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Title: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Jona on May 28, 2018, 10:53:48 pm
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Case 1: The Latene
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Case 2: The Yari
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Case 3: The Tiger Fork
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Tl;dr: New weapons/items should be added in an attempt to breathe new life into this mod, and seeing how these were the first new polearms in a while*, I was looking forward to their arrival. Unfortunately, their arrival kinda fell flat due to lackluster stats and in-game appearance. There is no real reason to use the latene atm due to being quite severely underpowered, nor the yari, due it to being a butt-ugly eyesore :wink:. The Tiger fork is the only "usable" new weapon added and to be fair the entire fork family of polearms has always been a bit of a niche anyways. On a side note, the prices of all of these may want to be adjusted a bit. For instance the yari would actually be a pretty good pick for a strat weapon, especially earlier in the round. As it stands it is nearly as cheap as the bamboo spear, but a good deal better. Looking at the model I would have assumed it'd be among the more expensive polearms, closer in price perhaps to the naginata. The latene looks a bit too fancy to be priced among the cheaper polearms, especially considering the flambard/flamberge are among the most expensive 2hs (and if it costs more then the proposed buffs shouldn't be as big of an issue). At the very least there is no reason why the yari is cheaper than the tiger fork.

*Other than the native american weapons REEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on May 28, 2018, 11:49:08 pm
Hey i made the stats for the tiger fork! As for the yari, i wasnt aware of it ever even being considered as 4d, i was pretty surprised when it was 2d lol
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: kasMVC on May 29, 2018, 12:27:47 am
yea you may have made the stats but they ugly as fuck no offense u ugly as fuck 2
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Rando on May 29, 2018, 01:12:08 am
CASE 4: REMOVE THEM BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS MORE SHITTY NEW ITEMS WHILE SOME ITEMS IN THE GAME STILL HAVE NO MODELS SEE: HUSSAR HELMET
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Yeldur on May 29, 2018, 01:13:59 am
Hey i made the stats for the tiger fork! As for the yari, i wasnt aware of it ever even being considered as 4d, i was pretty surprised when it was 2d lol
Lord god please don't make the Yari 4 directional that shit is retarded as fuck, just, no.
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Nightingale on May 29, 2018, 05:03:18 am
I only supported adding the Latene. but yeah these could use some work. I work too much so someone else can be harrassed to do this.
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on May 29, 2018, 08:30:41 pm
All 3 model renders look nice, has anyone else had issues with in-game rendering?
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Asheram on May 29, 2018, 10:07:47 pm
While you are working on these can you bring back the old model for the red tassel spear?
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on May 29, 2018, 10:13:51 pm
While you are working on these can you bring back the old model for the red tassel spear?
and the old models for the great maul and long maul pls
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Jona on May 29, 2018, 10:38:10 pm
and the old models for the great maul and long maul pls

At l east for the long maul, it'd be great to bring back the old model and make it a different wep tbh. Poles need a low-req crusthrough wep similar to the mallet or maul that 2hs have. Always been a niche that has yet to be filled in the polearm arsenal... the polehammer was destined to be the chosen one but alas it was turned into a shitty bec wannabe.
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Rando on May 30, 2018, 05:04:25 pm
the hussar helmet has no model
the hussar helmet has no model
the hussar helmet has no model
the hussar helmet has no model
the hussar helmet has no model
the hussar helmet has no model
the hussar helmet has no model
the hussar helmet has no model
the hussar helmet has no model
the hussar helmet has no model
the hussar helmet has no model
the hussar helmet has no model
the hussar helmet has no model
the hussar helmet has no model
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on May 30, 2018, 05:13:42 pm
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this has literally nothing to do with item balance retard
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Nehvar on May 30, 2018, 05:26:47 pm
All 3 model renders look nice, has anyone else had issues with in-game rendering?

Yeah...kinda.  The shared material for these new weapons lists bump/specular maps that are wrong.  That's probably where the complaints on appearance are coming from.

the hussar helmet has no model

Someone forgot to add the brf for the hussar helmets to the module.ini in the patcher input.  Either that or the patcher itself is buggy.  This can be fixed at the player-side by adding the line
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load_mod_resource = zimke_helmets to your module.ini.
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Jona on May 30, 2018, 05:28:31 pm
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Get this man an item adviser job already. He's been doing it for years anyways.
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on May 30, 2018, 10:41:42 pm
Get this man an item adviser job already. He's been doing it for years anyways.

I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that Nehvar has dev access? It might be Plarbis I'm thinking of
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: njames89 on May 30, 2018, 10:50:44 pm
Yes that is Plarbis you are thinking of.

Thanks for the heads up Nehvar. I'll pass along the message to prof.
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Rando on May 31, 2018, 02:48:24 pm
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this has literally nothing to do with item balance retard

imagine being this much of a brainlet. an item being an invisible arrow under you instead of a helmet has nothing to do with its balance? roflmao
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: njames89 on May 31, 2018, 03:12:54 pm
The hussar/capeline helms should be fixed next patch thanks to Nehvar pointing out the problem. Prof is aware of it and said he will patch the fix in soon.
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Kadeth on June 01, 2018, 01:46:08 am
imagine being this much of a brainlet. an item being an invisible arrow under you instead of a helmet has nothing to do with its balance? roflmao

i'm tired of these lover's quarrels
Title: Re: Rebalancing of New Polearms
Post by: Rando on June 01, 2018, 04:57:11 pm
i'm tired of these lover's quarrels
it's just sad to see a friend say something brainlet-tier