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Title: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Panos_Tournament on April 04, 2018, 12:35:39 pm
Vote on the poll please.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Panos_Tournament on April 04, 2018, 12:39:02 pm
I think its time for a total wipe.

Eu1 has been empty the last days and eu7 is slowing dying aswell.

Just wipe it all, including strategus, we have nothing to lose since all the servers are empty.

Do it.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: njames89 on April 04, 2018, 12:43:23 pm
Wipe just EU I guess NA has been pretty decent recently.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Nickleback on April 04, 2018, 12:53:33 pm
wipe panos's brain and rehabilitate
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Heibai on April 04, 2018, 01:02:31 pm
"Wipe strat only" option is missing.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: IR_Kuoin on April 04, 2018, 01:09:04 pm
I hardly think a wipe is gonna bring people back, more the opposite.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 04, 2018, 01:46:37 pm
NA1 has been gaining population the last few days, especially strat.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Dalhi on April 04, 2018, 02:03:43 pm
Thing is a bit different for NA and that is the blocker, EU battle died almost two months ago when there were issues with autobalancer and never recovered.
Personally i don't mind wiping the game in fact I advocate for this for some time already. Strategus reset didn't really bring any players as they left before it happened, at this point crpg on EU side is dead for over a month. Battle hardly gets more than 10 players. I played like two days ago wiht 7 or 8 guys and no one joined, the day before we had 5 vs 5 siege, for like an hour no one new appeared on the server and we just left.
Even DTV is getting less and less players with every day.
I would say wipe, it can't be worst than that, fuck the looms and levels when you can't even make a proper use of them.
Raise the starting level to 30, forget about the "grind" part from peasant to something usefull, if someone wants it, he will retire and get the low lvl grind. 

On a side note, would be nice to have some kind of happy hours, it does wonders on Mercenaries module, 100 on siege and around 50-60 players online. DTV needs a reward adjustment, some time ago someone suggested to disable upkeep and gold gain there it's not a bad idea, reward for winning a map is crazy high needs lowering.
There are some that log in just to play dtv and it's fine, people enjoy the game in a verry different way, and that is the strength of it.
For battle I'd advise to get small maps like the one from there :http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,253855.0.html (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,253855.0.html) and decrease the round times, it does wonders on Native, round are pretty damn intense and swift, no time for fooling around.

Things that I listed are not a really hard task for someone talented like Professor. You may keep th NA database, but if possible EU needs a reset.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: the real god emperor on April 04, 2018, 02:08:06 pm
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Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 04, 2018, 02:16:30 pm
I would say wipe, it can't be worst than that, fuck the looms and levels when you can't even make a proper use of them.
Raise the starting level to 30, forget about the "grind" part from peasant to something usefull, if someone wants it, he will retire and get the low lvl grind. 
If you get rid of the grind, what is the point of wiping? Then its just the same because people who actually play will get the money, gold, and looms back faster than casual players anyways

On a side note, would be nice to have some kind of happy hours, it does wonders on Mercenaries module, 100 on siege and around 50-60 players online. DTV needs a reward adjustment, some time ago someone suggested to disable upkeep and gold gain there it's not a bad idea, reward for winning a map is crazy high needs lowering.

there is happy hour, i forget the actual hours of it but its perma x2 from like 4pm-7pm on na1
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Dalhi on April 04, 2018, 02:37:26 pm
If you get rid of the grind, what is the point of wiping? Then its just the same because people who actually play will get the money, gold, and looms back faster than casual players anyways

It's just a better starting point for a new character, you still need to lvl it up. Some old farts that are still around but never actually get into crpg might check it, and it's a new innitiative to play for cprg veterans. EU has a lot players online daily, check the website in 4-5 hours http://www.mnbcentral.net/ (http://www.mnbcentral.net/)
Of course those that activily play will get looms and lvls back back much faster nothing revealing. Also as I said, things are different on NA, so I am not going to argue about that with you.

there is happy hour, i forget the actual hours of it but its perma x2 from like 4pm-7pm on na1

Yeah, it might be that is constant x2 for some time, hard to tell server is empty. But I was thinking about an hour or two when you get all the rewards x2, excluding dtv  :lol:, you know daily crpg time.

