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Title: Political compass thread
Post by: Tore on November 30, 2014, 09:37:28 pm
http://www.politicalcompass.org/test (http://www.politicalcompass.org/test)

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ITT: we downboat people who doesn't have the same opinions as us

shit test im not a commie wtf
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Moncho on November 30, 2014, 09:52:00 pm
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Apparently I'm near the Dalai Lama and Mahatma. Prepare to get nuked!
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: WarLord on November 30, 2014, 09:54:08 pm
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haha ... wtf ... thing is broken  :lol:
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Utrakil on November 30, 2014, 09:55:15 pm
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being with Gandi is a good thing i guess  :D
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Kafein on November 30, 2014, 09:56:34 pm
FREEDOM

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haha ... wtf ... thing is broken  :lol:

Seems typical of euroskeptic trash

Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Franke on November 30, 2014, 09:57:22 pm
Doesn't display the graph for me, crap test.

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: WarLord on November 30, 2014, 09:57:57 pm
FREEDOM

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Seems typical of euroskeptic trash

I'm not euro-skeptical at all  :P

Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: [ptx] on November 30, 2014, 10:03:20 pm
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How do you even get Right aligned?

Since when Right alignment == MegaCorp love?
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Molly on November 30, 2014, 10:05:58 pm
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Dezilagel on November 30, 2014, 10:10:15 pm
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Did this like 2 years before and it hasn't changed much
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Umbra on November 30, 2014, 10:11:42 pm
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Though i would be more centre.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Kafein on November 30, 2014, 10:25:54 pm
I'm not euro-skeptical at all  :P

Weren't you and wayyyne afraid of brown people and unhappy about the EU's commitment to people circulating freely?

Since when Right alignment == MegaCorp love?

Right alignment equals unregulated economy. It doesn't necessarily mean megacorp love, but the questions make it look like it does. In fact many regulations are in favor of megacorps and make life harder for smaller businesses. I'm not all that much on the right on this spectrum because I believe markets should be ruled by governments or not based on market characteristics. Natural monopolies (energy, water, telecoms, public transportation...) should not be private because there's really no point gifting the monopolistic rent to a few individuals when society as a whole could profit from that. That's economics 101. Furthermore, those markets often have a lot of ecological impact, hence they should be democratically managed.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Tore on November 30, 2014, 10:35:51 pm
brown people

wow racis
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: lombardsoup on November 30, 2014, 11:23:44 pm
Downboats for lombard, he's an evil righty who's surprisingly middle of the road on social issues

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Taser on November 30, 2014, 11:29:56 pm
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Christo on December 01, 2014, 12:12:26 am
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Apparently I'm near the Dalai Lama and Mahatma. Prepare to get nuked!

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I always end up in this spectrum as well when I take this test.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Algarn on December 01, 2014, 12:27:04 am
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I expected to be more authoritarian, since I believe some people are simply too dumb to vote, and removing /changing the way democracy works for the good of everyone should be the way to go in my humble opinion.

I remember that guy that said that the main argument against democracy is a 5 minute long dialog with the basic voter.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: SixThumbs on December 01, 2014, 12:30:27 am
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I mostly have an attitude of indifference about most of these issues, they're out of my hands, but the multi-nationals owning plant genetics from other countries had me incredulous that's debatable and tried to come up with a situation where I would think that's ok. Although, I imagine some people feel that way about religion, gay-rights, abortion, etc.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Xant on December 01, 2014, 12:33:32 am
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I mostly have an attitude of indifference about most of these issues, they're out of my hands, but the multi-nationals owning plant genetics from other countries had me incredulous that's debatable and tried to come up with a situation where I would think that's ok. Although, I imagine some people feel that way about religion, gay-rights, abortion, etc.
Yes, I didn't think these questions were too good. I answered "disagree" to every question where it said stuff like "duty", "right", "expected", since I don't consider anyone entitled to anything at all, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't still want it to be so, were I the one making that decision.

