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Title: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on December 28, 2015, 11:51:25 pm

Anybody played this yet?

I won't even try to describe what it is, I'm still at the beginning anyway.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Polobow on December 29, 2015, 12:46:24 am

Played it, loved it. If you're not sure yet if you want to play, just pirate it. It's not worth it to get spoiled, since it really shines on those moments.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Rhekimos on December 29, 2015, 01:26:47 am

You should try it.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on December 29, 2015, 04:17:18 am

It's awesome, but don't spoil the major plot points which is really hard at this point.

Play it.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on December 29, 2015, 04:19:36 am

fucking retconned my comment because saying ANYTHING about this fucking game is a motherfuckign spoiler

 i love spooki skeleton memes so this game was a critical hit on me, thank mr. spagheti

but yeah, the soundrack is just wonderful, 10/10 would bang

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Ikarus on December 29, 2015, 02:31:52 pm

Kafein, if you were a pokemon, you would be this one  :lol:

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the internet has been going wild about this game for the past 2 months (since its release) and has somewhat calmed down again just some weeks ago

The game is very good. Don´t spoil yourself if you want the full experience. Enjoy.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on December 29, 2015, 02:40:49 pm

I love the OST already. And yes I'm slow, Biscuit guy convinced me and virtually anything is a spoiler.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Leshma on December 29, 2015, 02:45:50 pm

I've seen his Top10 list. John Bain has horrible taste in video games. So many team based online crap games...

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: SixThumbs on December 29, 2015, 02:55:30 pm

I really enjoyed it, there's a demo if you want to try before you buy it.

The meme-ish nature, and ann-ee-may-ness was a bit off-putting at times (and even more off-putting in retrospect) but I managed to avoid the hype, went into it completely blind and was pleasantly surprised.

I dunno how well I would've received it if I didn't have a deep nostalgia for Earthbound, easter eggs and enjoying shmups.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on December 29, 2015, 03:10:48 pm

I really like reading about how other people play this game by the way. 

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on December 29, 2015, 04:30:23 pm

Quote from: Leshma on December 29, 2015, 02:45:50 pm

I've seen his Top10 list. John Bain has horrible taste in video games. So many team based online crap games...

His tastes often align with mine, being mechanically-centered and all. So this surprising choice did pique my interest.

Besides, there's a tsunderplane, and annoying dogs.

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I really like reading about how other people play this game by the way. 

I would advise against that. This isn't SOMA.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Leshma on December 29, 2015, 05:39:34 pm

I'm also pro game mechanics and don't give two fucks about your average game story and absolutely detest unskippable cinematics. However, after long term exposure to online gaming and having to deal with new generations, I've started avoiding online centered games. Especially games meant for average Joe like these action MOBA games. Nothing against Untertale or Sunless Sea, just commenting on his other choices.

Maybe I'm bit bitter because I'm unable to get my real life friends to play co-op games with me. Only then I find playing those games worthwhile experience.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on December 29, 2015, 08:01:27 pm

Quote from: Leshma on December 29, 2015, 05:39:34 pm

I'm also pro game mechanics and don't give two fucks about your average game story and absolutely detest unskippable cinematics. However, after long term exposure to online gaming and having to deal with new generations, I've started avoiding online centered games. Especially games meant for average Joe like these action MOBA games. Nothing against Untertale or Sunless Sea, just commenting on his other choices.

Maybe I'm bit bitter because I'm unable to get my real life friends to play co-op games with me. Only then I find playing those games worthwhile experience.

Playing with my old friends from the cRPG and Planetside 2 communities is fine for me. I don't generally appreciate games that are only playable in coop simply because it's not convenient, but in most cases those few hours are definitely worth it, and I can afford poor value.

