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Title: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Kafein on December 14, 2015, 08:26:37 pm
Discuss.

Also, please unmute Oberyn.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: WarLord on December 14, 2015, 08:41:51 pm
They are self-loathing dumb cunts obviously!

/thread  :twisted:
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Algarn on December 14, 2015, 09:48:44 pm
I blame self-loathing leftling communist cucklords for Paris attacks. Also give guns to everyone to defend our beloved motherland without the help of the corrupted police forces who are controlled by the zionist multinational corporations. I also blame Illuminati.

/thread
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Kafein on December 14, 2015, 10:40:15 pm
I ask for one Oberyn and

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Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Leshma on December 14, 2015, 11:27:42 pm
My life-partner Oberyn should have been unmuted at the same time as me.

You first need to prove you're white.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Rhekimos on December 15, 2015, 09:31:23 am
I came in expecting 4chan level political commentary and I was not disappointed.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Christo on December 15, 2015, 12:21:16 pm
We're all white inside, the proof is in the cum

I came
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Rhekimos on December 15, 2015, 01:41:24 pm

Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 15, 2015, 08:42:47 pm
RIP france, enjoy sharia law as western europes second islamic nation. ofcourse, if pepe is any indication, they'll welcome it with open arms.

any frog with brains would be stocking up, arming up, bagging up, and hitching the first ride out of the country
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Xant on December 15, 2015, 10:10:11 pm
I don't understand why you're defending Muslims, Heskey, Muslims hate black guys.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Utrakil on December 15, 2015, 10:15:58 pm
I don't understand why you're defending Muslims, Heskey, Muslims hate black guys.
You are just saying that a lot of black people hate themselves??!! :shock: :rolleyes:
This comment just disqualified you from any further discussion about muslems if you don't even know that islam is one major religion in black afrika.
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Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Kafein on December 15, 2015, 10:19:21 pm
There are major differences between Islam practiced in Sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle-East.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Utrakil on December 15, 2015, 10:22:09 pm
So then better start to differenciate before burping out stupid comments.
(the stupid comments are pointing more towards cant than you Kafein.)
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Xant on December 15, 2015, 11:23:06 pm
You are just saying that a lot of black people hate themselves??!! :shock: :rolleyes:
This comment just disqualified you from any further discussion about muslems if you don't even know that islam is one major religion in black afrika.
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Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Utrakil on December 16, 2015, 04:53:31 pm
Isn't it a known fact by now that labeling your stupidity as bait/trolling just makes you look even dummer sillier?

Edit: thanks for the hint Antiblitz
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: AntiBlitz on December 16, 2015, 05:23:50 pm
makes you look even dummer?
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Xant on December 16, 2015, 06:25:12 pm
Isn't it a known fact by now that labeling your stupidity as bait/trolling just makes you look even dummer sillier?

Edit: thanks for the hint Antiblitz
It's a known fact that only someone with 60 IQ wouldn't recognize that as an obvious bait. I knew Heskey wouldn't fall for it, but I'm glad to see I caught one of the retards here. Do you suffer from FAS, Utrakil?
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Utrakil on December 16, 2015, 06:45:41 pm
Sorry I don't pay as much attention to you as heskey does. this unfortunately doesn't give me enough understanding of you to see all the different nuances of nonsense you post. Maybe one day I will be able to tell apart what bullshit you really believe and what other bullshit you just fart out as bait.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Kafein on December 16, 2015, 06:48:29 pm
Genuine answer? If you havent guessed already I dont need to 'defend' Islam in my country. I didnt need to 'defend' any Irish people in the 90s or early 2000s either. We didnt bomb Cork in retaliation and we didnt talk about deporting all the Irish and we sure as hell didnt try and turn this into 'us' and 'them'.

Terrorism is scary cos you dont know exactly who is going to be a terrorist. But, guess what, we never started assuming all Irish people were terrorists. And, guess what, both the IRA and the PIRA declared ceasefires and ended their struggles over time. How do you win an ideological war? By standing your ground and being immovable.

Maybe a country that hasnt experienced much terrorism finds ISIS scary, maybe a country that hasnt witnessed exactly how much they can endure without suddenly being 'destroyed' by terrorism thinks that Islam poses a genuine physical threat to their country.

So far i rank the frequency and organisational skills of Islamist attacks and I am not impressed. No western country is about to die from it lol (no-matter how much you may want to believe that this is the ultimate ideological struggle of your age), what do you think a country is?

The only way terrorism will have any meaningful impact on any western nation, is if we allow them to dictate the terms and infect us with... Terror. Change the way your country behaves, change your border policy, change your attitude towards foreigners, limit individual freedoms. Those are meaningful and lasting changes, but those are changes made from within a country by it's people and it's leaders, never by the terrorists themselves (but it sure is what a terrorist wants, cos it's the only the only way they can make an impact on the world and they know it).

Self-hating leftist cucks no-doubt.