PS That still requires a confirmation if having separate detabase for NA and EU is possible, marketplace is also an issue  :?
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Gnjus on April 04, 2018, 03:42:50 pm
I've seen a lot of dumb & useless Poles but Dalhi is the smartest of the lot. Praise !
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Sniger on April 04, 2018, 04:42:53 pm
im also pro wipe but just chars and gold. the very high average level makes it difficult if not impossible to balance accordingly. this creates sort of mess in the various classes, stuff is "rebalanced", stuff that wouldnt feel unbalanced if characters were lower level. the high char-level makes it almost impossible to tell if some weapon or armor is unbalanced.

i dont think looms is that big of an impact. we played this mod (too much) alot, let us keep something.

edit: if keeping looms, gear that was loomed could have increased upkeep
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 04, 2018, 05:31:02 pm
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I'd say it died earlier than the autobalance issues, when it first got brought back online from Professors efforts it did really well. Crossbow masses and just lack of interest in the game made for the gradual dropoff. Autobalance and poor mapcycle was a bit of a nail in the coffin, but it was only like 1 day of actual autobalance issues, almost like people just want excuses to drop out.

We tried a kind of happy hour, but people didnt show up, and like me many quit very quickly.


Maybe a wipe will spark some interest for me to play again, but tbh if i want to play warband for the gameplay now i'll pretty much rather play native or maybe merc mod. Its more for the nostalgia and for the people playing that i went back for a while some months ago, but thats about it.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Leshma on April 04, 2018, 06:18:23 pm
I'm strongly against database wipe because I worked hard for those loompoints and loomed items, now to be taken from me by some squeaky voiced developer. My property is mine, don't you dare to take it away from me.

...waiting on the front porch with double barreled shotgun in my arms


Of course it is fucking Greek who wants to steal my hard earned stuff.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Drunken_sailor on April 04, 2018, 07:07:39 pm
Wipe everything but my stuff so I can Lord it up over the peons
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on April 04, 2018, 08:35:53 pm
revert to 2010/11 era XP system where you only get xp from nearby deaths. Bring back xp barn, bring back a horde of peasants hiding behind 1 plate wearing turbonerd.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Leesin on April 04, 2018, 09:57:09 pm
Shut the servers down and bury it, like a dog does to his shit.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Izatopia on April 04, 2018, 10:07:14 pm
i rarely post shit

but panos shut the fuck up

i like ur fucked up persononality

but still please dont put out such an idea a zombie like population of crpg wich is almost dead will die if this happens

just my thought dont take my peasant ideas too seriously

i love u panos...
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Trace_Legacy on April 04, 2018, 11:19:19 pm
As if thats gonna help.  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: SG_Anani on April 04, 2018, 11:35:43 pm
It is time for a wipe. Simple logic:


Being able to actually PLAY they game in its fullest after starting from scratch.

 or,

Not having fun and playing the game with 5-10 other greedy tryhards who are too afraid to risk their gear in an attempt to actually bring back the old times (Although I am sure these people will be synthetically happy about this outcome in the end, which would make this a pathetic mod with pathetic players)



I say better to actuall PLAY the mod with a pitchfork rather than wait for 'active hours' hoping for 10+ players with your full masterwork set of shiny knight armour.


The economy is fucked up and it is time for a reset. I can't believe a mod like Mercenaries is more alive than this. THERE IS NO UNDERSTANDABLE REASON FOR ME AS TO WHY SOMEONE WOULD CHOOSE TO PLAY MERC OVER CRPG. But that's just my opinion I guess. Anyways back to topic
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Leshma on April 04, 2018, 11:57:17 pm
revert to 2010/11 era XP system where you only get xp from nearby deaths. Bring back xp barn, bring back a horde of peasants hiding behind 1 plate wearing turbonerd.

Do not forget generation boost every two weeks. I want to see Kesh leeching on EU1 once again.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Algarn on April 05, 2018, 12:02:24 am
Wipe database, reduce the grind, advertise the mod.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Tibes on April 05, 2018, 12:21:31 am
Doubt that will do any good. We are pretty much done here. Warband will not get that much of an increase in the playerbase and just because of that neither will Crpg. People who didnt play crpg years ago will most likely not start now, unless a very gigantic change will happen in the general gameplay. And personally I feel kinda tired of it aswell. Its overplayed and a lot of competitive online games have started popping up over the years, that have shrinked our community here even more.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 05, 2018, 01:08:28 am
Where are these hordes of players desperately waiting for a wipe? I have literally never heard anyone who quit say that that would bring them back
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: ArysOakheart on April 05, 2018, 01:09:42 am
Yea please dont get rid of my hard earned peasant looms
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Trace_Legacy on April 05, 2018, 01:45:43 am
The economy is fucked up and it is time for a reset. I can't believe a mod like Mercenaries is more alive than this. THERE IS NO UNDERSTANDABLE REASON FOR ME AS TO WHY SOMEONE WOULD CHOOSE TO PLAY MERC OVER CRPG. But that's just my opinion I guess. Anyways back to topic
-In Mercenaries, there is no unfair leveling system and everyone is on equal footing!
Thats written on the main page of the Mercenaries site.

