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Title: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring favorite crpg era poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 23, 2014, 08:03:44 pm
This is my new CRPG Statistics Thread! I put up polls, you vote in them! I'll catalog the results and do some other fun stuff when I'm bored and have nothing to do. Participate in the system now, one of us, one of us, one of us...


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More polls soon, so stay tuned!
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: sF_Guardian on October 23, 2014, 08:05:02 pm
54
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on October 23, 2014, 08:13:51 pm
0 or more  :D
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: Voncrow on October 23, 2014, 08:15:04 pm
0 or more  :D

Some people are buff enough to fight in their birthday suits.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: Hirlok on October 23, 2014, 08:19:22 pm
32, you fatties.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: Taser on October 23, 2014, 08:21:45 pm
Technically everyone can answer 0 or more. Might want to make it 0-10, 10-20, etc if you're actually going to try and use the data.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: Voncrow on October 23, 2014, 08:25:02 pm
Technically everyone can answer 0 or more. Might want to make it 0-10, 10-20, etc if you're actually going to try and use the data.

This is one reason I suck at programming.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: Moncho on October 23, 2014, 08:35:17 pm
52 or 16. 16 is white tunic + +3 Mail Gauntlets, 52 with +3 White tunic over mail, I use both often so don't know which to pick. Also rarely 67 with +3 white transitional, but that is often dusty on an armory.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: Algarn on October 23, 2014, 08:37:12 pm
46 (as archer).
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: Taser on October 23, 2014, 08:45:59 pm
This is one reason I suck at programming.

It seems like people are following what you meant though. Didn't mean to rain on your parade.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: Tanken on October 23, 2014, 08:49:58 pm
I heard that your c-RPG Body armor x 4 is your real life weight.

That means...

oh fuck.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: Weren on October 23, 2014, 09:16:21 pm
11
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: Nehvar on October 23, 2014, 09:38:56 pm
56 if my internet is serviceable.  70 if I'm rubber-banding frequently.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on October 23, 2014, 09:46:38 pm
Some people are buff enough to fight in there birthday suits.

erm, it is 57 body armour which is more than 0...

ah, now you have adjusted the poll.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on October 23, 2014, 11:02:38 pm
Your scale doesn't go high enough brah, needs a bit of work brah.

Mine is 79 ;) (on my main)

So according to Tankin I'm 316, only a hundred pounds off...
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: Voncrow on October 23, 2014, 11:50:31 pm
May change poll once we reached 100, greater amount of participation than I expected. Good show guys, good show.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on October 24, 2014, 12:30:10 am
I play 4-5 characters just about equally, including my strat hero. They have completely different builds and armor values and items etc. How do i enter this data into your poll?
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: njames89 on October 24, 2014, 12:43:16 am
70 body armor here  :twisted:
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: Voncrow on October 24, 2014, 12:50:33 am
I play 4-5 characters just about equally, including my strat hero. They have completely different builds and armor values and items etc. How do i enter this data into your poll?

create an average, your strat hero, or your favorite character. Take your pick.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: Kalp on October 24, 2014, 09:20:43 am
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Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: Umbra on October 24, 2014, 10:28:59 am
4 atm, probably going to be 7-8
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll
Post by: Bjord on October 24, 2014, 12:13:08 pm
56 if my internet is serviceable.  70 if I'm rubber-banding frequently.

I know this pain well...
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 24, 2014, 02:17:16 pm
Interesting, I expected it to have a larger base around zero and 8+. I wonder what it'll be like when NA clocks in.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: Algarn on October 24, 2014, 06:09:11 pm
More than half of the voters got more than 6 IF. That's huge if you combine the fact they all use 60 body armor.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: To Kill A Dead Horse on October 24, 2014, 06:19:40 pm
IF: 7

Average of my armor usage: (43+68)/2= 55.5

56 is my average body armor if you like integers

Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 24, 2014, 06:35:33 pm
More surprising to me than the fact that people actually care about ironflesh, is the fact that the majority must have over 18 str(7-8 IF is 30%). Very good.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: karasu on October 24, 2014, 06:40:49 pm
They don't care about IF, they simply got scared by seeing how much wpf they were losing without it, since the new patch.

Result? It's the age of melee tanks. gg
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: Tojo on October 24, 2014, 07:49:06 pm
Voncrow you need to make it specific for melee , cav, or ranged character. I have 0 IF on cav, but have 5 on my melee character
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 24, 2014, 08:54:17 pm
All the polls I've done up to this point have been intended for all classes, my cav has 5 IF with 18 str, and my Melee has 6 IF with 30 str(For both polls I chose the stats of my main hero Voncrow_KUTT, because I feel my main best represents my position in the poll.). I've seen other cav players that had IF, and I've seen Range players that prioritized IF over ps(and vice verca)  and shielders who got IF before the patch. While class certainly affects it, so does level and play style. I think all classes should be involved to get the best show of data, this is a class based combat system after all. Although with that point, it makes we wonder how the percentages of these past two polls will relate to the poll of classes.