Why aren't you always based like this Heskey?
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Angantyr on December 16, 2015, 07:16:05 pm
For your 2016 forum persona, could you also start using an Irish written accent? Would be pretty great.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Xant on December 16, 2015, 07:35:48 pm
Sorry I don't pay as much attention to you as heskey does. this unfortunately doesn't give me enough understanding of you to see all the different nuances of nonsense you post. Maybe one day I will be able to tell apart what bullshit you really believe and what other bullshit you just fart out as bait.
Because it's an obvious joke, it's like saying Muslims don't like Arabs. Muslim isn't a race. Just so you know.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Butan on December 16, 2015, 08:28:40 pm
Because it's an obvious joke, it's like saying Muslims don't like Arabs. Muslim isn't a race. Just so you know.

Nice comeback, but all cRPG forum dwellers know you simply tried to pursue Oberyn attempt at determining what is Heskey skin color, because we all know that since Heskey doesnt seem to hate muslims, he must be black, thus the irony of your post. Try to make it less obvious next time though, and man up a bit. Retard.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Xant on December 16, 2015, 08:35:51 pm
Nice comeback, but all cRPG forum dwellers know you simply tried to pursue Oberyn attempt at determining what is Heskey skin color, because we all know that since Heskey doesnt seem to hate muslims, he must be black, thus the irony of your post. Try to make it less obvious next time though, and man up a bit. Retard.
Yawn, so obvious. You're really bad at trying to provoke me, Butan. Next time try subtler personality changes, only Leshman can get away with full schizophrenia.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Leshma on December 17, 2015, 01:30:51 am
For your 2016 forum persona, could you also start using an Irish written accent? Would be pretty great.

Gaeilge, le do thoil.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Oberyn on December 17, 2015, 11:56:37 am
The only way terrorism will have any meaningful impact on any western nation, is if we allow them to dictate the terms and infect us with... Terror. Change the way your country behaves, change your border policy, change your attitude towards foreigners, limit individual freedoms. Those are meaningful and lasting changes, but those are changes made from within a country by it's people and it's leaders, never by the terrorists themselves (but it sure is what a terrorist wants, cos it's the only the only way they can make an impact on the world and they know it)

First of all, let me just say I thought the mute towards you was completely unfair. I insulted merily and with zero fucks given on many, many posts, but the first time you do it in response we both get muted? cRPG admins obviously racists.

Now, you're just demonstrating the usual, occidentals being proud of the only thing they are still allowed to be proud of, "attitude" to foreigners and border policy. As if these things were defining characteristics of our civilization and not brand new concepts introduced during the 60's/70's. Here is Charles de Gaule in 1959 talking about France, and keep in mind these concepts were universally accepted as true at the time, this was the "attitude" to foreigners and border policy that had existed for decades. And let's not even talk about what the norm was for hundreds of years before that, and still is and every single country that isn't western. Strangely enough western civilizations persisted for hundreds of years without "tolerance" of foreigners and open borders, in fact the case could be made that was the only reason they did, as, again, literally any civilization that isn't in the grip of these modern delusions of moral superiority.

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C’est très bien qu’il y ait des Français jaunes, des Français noirs, des Français bruns. Ils montrent que la France est ouverte à toutes les races et qu’elle a une vocation universelle. Mais à condition qu’ils restent une petite minorité. Sinon, la France ne serait plus la France. Nous sommes quand même avant tout un peuple européen de race blanche, de culture grecque et latine et de religion chrétienne. Qu'on ne se raconte pas d'histoires ! Les musulmans, vous êtes allés les voir ? Vous les avez regardés avec leurs turbans et leur djellabas ? Vous voyez bien que ce ne sont pas des Français ! Ceux qui prônent l'intégration ont une cervelle de colibri, même s'ils sont très savants. Essayez d'intégrer de l'huile et du vinaigre. Agitez la bouteille. Au bout d'un moment, ils se sépareront de nouveau. Les Arabes sont des Arabes, les Français sont des Français. Vous croyez que le corps français peut absorber dix millions de musulmans, qui demain seront vingt millions et après-demain quarante ? Si nous faisions l'intégration, si tous les Arabes et Berbères d'Algérie étaient considérés comme Français, comment les empêcherait-on de venir s'installer en métropole, alors que le niveau de vie y est tellement plus élevé ? Mon village ne s'appellerait plus Colombey-les-Deux-Églises, mais Colombey-les-Deux-Mosquées !

Today he would be lambasted as a fascist racist, betraying all the supposed values of our beautiful tolerant western civilizations, when 50 years ago this was a completely normal and expected attitude.
Contrast that to today. There's a rap song by an algerian muslim ("french", since he was born and lived his entire life here, 3rd generation or so) calling for violence against ethnic french, shitting on the country and the people and everything they are and represent, and it was taken to court as incitement to hatred, as would be any song that would do the same to arabs, or blacks, or asians, or any "recognized" ethnicity.  It was thrown out as the very justice system has ruled that ethnic french people literally do not exist before the law. 
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2015/03/20/01016-20150320ARTFIG00365-pour-la-justice-le-concept-de-francais-de-souche-n-existe-pas.php

Terrorism from muslim fanatics (and more importantly our response to it) is merely a symptom of the decaying of western civilization. The idea that the terrorists ultimately want us to become less tolerant and accepting of foreigners, as if this was somehow a deadly attack against the very existence of western civilization, as if this would benefit them somehow, as if their primary motivation wasn't just to kill as many kuffar as possible in revenge for the "crusades" we've supposedly undertaken against glorious islam, is a retarded red herrings thrown about by, yes, useless self-loathing cucks such as yourself. You really think muslims in general, even the most extreme, anti-western daesh supporters, aren't completely enchanted with the way western nations are so tolerant of their demographic invasion? You think they're somehow angry at this, and wish it to dissapear? They see it as pure weakness, and take advantage of it time and time again.