John Bain definitely has genres missing in his portfolio. I'm very much interested in puzzle games such as Portal, The Talos Principle or even Antichamber but he's not. In fact, almost anything actually cerebral seems to be outside of his expertise, as the only kind of strategy he seems to play (Starcraft and the like) is more accurately described as Clicking Fast Simulator, not actual strategy.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on December 30, 2015, 03:41:39 pm

The OST of this is phenomenal, especially considering it's a one man game

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on December 30, 2015, 04:44:31 pm

Quote from: Kafein on December 30, 2015, 03:41:39 pm

The OST of this is phenomenal, especially considering it's a one man game

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level 2

https://soundcloud.com/emeraldschemer/mettatetris

metal crusher and another medium are my two favorites  8-)

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on December 30, 2015, 06:41:49 pm

Quote from: Christo on December 30, 2015, 04:44:31 pm

https://soundcloud.com/emeraldschemer/mettatetris

Mid part is gay.

Game just closed itself while laughing at me. Don't spoil anything, but I'm pretty sure this isn't the end.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on December 30, 2015, 06:44:45 pm

Reopen it

=)

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Ikarus on December 30, 2015, 08:14:49 pm

this game doesn´t stop at its ingame borders like other games do, thats what made me go all "WTF" at the beginning, how far are you atm?

btw don´t forget the awesome metal covers (check out 2:14 <3)

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on December 30, 2015, 08:25:59 pm

Quote from: Ikarus on December 30, 2015, 08:14:49 pm

how far are you atm?

He just had

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flowey

close his game, it's pretty obvious.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on December 30, 2015, 08:28:02 pm

THIS IS A REAL SPOILER DON'T CLICK UNLESS YOU ARE IKARUS

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I TOLD YOU SO

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Killed flowee, he said I had it in me then the game basically froze. I quit and re-opened it and that got me to the last save point. I reset and spared Toriel this time. Didn't see flowee at all.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on December 30, 2015, 08:34:04 pm

spoilers

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so who did you kill and who did you spare on your first run? the game easily baits you into killing toriel at first, it made many think that you must weaken her to prove yourself.. then a 300 crit happens and she dies.

btw if you reload after killing goat mom and spare her, this happens

this fucking game got me with this the first time, I wanted to make things right and got called out for it. genius
there is also a variation of this dialog if you kill the random monster encounters but not toriel, flowey says that just because they are not 'bosses', they are someone else's toriel, and calls you a brat.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on December 30, 2015, 09:25:16 pm

If there are as many combinations of stuff that can happen or not happen as what I think there are, this game has way more endings than The Stanley Parable.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on December 30, 2015, 09:34:49 pm

If we count every possible combination, every time you see dialog never seen before.. then yes. WAY more than The Stanley Parable.

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btw what you just experienced was a neutral run. try beating the game without killing anything and making friends, it gets even better.
this is no spoiling (for you), if you were to spare the final boss on your first run it would've told you the exact same thing, how to get your best ending.
oh also, fishes love water, so please give them some.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Ikarus on December 30, 2015, 09:44:58 pm

Quote from: Christo on December 30, 2015, 08:34:04 pm

spoilers

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so who did you kill and who did you spare on your first run? the game easily baits you into killing toriel at first, it made many think that you must weaken her to prove yourself.. then a 300 crit happens and she dies.

btw if you reload after killing goat mom and spare her, this happens

this fucking game got me with this the first time, I wanted to make things right and got called out for it. genius
there is also a variation of this dialog if you kill the random monster encounters but not toriel, flowey says that just because they are not 'bosses', they are someone else's toriel, and calls you a brat.

this is exactly what happened to me when I played it for the first time (although I didn´t immediately reset the game. I kept on playing for some hours until I couldn´t live with it anymore). And when flowey suddenly reminded me, it hit me like a truck

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on December 30, 2015, 09:47:22 pm

I mean different endings, not different playthroughs mind you. There are a lot of "choices" that most likely don't affect the "ending".

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ACTUAL SPOILER

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Like most people I killed Toriel first time around, but also Undyne. This game doesn't do a good job at giving you hints on the consequences of one action or the other, although that is also clearly intentional. I spared Mettaton so I get an ending where Mettaton rules over everything. Not very satisfying, but the music is fabulous.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on December 30, 2015, 09:49:40 pm

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There are 3 completely different endings. 
like, seriously. the narrative changes while playing these along with everything else. 
You've only seen one of them (neutral), which has the most variations depending on who you've killed or not killed.
Neutral is rather meh, the other 2 does this game justice.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on December 30, 2015, 09:53:15 pm

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What they say in the neutral ending is different depending on who is spared and who dies, that's what I meant.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on December 30, 2015, 09:55:25 pm

Oh I see.