Next Poll will be a class based poll. I'll create the new poll either before or after I go to sleep once we get over 100 hundred votes in the poll.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: lombardsoup on October 24, 2014, 09:04:37 pm
No more than 5 IF for functional builds.  The only time I use more is in joke builds (max str with no wpf)
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 24, 2014, 09:06:46 pm
I would disagree, almost all my fully leveled builds pre-patch involved having max or 3 less than max, this usually worked to my advantage being a bad player and all. 10 or more IF is not something to be taken lightly.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: lombardsoup on October 24, 2014, 09:09:13 pm
To each his own.  Tried rolling high STR IF builds before and those are the ones I tend to die most on.  I'm terrible at blocking so I need that extra agi to help compensate for my slow reaction time.

I could just git gud but that is beyond me.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: Rico on October 24, 2014, 09:13:29 pm
Poll suggestions:
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 24, 2014, 09:15:45 pm
Poll suggestions:
  • Damage type of your #1 favorite weapon: Cut focus/stab focus/blunt focus/all-rounder
  • What's your AGI? 3-45
  • What's the maximum upkeep on your default gear?
  • Which meta class do you play: Infantry, Ranged, Cavalry, Mounted Ranged (please run this one for longer than the others)
  • What's your roleplay theme: Central European, Slav, Southern European, Nordic, Steppe, Desert, Ninja/Samurai, Nothing in particular

I thought of some of those themselves but had put them on hold, Max upkeep and theme are some interestings ideas that I'll have to put on the list, in fact, time to start a list. Just in case I forget.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: Falka on October 25, 2014, 01:47:57 am
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That's why I need heavier armor  :(
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring IF poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 25, 2014, 03:48:59 am
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That's why I need heavier armor  :(

We need a domestic abuse Admin branch for crpg!

EDIT: New poll(e hue), vote in a way that you'd like to be represented.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Class poll!
Post by: Battlepriest on October 25, 2014, 06:37:46 am
bump

are you happy now voncrow

now tell me

where the fuck is maceswinger
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Class poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 25, 2014, 06:39:41 am
bump

are you happy now voncrow

now tell me

where the fuck is maceswinger

I don'ts know mang, i swear on me mum, cum on mang, dont be like that.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Class poll!
Post by: traxits on October 26, 2014, 05:02:30 am
you still a hoe
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Class poll!
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on October 26, 2014, 07:04:46 pm
Poll recommendation: Ask cav what weapon they primarily use on horseback. Lance, 1h, 2h, xbow, bow, throwing.

Probably won't be very relevant, given the small sample. So far only a handful of people even say they play as cav in the class poll, so...
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Class poll!
Post by: njames89 on October 26, 2014, 07:06:45 pm
Cool thread! I like how all the polls are saved. Fun to look back and see where you fall.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Class poll!
Post by: agweber on October 26, 2014, 09:20:11 pm
Maybe another poll for what class you've spent the most time playing post-patch. It'd only be relevant if it was done pretty soon. And the poll would probably have a larger variety of builds, maybe str/balanced/agi for each of the types.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Class poll!
Post by: Sharpe on October 26, 2014, 10:13:58 pm
^
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Class poll!
Post by: SP1N on October 26, 2014, 10:22:02 pm
What if you're 2h and pole? D:
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Class poll!
Post by: Stud_Muffin on October 26, 2014, 10:50:02 pm
Why isn't there an option for the peasant class?
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Class poll!
Post by: sF_Guardian on October 26, 2014, 10:52:48 pm
The Poll is pretty useless since for example I play every melee class (fuck ranged) with my main and alts.
I just have one character for pretty much every class and build I like.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Class poll!
Post by: Viriathus on October 26, 2014, 11:27:24 pm
Do a poll about the comunity personal info, Age, Gender, Location...
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Class poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 27, 2014, 12:46:15 am
The Poll is pretty useless since for example I play every melee class (fuck ranged) with my main and alts.
I just have one character for pretty much every class and build I like.

Then pick the option that you think represents you best. If you can't decide, pick the class you've played the most. Don't know that? Fuck it, close your eyes and click. For all these polls, just choose what you think represents you best, whether that's what you currently have, something you've done in the past.

EDIT: Those of you that know me, may know that I have a moderate disdain for agility. Putting that aside, let see how disgusting your builds are! My build of 30/15 gives me 15 agi and lets me still be slower than about everyone else, good times.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: njames89 on October 27, 2014, 03:09:25 pm
POLLS FOR THE POLL GOD. (21 agility)
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 27, 2014, 03:17:07 pm
Make the agility boundaries better, being in 3-8 puts me in the same category as any scumbag who has 8 agility.

Unfortunately, you'll have to settle with being among the greatest of the strength master race. Also, I set the boundaries as are so that even level 39 3/49 with 17 ath. could count in. (I'm such a nerd that I used the calculator to find a max reasonable agi before creating the poll)
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 28, 2014, 12:39:01 am
hmm 21 is the most common. makes sense, really.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: lombardsoup on October 28, 2014, 12:53:59 am
What's a good place to stop with the agi if doing short sword 1h spam?  Have 21 atm
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 28, 2014, 12:58:48 am
39, anything less is not manly enough.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Tydeus on October 28, 2014, 01:10:05 am
Looks like strength has made its comeback after all.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 28, 2014, 02:43:38 am
Looks like strength has made its comeback after all.