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 01, 2014, 12:33:56 am
too lazy to take the 6 page test, but i consider myself right/libertarian leaning
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Taser on December 01, 2014, 12:37:08 am
too lazy to take the 6 page test, but i consider myself right/libertarian leaning

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There you go.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: LordBerenger on December 01, 2014, 12:40:40 am
These tests are too derpy and contain too few questions.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: darmaster on December 01, 2014, 01:42:44 am
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Did this like 2 years before and it hasn't changed much

well you're still a my old friend and that graphic proves it
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Miwiw on December 01, 2014, 02:32:30 am
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great questions.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: LordBerenger on December 01, 2014, 04:31:47 am
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great questions.

I did natzee that coming.

Also wheres Panos
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Sparvico on December 01, 2014, 07:05:34 am
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Though honestly I feel had there been more/better questions I would have been on the authoritarian side. The test was not terribly inclusive of all possibilities.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Jeade on December 01, 2014, 09:08:56 am
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Vovka on December 01, 2014, 09:52:44 am
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stupid questions and the test result depends on the author's view of the world.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Umbra on December 01, 2014, 09:55:06 am
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Vovka on December 01, 2014, 10:03:43 am
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nope its mostly like "Star Ratings" in internet shop:

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: FleetFox on December 01, 2014, 10:06:35 am
Haha Tore awesome you posted this, this is the site we got given by our lecturer last year :D

Really really promising to see so many Left Libertarians here, that means so far this community is truly great :D

I myself am almost in the bottom left corner very left libertarian ^^
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Torost on December 01, 2014, 10:15:06 am
Me thinks that this test is skewed towards placing 80% of test participants as some kind of liberalist.

where they put the "good guys" Dalai Llama, nelson mandela etc...


Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Dezilagel on December 01, 2014, 10:22:46 am
well you're still a my old friend and that graphic proves it

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Kafein on December 01, 2014, 11:06:24 am
Me thinks that this test is skewed towards placing 80% of test participants as some kind of liberalist.

where they put the "good guys" Dalai Llama, nelson mandela etc...

I don't really understand how the dalai lama can be considered a libertarian given his extremely reactionary stances on anything sexual. Surely he's against state meddling in individual affairs, but if the religion does it it's a-okay.

Other than that, the fact that the good guys are libertarians only makes sense, when the test conspicuously ignores questions that are not complete strawmen (should two consenting adults be allowed to do anything in the bedroom? I mean seriously what kind of moron would say no...). There are a lot of tougher questions on the libertarian/authoritarian scale, such as those related to ecology. The security vs civil liberties ones are again complete strawmen, and anyone not scoring libertarian on these is either insane or living in neo-con wonderland.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Kafein on December 01, 2014, 11:23:47 am
You mean you think that because they both consent they should be allowed to dabble in germ warfare or necromancy?

Sure it sounds reasonable now, but a 'yes' means they can do *anything*!

germ warfare... you mean sex?
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Kafein on December 01, 2014, 11:36:31 am
What the fuck, write a book or something
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Moncho on December 01, 2014, 11:37:29 am
HESKEY, do you realise that the whole of that page relates to sex and the header specifically says:
Finally, a look at sex.
Page 6 of 6

But yeah sure, germ warfare truly is sex... And a dead person cannot consent so necromancy does not fit within those rules...

Anyway, the whole test is fairly skewed, and something else is what people believe vs what we would actually do if we were unfortunately in power... but yet again in Diplomacy 3 I always end up in that area, even when I start with the US or some other country that starts far away...
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Kafein on December 01, 2014, 11:40:22 am
HESKEY, do you realise that the whole of that page relates to sex and the header specifically says:
Finally, a look at sex.
Page 6 of 6

But yeah sure, germ warfare truly is sex... And a dead person cannot consent so necromancy does not fit within those rules...

Anyway, the whole test is fairly skewed, and something else is what people believe vs what we would actually do if we were unfortunately in power... but yet again in Diplomacy 3 I always end up in that area, even when I start with the US or some other country that starts far away...