I've said this before and I'll say it again, demographics is reality, everything else, all the superficial, idealogical claptrap about these values that supposedly define our civilizations despited being around for no more than a few decades, is just a fart in the wind. Anyone who is a native of Britain, a native of France, a native of any of the nations that are undergoing ideological attacks to the point that even the idea of them being a "nation" in the first place is being ridiculed, the very conceptof them being a "people" is being destroyed and retroactively erased from history, SHOULD be worried and angry and afraid. Anyone who looks at the statistics, the changing demographics of these "nations" in name only, the attitude of the foreigners (particularly muslims) who feel completely entitled to pour in by the hundreds of thousands, by the millions, as if the land was theirs by birthright, in supposed payment for colonialism or imperialism or because of the universalist claims of islam or because the self-loathing cucks orgasm at the thought of their own people finally being outnumbered in their own lands and encourage this attitude among their own and among the foreigners at every chance they get, anyone who has any sense of history and can look at the big picture and the obvious progression of where this is leading, SHOULD be worried and angry and afraid. Having people like you tell me with a straight face that nothing should be changed, that's exactly what the terrorists want, frankly makes me laugh uproariously. Then again, you aren't native, are you? So what the fuck would you know about it. Of course this new, crypto-marxist, identity politics conception of the true "values" of western civilizations (the ones deliberately designed to destroy it, ironically enough) is the one you addopt, anything else would just be fascist neo-YMCA.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Admerius on December 17, 2015, 05:05:45 pm
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Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Leshma on December 17, 2015, 05:39:38 pm
Though it did make me wonder what the threshold is.

You know those times when you're having oral exam at university. Sometimes you're lucky and despite not having a clue about subject you catch professor in a good mood and he let you pass. But there are times when you work your ass off and perform perfectly at oral exam but teach comes grumpy at work, and you fail. There's no threshold, it's all about people's emotional states (tm by xant).
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Kafein on December 17, 2015, 07:00:23 pm
I've said this before and I'll say it again, demographics is reality, everything else, all the superficial, idealogical claptrap about these values that supposedly define our civilizations despited being around for no more than a few decades, is just a fart in the wind. Anyone who is a native of Britain, a native of France, a native of any of the nations that are undergoing ideological attacks to the point that even the idea of them being a "nation" in the first place is being ridiculed, the very conceptof them being a "people" is being destroyed and retroactively erased from history, SHOULD be worried and angry and afraid. Anyone who looks at the statistics, the changing demographics of these "nations" in name only, the attitude of the foreigners (particularly muslims) who feel completely entitled to pour in by the hundreds of thousands, by the millions, as if the land was theirs by birthright, in supposed payment for colonialism or imperialism or because of the universalist claims of islam or because the self-loathing cucks orgasm at the thought of their own people finally being outnumbered in their own lands and encourage this attitude among their own and among the foreigners at every chance they get, anyone who has any sense of history and can look at the big picture and the obvious progression of where this is leading, SHOULD be worried and angry and afraid. Having people like you tell me with a straight face that nothing should be changed, that's exactly what the terrorists want, frankly makes me laugh uproariously. Then again, you aren't native, are you? So what the fuck would you know about it. Of course this new, crypto-marxist, identity politics conception of the true "values" of western civilizations (the ones deliberately designed to destroy it, ironically enough) is the one you addopt, anything else would just be fascist neo-YMCA.

Oberyn, at the turn of the Renaissance couldn't the exact same argument be used to defend feodalism from the attacks of the new nationalist ideology? Nations are also merely a recent construction, simply on a larger timeframe. What you seem to be angry about is the selective (and indeed discriminatory) application of an ideology, not the ideology itself. You are criticizing a pants-on-head retarded interpretation of western values as if it was the real thing that more than three people believe in. Tumblr isn't the entire world.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Oberyn on December 17, 2015, 08:08:11 pm
Oberyn, at the turn of the Renaissance couldn't the exact same argument be used to defend feodalism from the attacks of the new nationalist ideology? Nations are also merely a recent construction, simply on a larger timeframe. What you seem to be angry about is the selective (and indeed discriminatory) application of an ideology, not the ideology itself. You are criticizing a pants-on-head retarded interpretation of western values as if it was the real thing that more than three people believe in. Tumblr isn't the entire world.

