... As a practicing Scientologist if I was ever unfortunately in the same position as the brother here i'd feel ridiculous bringing the whole operating level 3 Thetan Sea Organization along for a press conference about a tragedy like this.
Was gonna post the south park clip where they explain what scientologists actually believe, but for some reason it's not on youtube (I assume copyright).
Closest thing I could find was this video on dailymotion:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpkh2d_south-park-proved-right-about-scientology_news
Although that one also contains voice clips from the founder of scientology which actually makes it even better.
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time for a C-rpg intervention.
Ok I have a question.
How much money have you spent on "auditing sessions" or whatever they are called? Or if you consider the payments donations... Then how much money have you donated to the church of Scientology through the auditing sessions?
It depends, if you want to participate in learning the process and training it costs next to nothing, because your services pay for themselves.
I'm not saying I want to participate in anything... I want to know how much you have paid/donated to the church of scientology. If you want to factor in services you've done for them as well I'm all ears.
Still waiting for the answer to my question :wink:
Probably less than alot of other religions spend on ceremonies etc. Maybe $5000 on classes and Dianetic seminars. You're either a Scientologist or you're not, it's a myth that you have to be rich to be one, some are more dedicated than others. Would you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars studying theology at a religious institute?
I swear that said $50,000 a second ago...
I guess $5,000 isn't too bad if you personally think you obtain something of value in return.
$50,000 is a whole nother story.
And to answer your question, no, I would not spend hundreds of thousands studying religion.
This is my first time actually talking to a Scientologist first hand so I guess I Want to get a subjective opinion from the other side of the fence...
Ok next questions if you don't mind:
1. What is with these claims of church members stalking, investigating and attempting to blackmail harsh critics of scientology? Do you feel this is necessary and if so, why?
Examples: I've heard many rumors that they stalked and gathered information on matt parker & trey stone (creators of southpark) after they aired that episode of southpark with scientology being their main focus... Also they've seem to have done the same to many critics and particular authors of books critical of Scientology.
2. Have you disconnected from any of your family members after joining the church? What does your family think of your religious views?
3. In your own words, what was your life like before becoming a member of scientology... How is your life different today compared to your former self?
I dont see how scientology is anymore ridiculous than any other religion, practicing scientologist, christian or muslim, whatever, and what the fuck.
The only reason this sounds outrageously silly is because it hasnt been practiced and forced over multiple generations.
Fits the intellectual level of his posts
dayumn...muslims prapoganda
Have you heard of this stuff Grytviken or do you dismiss it entirely?
Religion, to me, is whatever floats your boat. As long as it's teaching you how to be a good person I don't care what you believe. I've read about all religions and most recently Scientology because I had no idea what the fuck it actually was. You may argue it's a money grab but isn't Christianity as well? Do they not pass around a collection plate for you to fill with money every Sunday, and for some lucky people, Wednesday too? Are there not mega churches and Jole Olstein? Discuss.
Follow your heart Grytviken, life's too short to give a shit.
dayumn...
Have you heard of this stuff Grytviken or do you dismiss it entirely?
If Scientology survives for a couple thousand years (lol) its origins will become at least a little more obscure, much like all the religions that were founded in the fucking bronze/iron age.
Christianity is a much larger money grabbing operation, it's just that they're way more subtle about it. A bunch of nonsense for huge amounts of money
value = gotten
True this also for Islam. Here imams are paid by the government and the Diyanet (the official Department of Theology) receives the largest chunk of annual governmental budget, overshadowing health and education. The exact numbers have been concealed for the last couple years due to the outrage they cause, but it is a known fact. Also, the department even asked for an additional budget this year, because so much still wasn't so much.
Does this stop imams from extending their beggar hands to the crowd during every service? Of course not. They obviously always need more to create little brainwashing courses for little children, Ottoman-style schooling programs as alternatives to conventional primary school. They can always open yet another Quran reading course although probably thousands of them already exist. And their indispensable excuse is that they want to.open another mosque in location x. There is already a mosque every ten meters you walk, but the crowd always buys this one. There might be one day when the entire fucking place is full of nothing but mosques. I bet the zombie sheep would still pay for new mosque constructions.
scientologyis shit
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So what you're trying or he's trying to say here is that, the easiest way to make money is to start a religion?