-Everyone is equal there and only skill matters.

-Gear is only there for your playstyle.

-You could go with a peasant armed with a pitchfork and still be able to 1v3 knights in full armour.

-No annoying upkeep.

-You can sell/buy gold in mercs for irl currency or other games.

-Happy Hour which makes people come online just for that double gold for 1 hour. (after that the playerbase falls off from 200 to 90-120)

-Every piece of equipment has been looked at by the developer (also the only developer) Homer. and made sure if its of high texture quality. There are some items in Crpg of HORRIBLE texture quality which
is just ugly.  In mercs every weapon and armor is nicely textured. (except the longbow)
Not only weapons and armor but Banners too Only 3-4 colors are allowed to be put on a banner and it needs to have a default dirt texture over it. But in Crpg...There are so many stupid looking banners in Crpg it just completely ridiculous how those banners are even allowed.
(My little pony banner, Dancing banana meme, Doge meme...seriously?)

-Matchmaking is balanced. There will always be an equal number of classes on every team. 5 cavs on red and 5 cavs on green. same goes for Horse archers and regular archers.

-The website feels... nice to look at and navigate through. Crpg website on the other hand feels very clunky and as if it has been made by a mediocre webpage designer. (This is just criticism i do not want to insult anyone here) Also do not forget that some items aren't even shown in the shop. Meaning you have to buy them first, so that you can take a look a them.

-Mercenaries is focusing only on one era. And thats the medieval times in Europe and middle east mostly before and in the era renaissance 10th to 14-15th century armor and weapons. While Crpg is just a complete mess. In one way its a good thing that Crpg has so many items which allows for some rp people to make historic or fantasy characters. But on the other hand its just stupid to see a medieval knight from the 12th century fight a...aztec warrior running around with a Macuahuitl. A Macuahuitl seriously? I won't deny that Mercenaries also has an item not belonging to Europe but that item is intentionally named ''Strange Sword'' (Katana) because it doesn't belong in Europe and people living in that time would be wierded out by that type of weapon.

-Looms are a completely stupid idea. Makes your op character have EVEN MORE op weapons than the beginners who started playing. Its just boring for the beginners to wait and get enough experience to level up and at least have a chance of killing a max lvl tincan with op stats and weapons. Why don't you just make them restricted on only some weapons. And make the looms only change the weapon by looks and not stats. And if you think that's a stupid idea then just think about CS:GO. In CS:GO cosmetic items like skins don't do anything to help your performance but make you feel good. People will farm looms so that their weapons and armor look more nice, so that they feel better. Its just human psychology...I think.
I mean it works in Mercenaries. There are rare items that are of ridiculously high price, like the Noble Plate (140k) 53 Body armor vs Plate Armor (25,5k) 53 Body armor. And people still buy the more expensive one!...Why? Because it makes them think that they are some sort of rich and highly looked-upon person. (which they kinda are at least to some new players). I don't wanna sound like a smartass but its all about that self-pride and self-loving when it comes to these sort of things.

What Crpg needs is strict quality control. Remove low textured and retarded looking weapons and armor...especially those damn Aztec weapons...God. (honestly what were you thinking?)
Remove the leveling up system. Make everyone the same level, for example level 40 ( i don't know which level is considered to be average here)
Make stricter rules for banner making. It always throws me off seeing a god damn MY LITTLE PONY banner in the middle of the battlefield.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on April 05, 2018, 02:31:49 am
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Tldr;

Nothing you suggest solves cRPG's population problem in fact your suggestions just result in cRPG becoming exactly like mercs...

Warband is old and is very unlikely to get an influx of new players any time soon, yer all grasping at straws.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Drunken_sailor on April 05, 2018, 03:11:04 am
two posts too long to read
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on April 05, 2018, 03:19:20 am
two posts too long to read

Added a tldr for yer convenience.  :wink:
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Asheram on April 05, 2018, 03:38:08 am
It's just a better starting point for a new character, you still need to lvl it up.
If it is a better starting point for new players you want you dont need a wipe, just give new players 1 character that is at level 31 with the 16 gen xp bonus and then they can just go to higher levels from there (which might I add is alot easier grind now). New player gets easier "high level" character old player keeps theirs.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Rando on April 05, 2018, 04:27:25 am
I'm not personally against it, being a man with a gen 23 level 34 (nearing 35) and a gen 5 with some ~25 +3s -- however, it's a huge gamble no matter how you look at it. A cheeky maneuver would be to save a backup in case it doesn't actually save the mod.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 05, 2018, 05:40:18 am
Doubt that will do any good. We are pretty much done here. Warband will not get that much of an increase in the playerbase and just because of that neither will Crpg. People who didnt play crpg years ago will most likely not start now, unless a very gigantic change will happen in the general gameplay. And personally I feel kinda tired of it aswell. Its overplayed and a lot of competitive online games have started popping up over the years, that have shrinked our community here even more.

