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Title: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 07, 2016, 02:08:11 pm

Very epic fail indeed!
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Bronto on April 07, 2016, 03:25:14 pm
I'm not saying that can't possibly be the trailer because it's just a bunch of recycled footage from the movies and video games.....but that can't possibly be the official trailer because it's just a bunch of recycled footage from the movies and video games.......
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Jona on April 07, 2016, 04:12:36 pm
I'm not saying that can't possibly be the trailer because it's just a bunch of recycled footage from the movies and video games.....but that can't possibly be the official trailer because it's just a bunch of recycled footage from the movies and video games.......

Yeah you can tell it isn't the real one since it doesnt include forest whitacre portraying himself.

Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Renay on April 07, 2016, 04:34:07 pm
Epic Fail, Anders.

And yay! They finally combined Ip-Man and Star Wars... about damn time!
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Molly on April 07, 2016, 04:43:55 pm
Was about to post the real one as well.
Quality was so off, I figured it couldn't be the real deal...
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Prpavi on April 07, 2016, 05:14:24 pm
So what is this exacty? Is it a prequel to the sequel or part 2 or what?
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Leshma on April 07, 2016, 05:20:15 pm
Spin-off. Happens between Ep III and Ep IV. Prequel to Ep IV A New Hope (original Star Wars).
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: LordBerenger on April 07, 2016, 06:48:25 pm
Girls as main characters rox! Ayy lmao
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Kalam on April 07, 2016, 09:06:15 pm
Epic Fail, Anders.

And yay! They finally combined Ip-Man and Star Wars... about damn time!

I'm worried they won't use Donnie Yen properly. They had Iko Uwais and Yayan Ruhian from The Raid in The Force Awakens, but we didn't get any epic fight scenes out of that. It was essentially a cameo.

Lastly, take a look at the director and lead writer. The guy who brought us Godzilla and Monsters, and the guy who gave us...Cinderella. I'm guessing they're going to act like it's going to be an action movie, but it ends up being a bunch of people brooding all over the place.

I can hope, though. Boy can I hope. I hope it turns out to be Seven Samurai in Star Wars.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: IR_Kuoin on April 07, 2016, 09:08:02 pm
Female main character? No thanks. They always end up being shit.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Renay on April 07, 2016, 11:00:20 pm

Lastly, take a look at the director and lead writer. The guy who brought us Godzilla and Monsters, and the guy who gave us...Cinderella. I'm guessing they're going to act like it's going to be an action movie, but it ends up being a bunch of people brooding all over the place.



I just watched Monsters yesterday, I think it did a good job. Had quite a believable atmosphere about it. Godzilla was a decent action movie as well. Can't say much about Cinderella since I haven't seen that, but interesting choice.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Xant on April 07, 2016, 11:34:44 pm
Small female lead playing the ass-kicking-ninja-girl. Yawn. Looks about as convincing (that is to say, not) as the girl in Force Awakens who had no idea how to even move her body.

Don't think I've ever seen a convincing female lead in an action movie, they never come across as plausible. Not just the whole "she doesn't look/move at all like someone capable of kicking ass and taking names" but they also never project that kind of aura/personality. Lara Croft might be the closest, and that's probably because I haven't seen the movie in 15 years.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 07, 2016, 11:39:49 pm
I'm not saying that can't possibly be the trailer because it's just a bunch of recycled footage from the movies and video games.....but that can't possibly be the official trailer because it's just a bunch of recycled footage from the movies and video games.......

Bah. Was at work and couldn't watch the whole thing to check it.

Epic fail indeed. My coworker had it up on Facebook.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Molly on April 08, 2016, 10:06:41 am
Can I finally dare to say it?
I watched the last Star Wars movie a couple of days ago...

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Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Rhekimos on April 08, 2016, 10:16:22 am
Can I finally dare to say it?
I watched the last Star Wars movie a couple of days ago...

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J.J. "lensflare" Abrams.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Rhekimos on April 08, 2016, 11:20:15 am
As a device for extracting cash out of people going into the movies, Star Wars Force Awakens was a resounding success. Good for you Disney.
As a movie to stand on its own, it was not great. All the old and new, women leads and the black guy in the white man's army aside.

