stil,we have enough lamellar west  :lol:
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: zagibu on January 24, 2011, 09:06:56 pm
Mongols never fought Vikings in the real world, yet in Calradia, Nords fight Khergit. It's not a simulation, it's a fantasy game influenced by various real cultures, nothing more.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: DrKronic on January 25, 2011, 12:30:53 am
Actually the mongols wtfpwned russia until the tsars came about and threw off the yoke off the golden horde, but golden horde basically had russia with the rus "prince" allowed to run the gov

When the horde invaded europe they soundly defeated an army of polish and teutonic knights 1250 or so

Not exactly vikings but mongols definitely kicked basically everyones ass on their initial invasions the infighting after ghenghis was gone basically weakened every khan after

The only thing that stopped the full scale invasion of europe was the death of their khan
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: zagibu on January 25, 2011, 01:31:16 am
Vikings were 800 - 1150 approximately. I really don't think the Mongols invented time travel.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: UrLukur on January 25, 2011, 01:32:28 am
Vikings were 800 - 1150 approximately. I really don't think the Mongols invented time travel.

They did! But filthy anti-mongol propaganda striped them out of it :(
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: BattalGazi on January 25, 2011, 03:25:34 am
So the topic was whether to include Turkish armor/weapon sets to the game or not :) I believe that if we are to stick with the Mount&Blade era, which is approximately 1st half of 13th century, Turkish armors should suit to Anatolian Seljuks'. In this case we should be expecting lamellar like scale armors, mail armors along with schimitar like swords. The "janissary" that we speak of is established at the end of 14th century which is out of Mount&Blade era. However, we see different armors and weapons belonging to late 16th century in the cRPG game, so "Janissary" and "Kapıkulu" brand soldier types, along with sub groups, such as Sipahis, Azabs, Serhad Kuls ... coud be given a chance in the game. The only suggestion I can give is to ignore the fact that Janissaries were merely firearm units deployed with heavy armor and auxillary swords. If we do not include fire arms, janissaries and all other members of Turkish army belonging to 13-16th centuries, could be included in the game.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Sultan Eren on January 25, 2011, 03:30:51 am
Firearms=Shit
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Bjord on January 25, 2011, 10:45:35 am
Why don't you leave this type of discussion to the dev team? You have little say in what armours are added anyway.

Be happy if it's Ottoman-related armoury, you are the Turks after all, no? I would be happy if there was RP-specific items for my clan, at least.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Camaris on January 25, 2011, 10:53:39 am
Personally i do support you with your idea of turkish armor.
I cant say that there is so much medieval flair left with ninjas (have no problem with them running around)
and Manga-Hair (hate it) already ingame ;)

DRZ just looks cooler now after they chose to only wear the drz Armor.
So why not let some other Clans look cool.

As long as it keeps historical.
I dont want WoW-Style Armors ;)
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 25, 2011, 12:07:21 pm
Why don't you leave this type of discussion to the dev team? You have little say in what armours are added anyway.

Be happy if it's Ottoman-related armoury, you are the Turks after all, no? I would be happy if there was RP-specific items for my clan, at least.

Yep i really dont understand Battalgazi and Sultan Erem.
if they prefer in sheep's clothing and turban
fight,then they should.


@Battalgazi
Janissaries were not only with muskets,there were heavy into lamellar scale armor and a light one as Archers
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: BattalGazi on January 25, 2011, 12:33:28 pm
Yep i really dont understand Battalgazi and Sultan Erem.
if they prefer in sheep's clothing and turban
fight,then they should.


@Battalgazi
Janissaries were not only with muskets,there were heavy into lamellar scale armor and a light one as Archers

It is clear that you didn't understand me, I'm supporting the idea of adding armors :) To my knowledge, janisseries were the elite heavy troops who were directly under the command of the sultan. It is possible to assume that they were light infantry & archers in their earliest ages but they were really heavy carrying firearms after that. There're a bunch of other divisions who were light infantry and archer units though. For your interest, you may want to look at the following source:
"The Ottoman Empire: Classical Age 1300-1600", Halil Inalcık,
http://www.amazon.com/Ottoman-Empire-Classical-Age-1300-1600/dp/1842124420/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1295955019&sr=8-1-spell (http://www.amazon.com/Ottoman-Empire-Classical-Age-1300-1600/dp/1842124420/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1295955019&sr=8-1-spell)
I really recommend it as this book has been used as coursebook for many foreign historians. The things I'm talking about are all extracted from this book.