Pretty much this.


But it would add back one thing that used to appeal to me, i used to look at crpg as 2 core ideas that really spoke to me which was slow rewarding progression and crisp gameplay. Now theres neither, a wipe would at least add back the progression. Not that it plays in favor of anything.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 05, 2018, 08:21:32 am
how to identify a bad player: "Looms are OP! The only reason you defeated me was because of it! What do you mean there are dozens of players without looms that easily top scoreboards! T-they dont count!"
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Panos_Tournament on April 05, 2018, 08:54:49 am



I dont want to play Mercs mod, because most of the players are total trash.

The only reason I sticked to c-rpg was how hard it was/is due to the fact that always someone will be better than you.

I am a great motherfucking lancer, with almost a kd of 4to1, I head on charge cunts with spears and I own them, very few people can kill me while I ride my courser, yet some days ago Oberyn joined EU1 and he kept owning me like I was nothing.

Was I mad? Sure, a bit, but I enjoyed it because THATS WHAT C-RPG IS FOR ME.

If i wanted to play with bad players, Id just join Native.

Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Gurnisson on April 05, 2018, 09:19:29 am
When I tried Mercenaries it was absolute trash (both the module and the players). Maybe it has changed now, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Kadeth on April 05, 2018, 10:10:06 am
how to identify a bad player: "Looms are OP! The only reason you defeated me was because of it! What do you mean there are dozens of players without looms that easily top scoreboards! T-they dont count!"

how to identify a bad player:  Cast Your Eyes Upon Any Reflective Object







but yea, like i've been saying for years; if the servers are truly dead, backup database, wipe everything and see what happens. If a significant number of players return, fucking awesome. If not, restore to pre-wipe database. These retard threads aren't going away. Do a trial wipe or we keep having this autistic discussion until bonerlord release
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Imperious on April 05, 2018, 10:50:14 am
if wipe comes just add the heirloom pack someone made. It will be glourious because there will be no loom and ppl who had that will look great so it will push ppl to play. BOOM cRPG alive again.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 05, 2018, 11:28:28 am
first the deve took our monies , now they want to take our looms.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Kadeth on April 05, 2018, 11:46:04 am
first the deve took our monies , now they want to take our looms.

the player ran
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Gurnisson on April 05, 2018, 12:19:09 pm
but yea, like i've been saying for years; if the servers are truly dead, backup database, wipe everything and see what happens. If a significant number of players return, fucking awesome. If not, restore to pre-wipe database. These retard threads aren't going away. Do a trial wipe or we keep having this autistic discussion until bonerlord release

Probably the best idea. Resets and new leagues works well to repopulate games like Diablo II and Path of Exile, as a new economy and starting on equal footing feels better than lagging behind in a stale enviroment. Those resets are often associated with updates to the game though.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Trace_Legacy on April 05, 2018, 12:32:16 pm
how to identify a bad player: "Looms are OP! The only reason you defeated me was because of it! What do you mean there are dozens of players without looms that easily top scoreboards! T-they dont count!"
So you're denying the fact that a player with loomed weapons and armor has advantage over players with no looms?
This mod is doomed. Wait for Bannerlord.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 05, 2018, 12:51:01 pm
So you're denying the fact that a player with loomed weapons and armor has advantage over players with no looms?
This mod is doomed. Wait for Bannerlord.

>actually thinking 1-3points of armor or 1-3 more points of damage matters

If I'm better than someone, I can beat them with any equipment.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: ARN_ on April 05, 2018, 01:23:49 pm
I have been against a wipe for the longest time. But right now we really have nothing to lose. I say do it!
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Oberyn on April 05, 2018, 01:47:12 pm
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Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Sniger on April 05, 2018, 01:52:56 pm
highly doubt that a wipe would bring more ppl to the mod. but it would certainly make it easier to balance things.