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Well have fun, try being a pacifist this time :) it's worth it.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 02, 2016, 01:34:59 am

And... I realized this is just the tip of the iceberg. This game is meeting all my standards.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Ikarus on January 02, 2016, 09:27:29 am

Quote from: Kafein on January 02, 2016, 01:34:59 am

This game is meeting all my standards.

you´re doin it right man, you´re doin it right

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Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on January 02, 2016, 09:44:22 am

Quote from: Kafein on January 02, 2016, 01:34:59 am

And... I realized this is just the tip of the iceberg. This game is meeting all my standards.

did you finish your second run?  8-)

seriously though, this game is the finest example of one person putting his SOUL (punintended) into a game, seriously it shows. the attention to detail is massive, and it shows that toby is a music producer too, pretty much every song has a leitmotif that you can notice so they are all related

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 02, 2016, 12:11:52 pm

Quote from: Christo on January 02, 2016, 09:44:22 am

did you finish your second run?  8-)

Not yet, but I stumbled across spoilers while trying to get a specific ending.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on January 02, 2016, 07:04:00 pm

Sigh.. 
You should have asked if you got stuck or something. What was it?

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 03, 2016, 12:30:34 am

I didn't get stuck, I just didn't want to try and get one ending without knowing the conditions. As it turns out, I was right to check because it's kind of complicated.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on January 03, 2016, 01:03:12 am

Ah doesn't really matter. I entirely spoiled one of the endings for myself before I even knew what this game is.

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the genocide one

Shit happens.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 03, 2016, 02:18:36 am

Just started the game, about one hour in so far and its pretty great. The humour is top tier, the combat is cool.. Im doing a pacifist run, but i hopefully my game isnt fucked when i reloaded the game after accidentally killing a thing. The flower knew what i had done, even after loading the save.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on January 03, 2016, 04:01:10 am

No the game is not fucked if you kill a few things and then reset. 
That is only there to mock you, it has no lasting effects...

you need to try really hard to achieve something like what you're afraid of. REALLY hard.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: SixThumbs on January 03, 2016, 01:44:55 pm

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I was going to attempt the genocide run after I had gotten the Undyne ending and then the True Pacifist ending. But, I had put it on "hard" mode and the game ends right before leaving the ruins so I've not tried it again yet.

I'm glad to have missed the fanbase and known absolutely nothing going into this game, I just rolled with killing Toriel (even though I felt really bad) and a few of the monsters. I preferred the neutral ending, it seems a bit more 'natural' for how the story might 'realistically' go rather than the super-mega-happy ending. The true lab and especially Asriel/Flowey was taking the japanese anime route to the extreme, although I did enjoy the atmosphere of the lab.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on January 03, 2016, 07:17:18 pm

anime is real

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 03, 2016, 11:21:55 pm

Beat the game now, pacifist run = oh dem feels.

The game lived up to all its praise with ease.

Now to deal with the incoming post-vidya-depression.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on January 03, 2016, 11:29:24 pm

now do genocide   :twisted:

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 04, 2016, 03:34:17 am

Quote from: Christo on January 03, 2016, 11:29:24 pm

now do genocide   :twisted:

Ill probably wait a bit before another playthrough. Instead ill just enjoy the OST, its nostalgic already! Pretty stronk OST.


Actually, i might start one on second thought.

And i just realised what the game reminds me of, it struck me as i had a vision just now. It has a very Moomin feeling to it. Allthough moomin is a bit more innocent, the character designs are sort of similar, and the music also carries the same feel. I love moomin.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on January 04, 2016, 08:00:21 am

Quote from: Gravoth_iii on January 04, 2016, 03:34:17 am

It has a very Moomin feeling to it.