I can't into political introspection with Democracy 3, I always roleplay somebody with extreme views, and it always ends up working. In that sense the game doesn't accurately reflect actual politics and economics.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Moncho on December 01, 2014, 11:50:24 am
I can't into political introspection with Democracy 3, I always roleplay somebody with extreme views, and it always ends up working. In that sense the game doesn't accurately reflect actual politics and economics.
Oh yeah the extreme runs are fun, but the once or twice that I have done it remotely similarly to how I would actually do it that has happened. IRL I wouldn't have lasted a couple of weeks in office
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Algarn on December 01, 2014, 12:09:23 pm
Thing is, most political programs would work in theory. Ex, communism is working with small communities (10 to 500 persons), but not working at all with big ones, because there will always be shitheads ready to abuse the system, and it gives something like USSR, with no rights at all, massive collectivism, massive propanganda and brain washing... Actually sad that humans are deeply egoistic beings, otherwise, a lot of things would be possible.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Teeth on December 01, 2014, 12:58:41 pm
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Pretty much what I expected after I did the questions, not entirely what I expected when I first saw the scales.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Overdriven on December 01, 2014, 01:35:06 pm
I ended up on the left libertarian side as well which isn't where I'd put myself.

Questions were bad though.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: naduril on December 01, 2014, 01:45:55 pm
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Like many others here
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: LordBerenger on December 01, 2014, 03:17:57 pm
nope its mostly like "Star Ratings" in internet shop:

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Vovka on December 01, 2014, 03:28:33 pm
Should be red stars
they are red, you're just brainwashed victim of propaganda  :P
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: LordBerenger on December 01, 2014, 03:35:23 pm
they are red, you're just brainwashed victim of propaganda  :P

U r a disgrace to Stalin!

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Sparvico on December 01, 2014, 05:51:42 pm
U r a disgrace to Stalin!

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FTFY
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: FleetFox on December 01, 2014, 07:01:17 pm
I ended up on the left libertarian side as well which isn't where I'd put myself.

Questions were bad though.

There is hope for you yet mate ;) And yep the questions arn't the best, just good for a rough basis.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: njames89 on December 02, 2014, 05:05:14 pm
Cool test. Answered pretty much how I expected.

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Jeade on December 02, 2014, 11:28:14 pm
You beautiful, liberal motherfuckers are bringing a tear to my eye.
Look at all of you, you beautiful bastards.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Grumbs on December 02, 2014, 11:38:57 pm
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I get the impression the questions aren't completely neutral and stear people towards left/libertarian
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: lombardsoup on December 02, 2014, 11:42:12 pm
I get the impression the questions aren't completely neutral and steer people towards left/libertarian

This
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on December 03, 2014, 12:22:27 am
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 03, 2014, 12:56:51 am
decided to actually take it.

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I get the impression the questions aren't completely neutral and stear people towards left/libertarian

^^^^
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Algarn on December 03, 2014, 01:03:18 am
I'm going to get some hate, but I noticed that every player from USA that posted their compass did tend more or less to right wing. Only one canadian posted, tho...

Also, what the fuck Obama is doing there ?
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Grumbs on December 03, 2014, 01:12:38 am
Obama isn't some lefty commie just because hes the opposition to the Republicans. American politics tends to be pretty far right but they argue over who is more right than the other. Where would you expect Obama to be placed?
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Algarn on December 03, 2014, 01:18:15 am
Around center to be honest. I know Americans are scared by communism since cold war, but really, I didn't expected at all Obama to be far right.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Ikarus on December 03, 2014, 01:43:09 am
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interesting, cause I never really thought about if I was "left" or "right"
oh well, so much for my WW3 plans, better start knitting my own clothes now  :D
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Kalam on December 03, 2014, 01:53:41 am
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Seems rather simplistic, but anything that gets people seriously thinking about how they are governed is good.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on December 03, 2014, 04:13:21 am
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo on December 03, 2014, 06:43:10 am
I was expecting to be further left, but higher on the authority scale.