With the  poll as is, I'd say there are more of a shift to balance builds but definitely more agi than str, by quite a bit.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Pawiu on October 28, 2014, 02:48:34 pm
27/21 PoleMaster build XD
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: StonedSteel on October 28, 2014, 07:54:30 pm
new agility poll speaks volumes about crpg's lack of diversity. GG Tydeus, mission accomplished.

chadz, shame on you, letting some NA fool destroy your rpg, and you are just as dumb for keeping him.

not a good look
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 28, 2014, 08:26:28 pm
New poll coming up soon be awares, weapon length soon to all up in your face.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Jona on October 28, 2014, 09:36:57 pm
New poll coming up soon be awares, weapon length soon to all up in your face.

I feel like this is a pretty poor poll option. We all swap weapons so regularly that there is no way to decide which one weapon length to go with. Not everyone has a "signature" weapon that they always fall back on. Heck, many people would say that the long axe is mine, but truth be told I barely use it anymore (since it is more of a siege weapon). And I sure as heck ain't calculating the average weapon length just for the poll...

We just had an agility poll, why not follow up with a strength poll?
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 28, 2014, 09:47:44 pm
I feel like this is a pretty poor poll option. We all swap weapons so regularly that there is no way to decide which one weapon length to go with. Not everyone has a "signature" weapon that they always fall back on. Heck, many people would say that the long axe is mine, but truth be told I barely use it anymore (since it is more of a siege weapon). And I sure as heck ain't calculating the average weapon length just for the poll...

We just had an agility poll, why not follow up with a strength poll?

Probably a good idea, but then again, like I said:

Then pick the option that you think represents you best.

We all know what weapon you represent Jona, but if you want a str(spoiler: it'll be a lot like this one) poll so bad I'll do it.

Listen people, this is a game that one of its greatest querks is customization. But that's because it separates you from the rest, not everyone has to be a Kuyak hero.(though many choose to do so anyway  :mad:) I think some of our more veteran players have played long enough to find a weapon that they think represents them, and if not, just pick your current or average(of all loomed or favs) and just pick. It doesn't have to be rocket science and it something relevant to poll about. I plan on doing a lot of weapon polls people so be please don't keep bringing this up since I don't want to answer the same question a 100 times, rant over.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Taser on October 28, 2014, 10:19:26 pm
I feel like this is a pretty poor poll option. We all swap weapons so regularly that there is no way to decide which one weapon length to go with. Not everyone has a "signature" weapon that they always fall back on. Heck, many people would say that the long axe is mine, but truth be told I barely use it anymore (since it is more of a siege weapon). And I sure as heck ain't calculating the average weapon length just for the poll...

We just had an agility poll, why not follow up with a strength poll?

Long axe is your signature weapon? No. Its the staff. Never forget your roots Jona.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: StonedSteel on October 28, 2014, 10:32:32 pm
Long axe is your signature weapon? No. Its the longsword*. Never forget your roots Jona.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: San on October 28, 2014, 11:44:47 pm
Polls from a few years ago:

http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/na-strength-poll/?viewresults
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/na-agility-poll/?viewresults

http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/eu-strength-poll/?viewresults
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/eu-agility-poll/?viewresults

Not much changed, still somewhat balanced. I guess now may even be slightly more strength leaning than before.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 28, 2014, 11:50:44 pm
Polls from a few years ago:

http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/na-strength-poll/?viewresults
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/na-agility-poll/?viewresults

http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/eu-strength-poll/?viewresults
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/eu-agility-poll/?viewresults

Not much changed, still somewhat balanced. I guess now may even be slightly more strength leaning than before.

If I spread my poll out more it would probably look a lot more alike too. Nice find San.

Maybe I should try redoing this poll sometime with less compact stats.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Jona on October 29, 2014, 12:01:54 am
Long axe is your signature weapon? No. Its the staff. Never forget your roots Jona.

Long axe is your signature weapon? No. Its the longsword*. Never forget your roots Jona.

Long axe is your signature weapon? No. Its the Danish Greatsword*. Never forget your roots Jona.

It's like you guys don't even know me.  :cry:
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Jack1 on October 29, 2014, 12:03:12 am
Wow. I guess I'm part of the 1% with 12 agility. Didn't see that coming.

Also you should do levels next.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Jack1 on October 29, 2014, 12:04:06 am
Double post
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Taser on October 29, 2014, 12:35:25 am

It's like you guys don't even know me.  :cry:

That doesn't count. Everyone and their mother had a danish longsword.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Jona on October 29, 2014, 12:48:50 am
That doesn't count. Everyone and their mother had a danish longsword.

Yes, but it was my first heirloom, and the only item I loomed myself in all my time playing, save for the most recent patch in which I loomed the ranger leather armor. Although technically, if we are going waaaaaay back to my roots... then yes, I used a longsword more often than a danish, seeing how I rolled with 12 str. I would personally base my roots off of my looms, but I see how it can go either way, I suppose.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 29, 2014, 01:14:50 am
Jona likes it long, nothing wrong with that.

Jack: I don't think a level poll would be as relevant now as it would have been prior to the patch. But I'll add it to the list for you anyway bae.