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Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Ikarus on January 04, 2016, 11:27:19 am

Quote from: Gravoth_iii on January 04, 2016, 03:34:17 am

And i just realised what the game reminds me of, it struck me as i had a vision just now. It has a very Moomin feeling to it. Allthough moomin is a bit more innocent, the character designs are sort of similar, and the music also carries the same feel. I love moomin.

Now that you say it, it really does have some Moomin vibes. Damn, loved that show

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Snufkin was sort of the Gandalf of my childhood, cool guy  8-)
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Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 04, 2016, 12:29:07 pm

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Quote from: Ikarus on January 04, 2016, 11:27:19 am

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Now that you say it, it really does have some Moomin vibes. Damn, loved that show

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Snufkin was sort of the Gandalf of my childhood, cool guy  8-)
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Snufkin is the coolest character ever.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 05, 2016, 09:00:10 pm

The Huniepop reference killed me.

What this game reminds me of is Morrowind because of the actual topic.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 12, 2016, 11:53:07 pm

Can't go through fire exits because you're not made out of fire.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: SixThumbs on January 13, 2016, 12:24:52 am

Other games since, and a long while before, this one have only been just another snow poff.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 13, 2016, 12:29:10 am

Quote from: SixThumbs on January 13, 2016, 12:24:52 am

Other games since, and a long while before, this one have only been just another snow poff.

Why do, you use commas in such, weird places?

Still a snow poff though.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: SixThumbs on January 13, 2016, 12:43:58 am

More commas means better grammar right?

I guess I use them whenever there's a pause in my head for what I'm trying to say, I don't think that last post used them incorrectly. Maybe unnecessary in that case though.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 14, 2016, 07:50:11 pm

Listening to the soundtrack is not gucci, but hard to resist.. FeelsBadMan

edit: Shiiiiiiiet i just finished the game and realised genocide run means obliterating the entire population of monsters, not just major encounters. Well, starting over now i guess.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on January 14, 2016, 10:27:53 pm

Can't spell "Determination" without 'TERMINATION'
 :lol:

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Ikarus on January 15, 2016, 12:59:01 am

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Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on January 15, 2016, 01:47:29 am

"a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a a-a-a-a
a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a
a-a-a"

- Toriel

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 15, 2016, 03:32:41 am

Any of you beaten genocide yet?

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Undyne was a bit of a struggle, but now im on sans. Oh boy, sans is no joke.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on January 15, 2016, 10:40:22 am

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tried 10 times but the spinning laser attack always killed me. like 6 out of 10 attempts I died on the very last part.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Golem on January 15, 2016, 01:38:23 pm

I don't like it, it's too much like dark souls. I really liked the intro boss, though. It disapointed me that the game didn't continue in the same style. Bonfires are too far apart in this game, imo.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 15, 2016, 06:59:01 pm

Quote from: Golem on January 15, 2016, 01:38:23 pm

I don't like it, it's too much like dark souls. I really liked the intro boss, though. It disapointed me that the game didn't continue in the same style. Bonfires are too far apart in this game, imo.

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Stealth homage to Alan Rickman. Fuck this week in particular.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 15, 2016, 07:58:29 pm

FINALLY!

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around 4-5 hours in i finally beat sans, im very sloppy and got super close once with the last move but failed like 1 second before finish. Also the second move with small bone blue bone combo hit me 100%, i just couldnt deal with it.

The ending seems fancy though, i might have to do a Soulless pacifist run now, for another unique ending.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 15, 2016, 08:38:12 pm

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To me the Soulless Pacifist ending is the definitive one. It's how the game is supposed to end.

By the way I do *not* advise anyone to try and explain what this game is about to someone else. Unless you want to sound like a crazy person.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Banok on January 15, 2016, 09:29:06 pm

I played it up until the last area. I kinda enjoyed it, but I just dont understand its popularity.

I feel like basically anyone could have made this game, and a professional probably could have done it in a week. the dude used game maker studio, and got 50k from a kickstarter to do it. The humour can be funny but its a long way from ingenious, its mostly pretty obvious trope parodies - fun but not the second coming of almightly christ.