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on December 03, 2014, 09:07:58 am
Stupid like all of these tests, there are so many questions where it depends on so many factors if I agree or not or questions that just don't interest me. Or a question like this:

"A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system." Of course it is an advantage - doesn't mean it's a better system.

anyway wasted my time with it:

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Andswaru on December 03, 2014, 09:18:11 am
Too expand a little more on what bloody said about the test been basically moronic, there was a question about theaters and art galleries and weather or not they are deserving of public funding. Its a stupid question to be honest especially given the generalisation made in it. Alot of those galleries, theaters and museums are in old expensive to maintain buildings that actually make the experience along side what they house inside, at least in my view.

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: FleetFox on December 03, 2014, 10:18:09 am
I'm going to get some hate, but I noticed that every player from USA that posted their compass did tend more or less to right wing. Only one canadian posted, tho...

Also, what the fuck Obama is doing there ?
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Its very important to note that is not where those individuals place themselves, they are plotted on the chart by the website people who gauge each person from what they say on the TV and what they write.

So as we all know, modern politics is all about keeping the party line, saying the things the party wants you to say, so they may not be veru accurate for what the actual individual feels inside. IMO Obama personally would be more left Libertarian as he was a Human Rights Lawyer before hand which says a lot.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 03, 2014, 12:19:21 pm
Fuckin liberals

Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Xant on December 03, 2014, 12:58:37 pm
Seems like everyone gets pretty much the same. Proves the test is retarded.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Miwiw on December 03, 2014, 01:45:12 pm
green scums

ya, we 2 and another guy are in the blue corner! high five  :lol:
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Admerius on December 03, 2014, 02:59:21 pm
Extremist - Leftist, very Libertarian.

hmm... somehow I believe that the gut response(2-5 sec per question) makes most(all?) people more left/libertarian leaning than they would be, I'll post later again with ell thought through answer(30 sec-5 min per question)

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Edit1: Revisited the site and did it again making sure to interpret the questions in the direction that the poll makers clearly didn't intend them to be interpreted:
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Algarn on December 03, 2014, 03:02:07 pm
Extremist - Leftist, very Libertarian.

hmm... somehow I believe that the gut response(2-5 sec per question) makes most(all?) people more left/libertarian leaning than they would be, I'll post later again with ell thought through answer(30 sec-5 min per question)

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Dat left  :shock:
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on December 03, 2014, 03:25:27 pm
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Molly on December 03, 2014, 04:16:38 pm
[...]especially when one of my lecturers is extremist communism and starts flashing his party membership card the first time I met him
So much potential for heated discussions in a pub in the evening...
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: darmaster on December 03, 2014, 04:27:04 pm
fucking communists, wrong people at the right place. I mean, left.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Admerius on December 03, 2014, 04:33:50 pm
Dat left  :shock:

I blame it on CIV4, I played 200hour Giant earth map game and had 100% luxuries rate at the end... conquered the world "for the betterment of mankind" so I'm kind of an utopian in principle but in practice I'm much more of a cynical pragmatist.

Example:
"It is morally wrong to eat babies"

Quick "pub/workplace" answer: Strongly Agree

Detailed "proper" answer: Strongly Disagree
Context! What moral framework? Can something be "wrong" at all, or just "more or less wrong" compared to something else? This blanket statement is a crude generalization that doesn't portray the real world, only some ideal platonic world of ideas, therefore Strongly disagree to such a crude and poorly formulated statement.

Update1:
Detailed "proper" answer:
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Vovka on December 03, 2014, 07:00:29 pm
Update1:
Detailed "proper" answer:
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Xant on December 03, 2014, 07:21:54 pm
I'm surprised at how many lefties there are in the community. Thought there woulda been a relatively balanced mix.

Personally I dislike all politics (although i'm kinda studying it at university) especially when one of my lecturers is extremist communism and starts flashing his party membership card the first time I met him
This test is not an accurate representation. It claims me, Dalai Lama and Nelson Mandela have similar political views. Nooooope.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: darmaster on December 03, 2014, 07:37:08 pm
the test is fake, mandela and chavez died, they couldn't take the test
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Leshma on December 03, 2014, 07:52:24 pm
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DKG_Leshma
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Jeade on December 03, 2014, 10:53:07 pm
Context! What moral framework? Can something be "wrong" at all, or just "more or less wrong" compared to something else? This blanket statement is a crude generalization that doesn't portray the real world, only some ideal platonic world of ideas, therefore Strongly disagree to such a crude and poorly formulated statement.