Showed you an article laying out how sociologists (Tumblr ground zero, I've said this to you over and over and over, and it seems to fly over your head everytime, Tumblr is merely a symptom of a much more entrenched and powerful sector of academia) influenced actual law with their retarded interpretations, literally erasing the existence of ethnic french people, and you still ignore it and pretend it has no influence on policy, on law, on media, on government, on the general zeitgeist of this generation, when it defines and determines it again and again and again. Is it wilfull ignorance? Arrogant complacency, completely incapable of recognizing the effects this retarded interpretation (I'd say it has supplanted the "old" interpretation a while ago, and is the new norm) of this ideology has on reality? I don't know. Keep pretending it's just a couple of Tumblr morons with no power whatsoever and not elites placed at the highest levels of influence if it makes you feel better.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Angantyr on December 17, 2015, 08:23:55 pm

Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Kafein on December 17, 2015, 09:52:14 pm
Showed you an article laying out how sociologists (Tumblr ground zero, I've said this to you over and over and over, and it seems to fly over your head everytime, Tumblr is merely a symptom of a much more entrenched and powerful sector of academia) influenced actual law with their retarded interpretations, literally erasing the existence of ethnic french people, and you still ignore it and pretend it has no influence on policy, on law, on media, on government, on the general zeitgeist of this generation, when it defines and determines it again and again and again. Is it wilfull ignorance? Arrogant complacency, completely incapable of recognizing the effects this retarded interpretation (I'd say it has supplanted the "old" interpretation a while ago, and is the new norm) of this ideology has on reality? I don't know. Keep pretending it's just a couple of Tumblr morons with no power whatsoever and not elites placed at the highest levels of influence if it makes you feel better.

Tell me, what kind of power do sociologists hold? Beside poisoning the mind of their own students? I do not deny that this goes rampant in parts of academia nobody cares about. If anything it's less noteworthy than on Tumblr (in Europe anyway). What do you mean by erasing the existence of ethnic French people in law? Back in the 50s you'd have to prove French descent to the 5th generation before buying land or something? I don't think so. And if anything, this generation is more level-headed on those issues than people who were 20 in 1968.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Angantyr on December 17, 2015, 10:08:48 pm
It's integral to much of current European political thought, also among top officials.

Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Oberyn on December 17, 2015, 10:32:00 pm
So is your assertion that "weak pseudo-sciences are effectively powerless outside of universities and the brainwashing of a few losers who never end up in positions of power"? You realize political sciences are part of this mess, yes? What about journalism oriented degrees? I guess the answer to my question is "wilfull ignorance". Considering the number of times you've dismissed the flood of ideological propaganda from a perspective you yourself deem retarded and yet is present and influential in practically every facet of western societies and governments as nothing more than a few isolated, powerless tumblrites, not sure why I even asked the question.
And I quite clearly showed the difference between what was considered a common description and conception of the french ethnicity as explicitly stated by Charle de Gaulle, you might have heard of him maybe, you think he pulled it out of his ass?, and that of today, which is the complete refusal on a legal level to even accept that there is such a thing as a french ethnicity at all. Did you read the article? Did you understand it? How much more cognitive dissonance between reality and whatever passes for thought in your head can you take before you realize something is amiss?   
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Leshma on December 17, 2015, 10:53:03 pm
Does not compute

It's the old communist way of studying, before group effort craze started. Before presentations in front of whole class, group assignments, workshops, all that jazz that serves a purpose to shape students into efficient team members. Old ways were you, your trusty old books, classes you could skip (which will make it harder to understand the subject), you were left to study in your own way. Then one day you sit across professors desk, pull out three questions and make magic happen.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Molly on December 17, 2015, 11:05:54 pm
Well, with Frontex soon being able to ignore national sovereignty and Turkey bribed into ignoring basic human rights, refugee problem soon to be solved. Right?

/thread
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Oberyn on December 17, 2015, 11:56:04 pm
http://www.spj.org/divguidelines.asp

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Guidelines for Countering Racial, Ethnic and Religious Profiling

On Oct. 6, 2001 at its National Convention in Seattle, the Society of Professional Journalists passed a resolution urging members and fellow journalists to take steps against racial profiling in their coverage of the war on terrorism and to reaffirm their commitment to:
— Use language that is informative and not inflammatory;

— Portray Muslims, Arabs and Middle Eastern and South Asian Americans in the richness of their diverse experiences;

— Seek truth through a variety of voices and perspectives that help audiences understand the complexities of the events in Pennsylvania, New York City and Washington, D.C.
Guidelines

Visual images
— Seek out people from a variety of ethnic and religious backgrounds when photographing Americans mourning those lost in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.

— Seek out people from a variety of ethnic and religious backgrounds when photographing rescue and other public service workers and military personnel.

— Do not represent Arab Americans and Muslims as monolithic groups. Avoid conveying the impression that all Arab Americans and Muslims wear traditional clothing.

— Use photos and features to demystify veils, turbans and other cultural articles and customs.
Stories
— Seek out and include Arabs and Arab Americans, Muslims, South Asians and men and women of Middle Eastern descent in all stories about the war, not just those about Arab and Muslim communities or racial profiling.

— Cover the victims of harassment, murder and other hate crimes as thoroughly as you cover the victims of overt terrorist attacks.

— Make an extra effort to include olive-complexioned and darker men and women, Sikhs, Muslims and devout religious people of all types in arts, business, society columns and all other news and feature coverage, not just stories about the crisis.

— Seek out experts on military strategies, public safety, diplomacy, economics and other pertinent topics who run the spectrum of race, class, gender and geography.

— When writing about terrorism, remember to include white supremacist, radical anti-abortionists and other groups with a history of such activity.

— Do not imply that kneeling on the floor praying, listening to Arabic music or reciting from the Quran are peculiar activities.

— When describing Islam, keep in mind there are large populations of Muslims around the world, including in Africa, Asia, Canada, Europe, India and the United States. Distinguish between various Muslim states; do not lump them together as in constructions such as "the fury of the Muslim world."

