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Title: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Schoi on October 13, 2015, 07:30:25 am
Removed.

gg
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: fallinup on October 13, 2015, 07:32:32 am
Geeg I'm done. I've had an admin say its them doing it and its fishy AF.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: mcdeath on October 13, 2015, 07:35:26 am
Pretty sure that guy doesn't know how strat works.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Drunken_sailor on October 13, 2015, 07:41:48 am
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defending the roof tops :)
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: mcdeath on October 13, 2015, 07:46:01 am
AS THE ARMY OF NAKED SERFS ADVANCED TO CERTAIN DEATH INTO THE HUGE ARMY OF HCE, THEY WERE SLAIN, QUICKLY BY THE SWORDS WITHOUT PROTECTION.

STRANGELY, THE SERFS PRAYED TO SATAN, THE ALMIGHTY DEMON LORD AND SACRIFICED A FELLOW NAKED SERF. SATAN ANSWERED THE REQUEST AND SLAYED ONE OF THE HCE INFANTRY MEN

and then shit happened

Lol
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Torben on October 13, 2015, 08:19:38 am
yo!  I have no idea whats going on.  help me out and tell the story : )
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Schoi on October 13, 2015, 08:24:04 am
yo!  I have no idea whats going on.  help me out and tell the story : )

Here's what happened in full detail.

HCE attacked a village that had no gear, late at night on the NA servers. A shit ton of people including me signed up for the village. Since we had no way of winning against the plate infantry, we ban and kick polled the attacking army. I then got banned because my poll was accepted. We then got ONE WEAPON BECAUSE THE ATTACKER DIED LMAO, and with that one weapon, we crushed the enemy team. Now I'm banned from all servers lmao
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: fallinup on October 13, 2015, 08:35:58 am
yo!  I have no idea whats going on.  help me out and tell the story : )
Well we were somewhat HCE allies and they decided to betray us because we had a fief that we took from Black Bird. Well I had no clue about the betrayal until an hour before. Well the people of crpg to action with me and Urchibooty and defended our village with our overlord as we did our satanic rituals to slay one HCE man. Then we carried on to slaughter all 4 of them with our fist and 1 Bec. So ye 200 vs 1200 and the 200 won lol.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Latvian on October 13, 2015, 09:49:43 am
Well we were somewhat HCE allies and they decided to betray us because we had a fief that we took from Black Bird. Well I had no clue about the betrayal until an hour before. Well the people of crpg to action with me and Urchibooty and defended our village with our overlord as we did our satanic rituals to slay one HCE man. Then we carried on to slaughter all 4 of them with our fist and 1 Bec. So ye 200 vs 1200 and the 200 won lol.
i genuinely laughed reading this  :)
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Drunken_sailor on October 13, 2015, 09:55:59 am
  First I am sorry that the battle went down the way it did, I didn't know of Schoi's abilities to summon the dark lord.  It was a bit unnerving when he began to draw the pentagram in the sand using the mutilated entrails of our fallen village people...

but to see that glorious moment when the clouds parted and the sun shone down on one lone berserk, who carried our single hope of victory towards the enemy lines, armorless and followed by a cadre of fellow fearless and naked warriors all who where QQV'ing, was truly inspiring.  To stand around Ulumshalar while he desperately fought off the horde of nudgers, with the pack of naked mongrels nipping at his heels, eager to pick up the soul weapon we possessed should it fall from the lifeless hands of our hero, even if it meant the cold bite of steal on our flesh.  To watch Ulum's body crumple into the blood stained sand, and to witness these small miracles of fearlessness has shown me that the massacre new tisimr has endured wasn't in vain.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Torben on October 13, 2015, 10:05:46 am
sounds like a moment in crpg history that i should not have missed out on. qq
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: chesterotab on October 13, 2015, 12:47:06 pm
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That can't be true
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: BlackxBird on October 13, 2015, 12:50:42 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4638
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: GandalfJr on October 13, 2015, 01:04:22 pm
Wasn't Froi the one that said Schoi couldn't be mature?
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on October 13, 2015, 01:05:47 pm
Here's what happened in full detail.

