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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Duke on June 03, 2011, 03:27:12 pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeating_crossbow
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My Suggestion (approx. values)
At least three different types/models
Cost: 20k-35k
3-bolt clips
(because currently 12-count steel and 15-count regular are both divisible by 3)
Damage
30-50 cut damage (not pierce)
(keep in mind there is no PD or PT to boost this)
Speed rating (reload)
10-18
Missile speed
40-50
Accuracy
85-90
Weight
4.0-5.0
Slot requirements:
2 slots for the weakest, 3 slots for the strongest. Middle: ???
OR
1 slot: weakest repeater
2 slot: middle repeater
3 slot: strongest repeater
Difficulty requirement(s):
???
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yes yes! yeeeessssss!
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yes yes! yeeeessssss!
NO NEVER EVER
(Screw you Arked :P )
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I agree, a repeating crossbow (aka. Chu ko nu) sounds fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo13R_fSvnI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo13R_fSvnI&feature=related) <- shows how they looked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SodhzoAE6XE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SodhzoAE6XE&feature=related) <- shows that they are fairly deadly at short ranges
Since the current balancing factor for crossbows in game is their slow reload speed, perhaps to balance out the relatively fast reload (1 second reload with a longer reload when changing bolt magazines) of a Chu ko nu it should have horrible accuracy at medium-long range AND have a pretty high strength requirement (20 or more even) both to stop any old peasant picking one up and going rambo and also to represent the difficulty of reloading every few seconds. A kind of 'anti' crossbow which instead of the high damage, high accuracy, slow speed of other crossbows can have medium damage, poor accuracy, fast speed.
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1) it looks to be extremely weak. Such a winding mechanism does not support high loading of the bow.
2) more flying ammo? Don't we have enough?
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Can we also have this plz chadz plz...
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Sounds like the ultimate peasent shooter :lol:
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It'll be Counter-Strike: Plate.
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Sounds like the ultimate peasent shooter :lol:
That's exactly my thought, too, lol.
While an addition to the Xbow family sounds nice, maybe a 1 handed miniature crossbow, as well? Shorter range, lesser damage, but enables shield and uses the firearms animation.
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If you give it the super annoying delay that the arbalest has so that you can't literally machine gun 2h to death, then I support this. Also, it has to take 2 slots if not 3 in order to keep it out of the hands of those no/low wpp shotgunners. Mmm air would kick ass with this thing :mrgreen:
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If you give it the super annoying delay that the arbalest has so that you can't literally machine gun 2h to death, then I support this. Also, it has to take 2 slots if not 3 in order to keep it out of the hands of those no/low wpp shotgunners. Mmm air would kick ass with this thing :mrgreen:
Air would carry three of them and one stack of bolts :mrgreen:
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If you give it the super annoying delay that the arbalest has so that you can't literally machine gun 2h to death, then I support this. Also, it has to take 2 slots if not 3 in order to keep it out of the hands of those no/low wpp shotgunners. Mmm air would kick ass with this thing :mrgreen:
Well, I already suggested the Speed rating (reload) be 10-18, with 18 being the Arbalest's speed. I figure the weakest repeater has 18 speed, the strongest has 10.
I did, however, forget to suggest Slot requirements. Maybe make the strongest repeater take 3 slots, but I seriously recommend at least one be only 2 slots. I'll go back and edit my post.
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please no, please please no.
this will increase the ranged spam by 300%
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please no, please please no.
this will increase the ranged spam by 300%
Well, in the strict mathematical sense, it would only be +200% :P ( 3 bolts vs 1 bolt loaded )
I also think you're overestimating the strength of a cut projectile without a PD or PT to boost its damage, not to mention the low accuracy recommended)
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Imagine in strat......5 Chinese Xbows......in a line.....EPIC
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who cares about low accuracy, when you could take 2 of these and a stack of bolts,
6 rapid fire shots.
Or even if they are 2 slot, you're still gunna have a massive increase in the amount of people who take xbows.
chadz himself has always aimed not to make crpg a ranged spam fest, this will completely destroy that aim.
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chadz himself has always aimed not to make crpg a ranged spam fest, this will completely destroy that aim.