— Avoid using word combinations such as "Islamic terrorist" or "Muslim extremist" that are misleading because they link whole religions to criminal activity. Be specific: Alternate choices, depending on context, include "Al Qaeda terrorists" or, to describe the broad range of groups involved in Islamic politics, "political Islamists." Do not use religious characterizations as shorthand when geographic, political, socioeconomic or other distinctions might be more accurate.

— Avoid using terms such as "jihad" unless you are certain of their precise meaning and include the context when they are used in quotations. The basic meaning of "jihad" is to exert oneself for the good of Islam and to better oneself.

— Consult the Library of Congress guide for transliteration of Arabic names and Muslim or Arab words to the Roman alphabet. Use spellings preferred by the American Muslim Council, including "Muhammad," "Quran," and "Makkah ," not "Mecca."

— Regularly seek out a variety of perspectives for your opinion pieces. Check your coverage against the five Maynard Institute for Journalism Education fault lines of race and ethnicity, class, geography, gender and generation.

— Ask men and women from within targeted communities to review your coverage and make suggestions.

Incidentally the google translate for that De Gaulle quote, since I'm sure many don't give enough of a fuck for a simple google translate:

"It is very good that there are yellow French, French blacks, browns French. They show that France is open to all races and has a universal vocation. But provided they remain a small minority. Otherwise, France would not be France. We are still primarily a European people Caucasian, Greek and Latin culture and Christian religion. We do not tell stories! Muslims, you went to see them? You watched them with their turbans and djellabas? You see that these are not the French! Those who advocate integration have a hummingbird brains, even if they are very learned. Try to incorporate oil and vinegar. Shake the bottle. After a while, they will separate again. The Arabs are Arabs, the French are French. You believe that the French body can absorb ten million Muslims, who tomorrow will be twenty million and forty after tomorrow? If we did the integration, if all the Arabs and Berbers of Algeria were considered French, how do we prevent it from coming to settle in metropolis, while the standard of living is so much higher? My village will be called more Colombey-les-Deux-Eglises, but Colombey-les-Deux-Mosques!"

Also note that in the original speech he literally says "white race", which is auto-translated to Caucasian by google, lol.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Leshma on December 18, 2015, 02:58:41 am
Think I proffered bitchy Oberyn throwing insults left and right, over this Oberyn the researcher.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Molly on December 18, 2015, 11:33:52 am
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Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Moncho on December 18, 2015, 12:43:21 pm
No, Ukraine was being invaded by Russia in 2015, neither busy with religion nor doing science
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Butan on December 18, 2015, 01:20:08 pm
Incidentally the google translate for that De Gaulle quote, since I'm sure many don't give enough of a fuck for a simple google translate:

"It is very good that there are yellow French, French blacks, browns French. They show that France is open to all races and has a universal vocation. But provided they remain a small minority. Otherwise, France would not be France. We are still primarily a European people Caucasian, Greek and Latin culture and Christian religion. We do not tell stories! Muslims, you went to see them? You watched them with their turbans and djellabas? You see that these are not the French! Those who advocate integration have a hummingbird brains, even if they are very learned. Try to incorporate oil and vinegar. Shake the bottle. After a while, they will separate again. The Arabs are Arabs, the French are French. You believe that the French body can absorb ten million Muslims, who tomorrow will be twenty million and forty after tomorrow? If we did the integration, if all the Arabs and Berbers of Algeria were considered French, how do we prevent it from coming to settle in metropolis, while the standard of living is so much higher? My village will be called more Colombey-les-Deux-Eglises, but Colombey-les-Deux-Mosques!"

Also note that in the original speech he literally says "white race", which is auto-translated to Caucasian by google, lol.


Yep, De Gaulle said stupid, incredibly racist things, your point is?
It was normal back then, but if you still believe and fight for this in 2015, there is no hope for you...
We can all agree that France can not, without great strains, tomorrow incorporate 20 millions "turbaned" muslims (visitors can't see pics , please register or login
), but it will not have to because its simply an illusive xenophobic fear. If we were really "invaded", we would know by the demographics, as you said...

Even if, somehow, the % of muslims in France increased from birth alone, those would be children of France's education, which is the first tool of a government to make it possible to mix vinegar and oil.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Oberyn on December 18, 2015, 02:06:26 pm
No, De Gaulle said completely rational, relevant and intelligent things. You perceive them as stupid and incredibly racist because you are a brainwashed stupid little cuck with no conception of history and completely blinkered into an irrational, self-loathing ideology determined to destroy and erase the past and fighting for a future hostile to everything it stood for and represented. Literally all our great figures in history, our great thinkers, our great philosophers, any french person in fact before the 1960's, are no more than "stupid and incredibly racist" according to your perception. "Dead old white men", said with a sneer, I've run into it again and again. The absolute contempt cunts like you show for any of the values of european civilization pre-1960's is evident. Again, the only values we are still allowed to be proud of are these brand new one conceived entirely in an attempt to destroy everything that came before, as if there was nothing but shame and guilt in our past. It's the clear goal of the traitorous post-modernists whose pathetic, self-destructive values have become the norm in occidental culture, addopted wholeheartedly by people like you. 