New Poll! tried to loosen it up a bit to give us what is hopefully more spread.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Killer on October 29, 2014, 03:02:08 am
Jona likes it long, nothing wrong with that.

Jack: I don't think a level poll would be as relevant now as it would have been prior to the patch. But I'll add it to the list for you anyway bae.

New Poll! tried to loosen it up a bit to give us what is hopefully more spread.
you messed up on one part of it, u put instead of 33-38 u put 33-28
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Agility poll!
Post by: Taser on October 29, 2014, 03:05:08 am
Yes, but it was my first heirloom, and the only item I loomed myself in all my time playing, save for the most recent patch in which I loomed the ranger leather armor. Although technically, if we are going waaaaaay back to my roots... then yes, I used a longsword more often than a danish, seeing how I rolled with 12 str. I would personally base my roots off of my looms, but I see how it can go either way, I suppose.

Eh.. first loom I ever loomed was the two handed sword. Its not my signature wep though.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Strength poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 29, 2014, 03:49:24 am
My first loom were steel bolts  :?
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Strength poll!
Post by: Voncrow on October 31, 2014, 01:55:09 am
Are you boys tuckered out already? I need dem votes!
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Strength poll!
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on October 31, 2014, 02:31:49 am
I'd like to see the break down of armour for the 50-60 segment. See where the bulk is. My guess is closer to 60 than not.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Strength poll!
Post by: Voncrow on November 01, 2014, 04:29:08 pm
If the next three votes are 27-29 I'll be really impressed...
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Strength poll!
Post by: San on November 01, 2014, 04:48:40 pm
1-9-17-17-17-14-6-2-1-3

17 at 21 and 24 (middle)

27 agi builds, 17 balanced agi and 10 full agi
26 str builds, 14 balanced str and 12 full str

If you pick a guy randomly, chances are his build can be pretty much anything.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Strength poll!
Post by: Killer on November 01, 2014, 08:05:17 pm
Minority spearing best spearing (being a 33 str longspearman)
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Strength poll!
Post by: SP1N on November 02, 2014, 01:07:18 am
Minority spearing best spearing (being a 33 str longspearman)

You should talk to hill and tanken, lol.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Strength poll!
Post by: Killer on November 02, 2014, 02:51:37 am
You should talk to hill and tanken, lol.
Hill is gone for good and tanken is a alwpiker :P
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Strength poll!
Post by: SP1N on November 02, 2014, 03:15:11 am
Hill is gone for good and tanken is a alwpiker :P
Hill will be back, they always come back.
Pretty sure Tanken was a strength piker back in the day, unless that was Tretter. My newbie memories are failing me.

On-Topic: I wanna see a poll of average total weight carried.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Strength poll!
Post by: Taser on November 02, 2014, 04:11:49 am
Hill will be back, they always come back.
Pretty sure Tanken was a strength piker back in the day, unless that was Tretter. My newbie memories are failing me.

On-Topic: I wanna see a poll of average total weight carried.

I do all the options based on my main char. so weight for him would be 26.5. Board shields are heavy.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Strength poll!
Post by: Voncrow on November 02, 2014, 04:18:55 am
Hill will be back, they always come back.
Pretty sure Tanken was a strength piker back in the day, unless that was Tretter. My newbie memories are failing me.

On-Topic: I wanna see a poll of average total weight carried.

Thy will be done.

EDIT: 30.2 with my usual armour setup (surcoat over mail and plate, polished gauntlets, Gjermundbu Helm, Mail Boots) and Long Maul.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Strength poll!
Post by: Jona on November 02, 2014, 04:54:55 am
So we are including weapon weight in this, I'm assuming?
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!(Not your mothers)
Post by: Voncrow on November 02, 2014, 05:17:41 am
Yes, weapon weight is included.

Now on top of that, let me lay some knowledge down on you. Maximum weight has been calculated. If you are a archer with enough strength to wear plate, you can have all of this.
Milanese Plate:       29.7
Heavy Gauntlets:   2
Black Greaves:       3.8
Weimar Helmet:      4
Long Bow:              4
+3 arrows(2):         20
+3 Knobbed Mace: 2.5
For a whopping 64.4 weight. Assuming these are kilograms, that would make it 141lb for us uneducated Americans. This is using maximum slots and heaviest possible Equipment. Why anyone would want to use this build in the first place, is beyond me. Good Day Spook fans.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Pawiu on November 02, 2014, 01:14:15 pm
heavy armor ftw 32,6 kg
(damned poleaxe has weight of 3,4 kg  :evil:)
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Algarn on November 02, 2014, 01:47:07 pm
Fuck me, I belong to one of the latest categories on this poll (25kg for my weapons,  arrows weight 20kg...)
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Moncho on November 02, 2014, 01:58:41 pm
It changes. ATM 2.3 (0.7 gauntlets, 0.4 shirt, 0 straw hat, 0 wrapping boots, 1.2 quarterstaff)
My most common one in the past: 17-20 (2.6+11.1+0.7+2.1+wep (anything between 1 and 3))
And on high ping gear (heavy armour and bec spam) it raises to 30ish
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Gurnisson on November 02, 2014, 02:19:35 pm
~18-19

Tagancha Helm
Red Palace Guard Armour/Brown Byrnja
Scale Gauntlets
Mail Chausses
Great Bardiche/Bearded Axe
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: SP1N on November 02, 2014, 02:34:45 pm
For awhile I was in my big, bad brigandine gear, which weighed 26.6 with an effective weight of 34.4.

