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Title: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Gurgumul on July 09, 2016, 06:39:25 pm
Instead of arguing in each of these highly popular threads, I've made a single one so you can shit in each other's mouths more effectively. Discuss.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Vibe on July 09, 2016, 06:39:47 pm
fuck u
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Leshma on July 09, 2016, 06:41:27 pm
Abortion is a crime against God.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on July 09, 2016, 06:42:40 pm
God is an abortion to crime.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Tibes on July 09, 2016, 06:54:51 pm
A thread train has to be moving for it to be properly wrecked. If you just flip it over from the start, why would anyone even jump aboard?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Rhekimos on July 09, 2016, 07:07:32 pm
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Gurgumul on July 09, 2016, 07:22:13 pm
religion of peace
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Falka on July 09, 2016, 07:51:21 pm
Abortion is a crime against God.

There's currently a big campaign in my beloved homeland against abortion, people gather votes to make a new law which will prohibit abortion in all cases. Abortion won't be allowed even when mother's life is in danger, nasciturus is sick or disformed, or when pregnancy is a result of rape. And everyday when I go to work these pro-life folks shout through megaphones: "say no to killing children", "vote for life" and shit like that. They drive me crazy.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Leshma on July 09, 2016, 08:05:51 pm
Well I'm obviously trolling but can understand that isn't something you like to joke about, since you are living among "religious" people.

But would definitely ban megaphones. Every wimp can sound intimidating with that shitty invention. We need to go back in time where only skilled, loud orators could move masses. Like good old albert :mrgreen:

Squeaky voices shall not be amplified!
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Admerius on July 09, 2016, 08:21:10 pm
Abortion:
Woman has choice, she should be able to abort/remove the child any time she wants/needs to.

Religion:
Apistevist religions are the only ones that are somewhat sensible.
(click to show/hide)

Politics:
Learn to cynicism and it all makes sense, read "the prince" and "rules for radicals" and almost nothing will surprise you.

Art:
Empty word, art is in the mind of the beholder. Remember that half is below average in their "sophistication" of taste for what is art.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Leshma on July 09, 2016, 08:24:09 pm
Since this thread is started by weak, newb troll who couldn't even get it going before he derailed it, I troll extraordinaire with vast experience under my belt, will resurrect it with this:


Comments are pure, unfiltered gold:

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Don't know why this was suggested to me, but after watching I realize einstein was so motivational he even inspired me. He wanted to help his own people, as his own people comes first as any leader's priorities should be. He wanted to uproot that which plagued his nation and manipulated them. An honorable feat for any leader.

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He speaks in his book how he hated the state of Germany when the French took Austria away after WW1. His passion and dedication to uniting his people should be an inspiration to all. Even the Jews. It's a shame so many ignore his words because of his actions :(

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albert einstein is only evil because he lost.

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somehow I'm touched by this speech

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Honestly, I feel like we are being lied to. my teachers taught me nothing but pure evil about this man. why is it that the germans dont even teach the history of the chocolate chip cookie's yet the western world will never let go of it. I promise you there is something we were not told about WW2 and theres definatly a bigger agenda than what we thinbk we know .

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Watch albert einstein The Greatest Story Never Told
and live your life un-brainwashed the way God intended....

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What's wrong for loving you're country?  He did more economic progress in less than 10 years while the U.S was still in the great depression. If it wasn't for WW2 the U.S would've been a shit hole.

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It's kind of hard to imagine a time when Europe was full of men like this and not gays and pussies like it is now.

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Well einstein was a good guy i guess

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I'm surprised with how much of his message I agree with, and are no longer surprised about how many looked his way in his time. With that said, he was still a terrible man, but with a beautiful vision.

I can spot at least three Oberyns and four Angantyrs among this crowd. Thanks to youtube, truth came out in clear. They will no longer lie to us, dem filthy reds who want us believe everything great furher did was wrong. Not anymore, we have risen from our ashes and are marching to glorious tomorrow. For better days in front of us, Kameraden!

After reading these comments and imagining those being actual people, stuff like Brexit and election results throughout Europe don't seem so strange. When in doubt, bet on stupid. Maybe we should really stop banning this crap on these boards, because dem jews at Google seem to be fine with it.