For the guy who says that it's not our business to discuss this topic as we are Turks, it is kind of ambigious to say that right?
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Bjord on January 25, 2011, 01:10:56 pm
For the guy who says that it's not our business to discuss this topic as we are Turks, it is kind of ambigious to say that right?

Read again, I didn't imply that the two of you had no right to discuss Ottomans/Turks, I simply said that in the end it's the dev team that decides what armours are appropriate for the mod and what armours aren't.

Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Siiem on January 25, 2011, 01:13:23 pm
I hope they get really shitty stats considering that like everything made by sandniggas the armours are made off sand. And as such they should break real easily.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Bjord on January 25, 2011, 01:16:05 pm
I hope they get really shitty stats considering that like everything made by sandniggas the armours are made off sand. And as such they should break real easily.

Oh no, Siiem... You didn't just say that...

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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Siiem on January 25, 2011, 01:18:17 pm
Oh no, Siiem... You didn't just say that...

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It's the truth, can't hide the prophets forever!
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Sultan Eren on January 25, 2011, 01:40:54 pm
chocolate chip cookie alert.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Siiem on January 25, 2011, 01:43:25 pm
chocolate chip cookie alert.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Xant on January 25, 2011, 02:04:13 pm
get off this thread you dirty little chocolate chip cookie siiem
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 25, 2011, 02:27:40 pm
I hope they get really shitty stats considering that like everything made by sandniggas the armours are made off sand. And as such they should break real easily.

you're right siem. European wigs and tights
are much cooler :P

We have too a nursery school thread.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: CoMMoDoRe on January 25, 2011, 03:56:01 pm
to Siiem:

I hope they get really shitty stats considering that like everything made by sandniggas the armours are made off sand. And as such they should break real easily.

I think you have never read any history books about the Ottomans, they were the best army in the past. And they are not Arab !!! You are talkin' about the Arabs like that "everything made by sandniggas the armours are made off sand".

I suggest that you should read and search much more...
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: BattalGazi on January 25, 2011, 04:20:07 pm
Read again, I didn't imply that the two of you had no right to discuss Ottomans/Turks, I simply said that in the end it's the dev team that decides what armours are appropriate for the mod and what armours aren't.

So the objective of this topic is to raise the awareness of the dev team ( or anyone who is willing to help them ) to include Turkish armors and weapons in the game. I believe poll results and majority of the topic posts show that players would gladly appreciate addition of these armours and weapons.

Except but Siiem, he's just trolling ...
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Bjord on January 25, 2011, 04:22:33 pm
So the objective of this topic is to raise the awareness of the dev team ( or anyone who is willing to help them ) to include Turkish armors and weapons in the game. I believe poll results and majority of the topic posts show that players would gladly appreciate addition of these armours and weapons.

Except but Siiem, he's just trolling ...

Yes, and yet again I did not say "stop discussing". What I meant was, there's no need to argument whether they should be added or not, since it's not up to us. However, discussing it in its entirety, do it by all means. And because personally to me, variation is the spice of life, I would be glad if they were added. Might even make a janissary alt.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: BattalGazi on January 25, 2011, 04:29:20 pm
Yes, and yet again I did not say "stop discussing". What I meant was, there's no need to argument whether they should be added or not, since it's not up to us. However, discussing it in its entirety, do it by all means. And because personally to me, variation is the spice of life, I would be glad if they were added. Might even make a janissary alt.

We are talking about the same thing, of course the final decision belongs to dev team. We are just expressing the needs of public here :)
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on January 25, 2011, 04:34:11 pm
What dede doing ?

Maybe he need some help.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Noctivagant on January 25, 2011, 09:35:55 pm
Sand armor? friends? chocolate chip cookie?

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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Kopcap on January 26, 2011, 05:13:14 am
Finally done with the texturing, hope you guys like it.
This is my first M&B Model.

Ottoman cavalry chichak helmet:
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Good job.
How many polygons in the model?
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: zagibu on January 27, 2011, 02:36:22 am
Looks like 1000 tris to me.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Mr.Lion on January 30, 2011, 01:53:28 pm
I assume the feathers do not move when you walk?
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: BattalGazi on January 31, 2011, 08:10:08 am
Any improvements on the armors? Any news? There's a world out there waiting for the arrival of these new gear :)
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Dede on February 03, 2011, 02:10:23 am
First I should mention that I have not completed other models.
Unfortunately I do not have much free time.
Before I can concentrate fully on this matter, I have to finish some client orders.
For this reason, any help would be appreciated. (in terms of modeling and texturing)

Good job.
How many polygons in the model?
Ty, the helmet has 768 faces.