Good question! Depends if you're taking the test from an ethical or moral perspective.
Since most people are probably answering with subconsciously embedded culture-specific morality, I think it's feasible to say something is "wrong" or "somewhat wrong" or vice versa.
I'd say you're looking at it from an ethical standpoint if you're considering ideals.

As a utilitarian, I strongly believe it's best to throw ideals to the wind and focus on the realities of life; normative ethics don't give a fuck about ideals.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: SixThumbs on December 03, 2014, 11:02:26 pm
I was hoping mine would turn out like this:

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Algarn on December 03, 2014, 11:06:17 pm
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DKG_Leshma

Did you even answered to questions seriously ?
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on December 03, 2014, 11:08:12 pm
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Latvian on December 03, 2014, 11:26:43 pm
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according this i am pretty much Alexis Tsipras
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: darmaster on December 04, 2014, 02:33:06 am
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according this i am pretty much Alexis Tsipras

we need trotskijs not tsipras
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Post by: Berserkadin on December 04, 2014, 10:09:14 am
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: FleetFox on December 04, 2014, 10:25:34 am

I'm surprised at how many lefties there are in the community. Thought there woulda been a relatively balanced mix.
Personally I dislike all politics (although i'm kinda studying it at university) especially when one of my lecturers is extremist communism and starts flashing his party membership card the first time I met him

So much potential for heated discussions in a pub in the evening...

Many of my Lecturers and PhD students are Anarchists, also makes for some very stimulating discussions :)
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: sF_Guardian on December 04, 2014, 04:23:41 pm
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Went about as expected.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: BASNAK on December 04, 2014, 04:25:14 pm
So many librarians in this forum. Authors ftw.

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Thryn on December 04, 2014, 05:04:01 pm
Im on my phone just to see if ppl will hate me for my graph

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: FleetFox on December 04, 2014, 07:21:58 pm
Im on my phone just to see if ppl will hate me for my graph

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There is always time for you to come to the light side mate :)
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Voncrow on December 04, 2014, 09:30:09 pm
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There is always time for you to come to the light side mate :)
You mean the right side right?
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Miwiw on December 04, 2014, 11:09:54 pm
There is always time for you to come to the light side mate :)

the left side is death, bad hurtie hurtful dark death. not good. Come to the right side, we got alcohol.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Algarn on December 05, 2014, 01:00:33 am
Correlation drawn between Right/left and color of chess unit : if you're white, you're probably right winged ! :lol:
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Thryn on December 05, 2014, 01:35:46 am
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 05, 2014, 03:53:55 am
Correlation drawn between Right/left and color of chess unit : if you're white, you're probably right winged ! :lol:

And if your black, your probably shot, left!
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Talanarsis on December 05, 2014, 04:28:07 am
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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 05, 2014, 04:40:14 am
Lol blue my old friend ^^^^^^^

Purple masterace
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Talanarsis on December 05, 2014, 04:50:50 am
Lol blue my old friend ^^^^^^^

Purple masterace

Purple master race? Pff, go hump a stump liberal scum
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Sharpe on December 05, 2014, 05:23:01 am
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Gandhi is my homeboy
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: darmaster on December 05, 2014, 05:36:43 am
took the test today, test is broken
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: FleetFox on December 05, 2014, 04:43:23 pm
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You mean the right side right?

No I mean the left libertarian side of course :)
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on December 05, 2014, 05:04:43 pm
Interesting to see how many others are about on the same line as me.

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Umbra on December 05, 2014, 05:34:07 pm
You are all my old friends.

Wait, im a my old friend too, fuck.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: FleetFox on December 05, 2014, 06:29:57 pm
Nice Cock

Here is me:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-9.50&soc=-6.87 (http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-9.50&soc=-6.87)

For most of the questions I don't mess about, its either strongly agree or strongly disagree (hence how far left I am for example).
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on December 05, 2014, 06:48:16 pm
I guess that is the closest to me by far. Most results are a few more to the right in the leftist pane.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Kalam on December 05, 2014, 09:52:14 pm
You are all my old friends.