Although thanks to the new patch and a healthy dose of Ironflesh, I've been loom trading and I'm proud to say I've lost 13.2 kg! I now weigh 13.4 with an effective 13.7!
I couldn't have done it without the support of my item balance crew, and the random marketplace fiends who ate up my ridiculous offers.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Voncrow on November 02, 2014, 05:02:42 pm
May have to redo the poll considering my ignorance isolated plate crutches of all kind to one category. I'll wait for the progress to see.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Kalp on November 03, 2014, 10:04:41 am
I don't care about weight, lookout is the most important. Also I often change weapon.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Macbeth3 on November 03, 2014, 10:43:21 am
The only weight that is important to me, is my Armour. :3
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 03, 2014, 11:22:01 pm
Armor(Full Mail): 15.4
(3)Weapons+Shield: 10.7
Total: 26.1

You should, admittedly go for ARMOR weight over full weight. Armor weight is a larger malus on your character and weapon weight does much less to slow you down.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Jona on November 04, 2014, 12:22:35 am
You should, admittedly go for ARMOR weight over full weight. Armor weight is a larger malus on your character and weapon weight does much less to slow you down.

Yeah... the maximum armor weight is roughly 35-36, while the maximum weight possible is 75-76 (from carrying 4 bags of +3 arrows). Quite the difference. Not to mention anyone who uses a shield (especially a hoplite who carries a sidearm) or maul looks like a plate crutch.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Jeade on November 04, 2014, 12:33:42 am
Yeah... the maximum armor weight is roughly 35-36

34.3 here with archery gear equipped.
Armor weight is 9.9.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Jona on November 04, 2014, 12:36:49 am
34.3 here

Plate crutch.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Rico on November 04, 2014, 01:11:28 am
Quote
36+(I have no idea what max weight is...)

4x Steel Shield + Milanese Plate + Weimar Helmet + Black Greaves + Heavy Gauntlets = 83.7w

Edit: Construction Site is heavier than Steel Shield, but you can only equip one at a time. How many slots are Steel Shields? If they are more than 1, replace Steel Shield with Calradian Arrows 11.5w -> 10.0w
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Jack1 on November 04, 2014, 03:48:17 am
Max body armor+two broad short swords+ two medium wooden ladders
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Post by: lombardsoup on November 04, 2014, 05:28:02 am
28.

Damn look at all these fat burger eating archers
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Post by: Jona on November 04, 2014, 05:29:53 am
Max body armor + two smoke bombs + two medium wooden ladders
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Post by: Voncrow on November 04, 2014, 08:32:30 pm
I actually used to wear 17.7 in armour instead of 23 something, then archery became an obsessive problem and I change to 62 body armour instead of 45. On another note, rip surcoat over mail of all kinds, they were ruined with the patch of destiny.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weight poll!
Post by: Voncrow on November 06, 2014, 09:46:15 pm
I wonder if the last four votes will destroy what currently looks like a decent trend.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon Reach Poll!
Post by: Tojo on November 07, 2014, 05:07:46 pm
I use an elite scimitar so I put 190+
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon Reach Poll!
Post by: Algarn on November 07, 2014, 05:33:27 pm
I use a bow so I belong to the last category.

Edited because Tojo is angry I was too lazy to write a post. ;)
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon Reach Poll!
Post by: njames89 on November 07, 2014, 05:34:48 pm
Hey weapon reach finally a category in not abusing! 106
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon Reach Poll!
Post by: Tojo on November 07, 2014, 07:22:26 pm


I do not use nor do I support the use of bows.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon Reach Poll!
Post by: Jona on November 07, 2014, 07:25:43 pm
Voted assuming reach = length, which is not really ever true, but w.e.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon Reach Poll!
Post by: Voncrow on November 08, 2014, 06:44:31 am
I use an elite scimitar so I put 190+

nerf 1hand plx, the ghost reach is cereal.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon length Poll!
Post by: Pawiu on November 08, 2014, 01:33:33 pm
http://forum.melee.org/beginner%27s-help-and-guides/game-mechanic-megathread!/
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon length Poll!
Post by: SP1N on November 09, 2014, 06:25:42 pm
This poll puts my pike in the same class as lancers, oh the irony.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon length Poll!
Post by: Voncrow on November 09, 2014, 07:54:52 pm
This poll puts my pike in the same class as lancers, oh the irony.