I'm aware of his tendencies against ranged, but as it is now there is little distinction still between dedicated xbowers and an infantry who lugs one around as a sidearm. With the Slot system in place, and we make the repeaters at least 2 slots.. 2-handed or Polearm users really couldn't take it as a sidearm, as most 2H/PO are 2 slots themselves (this would leave no slots for ammo)
I think the general idea is worth considering, albeit the details would need hammering out.
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The low accuracy of the weapon wil make the crossbow
like an automatic shotgun.
And if more than one automatic crossbow :shock: SPAM FIRE
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Missle speed:
The hunting crossbow has: 43 missle speed.
A repeating xbow should then have around 30-35 missle speed. This should mean anything past short range would require the user to add a huge arc.
Damage:
Hunting xbow: 37p
As this thing will be firing faster then a bow, give it 25c (or p) dmg
And if the normal xbow is only 1 slot, this should be 1 slot as well.
P.S historical note: Early Chinese armies had shit loads of ranged. As in SHITLOADS
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Bad idea.
It will change the gamplay in the false direction.
Lol for the mega rifle...
...Please chadz add it.
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yes yes! yeeeessssss!
no.
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I say this seems good. Then we might actually have real crossbowmen. I see VERY few dedicated crossbowmen now.
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I agree, a repeating crossbow (aka. Chu ko nu) sounds fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo13R_fSvnI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo13R_fSvnI&feature=related) <- shows how they looked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SodhzoAE6XE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SodhzoAE6XE&feature=related) <- shows that they are fairly deadly at short ranges
How does that second video even relate to the topic? That is not a replica ancient repeating xbow. In reality they were shitty thus never gained popularity. Wtf is this crap?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo13R_fSvnI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo13R_fSvnI&feature=related) <- shows how they looked
you fail :p
read the description thats his own design
and joxer you fail too for pretending like you know any history once again.
anyway cho kun nu would be awesome but might be lame gameplay wise
plus all the effect into modelling/coding I'd rather they made constructible balista, so we could have a true engineer class who is useful in battle ;D
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The low accuracy of the weapon wil make the crossbow
like an automatic shotgun.
And if more than one automatic crossbow :shock: SPAM FIRE
If you've ever used an arbalest/sniper xbow/siege xbow (in earlier patches) you would've noticed that there is always a couple of seconds between when you begin to aim an arbalest and when the arbalest can actually fire, forcing you to stand there aiming your xbow for a few seconds each time you want to fire. Add this to a repeater and it becomes a little harder to machine gun everything, especially with infantry bearing down on your vulnerable xbow aiming ass
Damage levels would have to be tested since 25c damage wouldn't even make a kuyak flinch, and even archers are wearing kuyaks these days sometimes
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If you've ever used an arbalest/sniper xbow/siege xbow (in earlier patches) you would've noticed that there is always a couple of seconds between when you begin to aim an arbalest and when the arbalest can actually fire, forcing you to stand there aiming your xbow for a few seconds each time you want to fire. Add this to a repeater and it becomes a little harder to machine gun everything, especially with infantry bearing down on your vulnerable xbow aiming ass
Damage levels would have to be tested since 25c damage wouldn't even make a kuyak flinch, and even archers are wearing kuyaks these days sometimes
I guess you don't know DarkKarma.
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Let's not move into more OP crossbows and guns pleex.
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To replace the current xbow? Maybe. As an addition? No.
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And what about a medieval P90 ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSjCY2kGyfI&feature=related
Please create items to fix the ranged spam of laser-guided arrows, no to make it worse.
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Please create items to fix the ranged spam of laser-guided arrows, no to make it worse.
Bolts <> arrows :!:
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You know those weapon were so weak that they had to be fired downwards from a height to achieve a fatal strike?
:rolleyes:
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maybe a glance on all plate armors and armors above the 15k price. even without any IF
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I guess you don't know DarkKarma.
Darkkarma uses a MW arbalest and still has to deal with the delay. His xbow is obviously a little bit faster than normal and all experienced xbowers know that if you want to bring an arbalest into the fray you have to start aiming your xbow arbalest anytime you may want to fire your xbow, so when you do get the chance to shoot you have already prepped and primed your rifle.
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I like the idea, but I am just scared of projectile spam. Fire and Sword made me never want to see a projectile in my life ever again.
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You know those weapon were so weak that they had to be fired downwards from a height to achieve a fatal strike?
:rolleyes:
This. Ive never seen one in person but this is what I have read elsewhere.
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