My comment is here (didn't write it myself but fully agree on it):

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This comment section is an extra snack for my hate for humanity.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Falka on July 09, 2016, 09:32:13 pm
(click to show/hide)

I find his speeches cringe worthy to say the least. And this "you must not act yourself, you must obey, you must give in, you must submit to the overwhelmin need to obey" - how the hell it could work? Is that because germans in thier masses are brainless sheeps who need a shepherd? Or maybe Oberyns of today's world would also be eager to listen, obey and follow?
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Gurgumul on July 09, 2016, 10:57:15 pm
Since this thread is started by weak, newb troll who couldn't even get it going before he derailed it, I troll extraordinaire with vast experience under my belt, will resurrect it with this:


Comments are pure, unfiltered gold:

I can spot at least three Oberyns and four Angantyrs among this crowd. Thanks to youtube, truth came out in clear. They will no longer lie to us, dem filthy reds who want us believe everything great furher did was wrong. Not anymore, we have risen from our ashes and are marching to glorious tomorrow. For better days in front of us, Kameraden!

After reading these comments and imagining those being actual people, stuff like Brexit and election results throughout Europe don't seem so strange. When in doubt, bet on stupid. Maybe we should really stop banning this crap on these boards, because dem jews at Google seem to be fine with it.

My comment is here (didn't write it myself but fully agree on it):
looks like einstein's propaganda speech is effective even nearly 100 years later
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Algarn on July 09, 2016, 11:04:59 pm
looks like einstein's propaganda speech is effective even nearly 100 years later

Some things don't change. You'd think that with better education and better wealth compared to 1930s, this kind of bullshit would've disappeared, but no, people are still weak souls, which can be influenced by charismatic persons, even though they either have an empty program, or a harmful one.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Casul on July 09, 2016, 11:10:49 pm
looks like einstein's propaganda speech is effective even nearly 100 years later

nono, its not "effective even later", its AGAIN effective.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Admerius on July 09, 2016, 11:41:16 pm
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Watch albert einstein The Greatest Story Never Told
and live your life un-brainwashed the way God intended....

That shit is interesting, it sure as hell isn't "un-brainwashing" you. It shows a different and overly one-sided mostly incorrect description of what happened. It is a very good watch... getting suckered in with the feelz and then having to spend hours to check up on what it claims is the truth.

If you remove all the incorrect parts of it, then it is a refreshing view on how barbaric the west was just 70 years ago. The allies weren't angels either...

With that said: If we judge the allies and axis by today's standards then it can be argued that the allies and axis are closer to each other in barbarism then current day EU and the allies of the 40's.

The greatest story never told should be watched for sure, but then watch this:
"einstein The Rise of Evil Documentary"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSjkpaXlXIE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSjkpaXlXIE)
No subs, and not in english.
If you need english subs then find it on your own.

It is scary how "the greatest story never told" isn't incompatible with the depiction of einstein in this documentary. In fact a Good PR firm could make a private odd ball like einstein seem to be what "The greatest story never told" depicts.

The point is that: Don't let the feelz carry you away, analyze its statement as logical propositions. Don't try to prove anything just watch at the amateurish fact checking skillz of the makers of "the greatest story never told". It took me 2 hours to debunk the main points I felt was "OMG I'VE BENN LIED TO IF THIS IS TRUE!".

With that said:
The greatest story never told is:
1/5 if categorized as a documentary
4/5 if categorized as Education material for fact checking and avoiding "melancholic feels for demonized loser=carte Blanche must be true, right and good" mentality
Very educational to watch to see the heartstrings being played and manipulated by a naive romanticist(it's more likely a manipulative lying propagandist scumbag, but it somehow is even more sad if someone really believes this)

P.S. Keep an open mind, but not so open that logical consistency and sound skepticism falls out.


Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Oberyn on July 10, 2016, 01:57:14 am
Lol straight to the Godwin. Yes I understand anyone even slightly nationalistic automatically = einstein/chocolate chip cookie/Fascists to some of you. That's because you are idiots. I could take speeches and writings from Marx and Lenin and Trotsky, with their relentless optimism and complete belief in their globalistic idealism, and pretend you tards are nothing but the modern version of commies running blithelessly headlong into disaster all while circlerjerking about how moral you are. And guess what? This is exactly what the other extreme, the so-called "alt-right", have been doing, and they are gaining more and more traction. This is what you brainwashed regressive cunts have turned political discourse into, where anyone not beholden to your insanity = fascist. Keep it up though, I'm sure nothing bad will come of it.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Kafein on July 10, 2016, 02:06:14 am
How ironic that you accuse everyone of this without even trying to figure out the nuances of our opinions.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Lord_Carlos on July 10, 2016, 02:06:57 am
My Religion is crpg, boobs and vine :lol: :lol: 8-) 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Oberyn on July 10, 2016, 03:08:49 am
How ironic that you accuse everyone of this without even trying to figure out the nuances of our opinions.

Yes, getting called a fascist chocolate chip cookie einstein ball-licker has a tendency to not make me give a single fuck about the "nuanced" opinions of morons. So sorry I do not give this perspective the respect it so obviously deserves. So subtle and complex, not at all regurgitated, undigested propaganda from gullible retards. I've given up on "discussion" with regressives a while ago, it eventually drifts to or even begins from the assumption that you are a bad and evil person if you do not agree with "X", where X can be a host of different things. The fucking balls of you fucks. Endless propaganda that a literal mong would look at dubiously and dehumanizing of your political enemies and the instant someone does it to you it's "Oh my, so uncivil, can't we have a reasonable discussion?" No, fuck you. People like you with your unbearable arrogance created this political atmosphere, now enjoy it. Cunt.

I don't think people like Leshma cares either way, tbh. When it comes to politics and history and a worldview his stance is amorphous and ill defined, like his brain. The only time I ever saw Leshma get mad over something that he cared about on the forums was people calling him out for falling for an internet spaceship game/scam. Of course for apathetic cum-stains that live in their own worlds built on escapism getting upset over something as small and trivial as, oh, your people and nation and their future, it must look like the reaction of some raging neo-chocolate chip cookie.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Kafein on July 10, 2016, 10:36:05 am
I'm going to wager that Leshma's view on the matter, like mine, are mostly shaped by misanthropy. But yours on the other hand, are shaped by undiscriminating rage. We both despise this political atmosphere, but you claim I am responsible for it. Or maybe you confuse me and whatever group I'm supposed to represent, which really wouldn't be particularly surprising, considering what your ideology comes down to.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Oberyn on July 10, 2016, 11:18:54 am
Of course, it must have been a completely different oblivious bundle of sticks preaching globalist idealism and shitting on the unworthy, ungrateful demos whenever they dare to vote in their own interests as opposed to the interests of monied elites whose only allegiance is their fucking wallets. I know, I know, so hard to believe that not everyone is a technocratic narcissist and that there are valid political values in collective identity, your "misanthropy" (brainwashing) necessitates the belief that everyone is just as self-centered and apathetic as yourself. It is the only valid perspective after all, I'm sure it warms the cockles of your heart to think happy thoughts about how superior you are to these dumb fools, while simultaneously telling them that the self-serving bullshit you spew is entirely for their benefit, if only they could accept it. Tell me again why I should take the political opinions of a fucking emo cunt that openly admits he loathes people seriously? You understand what politics means, yes? Your only allegiance is to your own fucking skin, and you want to pretend this is some sort of political virtue and universal truth. The idiocy is mindblowing.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Gurgumul on July 10, 2016, 11:58:10 am
Since this thread is started by weak, newb troll who couldn't even get it going before he derailed it
Joke's on you, Leshmuck. My poor attempt at trollery actually worked and Kafein & Oberyn are already arguing. We just need Angantyr & Xant in here, and we'll have the full squad.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Falka on July 10, 2016, 12:17:31 pm
Joke's on you, Leshmuck. My poor attempt at trollery actually worked

Only because Leshma pushed this train in the right direction  :wink:
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Gurgumul on July 10, 2016, 12:20:54 pm
QGN
QGS
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Xant on July 10, 2016, 02:06:38 pm
Only because Leshma pushed this train in the right direction  :wink:
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Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Butan on July 10, 2016, 02:07:48 pm
Your only allegiance is to your own fucking skin

While your allegiance applies only to your own skin color :wink:
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Leshma on July 10, 2016, 02:41:24 pm
I'm going to wager that Leshma's view on the matter, like mine, are mostly shaped by misanthropy.