i know for fact that many ppl want a better balance
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: the real god emperor on April 05, 2018, 02:27:26 pm
Well we tried the no wipe way and it certainly did not work. A wipe without fixing strat won't work as well. Many people who played cRPG made clear that they played only for Strat. And without any grind public servers will die without people kcikstarting it. A wipe should come, but there should be a level 33 or smth character given to player as a start, so people who don't have that much time to play and or doesn't wanna play can still enjoy the game with just a few drawbacks like gen bonus or more looms. That would be a good balance of both, imo.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Bronto on April 05, 2018, 02:53:51 pm
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Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
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Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Jaytjuh on April 05, 2018, 03:19:27 pm
giving a level 33 is just a bit ridiculous, you wanna make it like world of warcraft where you get a free level 100 without doing the content before that?

get the grind on from level 1, make ladders of people that are the highest level / gen and make it seem like a competition.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Casimir on April 05, 2018, 03:21:01 pm
i certainly wouldn't play if i had to restart with nothing, i enjoy coming back now and again and being able to pick up my old character.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Jaytjuh on April 05, 2018, 03:21:45 pm
i certainly wouldn't play if i had to restart with nothing, i enjoy coming back now and again and being able to pick up my old character.

nothing to pick up when everything on eu died out mate.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Lord_Carlos on April 05, 2018, 04:16:45 pm
Just give me the legendary title lavel and than wipe :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Larvae on April 05, 2018, 04:19:05 pm
just wipe everything and let us all start with gen 1 and lvl 1,ive said this long time ago.

who cares about looms and shit,they dont make u better,if u are a noob u die also with loomed stuff.

and if it doesnt work and those last 10 player leave aswell,then let it die already.

it did last long enough.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 05, 2018, 04:57:27 pm
just wipe everything and let us all start with gen 1 and lvl 1,ive said this long time ago.

who cares about looms and shit,they dont make u better,if u are a noob u die also with loomed stuff.

and if it doesnt work and those last 10 player leave aswell,then let it die already.

it did last long enough.

This, i'm 99% sure that a wipe won't revive the mod but it's worth the risk for the 1% chance. Currently mod is 100% dead.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: njames89 on April 05, 2018, 05:24:00 pm
Currently mod is 100% dead.

In EU maybe, but this is not the case in NA. Tbh even in EU there were 20-30 people on at the same time yesterday.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 05, 2018, 05:33:43 pm
In EU maybe, but this is not the case in NA. Tbh even in EU there were 20-30 people on at the same time yesterday.

Maybe so, but I and most others only really find it fun when there are like 50+. You guys should really just try the wipe (with backup first) it's win win for you, if mod is revived then you are heroes, if mod is still dead then you can say "told you so" to all the pro wipers and this whole argument can finally be put to bed.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: njames89 on April 05, 2018, 05:36:25 pm
Eh I am hesitant to risk the population that has just started playing NA strat again. We finally have a few clans going and have had some fun fights. I doubt that these  people will come back if its all reset.

I see the motivation behind the desire for a wipe and it is something I have thought over quite a few times. There are still lots of bugs that need fixing anyways before the game is wiped if we do wipe it, so there is some time to think about it more.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: bensai on April 05, 2018, 06:11:28 pm
Wipe just EU I guess NA has been pretty decent recently.

this is true. IDK why a bunch of EU players downvoted, it's the truth. if there is to be a wipe then poll NA and EU separately if they want it

Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 05, 2018, 06:26:44 pm
I think if we are going to have a wipe i would suggest maybe nerfing looms in general while keeping the stats somewhat the same by buffing base items. Maybe also go for some sort of new gold system. I think there are some opportunities to tune the progression and rewarding system to promote a more effort based gameplay to earn things rather than the leech heavy multiplier system. I think cRPG could use more developers but thats asking a lot for this dead mod.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: War_Ferret on April 05, 2018, 06:48:09 pm
The whole idea is almost as brilliant as nerfing ranged some moar. Wipe + remove ranged = cRPG renaissance!!

If you wipe it, they will come.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 05, 2018, 07:12:01 pm
Wiping won't save the mod, I don't think anything can. Boredom and repetition will kill it again even after a wipe, although it might give it a life boost for a few months.
I'm neither for or against at this point, I grinded 10 +3s that I like and wouldn't really want to have to grind again, then again, they are useless now anyway when the only time I can use them is on dtv alongside afina and a handful of other lobotomized retards.

I barely have any inclination to load up crpg, it's boring after 8 years. Frankly I just want to keep my crpg clan alive long enough that we can transition over to bonerlord smoothly.