Wait, im a my old friend too, fuck.

This sounds like a win-win situation for all of us.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: lombardsoup on December 05, 2014, 09:58:39 pm
You are all my old friends.

Wait, im a my old friend too, fuck.

Too homo, I'm out
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Moncho on December 06, 2014, 12:22:56 am
Too homo, I'm out
If only that were actually true...
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Bulzur on December 06, 2014, 12:50:21 am
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.28


I don't know what category of political of person it makes me, to be too lazy to print the image and instead just gives the number.
And i do consider myself more right than left, but thoses questions were really... formulmated in such a way with "big corporation" and the like, that i just became a left economic man.

I'm also surprised at the social libertarian, feeling more authoritarian (specifically about the death sentence and the uselessness of tryting to rehabilitate some of the criminals). But again, some pretty obvious liberal questions where you just can't go full authoritarian makes me a social libertarian.


So overall, this test gives pretty inaccurate results.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Kafein on December 06, 2014, 03:10:21 pm
Like I said, the test makes almost all economic questions about big corporations and almost all lib/auth questions about security and bigotry. A lot of strawmen and only a few really interesting questions. I consider myself a neo-liberal economist kind of guy but that isn't reflected in the test because it keeps asking the wrong questions.

Let's make this more interesting by looking at individual questions. What did you guys answer to "It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product." ? I answered that I don't agree because I buy food, so why should I not buy water? While it's true that in many real cases today, running water is being managed horribly by private companies due to retarded leasing conditions by lazy local powers, bottled water really is a free market and works quite well. It does make a lot of sense to avoid bottled water due to ecological and economical concerns though.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on December 06, 2014, 04:24:59 pm
It's always good to have choices such as buying clean and bottled water. On the other hand, it is quite sad that we have to buy bottled water so that we can safely drink it. In my childhood, about let's say 20 years ago, paying for water was a fundamentally retarded idea, because the tap water was clean as hell and local as well as central governments cared about keeping it that way. You could simply get yourself a glass of water from any tap in sight and you wouldn't have to worry about it one bit.

Nowadays, what used to be perceived as a basic human right (having access to potable water) has become something to sell and I can't for the life of me acknowledge this horrible truth. Terrible management of water has caused groundwater to go deeper and unreachable, while we are hearing news stories about the capital of my country getting tap water as dirty as sewage. Even in my relatively untouched and remote hometown, water shortages keep occurring frequently and the water isn't clean anymore. Also in the same place, you can see water bottling firms placing "Not potable, contains bacteria" signposts at natural spring water sources, because the buggers want people to keep away from them so that they can use them for their own good when necessary (I got lab results, the water is totally clean at said points).

Even in a water-rich country like Turkey, this has happened. Hundreds of small streams were leased to private firms (multinational and local) for as long periods as 50 years. I am waiting for the times they will sell us our own water when things get a lot uglier.

Yeah, I know this has turned into a wall of text, but I am deeply troubled with this water issue. Water should never be a commodity. It should be managed properly and delivered to beneficiaries in clean and potable form. It was possible in the past. Why can't it be now?
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Tovi on December 06, 2014, 04:44:25 pm
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Another one... (and exactly the same as Xant, my friend)
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on December 06, 2014, 05:46:52 pm
Another one... (and exactly the same as Xant, my friend)

 :D nice proof of how significant this test is...
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Taser on December 07, 2014, 05:28:03 am
It's always good to have choices such as buying clean and bottled water. On the other hand, it is quite sad that we have to buy bottled water so that we can safely drink it. In my childhood, about let's say 20 years ago, paying for water was a fundamentally retarded idea, because the tap water was clean as hell and local as well as central governments cared about keeping it that way. You could simply get yourself a glass of water from any tap in sight and you wouldn't have to worry about it one bit.

