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Title: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Grytviken on September 26, 2015, 08:20:01 am

you can try the demo on steam   :D
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Clockworkkiller on September 26, 2015, 05:02:32 pm
Holy shit how have we not had a thread about this game I fuckin love it do much.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Richyy on September 26, 2015, 05:53:08 pm
Wow!
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Angantyr on September 26, 2015, 05:54:51 pm
They've been propagandizing a lot for this on the rpgcodex, it sounded interesting but I didn't think it was nowhere near release. Anyone tried it yet?
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Richyy on September 26, 2015, 05:57:44 pm
Quote from: Angantyr on September 26, 2015, 05:54:51 pm
They've been propagandizing a lot for this on the rpgcodex, it sounded interesting but I didn't think it was nowhere near release. Anyone tried it yet?

Downloading the demo now, full version cost 30$ :/
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Clockworkkiller on September 26, 2015, 06:11:06 pm
if i remember the latest update correctly, atleast 1 ending is complete. and the dev is working on the rest.
the game is playable, but make a save before you near the end, because their changing and updating the final bit of the game. which breaks your save if your around that point.

its a game that requires multiple playthroughs, and multiple tries with different classes. so bear tat in mind if you want to get the most out of the game.

also be warned, its pretty brutal, you really can only take on 2 guys at most. there are many situations where you want to flat out AVOID combat, you really arent a superhero.
Also this isnt one of those "even if my skill isnt high enough, i can still try it without consequence" games, if for say, your disguise skill isnt high enough, then you really shouldnt attempt to put on a disguise because people will try to kill you when you fail.

but its definitely fun , IMHO one of the few RPGs that really gives consequences to your actions and decisions. Hell, even taking the time to travel between cities will move time forward and alter/change events in the game.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Leshma on September 26, 2015, 11:29:53 pm
Game should be finished before this year runs out.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: SeQuel on September 27, 2015, 12:11:07 am
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on September 26, 2015, 09:45:04 pm
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Wasnt interested, now i am

Thats kinda cool.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Voncrow on September 28, 2015, 04:40:47 pm
I've played it. It definitely succeeds in that old top down rpg feel. Also most the plot is intertwined. You can start off as one of eight different starter kits which aids you to play a certain style or grants more freedom. For instance starting off the game as one class will pit you against who you would be if you picked that other class, and vice versa. Stuff where stories for different classes interact makes the game that much more interesting. There's also plenty of story to visit but the locations are pretty limited. That being said the first two cities and the main arcs for each class were done last time I checked. I read they finished the third city and I think that means they are just gonna polish up the game and make it feel more immersive and then finish it up. It's definitely a game worth getting if you like the old fallouts or games like that. I know I enjoyed it and dagger dodgers are really OP. You can also Kite with crossbows if your guy is fest enough. I might go back in to play even more, I tried all the stories for a short run but I think I'll try to do a new one further in.  I have 34 hours in it which is typical for story games like KotOR but I feel I could easily put in three times that much if other games didn't hold my attention and I wasn't totally stuck in a battle I can't win with my current guy. Also if you do buy this be prepared to die, a lot. You're guy is is the definition of squish unless you go tank mans killer dudes with uber con, heavy armour, and super duper shield skills.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Angantyr on September 28, 2015, 07:45:35 pm
How's the writing?
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Voncrow on September 28, 2015, 07:51:38 pm
The Stories that I went through were interesting and I can't remember it being typo ridden. So well enough written I believe and intriguing enough to string you along.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Taser on September 28, 2015, 09:55:31 pm
Definitely fun and von's right, the stories mesh together with the starting characters. I haven't played them all but the mercenary and the assassin one overlap at the beginning. I thought that was cool. And yeah daggers are awesome. I still liked my mercenary playthrough better until I tried to take on the gang in the town by myself and died. Took out the leader and a member while almost killing a 3rd so not too shabby.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Voncrow on September 28, 2015, 10:27:16 pm
If you can get a high enough dodge skill and a good dagger with enough pierce and +X counters you can easily annihilate almost any enemy. Except other dagger guys built like that, there are two who are near invincible. And don't even get me started on the arena champion. Also I didn't want to spoil things taser. You twat.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Taser on September 28, 2015, 10:43:51 pm
Quote from: Voncrow on September 28, 2015, 10:27:16 pm
If you can get a high enough dodge skill and a good dagger with enough pierce and +X counters you can easily annihilate almost any enemy. Except other dagger guys built like that, there are two who are near invincible. And don't even get me started on the arena champion. Also I didn't want to spoil things taser. You twat.

You haven't spoiled anything mang. Good stuff tho.