Indeed. Moderately surprised there aren't more votes in that category to be honest.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon length Poll!
Post by: Sharpe on November 09, 2014, 08:20:33 pm
I had to take average of my 2 characters, it put me in a weird category.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon length Poll!
Post by: Switchtense on November 09, 2014, 08:35:57 pm
Long Spear only - for real men! :D
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon length Poll!
Post by: Voncrow on November 10, 2014, 11:43:06 pm
The Dagger whore seems to be quite the minority. Poor Swedish Chef.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon length Poll!
Post by: Taser on November 11, 2014, 02:13:37 am
Long Spear only - for real men! :D

I'd give that girl in your avi my long spear if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now with free loom give away...
Post by: Voncrow on November 13, 2014, 05:16:37 am
I just retired, so now I have a free loom, and I'm going to pass the savings on to you! And to shamelessly advertise my thread while I do it, I'll just put the contest in this thread. Have fun, now here is how the game goes. You name a Great House from Morrowind, all people who choose a certain great house are viable to continue on in the contest to win the loom. That is, if I'm not too lazy to continue from there. If I am too lazy, I'll just randomly generate a winner from that house. Now let the games begin! Also those who don't vote on my poll are just terrible people.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring free loomz...
Post by: Stud_Muffin on November 13, 2014, 06:14:02 am
Hlaalu for Imperial scum.
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Post by: Taser on November 13, 2014, 06:29:23 am
House Redoran.

inb4 its hlaalu.. the worst one. Even the telvanni are better.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring free loomz...
Post by: To Kill A Dead Horse on November 13, 2014, 06:42:22 am
House Dagoth just because.

Also i beat Morrowind without knowing that wraithguard existed.
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Post by: Umbra on November 13, 2014, 09:30:57 am
Lol you plebs, house Indoril is clearly superior.
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Post by: lombardsoup on November 13, 2014, 10:52:25 am
Its always Hlaalu

...I'd kill for another Morrowind instead of shit like ESO
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Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 13, 2014, 11:03:45 am
Goddayum! Of course House Indoril. Can anyone even doubt the superiority?
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Post by: Krex on November 13, 2014, 04:32:39 pm
Goddayum! Of course House Indoril. Can anyone even doubt the superiority?
Agreed,Indoril it is.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon length Poll!
Post by: Switchtense on November 13, 2014, 05:03:01 pm
I'd give that girl in your avi my long spear if you know what I mean.

Long and thin eh?
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring free loomz...
Post by: Pawiu on November 13, 2014, 07:50:47 pm
House Dagoth
who don't want ot have evil god as a head of his family?
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Post by: Voncrow on November 13, 2014, 08:20:48 pm
The current participation is weak. I don't see enough lusting after the green. You can literally just google and pick a random house if you never even played morrowind.
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Post by: AwesomeHail on November 13, 2014, 08:29:26 pm
Goddayum! Of course House Indoril. Can anyone even doubt the superiority?

yup yup Indoril ftw :D
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Post by: Krex on November 13, 2014, 09:28:11 pm
The current participation is weak. I don't see enough lusting after the green. You can literally just google and pick a random house if you never even played morrowind.
I think I still have to original CD somewhere...
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring free loomz...
Post by: Grumbs on November 13, 2014, 09:35:53 pm
House Telvanni
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Post by: Voncrow on November 13, 2014, 11:15:25 pm
Its always Hlaalu

...I'd kill for another Morrowind instead of shit like ESO

That's what we said about The Old Republic also...
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring free loomz...
Post by: Jona on November 14, 2014, 01:56:40 am
Ummm... yeah... totes House Redoran... They are like... cool n such.
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Post by: Kalp on November 14, 2014, 08:57:13 am
Uncle Crassius Curio.. I mean Hlaalu ofc  :lol:
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Post by: Macbeth3 on November 14, 2014, 09:02:42 am
Hlaalu, Nobody beats Uncle Crassius Curio.
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Post by: Umbra on November 14, 2014, 09:27:06 am
Nobody cares about  Dres :(
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Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 14, 2014, 09:49:08 am
The ordinator disapproves.

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Post by: Voncrow on November 14, 2014, 07:45:54 pm
New poll, and also I'll probably wrap up the contest at around 6pm cst. So anyone who wants to still compete better enter.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring free loomz...
Post by: Pawiu on November 14, 2014, 08:04:38 pm
pffftf my poleaxe requires 17 str and now im in same place as 2h weaklings xd
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Post by: Voncrow on November 15, 2014, 02:00:57 am
Due to connection problems, I am a bit late. But worry not, fate has spoken. Congratulations lucky winners of House Telvanni, you've made it! I say this ironically because only one none scrub among you exists, also disappointed no one chose house Dres, but what you gonna do. In all TES games my favorite character was always a mage, morrowind takes you through the magic of ... magic better than any of it's sequels. And I have to say my time spent with House Telvanni is filled with good times. I was planning to have some sort of trivia contest for us Telvanni nerds to decide the winner, but since there is only one, Grumbs can just go ahead and put an offer up on the marketplace, congratulation winners!

EDIT: Now for fun lets continue the trivia game! You are given a skirt, do you:
A: Wear the Skirt
B: Not wear the Skirt
C: Make the house cat wear the Skirt.

Choose now and possibly win nothing!
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Post by: WITCHCRAFT on November 15, 2014, 03:30:03 am
A) Wear the skirt. But make sure no one is watching. Then feel a mixture of shame and arousal.

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Post by: Voncrow on November 15, 2014, 03:57:26 am
A) Wear the skirt. But make sure no one is watching. Then feel a mixture of shame and arousal.