HCE attacked a village that had no gear, late at night on the NA servers. A shit ton of people including me signed up for the village. Since we had no way of winning against the plate infantry, we ban and kick polled the attacking army. I then got banned because my poll was accepted. We then got ONE WEAPON BECAUSE THE ATTACKER DIED LMAO, and with that one weapon, we crushed the enemy team. Now I'm banned from all servers lmao

If this is the true story, I have got to admit that it must have been quite a funny scene to watch. However, the entire ban polling business was truly a foul move.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: BlackxBird on October 13, 2015, 01:10:15 pm
Here's what happened in full detail.

HCE attacked a village that had no gear, late at night on the NA servers. A shit ton of people including me signed up for the village. Since we had no way of winning against the plate infantry, we ban and kick polled the attacking army. I then got banned because my poll was accepted. We then got ONE WEAPON BECAUSE THE ATTACKER DIED LMAO, and with that one weapon, we crushed the enemy team. Now I'm banned from all servers lmao

well done!
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: fallinup on October 13, 2015, 01:48:10 pm
Proof of gear bombing because the only faction thats not HCE that attacked us we randomly get gear so we can defend. Lol this is so sad HCE.  Peasant gear still exist you just have dicks like this gearbombing

Here is the evidence because it even says you have armor to defend.

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The Acre or Any player who does this/has done this should be banned for at least a week-month depending on if they used it a lot or on accident one time.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: W0LF on October 13, 2015, 02:19:42 pm
How is that proof of gear bombing? It just shows that this person has peasant gear. If i am missing something please tell me because i am a little out of touch strat wise.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: sLaughterino on October 13, 2015, 04:36:48 pm
If we'd had peasant gear and Acre weren't scumbags it'd have been a rapessacre.  Schoi was banned to save us, he is now our messiah.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: W0LF on October 13, 2015, 04:55:58 pm
And by goods do you mean trading goods or gear? Sorry if i seem stupid here just never heard of gear bombing while preparing battle instead of before battle.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: ARN_ on October 13, 2015, 05:37:19 pm
If it was gear then the defenders would have had some gear to spawn with, as you can tell from the screenshots they did not.

If you give someone/a fief trade goods it can be considered 'gear' by the AI and deprive you of the free gear you would have otherwise been given.
Funny thing is that this happened to us as well when hce attacked us, see a pattern here?
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Bauer on October 13, 2015, 05:59:42 pm
Here's what happened in full detail.

HCE attacked a village that had no gear, late at night on the NA servers. A shit ton of people including me signed up for the village. Since we had no way of winning against the plate infantry, we ban and kick polled the attacking army. I then got banned because my poll was accepted. We then got ONE WEAPON BECAUSE THE ATTACKER DIED LMAO, and with that one weapon, we crushed the enemy team. Now I'm banned from all servers lmao

I died because you and the rest of the scum poll banned me while the admin did nothing until after the fact. You cheated and we lost the battle. You had lost most of your ticks and since I've been accused of cheating by HoC and others and they wanted to "punish" HCE for the supposed rampant cheating, they got the troll to do what he does best. Troll.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Bauer on October 13, 2015, 06:06:47 pm
Why is it us that did it? Ffs, if half the awake community hadn't gone on an anti-Acre crusade (lol) before the battle no one would have signed for Archiboit. Well, not the 20 that did. Couldn't it have been someone else? I really don't get this. It seems kind of comical honestly. Everyone accusing us of cheating and we're all baffled. Guess you can't ungearbug yourself and attack. I guess the community reaction to my raiding something is part of it, but they don't have to take it out on the entire faction. Of course they would though. Furthermore, I didn't put any trade goods into largos' fief. I got rid of some shit armour. As for froi, louie and the others, I don't know what they did. There really wasn't much planning and we don't use this as some kind of tactic. It's very disturbing that people have so little trust in other people.

 MY FIRST QUESTION IS: IS it just trade goods that bug it or does armour do it?

MY SECOND QUESTION IS: How does selling trade goods to a fief put them into the defender's inventory?
 
MY THIRD QUESTION IS: Couldn't someone else have recently trade those goods to the fief?

MY FOURTH QUESTION IS: Why do people twist the facts and cloud the truth with such assertions that they would have won the battle if they had peasant gear? If there wasn't a "crusade" against us because of what happened, we wouldn't have been ninja rostered like that.