And yet it's sold half a mill copies so dude is a multi-millionaire now which just baffles me. I guess I should be inspired but I'm mostly just bare jelly bruv.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Ikarus on January 16, 2016, 01:11:38 am

Quote from: Banok on January 15, 2016, 09:29:06 pm

I played it up until the last area. I kinda enjoyed it, but I just dont understand its popularity.

I feel like basically anyone could have made this game, and a professional probably could have done it in a week. the dude used game maker studio, and got 50k from a kickstarter to do it. The humour can be funny but its a long way from ingenious, its mostly pretty obvious trope parodies - fun but not the second coming of almightly christ.

And yet it's sold half a mill copies so dude is a multi-millionaire now which just baffles me. I guess I should be inspired but I'm mostly just bare jelly bruv.

well, it´s probably a matter of taste

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 16, 2016, 02:27:24 am

I don't really care how much effort was involved. This guy did what other people didn't do. And obviously some people wanted it.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on January 16, 2016, 09:33:46 pm

so I bumped into a pc gamer article, when suddenly..

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that has to be the best argument i have ever seen

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 16, 2016, 10:18:10 pm

Quote from: Christo on January 16, 2016, 09:33:46 pm

so I bumped into a pc gamer article, when suddenly..

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that has to be the best argument i have ever seen

Im surprised how poor every arguement against undertale has been. I mean if you hate the fandom then ok, but if you hate the game then you may want to have some legit arguements if you are going to post it. Overrated isnt really one either, but very common still.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Ikarus on January 17, 2016, 10:45:37 am

Quote from: Christo on January 16, 2016, 09:33:46 pm

that has to be the best argument i have ever seen

like those guys who claim that every old game is bad because it has bad graphics
and FIFA´s the best game ever, that´s why they´re buying it every year again

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Christo on January 17, 2016, 02:11:56 pm

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Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 17, 2016, 05:05:08 pm

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Behold the fusion of the most insufferable of fandoms:

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Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 17, 2016, 10:05:21 pm

I guess the references to the game is what gets people hatin on the fandom. Personally i love references to everything i can relate to, especially in the most bizarre places where they shouldnt actually belong.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 18, 2016, 01:27:44 am

Did you get the reference though?

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 21, 2016, 02:37:58 am

So the soundtrack uses a lot of sped up/ slowed down versions of the same songs, which is pretty cool, but this one was really a surprise to me

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And this one is also neat.

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I like the concept of using the same base with different speeds and such, makes it sort of grow as you progress. Tower of heaven did this too, a small flash game that is really simple and cool.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 21, 2016, 03:12:52 am

*zip*
Double post as the site went down

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 21, 2016, 01:23:26 pm

You can align anything over anything if you play with speeding up/slowing down the tracks. I don't think the dog and temmie theme are actually supposed to mesh in the combat tracks.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 21, 2016, 02:26:07 pm

Quote from: Kafein on January 21, 2016, 01:23:26 pm

You can align anything over anything if you play with speeding up/slowing down the tracks. I don't think the dog and temmie theme are actually supposed to mesh in the combat tracks.

But they have the same melody, i mean they align perfectly. Theyre definitely based off eachother.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 21, 2016, 03:14:17 pm

Quote from: Gravoth_iii on January 21, 2016, 02:26:07 pm

But they have the same melody, i mean they align perfectly. Theyre definitely based off eachother.

Dog and Temmie themes are obviously related. The generic combat tracks (anticipation, enemy approaching and so on) are also related to one another. But those two groups don't share any melody with one another. A less obvious example, "Home" is "Undertale" slowed down. That sort of thing goes on all over the place in the OST. I'm sure "You Idiot" is some massively fucked up version of

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his theme

or something similar.

And just for good measure, there's the Crypt of the Necrodancer shopkeeper singing in the FFVI-inspired opera piece.

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Post by: Ikarus on January 21, 2016, 03:45:30 pm

Quote from: Gravoth_iii on January 21, 2016, 02:37:58 am

So the soundtrack uses a lot of sped up/ slowed down versions of the same songs

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Holy shit I never realized that  :shock:

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 21, 2016, 06:19:43 pm

Quote from: Kafein on January 21, 2016, 03:14:17 pm

And just for good measure, there's the Crypt of the Necrodancer shopkeeper singing in the FFVI-inspired opera piece.