I assume the feathers do not move when you walk?
Its static, as far as I know the M&B engine does not support it.

Some ingame screenshots: (For some parts I have to improve the bump map..)
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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: zagibu on February 03, 2011, 02:12:43 am
Very cool. I think it should be an elite helmet, though, costing a ton of money.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Christo on February 03, 2011, 02:15:15 am
Btw, chinese gears would be great.

Would be nice.
Also some Korean Hwarang/Soldier armour would be fantastic to have.

That helmet looks wonderful... O.O
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on February 03, 2011, 03:23:22 pm
Best Helm ever

The Gold on Helm looks more yellowish as Gold

Maybe u can switch the gold color like the Shoulder boards on the screen ?
Then its really Perfect.
The back from the helm and Spring look really Good
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Siiem on February 03, 2011, 03:25:37 pm
Not enough sand on that helmet. But teh gold is infact abit to shiny, it should be more mat. And abit darker.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Xant on February 03, 2011, 03:33:21 pm
There needs to be a helmet for Turks that is made out of sand.

Do this or I quit cRPG.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: BattalGazi on February 03, 2011, 03:55:59 pm
My salutations Dede_the_Perfect_Renderer :) I come across many people during the game willing to help you, I'll direct them to you if that's OK for you.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Abay_ on February 03, 2011, 08:05:52 pm
Not enough sand on that helmet. But teh gold is infact abit to shiny, it should be more mat. And abit darker.
Agreed
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on February 03, 2011, 09:48:25 pm
Yeah i was wonder how he good skinn that.
For hes 1 Example , respect.

What u now working on Dede?? Body armor?

Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on February 03, 2011, 10:00:37 pm
Agreed

ah are just jealous,because there is none modeler of them,produces a Scandinavian potato sack dress   :lol:
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Siiem on February 03, 2011, 11:49:22 pm
ah are just jealous,because there is none modeler of them,produces a Scandinavian potato sack dress   :lol:

A scandinavian potato sack dress, tis a noble garment, and only men and women of noble birth and value can use them. Because let's face it, at least you wont get sand in your buttcrack from a potato sack dress. :wink:
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Xant on February 03, 2011, 11:54:01 pm
Meh. Why add Turk armors? Or ok, let's add one. But since we're adding them, let's also add armors of the bad-ass scandinavians who had to guard the turk's asses.

win/win. Turks get their ceremonial shit while the bad-asses get the bad-ass armor that was made for fighting instead of looking like a chicken.

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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Siiem on February 03, 2011, 11:58:14 pm
Hear ye, hear ye. I support Xant Xant, 110%. Infact, I suggest that he, Xant Xant. As he is known in skype, Ts and other important lands. Henceforth, Shall be named "Sacred item database administration officer of the highest order for cRPG"
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on February 04, 2011, 12:51:46 am
Xant u have really problems with ya self i think.

So the Varangian Guard dont guard the Turks,the Guard the Emperor of (Byzantium Empire) this is the first1 Point where u talk shit ,because u know nothing aboute History.
I do not think the Turks would berabies  drooling Viking as Mercenaries.

To point 2,they are not ceremonial stuff.The wore only for Elite warriors.
since there are no decorations for the Scandinavians because there was no elite military rather elite lumberjacks.

Why u guys do that ?
Sniffing pure and offended other Cultures.
Where is the Admin to bann this guys.


Prefers the Russian Thread and annoys your Russian half brothers



Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Xant on February 04, 2011, 01:09:37 am
Byzantine Empire: 330-1453. M&B timeframe.

So let me get this straight. The forefathers of turks hired lumberjacks as their elite bodyguard? Gotcha, loud and clear.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Akincibegi on February 04, 2011, 01:17:48 am
Byzantine Empire: 330-1453. M&B timeframe.

So let me get this straight. The forefathers of turks hired lumberjacks as their elite bodyguard? Gotcha, loud and clear.
ru saying byzantions turks? lol xant go a library and  learn history and try to make scandinavian armours so u can  try to add them to mod
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Xant on February 04, 2011, 01:19:49 am
ru saying byzantions turks? lol xant go a library and  learn history and try to make scandinavian armours so u can  try to add them to mod

Unless the Turks brought some pretty big carts with 'em, the majority of the population of Turkey descend from the Byzantine Empire's people.