I'm glad that the NA sector is alive and you guys are still enjoying the mod, us euros however really need something... anything to breathe some life back into us.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on April 05, 2018, 07:43:28 pm
voted yes because i only rarely am amused by populations of 20-40 players and long for the good ole' days which obviously aren't coming back

BUT i also never got to experience TRU peasanthood because i was a year or two late to the mod. this is my last chance, and if the remedy of a wipe kills the patient of cRPG it won't really bother me personally

Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Sagar on April 05, 2018, 08:21:14 pm
in seriousness yes that idea is 100% possible and would take less than 10 minutes to implement. not that it will or won't happen, just saying that it is very easy to do

Also we need Battle Royale server ...all spawn naked, looting ....   8-)
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 05, 2018, 08:36:34 pm
BUT i also never got to experience TRU peasanthood because i was a year or two late to the mod. this is my last chance

Sadly with current xp and gold system peasant wars would last a grand total of 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: SugarHoe on April 05, 2018, 11:14:17 pm
wiping won't solve the problem at all, looms really are not that much of a problem. its the skill difference between the incoming noobs and the sperg veterans. only thing a wipes gonna do is make the people that already do play not want to come back and start from fresh.


im pretty sure all of us would be able to kill and get killed at the same rate whether or not youre using loomed items.
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Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Trace_Legacy on April 05, 2018, 11:43:49 pm
Same fate awaits you as in OKAM :cry:
Just wait for Bannerlord.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Leshma on April 06, 2018, 12:22:09 am
Dear American capitalist swines,

If your server is showing signs of life and European server is ghost town then best course of action would be to finally unplug empty European server from database and keep playing on NA1. Don't fix what isn't broken, but if something is truly broken then take out the trash.

Your developers, your call. Europoors have no influence anymore and you shouldn't have to listen to them.

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Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Asheram on April 06, 2018, 01:39:11 am
giving a level 33 is just a bit ridiculous, you wanna make it like world of warcraft where you get a free level 100 without doing the content before that?

get the grind on from level 1, make ladders of people that are the highest level / gen and make it seem like a competition.
People wanting to nuke everything to 0 just so they can get the devs to nuke everything is ridiculous. If I have to start from lvl 0 again I will definately quit. If they do do a wipe I agree with kratos give everyone a lvl 35 character from the get go and make it locked so it cant be retired for 20 loompoints. I dont understand why this would bother you if all that is REALLY WANTED is EVERYONE ON EQUAL FOOTING?


On another totally unrelated topic Professor why do I have 20 of each kind of broken brigandine Armors, rus shoes etc in my inventory on Asheram and Skillless? At first I thought maybe it was a bug with high levels But Runs with Scissors is the same level as Skillless and his stuff is normal.

Actually Runs with Scissors isnt normal either, he doesn't have a bunch of stuff he never bought, but he doesn't have the +3 surgeons coat and +3 Rapier anymore either.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: RD_Professor on April 06, 2018, 01:54:01 am
On another totally unrelated topic Professor why do I have 20 of each kind of broken brigandine Armors, rus shoes etc in my inventory on Asheram and Skillless? At first I thought maybe it was a bug with high levels But Runs with Scissors is the same level as Skillless and his stuff is normal.

Actually Runs with Scissors isnt normal either, he doesn't have a bunch of stuff he never bought, but he doesn't have the +3 surgeons coat and +3 Rapier anymore either.
just close your eyes, it'll go back to normal soon
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Casimir on April 06, 2018, 02:15:26 am
Dear American capitalist swines,

If your server is showing signs of life and European server is ghost town then best course of action would be to finally unplug empty European server from database and keep playing on NA1. Don't fix what isn't broken, but if something is truly broken then take out the trash.

Your developers, your call. Europoors have no influence anymore and you shouldn't have to listen to them.

This message was signed and approved by Communism Vlad,
Emperor of the White Nation Sanctuary

remember kids if Leshma said it it's probably be totally wrong and mental
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Kadeth on April 06, 2018, 02:48:37 am
remember kids if Leshma said it it's probably be totally wrong and mental

a bona fide statement, but a reminder that no one needs
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Leshma on April 06, 2018, 02:58:48 am
remember kids if Leshma said it it's probably be totally wrong and mental

honestly, i wouldn't know about any of this, haven't touched crpg in four years or so.

waiting till professor gets a first full time job after he earns his degree so i can ask him to share, by then achieved cprg code, so i can look at it and wonder why i spent thousands of hours playing it in the past.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Golem on April 06, 2018, 07:55:11 am
If there's a wipe you absolutely need to rebalance most equipment. Especially armour weight. Make the game feel different again. There's no point in wiping if the meta stays exactly the same.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Jaytjuh on April 09, 2018, 01:09:05 pm
If there's a wipe you absolutely need to rebalance most equipment. Especially armour weight. Make the game feel different again. There's no point in wiping if the meta stays exactly the same.

most retarded thing ive heard, there was a time where 2h heroes were praised in updates, now it is xbows, the game is different by every update.