This new one might be more interesting though. Maybe a little more grit, and less space for a terrible plot in what looks more like a military movie type affair. I'm cautiously expectant.

The directors track record (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2284484/?ref_=tt_ov_dr) isn't overwhelmingly promising, but maybe he won't mangle scifi as badly as Abrams.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: IR_Kuoin on April 08, 2016, 11:29:53 am
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Overdriven on April 08, 2016, 12:34:40 pm
Hate what they are doing with this. It looks like Hunger Games Mockingjay 2.0.

I don't mind a female lead. But they all end up exactly the same these days. Everything about this trailer looks like a copy and paste from the Hunger Games. All they need is a crowd chanting a song and they've got it.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: darmaster on April 08, 2016, 01:02:14 pm
0:57 the beating on the dog starts, fucking savage and disgusting
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Jona on April 08, 2016, 04:03:24 pm
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I think they've gone on record saying that this spin off would be darker and grittier, a little more "realistic" since it  wouldn't include jedi and sith running around everywhere. Instead it focuses on the "common" soldier, and some are saying it is more like a modern military action/thriller movie than it is a classic Star Wars, in both tone and plot. Some people are noticeably stoked to see what they can do with this, cuz dark and gritty is that peeps want nowadays after watching them Nolan Batman flicks. God forbid a movie be a little more lighthearted and simply fun to watch nowadays!
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Jacko on April 08, 2016, 04:05:58 pm
Looks fine. Wasn't too impressed by Force Awakens, and though this looks slightly more interesting (supposedly grittier etc), I very much doubt it's going to veer too far off from the beaten star wars path Disney have laid out.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Xant on April 08, 2016, 04:33:37 pm
The Force Awakens is on the same level as Disney cartoons. Childish all around and very light-hearted. That's why a lot of people didn't like TFA: when they watched the other Star Wars movies, they were a lot younger, and so they loved those. But now that they're grown up, things are different. People who loved the Lion King as kids would most likely dislike a remake that was as cartoony, too.

So I thought TFA was shit, but that's because I like darker/more mature sci-fi. It was a good "Star Wars" movie, I guess. And sci-fi doesn't have to be serious to not be childish; look at Firefly for example, an extremely funny series and then a movie, but not childish at all.

Good thing http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2261227/ this is coming, going to be the best thing to ever grace TV.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Asheram on April 08, 2016, 04:51:55 pm
Is Donnie Yen a Jedi or a Sith Lord?
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Renay on April 08, 2016, 05:01:28 pm
Is Donnie Yen a Jedi or a Sith Lord?

Would fit better as a Jedi. I hope Forest Whitaker is a Sith  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Xant on April 08, 2016, 05:09:28 pm
Forest Whitaker's mere presence ruins movies.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Leshma on April 08, 2016, 05:11:15 pm
Is Donnie Yen a Jedi or a Sith Lord?

They should be no Jedis in this movie afaik.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Renay on April 08, 2016, 05:14:18 pm
They should be no Jedis in this movie afaik.

Might be true as well, but tell me Donnie Yen wouldn't make a kick ass Jedi Master  :mrgreen:

And I think there is gonna be at least one Jedi in the movie, since they are the most iconic thing about Star Wars and Disney knows that.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Asheram on April 08, 2016, 05:41:18 pm
Would fit better as a Jedi. I hope Forest Whitaker is a Sith  :mrgreen:
So after watching the trailer again he is beating up stormtroopers so he must be on the good side. And listening to Forests dialogue it seems he is too.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Leshma on April 08, 2016, 06:53:07 pm
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Edwards has described the film as a grounded, war-based movie, one in which normal people have to come together to fight the Empire as opposed to relying on the Jedi or the Force.

Rebels but not Jedis. Unless Edwards changed his mind after Disney used force persuasion on him. Hope that's not the case, this is supposed to be "indie" SW spin-off not your typical blockbuster SW episode.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Westwood on April 08, 2016, 07:16:02 pm
The NEW BIGGER PLANET-SIZED DEATH STAR was very original and creative, I especially liked that the one thing that was different about it from the other TWO (aside from size) was that it sucked up actual stars to make it's super laser thing.