$3200 for the basic starter books, $50,000 to go clear and free your alien soul from implants. Lot's of money is needed to maintain the billions of dollars worth of facilities, restaurants, retreats, yachts, and research centers.
A highly-praised HBO documentary on Scientology from earlier this year:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4257858/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_Clear_%28film%29
Sounds like a good scam. So it has a lot in common with established religions.
Why are members that leave hounded and vilified by the scientologists?
He's fucking with you (obviously). Low level scientologists are not aware of all the "leave planet bcz aliens" crazyness, that is only revealed very late when you're so brainwashed that you would literally believe anything.
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chadz, go start a donkey cult.
Christianity is a much larger money grabbing operation, it's just that they're way more subtle about it. A bunch of nonsense for huge amounts of money
chadz, go start a donkey cult.
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$3200 for the basic starter books, $50,000 to go clear and free your alien soul from implants. Alot of money is needed to maintain the billions of dollars worth of facilities, restaurants, retreats, yachts, and research centers, charities.
Old religions ask for charity but do not force it.
Not necessarily. At least around these parts it may be free to show up for Sunday mass as a walk-in, however if you want to get all the benefits (i.e. brainwash your younglings with their teachings) then you'll have to sign up to be a member which has monthly/yearly requires dues. So sure, you can show up to church and never pay a dime, but if you want to become a follower in the first place you probably are gonna have to pay up. Maybe scientology is the same, it has an entry fee but nothing else "required" past that.
Is it possible to become a scientologist and not spend a dime? Old religions ask for charity but do not force it.
Yet many people will call themselves Christians and are recognized as such while also paying nothing or next to nothing to the Church. I don't think there are many people calling themselves scientologues without actually spending thousands of dollars.
Out of the palm of his hand...
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Well... build it and they will come. Not religion, but this thread.
*ahem* good sir. Is sir aware that sir is/may be/might potentially in the future, be spending a lot of money for little material gain as a member of sir's particular religion/group/organisation/club/cult/thing? I simply state it as nobody else in the threads seems to have taken it upon themselves to mention this. *Self-indulgent chortle*, why, i consider this to be quite the scam, oohoohoohoohoo how delightful, i shall never cease to enjoy typing that i consider this to be a scam. Boy i bet Grytviken sure feels silly for accidentally blurting out that he's a scientologist in this particular forum, what a completely unintentional and unfortunate thing for this person to have posted here.
Shouldn't it trouble you that you don't have money? They offer courses and auditing to find the problems that suppress your ability to make money.
At this point, their parents are paying membership dues and the added cost of religious education to the church
*ahem* good sir. Is sir aware that sir is/may be/might potentially in the future, be spending a lot of money for little material gain as a member of sir's particular religion/group/organisation/club/cult/thing? I simply state it as nobody else in the threads seems to have taken it upon themselves to mention this. *Self-indulgent chortle*, why, i consider this to be quite the scam, oohoohoohoohoo how delightful, i shall never cease to enjoy typing that i consider this to be a scam. Boy i bet Grytviken sure feels silly for accidentally blurting out that he's a scientologist in this particular forum, what a completely unintentional and unfortunate thing for this person to have posted here.
This thread is just Xenuphobic .
Well, it's official now:
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Even Oberyn isn't a scientologist.
Grytviken, THE POWER OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST COMPELS YOU! REPENT YOUR SINS AND THROW AWAY THESE FALSE TEACHINGS OF MAN! JESUS CHRIST LOVES YOU AND PUT YOUR FAITH IN CHRIST FOR ETERNAL LIFE IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN!
Scientology is a modern extension of all religions. Mohammed and Jesus were r6 alien implants who were able to free themselves through self auditing. Don't you want to free yourself?
This xenuloving will not be tolerated in the Imperium of Man.
[...] r6 alien implants [...]Could you please explain. this is not part of my heathen vocabulary.
Corrected you in the name of the emprah, honorable battle brother
Why did Cruise become scientologist? He could donate to church, be a muslim... but... he would never get proper return of his investment.
Damn it brother Christonius, not infront of the men. -.-