Or you are just too bad to realise it.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Bugnir on April 10, 2018, 12:47:49 pm
Instead of wiping levels and gold how about we just remove the shop and force everyone to equip Lederhosens, pitchforks and stones?
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on April 11, 2018, 08:57:17 pm
Shut the servers down and bury it, like a dog does to his shit.

You're thinking of cats, bro.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Sniger on April 12, 2018, 10:08:57 am
Maybe so, but I and most others only really find it fun when there are like 50+.

Agreed, Eu1 is only fun when 50+ players. However we still find cRPG fun with less. Every day we play DTV, sometimes as few as 3 people. We also get rather far considered our amount. Its fun despite the lack of players. I miss EU1 though
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Trace_Legacy on April 12, 2018, 08:43:08 pm
No wipe?
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Yeldur on April 12, 2018, 10:29:22 pm
-The website feels... nice to look at and navigate through. Crpg website on the other hand feels very clunky and as if it has been made by a mediocre webpage designer. (This is just criticism i do not want to insult anyone here) Also do not forget that some items aren't even shown in the shop. Meaning you have to buy them first, so that you can take a look a them.
only a braindead retard would suggest that SOMEHOW this pile of absolute garbage of a website is magically better than c-rpg's
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small restricted website with only 1/4 of the screen actually BEING a webpage and the rest of it just being a brown shitstain background.
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again, small restricted sized website like before, very simple and basic web design, text assigned with a HTML link to where you want to go. Basic and amateur work.
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once again small and restricted, what the fuck is this website? a pencil? nothing really interesting here to point out to make fun of. overall it's just MEH.

C-RPG's website isn't a work of art but it's FAR  better than that piece of shite you call a "website" - a two year old toddler could design that pile of wank in a day by learning the basic steps to HTML and CSS.

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website that actually takes up a whole page like a website SHOULD, cool interesting design with a nice background and with banner images assigned with a HTML link to different parts of the website and or links to other sites (I.E. Forums) - Text based buttons with links to other parts of the site as well such as the Strat page
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Website spans the whole page as usual, pictures to show each and every item as well as a lot of stat information, once again no brown shitstain to cover the majority of the page, different images to depict each different type of weapon etc that you can pick, I.E. a crossbow for crossbows, a bow for bows, a chestplate for body armour. It works.
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website still spans the entire page even though it isn't actually necessary for this bit, only change i would make personally is to have it centered, but that's really a non-issue. Gear shows clearly, displays everything you would need to see.

I don't really give a shit about all the other points you made even though a lot of them were wrong I decided to pick this one to pick apart as it was by far the most retarded. Mercs website is offensive at best to anyone who shows even the slightest interest in web development or EVEN just looking at any pleasing thing known to man. GTFO with your BS about mercs website somehow being better top fucking kek

you can enjoy your shitstain of a site and i'll enjoy an actually well made website. thanks.

Edit: Sorry I also realised I forgot to touch on your last point. The reason not all items are shown in the shop is that each time a new item is added they need to get the model up and take pictures of it, I'm not going to pretend to know the exact logistics but given that they are working on other things that are more important than doing this, they do it when they are able to, remember, these guys aren't being paid for this, they're taking time out of their day for it and not everyone can afford to be available to work 24/7 on mods. Though I will admit, perhaps a community led project to take pics of new items would be a good thing to do, I'd happily do it if somebody would provide me with a list of all the names of brand new items. If you want me to you can message me on the forums and I'll happily do it.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Trace_Legacy on April 13, 2018, 03:42:17 am
You can defend your mod with various points mate... But its a dead mod.
Mercenaries is still going healthy after almost 2 years without an update (200-220 players at peak hours)
While Crpg is getting updates at a reasonable speed and people are still not willing to play it (barely gets to 20 at EU servers). You and your friends probably like the mod out of nostalgia or something...but honestly its boring and tedious to play.