And Noc make some Varangian guard armor, plx.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: BattalGazi on February 04, 2011, 01:36:50 am
Actually its funny to watch people trying to benefit from Turk empires' successes. Yeah, thanks to varangian guards Turks have conquered half of europe :)
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Noctivagant on February 04, 2011, 02:27:38 am
If you don't like it "report to a moderator".

Make the armor, finish it, add to brf pack, present to dev team, simple.
If its accepted it means its appreciated.

Stupid "I humped your mama 3000 years ago on that field" discussion is quite pointless. They are trolling and you are falling for that, admit it and move on.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: BattalGazi on February 04, 2011, 02:34:32 am
Stupid "I humped your mama 3000 years ago on that field" discussion is quite pointless. They are trolling and you are falling for that, admit it and move on.

You're right, I was feeding the trolls. I couldn't help myself :( Let's move on to the real topic.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Dede on February 04, 2011, 02:35:05 am
Guys this whole discussion on this thread is unnecessary. Well if someone wants "Sandarmor", he can have it.
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What sand has to do with turkish Armors, of course, is another matter. :)
My countrymen should nevertheless be relaxed Siiem & Xant are obviously trolling. There is no need to be offended.



On my monitor(calibrated) the colors look ok for me, but I can of course desaturate it a bit.

@BattalGazi
My salutations Dede_the_Perfect_Renderer :) I come across many people during the game willing to help you, I'll direct them to you if that's OK for you.
Of course, any help would make the work faster.
I have seen some talented modelers in the TW Turkish Forum.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Noctivagant on February 04, 2011, 02:42:04 am
What sand has to do with turkish Armors, of course, is another matter. :)

He was trying to call all of you (and me) "Sand friend", funny that I was the first one using this term on Merc chat to define something completely different and I'm Turkish....karma
Sand armor would never get accepted due its great potential of invisibility on some maps. Btw Dede change your skin color when presenting armors and turn off HDR, your skin color makes armors glow plus the HDR glow its becomes something like neon armor.

Btw don't hesitate to report Siiem, Xand and Janis (trolling, trolling and raging)
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Akincibegi on February 04, 2011, 02:50:03 am
He was trying to call all of you (and me) "Sand friend", funny that I was the first one using this term on Merc chat to define something completely different and I'm Turkish....karma
Sand armor would never get accepted due its great potential of invisibility on some maps. Btw Dede change your skin color when presenting armors and turn off HDR, your skin color makes armors glow plus the HDR glow its becomes something like neon armor.

Btw don't hesitate to report Siiem, Xand and Janis (trolling, trolling and raging)

and me for raging against siiem and xant
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Dede on February 04, 2011, 03:16:24 am
Btw Dede change your skin color when presenting armors and turn off HDR, your skin color makes armors glow plus the HDR glow its becomes something like neon armor.
True, the HDR makes  it more glow as it should. The Screenshot is from a Sarranid town at noon when the sun was shining. Though I have still to change the Normalmap and the Materialsettings.

But what do you mean by "Skin Color"?  The "Spec RGB" of the Material?
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on February 04, 2011, 03:17:45 am
jealous troublemakers

maybe determined she suffered a traumatic in the school,a Turk stole her sandwich and beat him.

Back to Topic

Dede what u working for the next stuff?


small donation for dede work  :)
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Dede on February 04, 2011, 03:26:03 am
Right now I have to finnish a Website. Will probably go through the night.  :(
When I am done with it, I can start making other helmets. (like Janissary, Solak. etc.).

PS: No need for donations lol. I am doing it for fun, and will also play with some armors in the game when I have the time for it :)
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on February 04, 2011, 03:27:43 am
thats would be really great, whats with body armor ,u have any idea?

I found some pics from Medieval 2 Total war
chain mail with beautiful  vest

i found some gross pictures,maybe you'll see clue.
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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Dede on February 04, 2011, 03:44:51 am
I thought of this(most of them are heavy armors):
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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on February 04, 2011, 03:53:55 am
we got this armor dede, look Mamluke Mail
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: MountedRhader on February 04, 2011, 03:58:10 am
Mamluk is supposedly arab, turks aren't arab  :D



EDIT: after looking over the pics once more I decided I want the leopard skin hat, and the big white hat  :twisted:
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Dede on February 04, 2011, 04:57:16 am
@Janis

I know, but it looks like as if it is the lightest version of the "Krug Armor".