Its a fun game and I like it thus far. I'll def be buying it when they finish it up.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Clockworkkiller on October 16, 2015, 10:38:27 pm
just a heads up, the game is now 100% complete, after 10 years of development. go play
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Leshma on October 16, 2015, 11:14:22 pm
already on it... dis games gud :D

edit: its full of treacherous bastards, reminds me of see-ar-pi-gee
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Earthdforce on October 16, 2015, 11:34:30 pm
Oh wow, I remember playing a demo for this game a couple years ago and having a blast. I'll download the new demo and give it a shot, I recall the combat being challenging
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Tibe on October 17, 2015, 01:50:19 pm
Now this is why I visit these forums. Never heard of it before, played it and it is solid, son.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on October 17, 2015, 07:42:25 pm
Initially I was psyched about this game. That was until I read one of the positive reviews, which basically said you can't become a jack of all trades due to the limited character points you are able to get throughout the game. And it went on to add that you'd have hard time without strictly following one of the specific character development paths anyway. The player who wrote the review even said that he learned that the hard way by not focusing much on a single class and eventually got locked out of progress.

Now this sucks dinosaur balls. Why make a game that pays homeage to the original Fallout, but throttle the character so that he can't have enough of a choice as to what he wants to become? Yeah, it boils down to freedom again. I think at this time and age, freedom in a game is all that matters to me. It's a pity that not all developers care that much about it nowadays.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Leshma on October 17, 2015, 08:34:51 pm
You can't be jack of all trades in old Fallout or any other classic cRPG. Jack of all trades crap came with Elder Scrolls series where you can level everything to the max. Whole idea of RPG is to pick a role and stick with it, not to be one size fits everything type of character. Having limited points to assign to abilities and skills is one of cornerstones of RPG genre.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on October 17, 2015, 08:50:19 pm
Indeed you could. I am not talking about maxing everything out, but being able to multiclass without breaking your own ability to make progress. I'd almost always go for the stealth bastard+powerhouse+energy and small weapons master path for example. However, the way that AoD review was written, it sounds nearly gamebreaking for you to be more than 1 thing at a time.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Leshma on October 17, 2015, 09:59:07 pm
Because it is game-breaking in any game that isn't meant for idiots to play. You can choose mixed character but no one will guarantee you'll be able to progress with such character. Not every build works well in RPG.

As for review itself, sounds like it is written by some kid who only played Skyrim. Steam review sections is full of similar reviews.

Just like Dark Souls or Arcanum or some other quality RPG, this isn't game for everyone. If you're into Elder Scrolls kind of RPG, maybe its better to avoid it.

Even Diablo makes it clear to you that by choosing Sorceress you won't be good in melee. Yes, you can put points in STR and VIT, but will you be able to beat the game at higher diff. levels? I don't think so. Talking about first two games in Diablo series, not this modern lemonade for idiots.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on October 17, 2015, 10:01:20 pm
Yeah, yeah, casual games versus hardcore classical rpgs and shit... Not for everyone etc.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Leshma on October 18, 2015, 12:23:10 am
Exactly :wink:
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Taser on October 18, 2015, 03:37:45 am
I don't think there's a problem with multi classing in AoD but you'll really main in one thing and maybe have backup skills. Like being really good with sword and shield and a small bonus to your ability to trade. That's probably the best it'll get. Guess that's not really multi classing.

Because you can get through the game maining a merchant that has never used a weapon before. That's cool. Almost every rpg has you playing a warrior in some form in order to progress through the story. So that's different from the norm these days.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Tibe on October 18, 2015, 11:06:54 am
Quote from: Daunt_Flockula on October 17, 2015, 10:01:20 pm
Yeah, yeah, casual games versus hardcore classical rpgs and shit... Not for everyone etc.

I kinda like it. It creates a lot of replay value, because whatever path you sticked to, works(I think, I...hope, in theory should), always revealing a new story or situation with every playtrough with different characters.

Honestly the Elder scrolls lvl 100 everything by the end is complete bullshit and creates no tension at all. But I see your point. This game is a little bit too unforgiving with sparing you points and its damn near impossible to not get locked out, but hopefully it will be ironed out one day. Hav a difficulty setting or something. I dont find too hardcore enjoyable.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Duster on October 18, 2015, 12:07:00 pm
Just got to the second town, I am roleplaying a conniving jew merchant. The game is quite fun if you avoid the combat system, which I found incredibly difficult and random.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on October 18, 2015, 12:17:34 pm
Quote from: Taser on October 18, 2015, 03:37:45 am
I don't think there's a problem with multi classing in AoD but you'll really main in one thing and maybe have backup skills. Like being really good with sword and shield and a small bonus to your ability to trade. That's probably the best it'll get. Guess that's not really multi classing.

Because you can get through the game maining a merchant that has never used a weapon before. That's cool. Almost every rpg has you playing a warrior in some form in order to progress through the story. So that's different from the norm these days.