My FIFTH QUESTION IS: Why poll ban me when I didn't have anything to do with the damned situation as far as I know? I haven't gearbugged anything, and if I gearbugged Largos' fief it doesn't even matter. This is all just because I raided the fief. Take it out by swarming MY army whenever you see it. Don't take it out on my entire faction by cheating in battles and refusing to sign for any of us.

MY SIXTH QUESTION IS: Is there anyone reasonable in this community?

I'll answer my sixth question myself: no, apparently not.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 13, 2015, 06:13:00 pm
If it was gear then the defenders would have had some gear to spawn with, as you can tell from the screenshots they did not.

If you give someone/a fief trade goods it can be considered 'gear' by the AI and deprive you of the free gear you would have otherwise been given.

Time to step in here.
As that screen shot shows, that is a PERSON(not a fief's) inventory. Therefore, the only way to have acquired trade goods is if said person has allowed transfers on himself. (For fiefs, this isn't the case, but that screenshot is taken from the "Faction" window.)

Also in that picture he has 5000 goods. Now, I'm very certain that goods don't count as gear on a player, but they do in fiefs. Perhaps, they actually do for players as well?
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: sLaughterino on October 13, 2015, 09:11:00 pm
if half the awake community hadn't gone on an anti-Acre crusade (lol) before the battle no one would have signed for Archiboit. Well, not the 20 that did.

That was kind of due to a recruiting spree like an hour before the battle to generate a roster to defend the village which you had no claim to.

Louie paid the price for not taking his own battles seriously enough, and expecting the community to roll over for him like he rolled over for Blackbird.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Jona on October 13, 2015, 09:22:33 pm
Time to step in here.
As that screen shot shows, that is a PERSON(not a fief's) inventory. Therefore, the only way to have acquired trade goods is if said person has allowed transfers on himself. (For fiefs, this isn't the case, but that screenshot is taken from the "Faction" window.)

Also in that picture he has 5000 goods. Now, I'm very certain that goods don't count as gear on a player, but they do in fiefs. Perhaps, they actually do for players as well?

The only thing that screenshot proves is that yes, peasant gear still exists (for those lucky enough to be attacked by someone other than Acre, anyways). There's been an obviously false rumor going around that chadz returned from his long hiatus just to remove peasant gear from strat (lol). And yes, a person with goods can still get peasant gear, while a fief with goods cannot. Hence, all of Acre's attacks against otherwise empty fiefs have been a complete shit show since "someone" just so happened to dump gear in right before the battle started.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: mcdeath on October 13, 2015, 09:25:13 pm
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Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 13, 2015, 09:25:55 pm
Why is it us that did it? Ffs, if half the awake community hadn't gone on an anti-Acre crusade (lol) before the battle no one would have signed for Archiboit.
I always sign for Archiboit whenever he has a battle, and I believe I have made every single one of his battles as well lol. But sure, I only did it because I hate acre  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: mcdeath on October 13, 2015, 09:26:14 pm
I always sign for Archiboit whenever he has a battle, and I believe I have made every single one of his battles as well lol. But sure, I only did it because I hate acre  :rolleyes:

Who is archiboit?
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: fallinup on October 13, 2015, 11:47:35 pm
Time to step in here.
As that screen shot shows, that is a PERSON(not a fief's) inventory. Therefore, the only way to have acquired trade goods is if said person has allowed transfers on himself. (For fiefs, this isn't the case, but that screenshot is taken from the "Faction" window.)

Also in that picture he has 5000 goods. Now, I'm very certain that goods don't count as gear on a player, but they do in fiefs. Perhaps, they actually do for players as well?
Yes my proof was that we only got gear when we weren't facing HCE and also we had gear in the fief we defended but apparently they don't exist lol. Cute kiddos
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 13, 2015, 11:52:12 pm
Yes my proof was that we only got gear when we weren't facing HCE and also we had gear in the fief we defended but apparently they don't exist lol. Cute kiddos

Dude,

FYI your post proves nothing with that photo. Anyone who has a brain can tell you why(see previous posts above). What it does prove (only) is peasent gear still exists.