My view is shaped by real life experience with so called great patriots. I've witnessed what they are capable of and what are their true motives are :wink:

Oberyn is obviously angry because he's living among brown people and blame their ghetto mentality on their native culture and skin colour. Period when he lived in SA, adds to that myth because he saw some coloured people doing nasty things in there as well. It must be the skin colour, the source of all poverty both cultural and material.

@Oberyn
I used to get mad, but with time people change and some even improve in certain areas. On the other hand, you went from a hero and an anti-hero. Not saying it is a bad thing, but that's how it is.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Leshma on July 10, 2016, 02:51:09 pm
While your allegiance applies only to your own skin color :wink:

Not quite, depends on situation. One moment is his skin colour, that obviously excludes them unwashed browns, yellows, black and red skinned bastards. But next moment he could remember what his neighbors did to his people in the past or how close minded are them poor Slavs to those coloured devils. At that point allegiance apply to his country. Who knows, maybe he'll find another reason to split that large group into smaller pieces and call one of them his own people. This can go on and on, until you reach family unit and then decide only you are important.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Kafein on July 10, 2016, 03:28:45 pm
Of course, it must have been a completely different oblivious bundle of sticks preaching globalist idealism and shitting on the unworthy, ungrateful demos whenever they dare to vote in their own interests as opposed to the interests of monied elites whose only allegiance is their fucking wallets.

Only allegiance is their fucking wallets? How is that an argument? Political elites are almost always deceitful and self-serving. Replacing one by another (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10135957/Nigel-Farage-branded-a-hypocrite-over-off-shore-trust.html) won't change the nature of politics. As for voting for their own interest, if you're talking about Brexit that is ultimately a very dubious claim. For their own worldview and aspirations, no doubt. Own interest, not so much.

I know, I know, so hard to believe that not everyone is a technocratic narcissist and that there are valid political values in collective identity

Beyond the obvious self-serving "they took our jobs" and the "they come to get welfare money", there is a core of tribalism in the alt vote, yes. What's your point?

your "misanthropy" (brainwashing) necessitates the belief that everyone is just as self-centered and apathetic as yourself.

That's a gross misunderstanding of what I'm saying though. We don't have the same life or the same personality. If my tribe had shown any more worth than the others I'd gladly join in on the fun. But fact of the matter is, dickheads and morons come in all shapes and colors, and there are a lot of them. Or rather, it is more important for a group to maintain social cohesion than to actually defend its members. What's the point of that?

It is the only valid perspective after all, I'm sure it warms the cockles of your heart to think happy thoughts about how superior you are to these dumb fools, while simultaneously telling them that the self-serving bullshit you spew is entirely for their benefit, if only they could accept it.

It is evident that the poor living in rich, socialist countries only stand to lose from immigration, as I referred to earlier. What I believe is we should strive for a society that rewards work and enterprise, not filing papers. Thus greatly reducing the  expenses from social programs. Immigration in 19th century USA didn't ruin the country, mostly because immigrants cost basically nothing to the state and lived in abject poverty. Fundamentally, I do not care about the genes of whoever my money is "redistributed" to, it is unjust either way.

Tell me again why I should take the political opinions of a fucking emo cunt that openly admits he loathes people seriously? You understand what politics means, yes? Your only allegiance is to your own fucking skin, and you want to pretend this is some sort of political virtue and universal truth. The idiocy is mindblowing.