"the % of muslims in France increased from birth alone, those would be children of France's education, which is the first tool of a government to make it possible to mix vinegar and oil"

Oh yeah, that's working sooooo well, muslims just love France, love it's culture, love it's history, love it's past, love it's people, our indoctrination methods are 100% effective, change nothing, stay the current course, have aboslute faith in our pathetic attempts at social engineering. And we DO know by the demographics, or rather we would if they weren't deliberately hidden. The idea that that the praised and highest in Europe 2.0+ birthrate is in any way due to native birthrate and not the "french" second and third generation immigrants is laughable. But the very idea of the french being a people is "incredibly stupid and racist", so of course you have no problem with it. There is no such thing as a french ethnicity, so they have just as much claim as being french as anyone else.

http://www.theonion.com/article/report-stating-current-year-still-leading-argument-35288
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Utrakil on December 18, 2015, 02:29:48 pm
Oberyn would you mind to elaborate what "values of european civilization pre-1960's" you are so proud of that are rejected by the "cuck leftists"?
And furthermore I would like to read what are the traits or values that make the French to be French. I find it easier to follow if those thing are clearly named.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Oberyn on December 18, 2015, 02:39:07 pm
A sense of national (as in the dictionary definition of nation, not the amended post-modernist ridiculousness) and ethnic identity, something present and observable in every single cultural group that isn't trying to kill itself. Just look at the rest of the planet. Japan is a pretty good example. They are not betraying and contemptuously shitting all over their past as if they were some sort of New Men, morally superior by far to all the "stupid racists", who actually had a sense of collective identity, that came before them. Pretty much what Charle de Gaulle stated clearly. European white race influenced deeply by greek, roman then christian culture. Something that was blatantly obvious to any scholar or historian before the post-modernists came along and started assaulting the very meaning of meaning.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Oberyn on December 18, 2015, 03:03:56 pm
http://www.svt.se/svts/article5384068.svt/BINARY/Sverigespegling%20p%C3%A5%20SVT%20Nyheter.pdf

-Don't use the word "immigrant"
-Don't describe the appearance of illegals who commit crimes if they're from Africa or the mideast
-Terrorists with swedish passports are to be described as "swedes".
-If anyone claims to have been the victim of discrimination or a hate crime they are to be believed at face value

"Språk är makt. Språk är också politik. Språk signalerar normer"
"Language is power. Language is also politics. Language signals norms"

SVT is the swedish public broadcaster. These are the norms they are obligated to follow. But hey, it's just a couple of retard sociologists stuck in universities and their tumblrite followers, right Kafein? They have sooo little influence out in the real world.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Utrakil on December 18, 2015, 03:19:01 pm
You see the funny thing about national identity is it is subject to change through all history.
Is french identity based on celtic religion? I guess no because they were assimilated by the romans. and their panteon. but is the roman culture the base of your national identity? maybe in some parts. but then the germanic franks invaded and introduced germanic culture into france. the roman panteon was replaced by christianity. then the identity as one of the most powerfull kingdoms was replaced by the pride to be the first democracy...
You see what I want to show is that the national or ethnic identity is fluid and subject to constant change. And these changes are unstoppable no matter how hard anybody might try.
So maybe it might be worth the consideration if your national pride should be based on how well you handle change and how good you can make use of influences and changes instead of building your pride on how desperate you are trying to keep what will eventually be lost anyways.

edit: thanks Paul
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Paul on December 18, 2015, 03:28:15 pm
mission accomplished
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Oberyn on December 18, 2015, 03:47:09 pm
What was the context of these changes, exactly? How did they happen? I know you think the "change" (destruction) of western civilization is inevitable , because you've been brainwashed into it, but how exactly did those various changes happen in the past? What culture, exactly, has ever not fought tooth and nail, and was only "changed" (bloodily conquered) despite itself, not as a voluntary act of retarded sacrifice?
And again, the only thing we can apparently be proud of is the way we submit to our own obliteration, as if this was admirable and brave, and not pathetic and weak. People didn't suddenly place emphasis on ethnic pride, it has been a feature of every single human collective that has ever existed, and continues to exist, and will be a feature of the ones that will persist into the future. You would have to be blind not to see it EVERYWHERE, literally every single human collective that exists today. The only places where these collectives are willingly suiciding and pretending it is a noble act of great moral virtue are in the west.