Nowadays, what used to be perceived as a basic human right (having access to potable water) has become something to sell and I can't for the life of me acknowledge this horrible truth. Terrible management of water has caused groundwater to go deeper and unreachable, while we are hearing news stories about the capital of my country getting tap water as dirty as sewage. Even in my relatively untouched and remote hometown, water shortages keep occurring frequently and the water isn't clean anymore. Also in the same place, you can see water bottling firms placing "Not potable, contains bacteria" signposts at natural spring water sources, because the buggers want people to keep away from them so that they can use them for their own good when necessary (I got lab results, the water is totally clean at said points).

Even in a water-rich country like Turkey, this has happened. Hundreds of small streams were leased to private firms (multinational and local) for as long periods as 50 years. I am waiting for the times they will sell us our own water when things get a lot uglier.

Yeah, I know this has turned into a wall of text, but I am deeply troubled with this water issue. Water should never be a commodity. It should be managed properly and delivered to beneficiaries in clean and potable form. It was possible in the past. Why can't it be now?

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on December 07, 2014, 07:05:28 am
buying bottled water to me should be viewed like a convenience or luxury, someone had to pump it out of the ground, cleanse it for you, bottle it, and ship it to you.  If you dont want to pay for the service, then fucking do it yourself.  If this is too much to ask, well then i dont know what to tell you, be a leech and go to a mcdonalds and sip from the bathroom sinks...

Most homes either have their own wells, which are cheap, or you have local water pumped from aquifers.  My water bill for a month is only 15 dollars so.......


Now if we are talking about countries which are less then privileged, i guess my point is rather moot.  I can honestly only share an opinion from somewhere where every residence and structure has access to completely clean water, and therefore bottled water is what it is, a convenience.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on December 07, 2014, 05:20:33 pm
Basically we are saying the same thing. Let there be bottled water for convenience and for those who would like to have that convenience, but let's prevent water from being a total commercial commodity. That is my opinion in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Micah on December 07, 2014, 06:15:09 pm
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Pretty boring and as expected, i know :s

I like this discussion quite alot that spawned from this pretty silly test ;)

Bottled water, well ... sure its a sad reflection of current society, compared to an ecological ideal situation ... yet, on the other hand, giving water a nice price tag, makes it appear to be worth more than it is/was percieved until now ... so .. im all in favor to make really expensive water bottles .. and alot of it and restrict free water use ... good way to make people not take everything for granted ;)
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Grumbs on December 07, 2014, 06:38:56 pm

I'm not convinced the people who buy bottled water aren't simply buying it instead of some other bottled drink. In that case I don't really see much harm done. People that buy bottled water for use at home though are probably just a drain on the environment
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Tovi on December 07, 2014, 09:28:05 pm
Well, I buy sometime water bottles when its acidity is close to rain water (pH=6), few minerals and no Chlorine, no Nitrate. Some spring waters are like this.
Ok it's not ecologicaly correct, but it's healthier (for me).
In my new house I have a well now. So, fuck you all.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Kalam on December 07, 2014, 09:59:25 pm
I'm not convinced the people who buy bottled water aren't simply buying it instead of some other bottled drink. In that case I don't really see much harm done. People that buy bottled water for use at home though are probably just a drain on the environment

Cost of new filters over here is slightly more per month than bottled water if the household is drinking at least 1 gallon/day. However, it's still convenience that's the driving factor, like anything else to do with the environment.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Kirman on December 08, 2014, 08:33:58 pm
Hmmm... Fuck you Erdogan?

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Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 09, 2014, 04:59:23 am
Marie Antoinette said "Let them eat cake" when informed that the peasants didnt have any bread.

i say, If there isnt enough bottled water for the poor...
Let them Drink beer!
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Kafein on December 09, 2014, 05:54:31 pm
Marie Antoinette said "Let them eat cake" when informed that the peasants didnt have any bread.

i say, If there isnt enough bottled water for the poor...
Let them Drink beer!

Yeah... she didn't. I'm fun at parties.
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: Thryn on December 10, 2014, 01:53:12 pm
i remember when harun said "im fun at parties"

it was much better than this moment

+0
Title: Re: Political compass thread
Post by: _schizo321437 on January 24, 2015, 02:10:11 am
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