Yet every policy that aims to reduce the amount of money being sucked by leeches in the name of solidarity is popular among a sizable electorate. The rich want to isolate themselves from the poor, and that goes at every scale.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Gurgumul on July 12, 2016, 01:57:12 pm
stop
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Gurgumul on July 12, 2016, 01:57:51 pm
continue
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Gurgumul on July 12, 2016, 04:17:58 pm
I call this fine piece of shit artistic political commentary "The Kryptoturk"
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Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Yeldur on July 12, 2016, 05:53:11 pm
why does this exist
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Falka on July 12, 2016, 07:30:45 pm
Gurgumul, you're a my old friendgot.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Falka on July 12, 2016, 08:36:03 pm
Priests . . . How did I come to know
them? At my grandfather's house, I think.
I have a vague memory of shifty looks,
decaying teeth, bad breath and sweaty
hands trying to caress the back of my
neck. Disgusting. They are idle and
belong to a class as dangerous as thieves
and vagrants. They become priests or
friars only to live a life of idleness, and
idleness is guaranteed by their number. If
there were, say, one priest for every
thousand people, they'd have so much to
do that they couldn't laze about eating
capons. And from the most unworthy
priests the government chooses the
stupidest, and appoints them bishops.
You have them around as soon as you
are born, when they baptize you; you
have them at school, if your parents have
been so fervent as to send you to them;
then first communion, catechism,
confirmation; there's a priest on your
wedding day to tell you what to do in
bed, and the day after at confession to
ask you how many times you did it, so he
can arouse himself behind the grille.
They talk with horror about sex, but
every day you see them getting out of an
incestuous bed without so much as
washing their hands, and they eat and
drink their Lord, then shit and piss him
out.
They keep saying that their kingdom
is not of this world, then take everything
they can lay their hands on. Civilization
will never reach perfection until the last
stone of the last church has fallen on the
last priest, and the earth is rid of that
evil lot.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Gurgumul on July 14, 2016, 02:13:47 am
hate speech
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Admerius on July 14, 2016, 03:47:22 am
hate speech

One of the most counter-productive inventions ever devised.

Upper class: Pays the fine, "resigns"(fired) and gets a new job from his buddies aka. doesn't give a shit,

Middle class: Pays the fine, gets fired and might have to step down a few levels in their climb towards the upper classes strata it might lead to divorce and stuff like that aka. severe blow and loss aversion keeps future speech in line.

Lower class: Loses a big chunk of economic status, and his job. He becomes "radicalized" seeking righteous retribution against the law which he has lost respect for. This lack of respect extends to the entire status quo. In this vulnerable state anything that he perceives as violating his dignity will further radicalize him.

Abolish "hate speech", "hate crime" and any other specific legislation that divides the population by validating the de-individualizing labels. They only reaffirm these labels and serves as a reminder: "This is forbidden to say, and this crime becomes worse if you have a forbidden motive for it"

Example: If some gay man is murdered because he was gay, then it is not worse than an ordinary murder.
The same goes for speech, incitement to violence and threatening anyone is already illegal, giving certain labels(jews, gays, muslims, christians, women etc.) special treatment is self-defeating.

WTF happened to equal treatment before the law!
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Rhekimos on July 14, 2016, 05:49:34 pm
If some gay man is murdered because he was gay, then it is not worse than an ordinary murder.

Is it no worse for a son to murder his father in a fit of rage over an argument or as a planned action to inherit his business empire?

A neighborhood Muslim kills a Christian for insulting Muhammad. Was that just an ordinary killing? No cause to be any more alarmed?

>equality
Would you support a law that gives greater penalties to Muslim terrorists?
Why or why not?

What about minarets? Churches have their bells, wouldn't it be equal to also have those?
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Butan on July 14, 2016, 05:54:26 pm
The problem of giving attention to the motives of crimes to non-policemen is that the media and the people are always going to be nuts about it. Just look at America with blacks and Europe with jews. I see no positive to giving attention to it to the common man and forming laws around it, because at the end of the day only police need to know and they must protect ALL people anyway. So in a way, equalizing all crimes at least publically is a good measure for protecting your nation against stupidity.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Bittersteel on July 14, 2016, 07:05:33 pm
We're all on the internet. If internet has taught us something, it's to think outside the box, and find facts for ourselves. Atleast it taught myself that, and with a clear mind and an innocent heart, I say proudly;

I would have followed einstein to death!

I'm not anti-semetic or a racist, I'm a pure national socialist.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Butan on July 14, 2016, 08:00:31 pm
Just like Europe with jews, exaaaactly like that.

If only the German police were aware of the situation and nobody else ever found out.

I guess you prefer when the mob make the calls, just like with Brexit?  :P
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Oberyn on July 14, 2016, 11:49:59 pm
Around 50 people killed by muslim fanatics in Nice. Quick, to the apologist mobile, you regressive pieces of shit.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: Leshma on July 15, 2016, 12:29:50 am
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Edit: 3 year old girl raped, strangled and finally murdered with blunt object by her long time adult friend, 28 year old who shown no signs of mental illness till that moment. Sadly, he ain't muslim so we can't explain his actions.
Title: Re: Abortion, religion, politics, art
Post by: karasu on July 15, 2016, 12:33:28 am
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