Noticed that, had a giggle. But i dont know if that is something he created for crypt of the necrodancer, or if it already existed in whatever program he used to make the music.

Most of the music is also related to undynes theme Spear of justice..

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Post by: Christo on January 21, 2016, 08:33:06 pm

Here you go guys, have a leitmotif chart.

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prepare to be blown away

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 21, 2016, 10:46:32 pm

Well, that's how you spot a learned composer.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 21, 2016, 11:18:20 pm

Quote from: Kafein on January 21, 2016, 10:46:32 pm

Well, that's how you spot a learned composer.

I dont think he actually is, he atleast doesnt read notes and stuff, and did it by ear. Very impressive to say the least.

I gotta say, with all the endings, and the game being as fun as it is, its so replayable. Im on my fourth run now, and i still read dialogue again and follow everything, but try some different options. Wat a game.

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Moved too quickly during this part first time around, but now i stayed for a bit and got this. Neat, i wonder if this also is a slowed down song, cant seem to find info on it.

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Post by: Ikarus on January 22, 2016, 01:06:44 pm

Quote from: Gravoth_iii on January 21, 2016, 11:18:20 pm

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Moved too quickly during this part first time around, but now i stayed for a bit and got this. Neat, i wonder if this also is a slowed down song, cant seem to find info on it.

found this in my first run  8-)

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Kafein on January 22, 2016, 08:19:10 pm

Me too, I think it might be a Stanley Parable reference, but that may be just me stretching it.

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Goddammit Undyne the Undying is infuriating

Sans was right, I'm having a bad time

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Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 23, 2016, 02:49:58 am

I wonder if we'll ever get a undertale 2, im pretty sure Toby doesnt want to ruin it (he barely wanted to sell merchandise), but i think he mentioned something about an upcoming new game. Also the myster about Gaster is still loose, and just a bunch of speculations. (maybe finished through patches though)

All my youtube reccommendations are undertale related stuff, im watching all theses story clarifiers, random facts and speculation theories. 2deep. If theres something i like in videogames, its when a story has a loose end with speculations, or a story that has to be dug out. I never figure them out fully myself, but its super interesting when listening to youtubers reveal them.

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Post by: Christo on January 23, 2016, 03:22:49 am

I hope we won't get an 'undertale 2', but something entirely different, a spiritual successor of the spiritual successor of earthbound.

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Post by: Polobow on January 23, 2016, 07:45:43 pm

Quote from: Gravoth_iii on January 23, 2016, 02:49:58 am

If theres something i like in videogames, its when a story has a loose end with speculations, or a story that has to be dug out. I never figure them out fully myself, but its super interesting when listening to youtubers reveal them.

If you haven't done so already, play the Souls series. Pretty much got what you just said.

Title: Re: Actually it's a snowdecahedron (Undertale)
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 23, 2016, 09:53:15 pm

Quote from: Polobow on January 23, 2016, 07:45:43 pm

If you haven't done so already, play the Souls series. Pretty much got what you just said.

I feel insulted

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Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 02, 2016, 02:03:30 am

1 hour review, but nails it completely, incredibly well done and indepth. Allthough my opinion may be a bit higher since i did get emotionally invested quite a bit.

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Post by: Kafein on March 02, 2016, 07:20:43 pm

Quote from: Gravoth_iii on March 02, 2016, 02:03:30 am

1 hour review, but nails it completely, incredibly well done and indepth. Allthough my opinion may be a bit higher since i did get emotionally invested quite a bit.

I wouldn't know, the most "emotionally invested" I got in a video game ever is watching the intro to Gran Turismo 5 for the first time. Rachmaninoff is among the five persons who can get tears out of me that way.

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(sorry I haven't been able to find a video where Chemical Bromance is cut)

That aside, yes, Undertale has been able to create characters with depth and a story that however unrealistic, is truly believable. Decisions rarely felt like they had as much impact.