If you want to compare the history of France pre-1960's with the history of France since then, I can find much, much more to be proud of in the past. What exactly has France accomplished in this period, beside the aforementioned great effort at cultural suicide and repudiation of it's entire past?
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Angantyr on December 18, 2015, 04:03:59 pm
A large part of the success of the European states comes from retaining a balance of homogeneity that is a boon in regards to cooperation and compatibility in any society or group of people. And I would dare say this is a universal principle. Too many people (to be properly assimilated) with an entirely different, hostile or simply undesirable culture causes harm to this balance, it all boils down to the numbers. And of course you can steer this development in a more rational direction, people have been doing this since the dawn of time.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Utrakil on December 18, 2015, 04:24:34 pm
I know you think the "change" (destruction) of western civilization is inevitable
what makes you fear there might be a destruction of western civilisation.
if you have a look at your countries history did all the changes (brought violently from out side or by the own people from inside) ever destroy french civilization? no it did not. it simply changed it and gave it the means to evolve to the french culture you are so proude of.
And considdering the french culture survived all the annexions, changes of religions and different political/social systems how could it be destroyed by a comparable small number of immigrants.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Oberyn on December 18, 2015, 04:40:26 pm
Because it is the expressly stated goal of post-modernist ideology, the very one that colours your own perception of these changes as being "inevitable". Because it is explicitly stated over and over in a myriad of ways. Because there's only so many times I can see people in the highest and most prestigious positions of power and influence blatantly say that it is their goal before I stop pretending it's merely a completely natural progression and not top-down social engineering. Because the open loathing and contempt of the elites at the expense of their own people, particularly the ones at the lowest end of the social ladder, and for the benefit of foreigners who have no attachment or identification with the nation and culture is now the norm.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Angantyr on December 18, 2015, 05:07:50 pm
Is pride and love really something completely foreign to some of you here when you look around at your own tribe? When you look at the European woman?
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Xant on December 18, 2015, 05:08:44 pm
http://www.svt.se/svts/article5384068.svt/BINARY/Sverigespegling%20p%C3%A5%20SVT%20Nyheter.pdf

-Don't use the word "immigrant"
-Don't describe the appearance of illegals who commit crimes if they're from Africa or the mideast
-Terrorists with swedish passports are to be described as "swedes".
-If anyone claims to have been the victim of discrimination or a hate crime they are to be believed at face value

"Språk är makt. Språk är också politik. Språk signalerar normer"
"Language is power. Language is also politics. Language signals norms"

SVT is the swedish public broadcaster. These are the norms they are obligated to follow. But hey, it's just a couple of retard sociologists stuck in universities and their tumblrite followers, right Kafein? They have sooo little influence out in the real world.
That shit is unbelievably fucked up. The cover up everywhere in Europe is nuts, but Sweden takes it to another level. Like photoshopping people white...
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Paul on December 18, 2015, 05:35:53 pm
Is pride and love really something completely foreign to some of you here when you look around at your own tribe? When you look at the European woman?

Wait, what is my tribe? Furthermore, there are some fine European bitches. But there are fine Asians too. Even Africans. Am I beyond help? Have I failed my tribe? Can anything cure my racetraitorism?
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Angantyr on December 18, 2015, 05:45:27 pm
It's unnecessary to read anything negative against other tribes (and yes I use the term loosely) into that statement, Paul, my position is purely conservative.

We should be allowed to co-exist without being absorbed by each other. Complete separation is not desirable but magnitude of interaction is a factor (and with whom you interact - some actors are simply more desirable than others).
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Kafein on December 18, 2015, 11:24:51 pm
But hey, it's just a couple of retard sociologists stuck in universities and their tumblrite followers, right Kafein? They have sooo little influence out in the real world.

Perhaps my real world is simply not the same as yours. Perhaps I am part of the elite that doesn't give a shit, that has riches more valuable than their ethnicity, unlike the average FN voter. Perhaps I care about the actual job market and actual laws where none of this bullshit matters.

You ask me if it's bad that whatever media and politicians in Sweden are doing retarded whitewashing? It is bad. I'm not so sure their plan is to destroy western civilization, cartoon villain style. What I see is a lot of clueless opportunists trying to out-carebear each other. You take shortcuts in your reasoning, lump everything into the same bag
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Leshma on December 19, 2015, 01:17:54 am
From an evolutionary point of view, mixing people of different races and cultures is always a good thing.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Angantyr on December 19, 2015, 01:18:31 am
Perhaps my real world is simply not the same as yours. Perhaps I am part of the elite that doesn't give a shit, that has riches more valuable than their ethnicity, unlike the average FN voter. Perhaps I care about the actual job market and actual laws where none of this bullshit matters.
Though there's some statistical correlation be careful when attributing social factors to nationalism or opposition to immigration rather than simply having different values.

Just one example out of many European conservative parties gaining broad popular support;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany,
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/07/05/germanys-farage-becomes-leader-of-eurosceptic-alternative-for-germany-party/

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In September 2012, Alexander Gauland, a former federal minister, Bernd Lucke, an economist and Konrad Adam, a former editor of Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung from 1979 to 2000 and chief correspondent of Die Welt until 2008, founded the political group Electoral Alternative 2013 (German: Wahlalternative 2013) in Bad Nauheim, to oppose German federal policies concerning the eurozone crisis. Their manifesto was endorsed by 68 economists, journalists, and business leaders, half of whom were professors and three-quarters of whom had academic degrees.[16]

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At the outset AfD presented itself as conservative and middle-class,[62] catering to a well-educated demographic as more than two-thirds of its initial supporters held doctorates,[63] giving it the nickname the "professors' party".[64] The party was described as professors and academics who dislike the compromises inflicted on their purist theories by German party politics.[65] 86% of the party's initial supporters were male.[33]

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on 4 July 2015 Frauke Petry was elected as the de facto principal speaker of the party with 60% of the member votes ahead of Bernd Lucke at a party congress in Essen. Petry is a member of the right-wing faction of the AfD.[50] Her leadership was widely seen as heralding a shift of the party to the right, to focus more on issues such as migration, Islam and strengthening ties to Russia,[51] a shift which was claimed by Lucke as turning the party into a "Pegida party".[52]