Understandable, but they could at least offer at least as much as the example they are following, which is Fallout. I am totally alright with, say, being a good shield and sword warrior but never becoming a good bowman. Yet I am still after that jack-of-all sensation. By definition, it means "a bit of multiple things", and not necessarily seizably much of a number of them. Who wouldn't like to be a good melee or ranged warrior but at the same time spend some time every now and then in the town to pick locks and pockets, for example? I still remember picking 1 gold at a time from a guy with 100 or even more gold just to get more jolly exp. out of the process in Fallout xD

I just don't like the "stick to this road that I am pointing you to; or else you will end up underpowered sooner or later" approach. A game should allow you to enjoy more than one aspect of it without necessarily punishing you for doing so.
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Post by: WarLord on October 18, 2015, 12:33:51 pm
In.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Tibe on October 18, 2015, 03:35:00 pm
Lol I gave up like a pussy and just used a trainer to get skillpoints. 2 hrdcore 4 me  :lol:

No, it wasnt about hardcore. It actually just pains me so much that how little 1 character does. The deal is imo that when you go to another town, its basically the "pass time" action. Which means all events and quests you didnt do will autoresolve and the events will unfold without you. And the amount of events you simply cant do with 1 playthrough is close to 95%. In its main theme the game is basically all about you picking the correct events, which you can do and try to not jump in the ones you probably wouldnt come out alive from. There isnt even any questions about builds or skillpoint distibutions that have a point. You just go for 1-3 things to (almost) max out, pick situations you think those skills could come in handy and thats it.

Im not saying its bad, its just not what im used to in games. Again, i would have liked a difficulty setting. :?
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Voncrow on October 18, 2015, 07:46:34 pm
Quote from: Duster on October 18, 2015, 12:07:00 pm
Just got to the second town, I am roleplaying a conniving jew merchant. The game is quite fun if you avoid the combat system, which I found incredibly difficult and random.

The combat is really punishing, you'll either be fighting mobs who will lynch your ass or against a fighter much more skilled than you. To survive you have to build your character around two skills and certain attributes. And even then you have to play using tactics that reinforce your build under the current situation. Some times your best chance at winning is zerg rushing the weak ones in a mob and sometimes it's better to fall back and try to find a choke point. My dagger character has many times barely survived because I ran away in a circle around the entire map slowly killing off the enemy that separated themselves trying to catch me. Other times I rushed into the middle to to get as many counters and strike off them as soon as possible to cut them down. Sometimes to win a fight your best chance is literally to use equipment. Buy bombs and Molotov's to use against the opponents you can't take down. But yeah you can usually afford to have one primary skill, 2 secondary and maybe a fourth novice skill if you want to risk it. That being said you need to build your character right from the start and be careful. Unless you built a guy exclusively to kill stuff, you want to avoid some fights. I know I've been fights I've only won by reloading and getting really good rolls. But back on topic of combat, each battle is best avoided unless you really want to fight, and then you have to really consider your choices and play tactically.

Also you can build to be a jack of all trades, you just have to meta game a little to know exactly what skill levels you need in what categories and kind of avoid most combat. But that's extreme amounts of metagame we're talking about and kind of ruins the purpose.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Tibe on October 19, 2015, 09:10:53 am
Played this a bit now. Etiquette, trade and lockpick seem like the most unneeded skills. Impersonation somehow does the same thing as persuation, but somehow is a lot more required and checked imo than persuation. When you start a game persuation seems like the decent choice, but nah.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Voncrow on October 19, 2015, 04:37:53 pm
Trade is really only used in the trader line. Persuasion can get you out of a lot of nearly impossible fights and give you some wicked cred if use right. As far as I know, persuasion is probably the most important cs for combat characters. But civil characters usually need to focus on other cs for their storyline.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Siiem on October 19, 2015, 08:22:09 pm
Quote from: Voncrow on October 19, 2015, 04:37:53 pm
Trade is really only used in the trader line. Persuasion can get you out of a lot of nearly impossible fights and give you some wicked cred if use right. As far as I know, persuasion is probably the most important cs for combat characters. But civil characters usually need to focus on other cs for their storyline.

Trader/Pers is not THAT uncommon of a combo. Then again, if your charisma is low you get quite large penalties on talking.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Angantyr on October 20, 2015, 03:31:40 pm
Quote from: Leshma on October 17, 2015, 08:34:51 pm
You can't be jack of all trades in old Fallout or any other classic cRPG. Jack of all trades crap came with Elder Scrolls series where you can level everything to the max. Whole idea of RPG is to pick a role and stick with it, not to be one size fits everything type of character. Having limited points to assign to abilities and skills is one of cornerstones of RPG genre.
I agree Bethesda games are generally ridiculous in this respect but you can make crazy all-round characters in Fallout 2 aswell. Only put skill points in skills you can't buy skill books for and you can max every skill. Then with Gifted, some implants, powered armor (not even necessary use leather jacket or combat armor for appearance), and free ability points from quests you will also be able to have a very, very high average ability score. And the level cap is 99.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Dezilagel on October 20, 2015, 08:00:20 pm
After failing a bunch of times I talked my way through the game. Kinda.