TBH
I'm pretty fair and reliable judge. Lets do this the old fashioned way. Answer my questions publicly (particularly the last one) and lets get this all cleared up. I believe the people in question are Largos and Bauer, but I am only privy to what I can read.

1) Was the owner of the fief in the fief? (Y/N?)

2) Dependent on 1, did the owner verify peasant gear before battle started(or gear at all?)

3) When was the last time the fief was managed?

4) At Previous instance of management, what gear was in there?

5) Acre player: Please post the post game battle log that you have received from both the raid, and the subsequent "gearless" battle.

I might have more later, but this should start "handling" the affair, publicly, and hopefully fairly.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Drunken_sailor on October 14, 2015, 04:53:35 am
Who is archiboit?

I..
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Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: fallinup on October 14, 2015, 07:01:08 am
Funny thing we just had a battle that was non HCE and guess what. WE HAD PEASY GEAR? Wuht is this Illuminati or proof these bitches be gear bombing.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: mcdeath on October 14, 2015, 01:52:23 pm
Somebody say illuminati?
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: W0LF on October 14, 2015, 02:09:52 pm
Funny thing we just had a battle that was non HCE and guess what. WE HAD PEASY GEAR? Wuht is this Illuminati or proof these bitches be gear bombing.
wasnt it a field battle though? It could be a bug with fiefs only. As many have said it seems chads might have been doing something with strat lately. During the weekend strat fast forwarded 12 hours randomly. I can talk with my guys next time i am on ts to try and figure out this shit so there isnt all this drama over something that could just be a bug.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: W0LF on October 14, 2015, 03:00:25 pm
Sounds good to me. Hopefully we can figure this out without too much more drama.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: mcdeath on October 14, 2015, 03:09:38 pm
If we don't get an official response or one we can rely on, we can always perform tests on one of the many available villages. Archibot has a village near me, I could test some of the theories here and see if battles started by non-HCE cause similar 'bugs' (and ofc give the fief back after testing) with extensive screenshots taken before and after.

Are you in the desert? Come attack my humble village nova aab. We can test that shit out
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: mcdeath on October 14, 2015, 03:36:43 pm
I've already taken all the gear out so thats where we can start
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: cup457 on October 14, 2015, 06:33:03 pm
chantakey is a my old friendet
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Taser on October 14, 2015, 06:35:15 pm
If we don't get an official response or one we can rely on, we can always perform tests on one of the many available villages. Archibot has a village near me, I could test some of the theories here and see if battles started by non-HCE cause similar 'bugs' (and ofc give the fief back after testing) with extensive screenshots taken before and after.

Sounds good to me. Hopefully we can figure this out without too much more drama.

Are you in the desert? Come attack my humble village nova aab. We can test that shit out

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Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 14, 2015, 06:41:22 pm
If you guys wish to test it. Test 3 things:
Nothing in fief > peasant gear?
Goods in fief > No peasant gear?
Raiding fief > Does it capture trade goods in fief or not?
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Jona on October 14, 2015, 07:58:01 pm
Let's see if you spawn with peasant gear when your fief is empty. See if ol' chadzy's been changing things. (whether you have gear or not my equipment should make for an entertaining battle)

The Empire Strikes Back?
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: fallinup on October 14, 2015, 09:04:51 pm
Well we were attacked yesterday and had no gear and it gave us peasy gear soooo. kinda ends with it looking to be HCE doing this shit since it wasn't a HCE member who attacked us.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: W0LF on October 14, 2015, 09:35:46 pm
Well we were attacked yesterday and had no gear and it gave us peasy gear soooo. kinda ends with it looking to be HCE doing this shit since it wasn't a HCE member who attacked us.
The problem is that it was a field battle not a fief battle. That's why we are testing it with a village.
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: mcdeath on October 14, 2015, 09:56:24 pm
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 this is what my fief manager page looks like dated at 3:53 pm est. Before the attack I can take another screenshot but as of right now my fief is empty
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: mcdeath on October 15, 2015, 03:24:40 pm
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As of last night around 10:40 pm est there was no gear
Title: Re: 200 peasant fief with no gear full of naked men wins against 1.2k army
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2015, 04:16:03 pm
Server updates hourly. You should have checked at 11 pm(or you can check now, it should be be the same)