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Those eyes  :terrified:
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Post by: WITCHCRAFT on November 15, 2014, 04:28:01 am
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Post by: lombardsoup on November 15, 2014, 05:41:10 am
WITCHCRAFT why ya gotta bring da weeaboo here
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Post by: Voncrow on November 16, 2014, 03:05:38 am
WITCHCRAFT why ya gotta bring da weeaboo here

I think you are missing the point he's trying to get across. It's ok Witchcraft, I accept you the way you are. And also where the hell is grumbs.
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Post by: WITCHCRAFT on November 16, 2014, 08:05:47 pm
I think you are missing the point he's trying to get across. It's ok Witchcraft, I accept you the way you are.

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Post by: lombardsoup on November 16, 2014, 08:16:07 pm
I think you are missing the point he's trying to get across. It's ok Witchcraft, I accept you the way you are. And also where the hell is grumbs.

The sad part is that I know all the shit he's referencing.  Would love to unlearn it
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Post by: Macbeth3 on November 16, 2014, 10:21:21 pm
EDIT: Now for fun lets continue the trivia game! You are given a skirt, do you:
A: Wear the Skirt
B: Not wear the Skirt
C: Make the house cat wear the Skirt.


Make my cat wear THIS skirt!

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon Difficulty Poll!
Post by: Voncrow on November 18, 2014, 07:30:15 pm
I forgot to mention the skirt is cursed and kills the wearer. Too bad for Witch and Mac's cat. Although Mac's won that round, since that's the right answer.
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Post by: WITCHCRAFT on November 18, 2014, 07:37:26 pm
I forgot to mention the skirt is cursed and kills the wearer. Too bad for Witch and Mac's cat. Although Mac's won that round, since that's the right answer.

youre the worst dungeon master ever
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Post by: Voncrow on November 20, 2014, 10:50:38 pm
youre the worst dungeon master ever

As the GM I must say that I hold no responsibility to tell you whether or not clothing is cursed, and all reliability falls on the victim.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring Weapon Difficulty Poll!
Post by: Voncrow on November 27, 2014, 03:33:03 am
bump for research purposes, hope we have atleast 100 people lurking here... if not, I"ll have a new poll for you guys on monday.
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Post by: StonedSteel on November 27, 2014, 06:37:56 am
bump for research purposes, hope we have atleast 100 people lurking here... if not, I"ll have a new poll for you guys on monday.

hope its the "best era" poll we talked about, ive been waiting.
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Post by: Voncrow on November 28, 2014, 01:44:29 am
hope its the "best era" poll we talked about, ive been waiting.

(click to show/hide)

I started playing during strat 4 so anyone who wants to specify times more than "Pre Strat 4", post recommendations for categories and I'll add them in the poll.
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Post by: Nordwolf on November 28, 2014, 02:19:26 am
You should definitely add pre-xp change time aka xp barn time. That's the time that brings up the most memories. I'm not sure if any other smaller time periods would fall into era category.
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Post by: lombardsoup on November 28, 2014, 02:43:12 am
You should definitely add pre-xp change time aka xp barn time. That's the time that brings up the most memories. I'm not sure if any other smaller time periods would fall into era category.

RIP xp barn.  Once you were grand, now you are dilapidated in the snowy wastes

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Post by: Voncrow on November 28, 2014, 04:21:26 am
You should definitely add pre-xp change time aka xp barn time. That's the time that brings up the most memories. I'm not sure if any other smaller time periods would fall into era category.

Good note, I will add that in a bit, any other suggestions?
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now favorite crpg period Poll!
Post by: Voncrow on December 28, 2014, 06:10:33 am
People want to reload crpg to a prior save you say? I wonder how we can be sure what everyone wants? (ps: still need some help filling in the blanks of prior changes aka more poll options(pls help))
Bump from deaths grip and I wonder if we will get more than 25 votes this time.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring favorite crpg era poll!
Post by: Jack1 on December 28, 2014, 06:48:36 pm
IMO the game started going downhill when BLACK ARMOR was changed to black armor.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring favorite crpg era poll!
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on December 29, 2014, 08:04:26 am
I like this poll, and I think it's one of the more loaded/most important polls in that it's a simple question of "When did you like this game the most?"

This, being asked when the mod seems to be on a steady decline. Admittedly, I haven't been in a server in like a month. Been busy IRL, and sadly will remain busy for the next 7 weeks.

But I think the questions could be a bit more specific. I look at the Battle server and the Strat servers as (almost) two different games: I enjoy the Battle Server mechanics of strat 4+, though I must note that I am not a fan of the most recent uber-patch. But, I had more fun playing Strat's 2 and 3 that the most recent iteration.

My preference for the past Strat's probably comes from a mix of nostalgia, the sense of "Oh this is new(ish) and fun!" that I (and perhaps others) felt at the time, and the general cRPG population's investment into strat at the time. I feel that past iterations of strat had more players giving a fuck than the most recent iterations. This is perhaps tied into my own, very personal, take on the earlier strats: they were more immersive. I was invested in them, and could better imagine the conflicts between clans being carried out, like some retarded, nerdy Game of Thrones; hence the inception of my "roleplaying". I think this ease of imagining--this immersion--was so easily accomplished back then because of a mix of the aforementioned factors, plus strat's relative youth and healthy population. A number of factors blended together, back in the day, to make those earlier strats more immersive for me. I care more about them, to the point that clan identies and heraldries and the players that led them all mattered. I kept track of that shit like I was tracking the arcs of characters (and their factions) in a weird, nerdy fucking soap opera.