Spoilers!

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The game is cool anyway, but the engine seems to be made out of wet tissue stitched together with prayer and hope (innumerable crashes) and the questlines were very easily broken (a lot of stuff during my playthrough made no sense at all as a consequence). I don't know, maybe I was playing it wrong. It feels like there's a great game here, but for me it was mostly a really weird experience. Great lore/world though.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Vovka on October 20, 2015, 09:03:03 pm
finished the first chapter of all possible characters, with all possible outcomes (or not) ... It is very interesting when the stories are intertwined and you realize what you were gullible idiot)
gonna hack character skills.... and set it all to 10....
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Voncrow on October 21, 2015, 01:17:32 am
Quote from: Vovka on October 20, 2015, 09:03:03 pm
finished the first chapter of all possible characters, with all possible outcomes (or not) ... It is very interesting when the stories are intertwined and you realize what you were gullible idiot)
gonna hack character skills.... and set it all to 10....

Funny part is you'll probably still die most the time.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Vovka on October 21, 2015, 11:44:46 am
not exactly what I wanted, apparently it happens when you try to edit save)))

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Post by: Gnjus on October 21, 2015, 01:10:31 pm
Quote from: Vovka on October 21, 2015, 11:44:46 am
not exactly what I wanted, apparently it happens when you try to edit save)))

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Your skill level in this game is the same as in crpg.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Vovka on October 21, 2015, 02:51:53 pm
Quote from: Gnjus on October 21, 2015, 01:10:31 pm
Your skill level in this game is the same as in crpg.
These two games are not skillbased, so I can live with it  :o
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on October 21, 2015, 05:53:21 pm
Fuck that scimitar bullshit spam arena champion. It's like I can't get crpg out of my life even if I want to.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Duster on October 22, 2015, 01:49:13 am
Quote from: enigmatic_stranger on October 21, 2015, 05:53:21 pm
Fuck that scimitar bullshit spam arena champion. It's like I can't get crpg out of my life even if I want to.

The 2 DOTs that take all of your health.... just why...
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Tibe on October 22, 2015, 08:35:20 am
Quote from: enigmatic_stranger on October 21, 2015, 05:53:21 pm
Fuck that scimitar bullshit spam arena champion. It's like I can't get crpg out of my life even if I want to.

Even with a cheating character with maxed out everything I still died like 8 times.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Vovka on October 22, 2015, 01:40:13 pm
Quote from: Tibe on October 22, 2015, 08:35:20 am
Even with a cheating character with maxed out everything I still died like 8 times.
only if u are not the chosen one

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most of the hits i block with a buckler 
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Post by: Siiem on October 22, 2015, 07:45:33 pm
Quote from: enigmatic_stranger on October 21, 2015, 05:53:21 pm
Fuck that scimitar bullshit spam arena champion. It's like I can't get crpg out of my life even if I want to.

Spears skill with krakspear or what its name is. Kill him without ever beeing touched xD
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on October 23, 2015, 07:30:08 pm
Finished the game for the first time. Tried to kill as many as possible.
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Post by: Bjord on November 02, 2015, 10:24:19 am
AHHH downloading this and trying it as soon as I get home.  :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Gatsby on November 02, 2015, 10:36:20 am
This game is awesome, i'm in my third run and still can't have enough.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Angantyr on November 02, 2015, 01:02:31 pm
Yeah, great, consequence-heavy RPG, meant for several playthroughs. I really like aethestics of the post-apocalyptic Roman setting, environments, gear etc. the turn-based combat (with the Fallout 2-ish aimed attacks we missed in Wasteland 2), interesting dialogue options, constant skill checks, lethal combat etc.

My first character was a streetwise mercenary, who joined the Imperial Legion after earning his coin from back alley knifings, mainly a combat character. My second and my current character is a mainly civic skills Praetor who acts as an enforcer for a great family, basically a high etiquette gangster in praetorian armor lying, murdering, double crossing and extorting people, a really enjoyable story line so far, and I've managed to completely avoid combat on this one, except for some conversation choices like 'slit the merchants throat' etc.
Title: Re: Age of Decadence - Post Apocalyptic Roman Empire RPG
Post by: Gatsby on November 03, 2015, 10:20:24 am
It's time for me to play as Loremaster, i wanna discover all the hidden story an lore in the game, meanwhile my merc
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p.s. it's an actual spoiler  :D