Force Awakens was more a caricature of A New Hope than anything else. Like a campy fan tribute. The Thrawn Trilogy + Expanded Universe in general was a much better spiritual successor to the originals imo tbh fam.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Rhekimos on April 08, 2016, 10:32:46 pm
I've ceased to be amazed at the internet, but it always puzzles me when a film that was well reviewed and then enjoyed by everyone I've spoken to IRL (whether they were star wars fans or not) is so conclusively stated as a 'bad film' online as if this is a forgone conclusion.

The film was successful. I know this doesn't mean it was good, but this also doesn't mean it was bad. All of my friends, family and work colleagues enjoyed it and so did i (and I'm a massive star wars nerd). People who hate star wars but were dragged there by their other half enjoyed it.

I think Abrams knocked The Force Awakens out of the ballpark. Other than angry nerd rant style youtube videos, I've only heard a lot of negativity about the film on this forum and you know what people here are like.

As for this trailer, Disney have recently become adept at keeping the best parts of the movie out of their early trailers (or even showing scenes that are actually cut by the time the film comes out). The 1st Force Awakens trailer looked like the whole film would just be a jolly Star Wars jape, the 2nd hinted that events after Return of the Jedi weren't as idyllic as anticipated, and then the film starts with a cool village massacre scene. Also, none of the early Force Awakens trailers showed Rey with a lightsaber, only the bit where Fin holds it so that was deliberately misleading. There's a good chance that this film will be nothing like the trailer has indicated, for better or worse.



And if you're really THAT sensitive about the gender of one of the protagonists in a film, at least we're basically guaranteed a Boba Fett or young Han Solo spin-off film in the future. I personally don't necessarily look for 'grit' when i look for sci fi, i spent most of Battlestar Galactica laughing at how edgy and 'dirty' everything was trying to look. But it'd be an interesting tactic to try and go for a different 'feel' in the spin off movies to try and appeal to different audiences, i enjoyed The Force Awakens so maybe this spinoff film will be deliberately targeted at people who want something different in a Star Wars film.

Is it really such a novel notion that something commercially successful can also be kinda crap?
Is McDonald's some kind of high point for culinary experience?

"I've only heard differing opinions from certain types of people" is not a great argument for the movie being good.

Not sure where you're getting this "if you're really THAT sensitive about the gender" thing either since it was you who brought it up in the first place. It was not a weighty factor in my criticism at least.

Fanboy or just enjoy it away as something different, but it wasn't very good in my opinion. And Abrams remains a crap director.


Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Overdriven on April 08, 2016, 11:26:32 pm
A couple of my friends disliked it. But the majority enjoyed it. If you take it for what it was it's a good film. Obviously there are annoyances, like the emo teenage Kylo Ren (seriously I couldn't imagine a less threatening villain), but as an overall movie it's good.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Rhekimos on April 08, 2016, 11:51:11 pm
It was aimed at someone else? Fair enough, my confusion then.

The defenses thrown up for it are myriad though.

Only angry youtube nerds hate it.
A minority of fans are bitchy about it who can't deal with new canon.
A female lead is too scary.
MAXIMUM OVER-SUCCESS AT BOX OFFICE.
It wasn't exactly the same as IV-VI, therefore bad. Or 1-3, some people are really weird.
Muh racism.

If you didn't like it, it must have been one of these petty reasons. No real person could dislike it for what it is.

This is what got me going.

I give it 4/10, would not watch again but neither would not complain about it in the presence of a die hard fan who I appreciated enough to go to the movies to watch it with.


Good thing http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2261227/ this is coming, going to be the best thing to ever grace TV.

Shit, I just read the Takeshi Kovacs novels. HYPE!
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Xant on April 09, 2016, 12:16:10 am
Shit, I just read the Takeshi Kovacs novels. HYPE!
http://www.richardkmorgan.com/2016/01/faq-ac/

10/10, ideal conditions. Morgan going to be involved in it fairly heavily, a series instead of a movie, and best of all, maxed out budget, ten episodes commissioned instantly without even asking to see a pilot.
Title: Re: Rogue One (Star Wars) Trailer Released
Post by: Rhekimos on April 09, 2016, 12:17:19 am
Quite promising.