Shit, my "roleplay" posts often required an hour of digging through forums (and my own memory) to figure out who was doing what, and what faction was aligned with which. Verisimilitude and all that. I still fucked that part up frequently, but the impulse to at least try was there, which is telling. It suggests that the battle-by-battle, post-by-post reality of previous strat iterations was indeed very important to me, and important to the stories I tried to tell (and to the implied, larger narrative).

Times have a-changed, and I honestly think that the major factor in this discussion is simply the mod's age. It's gotten old and people have moved on, devs included. At this point, I'm hoping that Battlegrounds is as fun as cRPG was. I'm hoping that, after my IRL fun-times are over with, I can buy Battlegrounds and immerse myself once again into a the derpy, imaginative, medieval playground that I'd romped in not so long ago. Hopefully the devs are able to keep the freedom and sandbox-y playfulness of the mod intact for the next version of things, while upgrading graphics and the strat mechanics to make a more intuitive, fun experience.

Sorry for the rambling. I've been busy and have only recently had access to beer. Beers.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring favorite crpg era poll!
Post by: Teeth on December 29, 2014, 11:20:19 am
I would like to vote for a period that is not available, namely the time between the upkeep patch and Strat 2. This period was from January 2011 till September 2011.

Pre-upkeep patch was fun, but not fair. I started in December 2010 (lel) and played religiously and all I reached in that month, in which I probably cleared 150 hours, was level 20, 150 wpf and about 35k worth of gear. The old players were level 45+, with over 220 wpf and had 200k worth of gear and there was no way I could have ever reached a reasonably level playing field.

The start of 2011 had the much fairer new system which was perhaps less retarded fun, but a better and more solid experience overall. The few reasons why I prefer this era over more recent eras have nothing to do with mechanics or game design, which were shittier by far. There is zero point in reverting to an earlier version, because it won't ever be the same. The game lacked a whole lot of stuff that I would sorely miss now.

The game back then was more fun for two reasons. One being that it was alive and vibrant as fuck, the other being that people sucked. There were probably well over 500 players online at primetime and there were many big clans making their mark on the battle server. This was a time of clans having trainings and the competitive clan scene was growing. There were tons of very large and very good clans. Admittedly I wasted my time being a ninja and I got into a competitive clan pretty late, but the taste I got of it and the general atmosphere was pretty damn good. It was also a time of much lower average playing skill, which made the game more fun. It was easier to be consistently good and the game was far from a numbers game. One versus many was a challenge, not a death sentence. Being good meant being able to block well. No endless block fests, fighting was frantic and quick. It was a time where the entire server would watch one of the classic pros clutch against 15 players with the chat going apeshit.

Then Strat came back after a long absence and though me and everyone were excited as hell, I would have preferred it now if it have stayed away. It instantly demolished the active competitive scene as tryhards started attacking clans on Strat when they had clanbattles and organizing anything became impossible.
Title: Re: CRPG statistics poll | Now featuring favorite crpg era poll!
Post by: Voncrow on December 31, 2014, 11:10:57 am
I would like to vote for a period that is not available, namely the time between the upkeep patch and Strat 2. This period was from January 2011 till September 2011.

Pre-upkeep patch was fun, but not fair. I started in December 2010 (lel) and played religiously and all I reached in that month, in which I probably cleared 150 hours, was level 20, 150 wpf and about 35k worth of gear. The old players were level 45+, with over 220 wpf and had 200k worth of gear and there was no way I could have ever reached a reasonably level playing field.

The start of 2011 had the much fairer new system which was perhaps less retarded fun, but a better and more solid experience overall. The few reasons why I prefer this era over more recent eras have nothing to do with mechanics or game design, which were shittier by far. There is zero point in reverting to an earlier version, because it won't ever be the same. The game lacked a whole lot of stuff that I would sorely miss now.

The game back then was more fun for two reasons. One being that it was alive and vibrant as fuck, the other being that people sucked. There were probably well over 500 players online at primetime and there were many big clans making their mark on the battle server. This was a time of clans having trainings and the competitive clan scene was growing. There were tons of very large and very good clans. Admittedly I wasted my time being a ninja and I got into a competitive clan pretty late, but the taste I got of it and the general atmosphere was pretty damn good. It was also a time of much lower average playing skill, which made the game more fun. It was easier to be consistently good and the game was far from a numbers game. One versus many was a challenge, not a death sentence. Being good meant being able to block well. No endless block fests, fighting was frantic and quick. It was a time where the entire server would watch one of the classic pros clutch against 15 players with the chat going apeshit.

Then Strat came back after a long absence and though me and everyone were excited as hell, I would have preferred it now if it have stayed away. It instantly demolished the active competitive scene as tryhards started attacking clans on Strat when they had clanbattles and organizing anything became impossible.

That's interesting and helpful, I hope you can help fill in the rest of the gaps. My peasant looking self started playing in late 2013, so I am pretty much ignorant of everything prior to strat 4. Although most I know who have stopped playing have done so because of server issues, ping problems that are exclusive to crpg servers and don't really go away easily.