There are many people asking why others prefer Mercs over Crpg. I stated those answers to you. They may sound retarded but its those little things that actually makes the people encouraged to play.
(gold selling/buying and HH are the most effective ones)

But why am i even bothering? Crpg is dead and it seems like the wipe isn't coming. Time to switch to Mercs if you're from EU or wait for Bannerlord. No need to beat a dead horse.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Kadeth on April 13, 2018, 05:12:29 am
bruh, you said it yourself, mercs has real money marketplace. add that to cRPG and we'll max out the servers too.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Asheram on April 13, 2018, 05:13:35 am
You can defend your mod with various points mate... But its a dead mod.
Mercenaries is still going healthy after almost 2 years without an update (200-220 players at peak hours)
While Crpg is getting updates at a reasonable speed and people are still not willing to play it (barely gets to 20 at EU servers). You and your friends probably like the mod out of nostalgia or something...but honestly its boring and tedious to play.

There are many people asking why others prefer Mercs over Crpg. I stated those answers to you. They may sound retarded but its those little things that actually makes the people encouraged to play.
(gold selling/buying and HH are the most effective ones)

But why am i even bothering? Crpg is dead and it seems like the wipe isn't coming. Time to switch to Mercs if you're from EU or wait for Bannerlord. No need to beat a dead horse.
Bye, dont let the door hit you on the way out.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on April 13, 2018, 10:25:57 am
bruh, you said it yourself, mercs has real money marketplace. add that to cRPG and we'll max out the servers too.

wait wuuut? like, an underground loom exchange like Tanken and Murdertron after him ran? or something official?

really thought that the license agreement would have taleworlds shitting on someone selling stuff on a warband mod for real shekels
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Panos_ on April 13, 2018, 11:19:17 am
You can defend your mod with various points mate... But its a dead mod.
Mercenaries is still going healthy after almost 2 years without an update (200-220 players at peak hours)
While Crpg is getting updates at a reasonable speed and people are still not willing to play it (barely gets to 20 at EU servers). You and your friends probably like the mod out of nostalgia or something...but honestly its boring and tedious to play.

There are many people asking why others prefer Mercs over Crpg. I stated those answers to you. They may sound retarded but its those little things that actually makes the people encouraged to play.
(gold selling/buying and HH are the most effective ones)

But why am i even bothering? Crpg is dead and it seems like the wipe isn't coming. Time to switch to Mercs if you're from EU or wait for Bannerlord. No need to beat a dead horse.


from 2010 until 2015, and maybe half of 2016, c-rpg had more than 250 active players on average days, and more than 300 on weekends.
Eu1 had at least 100 players, siege had another 90, dtv was always full.

From 2010 until 2013, you needed to wait for a slot to open on EU1 so you could join, and thats a 200 slots server.


I installed Mercs mod a couple of days ago, and god, what a total shit.

With just a long axe and a light armour, I fucking dominated, most of the players are total shit, cant block more than 2 hits.
The gamespeed is inferior
Polestun still exists  :lol:

I could go on and on, but, yeah, Mercs mod aint worth it.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Oberyn on April 13, 2018, 11:28:41 am
My most hated factor of Merc mod is the stupid fucking "stun" added to cavalry whenever you land a stab or couch. Makes most cav fights be entirely about speedy hit and run or mass ganking, there's no finesse. You get half of each team being cav in battle and they destroyed anything that made cav vs cav fighting interesting with that one small change.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Yeldur on April 13, 2018, 02:06:28 pm
You can defend your mod with various points mate... But its a dead mod.
Mercenaries is still going healthy after almost 2 years without an update (200-220 players at peak hours)
While Crpg is getting updates at a reasonable speed and people are still not willing to play it (barely gets to 20 at EU servers). You and your friends probably like the mod out of nostalgia or something...but honestly its boring and tedious to play.

There are many people asking why others prefer Mercs over Crpg. I stated those answers to you. They may sound retarded but its those little things that actually makes the people encouraged to play.
(gold selling/buying and HH are the most effective ones)

But why am i even bothering? Crpg is dead and it seems like the wipe isn't coming. Time to switch to Mercs if you're from EU or wait for Bannerlord. No need to beat a dead horse.
Except you know, the majority of your points were absolute arse. Lol.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 13, 2018, 04:15:28 pm
What does it matter, in the end one is still alive and healthy. Obviously there are things to pick up on. Just the fact that they still have shitty players means people with no attachment to the mod can enjoy it. I think you need to ignore and force yourself to have fun in crpg now.
Title: Re: Its time for a wipe.
Post by: SugarHoe on April 22, 2018, 05:16:46 pm
What does it matter, in the end one is still alive and healthy. Obviously there are things to pick up on. Just the fact that they still have shitty players means people with no attachment to the mod can enjoy it. I think you need to ignore and force yourself to have fun in crpg now.
maybe shit tier betas play mercs cause they thrive and squirm around in beta bitch environments but when they come to crpg they get destroit by superior alphas and wriggle back to their beta environments