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A straw poll by The Economist found that nine out of ten PEGIDA protesters would back the AfD.[81]
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Leshma on December 19, 2015, 02:29:27 am
The Second Most Powerful Man On Earth, Tsar Putin The Great Endorses The Arising Most Powerful Man To Be On Earth: Sir Donald Trump The Great. Both Will Roast Turkey And The Earth Will Rejoice For Thanksgiving  (http://shoebat.com/2015/12/18/89497/)
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Rhekimos on December 19, 2015, 03:59:54 pm
‘This Will Be The End Of Trump’s Campaign’ (http://www.theonion.com/article/will-be-end-trumps-campaign-says-increasingly-nerv-52002)
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Kafein on December 20, 2015, 01:49:12 pm
Though there's some statistical correlation be careful when attributing social factors to nationalism or opposition to immigration rather than simply having different values.

Just one example out of many European conservative parties gaining broad popular support;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany,
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/07/05/germanys-farage-becomes-leader-of-eurosceptic-alternative-for-germany-party/

Looks like between 2012 and now that party got co-opted by exactly the people I'm talking about, or rather their cynic overlords.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Butan on December 20, 2015, 05:01:03 pm
No, De Gaulle said completely rational, relevant and intelligent things.

Yes, and your quote wasnt one of them. Not everything is white or black, little child. Quit your pathetic self-loathing generalisation, De Gaulle and other dead old white men did great things.
Trying to oppose different human races and encouraging alienation is not of them.



Oh yeah, that's working sooooo well, muslims just love France, love it's culture, love it's history, love it's past, love it's people.

Depends which muslims you are asking. I guess you've been having discussions only with the ones who raped and murdered your entire ethnic french family?




Your kind is dying out Oberyn, and its a good thing. You can not stop it, you can only hate it and add pain and suffering to yourself and others during your lifetime, with your philosophical positioning. Hundred's years from now, people will laugh at how forcefully you and your "people" tried to prevent, and ultimately only slowed down, the creation of a human race.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Tibe on December 20, 2015, 05:29:22 pm
Yes, and your quote wasnt one of them. Not everything is white or black, little child. Quit your pathetic self-loathing generalisation, De Gaulle and other dead old white men did great things.
Trying to oppose different human races and encouraging alienation is not of them.

Depends which muslims you are asking. I guess you've been having discussions only with the ones who raped and murdered your entire ethnic french family?

Your kind is dying out Oberyn, and its a good thing. You can not stop it, you can only hate it and add pain and suffering to yourself and others during your lifetime, with your philosophical positioning. Hundred's years from now, people will laugh at how forcefully you and your "people" tried to prevent, and ultimately only slowed down, the creation of a human race.

The general point is that they dont want to be here. But they have no other choice. Germany and Sweden that were at the forefront of taking in everybody coming are now overwhelmed massively and those people will probably be living asses together in camps and on foodstamps for many years to come.

And now thats officially Germanies and Swedens problem. And now apparently Germany is threatening the EU countries that refuse to take the burden with court. So now all the immigrants are pissed and extremely dissapointed, EU is more divided than ever, Chengen is close to being gone, borders are being shut. The crimes and rape inside refugeecamps is massive and nobody can do a thing about it. In the long run majority of refugees arent getting shit by the end of this and they end up in our streets being pissed at the locals and at themselves.  Heard news about the refugeecamps? Its a whole different world in them. Practically same as what would have been in their own country. Majority of them didnt even get the safety and stability they hoped to get when they first decided to leave their homes.

And all this for what?
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Butan on December 20, 2015, 05:32:32 pm
I dont remember a time and age where what you said was not the reality.
Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Angantyr on December 20, 2015, 05:54:48 pm
Looks like between 2012 and now that party got co-opted by exactly the people I'm talking about, or rather their cynic overlords.
No one doubts those forces exist, though Pegida voters are generally middle-class people with a relatively high level of education. However, political inclusion is a criterion for party growth, such as when Nigel Farage sought to broaden the not dissimilar UKIP image by introducing socially conservative policies over a single-issue policy. Most of the right wing populism we currently see in Europe have adopted cornerstones of the old conservatives parties, in order to cover larger parts of the population, which is not only cynical but also aligning policies and finding common ground for different sectors of the population, itself a democratic mechanism.

But my point was that you can find a sense of ethnicity (ancestral, social, cultural or national) and support for the nation state across the spectrum, also among 'elites'. I've lived all across Sealand but I grew up in the most affluent region of Denmark (The Gentofte-Hellerup area) and most there vote conservative, with a smaller group voting for the libertarians.

Title: Re: So... French cuck leftists?
Post by: Kafein on December 20, 2015, 06:18:35 pm
There's a difference between a sense of tribe and how relevant it should be in law. I can guarantee that when it gets more difficult for academics to move around, they are not happy.

Euro-skepticism is also a complicated issue because there are two things: the political alignment of the EU as a whole, and the institutions themselves. People very often have a problem with the former and join into groups that want to destroy the latter. Why is the EU so liberal (in the historical sense)? I think it has a lot to do with which politicians choose to leave positions in their countries to get involved into EU politics. Naturally I'd expect those to be more liberal than those who stay, as the EU is itself a liberal development over nation-states.