There are many variations of this kind armor.

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This is the heaviest and the ugliest that I found : )
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Persian or Mughal version:
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even the russians got inspired and made their own Krug Armor (Zertsalo)
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By the way Mamlukes had mostly turkic origins.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk .
However, during Mediaval Times faith was more important than the race. Later on The Mamluks become part of the Ottoman Empire.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Sultan_Khalifa on February 04, 2011, 05:34:16 am
Mamluk is supposedly arab, turks aren't arab  :D



EDIT: after looking over the pics once more I decided I want the leopard skin hat, and the big white hat  :twisted:

Mamluk are not arabs but you are missing the point

this nationlist bullcrap was not there at that time in history there wasnt

No Turk, Arab, Kurds, Tatars, Persian, Berbes And African

They were one people under one faith they did not give a shit about are they any of thouse what matterd was there faith.

and only Nationalism Broke up this great unitey

ohh and at that time in history they would use the same armor the only diffrence is wich units we are talking about.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: zagibu on February 04, 2011, 03:12:11 pm
The sand helmet is too cool :).
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Mustang_Sweets on February 04, 2011, 03:40:13 pm
I have two friends dabbling with couple Landsknecht-models, probably light and heavy ones, also Katzbalger-model(See the swords in the pic) is under construction. So if chadz & Co. are interested, you guys can have them as long as theres "Jolly" in the armor's name  :wink:
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e: Also voted of Turkish Janissary armor, if you guys can provide models for modders, that is. More stuff there is more fun this game is.

I DEMAND POOFIER PANTS AND SHIRTS!
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Mustang_Sweets on February 04, 2011, 03:42:11 pm
@Janis

I know, but it looks like as if it is the lightest version of the "Krug Armor".

There are many variations of this kind armor.

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This is the heaviest and the ugliest that I found : )
(click to show/hide)

Persian or Mughal version:
(click to show/hide)

even the russians got inspired and made their own Krug Armor (Zertsalo)
(click to show/hide)


By the way Mamlukes had mostly turkic origins.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk .
However, during Mediaval Times faith was more important than the race. Later on The Mamluks become part of the Ottoman Empire.

Looking at all these pics i'd say the mamluke armor is already one of your choices.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: BattalGazi on February 04, 2011, 03:49:29 pm
That is why our clan uses it as its heavy infantry armor. On the other hand, looking at Dede's helmet design, the possible armor he's gonna make will be much more beautiful than the current mamluke mail.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Mustang_Sweets on February 04, 2011, 04:05:54 pm
Im sure it'll look better then what there is now, even though what is there is pretty close to the real thing. Remember not too much detail and not too little have to find that fine line between take and too simple, unlike the strange armor sets, they all look too detailed to be pretty. Also I say make your cheap/light armor one look grungy  cause that adds flavour. Not that i doubt you havent done all this, but just making sure it stays in your head.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Delro on February 04, 2011, 04:16:08 pm
The sand helmet is too cool :).

I had thought he meant add more sand to the dirtmap, its too shiny... LoL not a helm made out of sand. I think some blemishes/sand texture in between the grooved parts of the helmet would be awesome though.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Mr.Lion on February 04, 2011, 05:13:29 pm
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Damn these look bad ass !
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on February 04, 2011, 08:17:53 pm
U dont read what i write or ? :|
This Textures are from a other Game

Its such gross
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Mr.Lion on February 04, 2011, 11:39:04 pm
U dont read what i write or ? :|
This Textures are from a other Game

Its such gross
I did read what you wrote , I know that these models are from another game and the textures are not good in that game ( since its pretty old) but it does not change the fact that it would  look totaly awesome if someone created the same models for warband. Maybe I was ahead of myself and was already thinking how they would look in warband.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: zagibu on February 05, 2011, 03:02:18 am
It's not because the game is too old, but because in this other game, you look at the battlefield from a much greater distance, since it's a strategy game. Also, they must display 5 times as many units as in M&B.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Noctivagant on February 05, 2011, 06:34:07 pm
U dont read what i write or ? :|
This Textures are from a other Game

Its such gross

badass=tassakli
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Noctivagant on February 14, 2011, 11:39:37 am
Screenshots of "With Fire & Sword (http://worthplaying.com/article/2011/2/1/news/79600/)

“This is a fantastic addition to the Mount & Blade franchise,” says Armagan Yavuz, Lead Developer & Founder of Taleworlds Entertainment.  “The features included in With Fire and Sword fulfill many of our fans' requests”

Click for the trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDRAUAyxDiE)
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Sultan Eren on February 14, 2011, 07:05:24 pm
Screenshots of "With Fire & Sword (http://worthplaying.com/article/2011/2/1/news/79600/)

“This is a fantastic addition to the Mount & Blade franchise,” says Armagan Yavuz, Lead Developer & Founder of Taleworlds Entertainment.  “The features included in With Fire and Sword fulfill many of our fans' requests”

Click for the trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDRAUAyxDiE)

Fuck Fire&Sword I'm sorry but I don't like firearms.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: BattalGazi on February 15, 2011, 02:42:52 pm
Fuck Fire&Sword I'm sorry but I don't like firearms.

Feel free to do it :) but those weapon texture files could be used if required ...
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: HarunYahya on February 15, 2011, 03:43:51 pm
We definetly need our own armour.
We use arabian and hun armours for now.Both culture were involved in Ottoman Empire , however we definetly need Janissary and Sipahi armors and weapons.Janissaries and Sipahis were the great part of Ottoman Army.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Sultan Eren on February 15, 2011, 04:27:15 pm
We definetly need our own armour.
We use arabian and hun armours for now.Both culture were involved in Ottoman Empire , however we definetly need Janissary and Sipahi armors and weapons.Janissaries and Sipahis were the great part of Ottoman Army.

Great part of late-ish Ottoman Army.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Noctivagant on February 15, 2011, 06:17:59 pm
Fuck Fire&Sword I'm sorry but I don't like firearms.
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Every heard of importing models from other brf packs?
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: BattalGazi on February 15, 2011, 08:19:38 pm
Btw, will importing whose files create any copyright issues? Both games ( Warband & Fire-Sword ) belong to same company, but I have a feeling that directly importing files from Fire&Sword version into a Warband mod, and letting people-who might not have a copy of Fire&Sword-use those might conflict with copyright stuff. I don't know, maybe I'm just dreaming ...
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Sultan Eren on February 16, 2011, 12:17:12 am
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Every heard of importing models from other brf packs?

C'mon It's not a 17/18th century game!!! Keep it medieval!!!
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Noctivagant on February 18, 2011, 12:41:36 pm
C'mon It's not a 17/18th century game!!! Keep it medieval!!!

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then don't import the firearms done, whats so hard to understand about it?
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Janis_Corp on March 02, 2011, 11:47:01 am
Dede u still alive?
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Mr.Lion on April 07, 2011, 09:07:25 am
Yes he still is alive.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Paul on April 07, 2011, 10:27:50 am
If the models are good and roughly fit the cRPG timeline, we'll add them. LoDs are needed too.
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Safavid on April 07, 2011, 11:03:39 am
I would love to see good Turkish armor! :)
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: TheGriffin88 on April 14, 2011, 01:28:12 am
Did someone say camel model? lol
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Kai_123 on April 18, 2011, 01:29:03 pm
Did someone say camel model? lol

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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: HarunYahya on May 11, 2011, 08:03:17 am
Bumped the thread !
I want Ottoman armour  !!!!
Got bored of kimono wanna be arabian robes :(
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on May 25, 2011, 02:39:02 pm
I would like those goat mounts from Full Invasion
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Muunilinst on May 25, 2011, 02:58:00 pm
Only if we get Crusader Stuff to counter the Turk Stuff  :twisted:
+1
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Wildling on May 25, 2011, 04:09:36 pm
+1

this lol :P
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Marshal_Nemesis on May 25, 2011, 05:37:25 pm
It is time for Turkish arsenal.. :D
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: MountedRhader on June 16, 2011, 09:23:32 am
I think a camel would be really cool :D


WAR CAMELS INBOUND
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: Tree_Turtle on December 04, 2012, 06:51:03 pm
that looks like the heavy yaw shan
Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on December 04, 2012, 06:59:15 pm
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Title: Re: Special Turk Armors,Can We add some Janissary armors to cRPG?
Post by: the real god emperor on December 04, 2012, 07:25:48 pm
Heavy Yawshan is not enough! Argghh!!

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