i got the impression that the Kurds are a much lesser evil than ISIS/ISIL.
Should the west really be backing them, could they realistically carve a state for their nation? Currently i am leaning towards yes in both regards.
Kürtlerin ben anasını bacısını gelmişini geçmişni bütün kürt tarihini ilimini bilimini dilimini ölmüşlerini sikeyim bölücü orospu çocukları bi de yüzsüz yüzsüz devlet bize bahmiy falan diyolar ulan siktirin gidin kendinize bakın orospu çocukları
Kürtlerin ben anasını bacısını gelmişini geçmişni bütün kürt tarihini ilimini bilimini dilimini ölmüşlerini sikeyim bölücü orospu çocukları bi de yüzsüz yüzsüz devlet bize bahmiy falan diyolar ulan siktirin gidin kendinize bakın orospu çocukları
I'm a bit hesitant towards arming the Pshergma with modern technology.
We've seen what happens if you arm extremist organisations like the Taliban in Afghanistan. First they will do what you expect them to do
but later you'll have a huge amounth of well armed soldiers who have nothing to do and need new aims to fight for. I don't know the background
of the Pshergma well enough to decide wether it would be a good or bad choice in the end.
Imo western states should be very careful not to arm any militia/army who's aims aren't exactly obvious and clear. For example if the Phergma would
later fight the Iraqian gouvernement or deliver weapons to extremist groups in Turkey or other regions we would at some point be expected to
step in and "clean up" the mess we would have created by arming forces who aren't bound to any law and have a very complicated leading structure/
clans etc.
The only tragic but logical choice would be to stop the ISIS by ourselves which would cause casualties in our own armies, though. I know western states
prefer to let others fight for them because casualties always harms the will of the population to support the choice politicians made but It's about time for
the states who invaded Afghanistan/Iraq to deal with the huge pile of shit they caused.
It's pretty obvious what the Peshmergas want: Free KurdistanYeah, yeah, and the Taliban wanted FREE Afghanistan, America wanted to free Lybia and Iraq, everyone wants freedom...
And this is a simple example why we can't sit on a table and discuss about the problem and try to find a solution. There is always someone like this. Saying ''fuck the Kurds'' or other way around.
sit on a table with kurds? do you even turk? they should be banned from turkey and maybe a holocaust should be done not maybe it must be done
I believe the Kurds are as deserving their own state as the Palestinians.
The Kurds state pretty much unofficially stretches from Northern Syria into Northern Iraq, next step is to be legitimised by the U.N. Although NATO state Turkey may view this as a betrayal by its NATO partners and such an act may push Turkey closer to Russia and away from the Wests orbit.
sit on a table with kurds? do you even turk? they should be banned from turkey and maybe a holocaust should be done not maybe it must be done
Last i checked you did genocide kurds as well as Armenians.
Anyhow. Problem is. Kurdistan consists of parts of Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria. 4 countries that would have to accept that. 1 which is an Islamic fanatic country. 2 which have broken down into civil wars. And 1 country that hates kurds since pre-Aptalturk.
Either way. They helped Iran against Iraq. They're constantly fighting islamic extremists. They helped USA in the Iraq war. They have women in their military. And their regions that they've officially captured are relatively stable.
I'd say they're a safe bet for a more stable country in the middle east.
You believe that Armenian genocide? Let me explain you history. It was in WW-I, they have tried to backstab us, they had guns so we gave them their answer. And please do not talk about bets on middle east. US is the only one who fucked up the middle east by going to Iraq just like they did wherever they go
You believe that Armenian genocide? Let me explain you history. It was in WW-I, they have tried to backstab us, they had guns so we gave them their answer. And please do not talk about bets on middle east. US is the only one who fucked up the middle east by going to Iraq just like they did wherever they go
It was mass-murdering cause it was a war. Ottoman Empire did what they had to do it's that simple...:lol:
Turklingland may bear some semblance to a modern country, but clearly many turklings are still backward racists.
Haha.
Years ago, I remember some turkish cRPG player adding me on steam, the moment we started talking he got buttfuckingmad thinking that I was french because France said something about Armenian genocide and that Turks shouldn't deny it at that time.
Basically he attacked me with all his turbotürk nationalistic bullshit, imagine. It was hilarious.
And how did he come up with that I'm french? Because I use a blue set of armor :lol:
"You were owned by ottoman empire, ottoman empire capture all europe, ottoman empire is best in history" Is the one I still remember :mrgreen: Basically got called a french bastard, then got interrogated about armenian genocide, and when he figured out that I'm not french he said "oh you are one of us, we conquered you!"
Jesus Fkn chreist.
Was probably Immortality. But yea there are some nut cases but there are also very cool turks. Its a large countryWhen did you become so boring, Umbra? :P
The only thing i get mad is this ''You did Armenian genocide'' thing. After 96 years they still keep saying the same thing. Sorry about the rage.
Haha.
Until your government officially recognizes the Armenian Genocide, I think we are going to keep saying that over and over.
I think the reason Turks don't accept the genocide is because they believe the Ottoman Empire was a great benevolent land who conquered to civilize and that it can do no wrong, some sort of proud attachment to a more glamorous time of Turkish history.
Some of them even thinks they can revive Ottoman Empire :lol: My only concern is becoming an islamic country with Erdogan. Then i will have to leave my country.
Also on the genocide thing. It will 'haunt' you forever, but it's much worse until it gets the proper treatment.
Having this dickbag of a leader for so many years doesn't help on a better image, either.
hell - not even a single Armenian player..... :rolleyes:
You missed the point. You don't have to assume personal responsibility, it's just about not rewriting history and accepting the fact that it happened.But who cares? It's 100 years ago, nobody responsible for it is alive anymore. Why does it matter if Turks accept it or not?
If, for example, Russia was to claim that, in WW2, they beat finns badly and won the Winter War against Finland, but their strategic goal was only to take a few territories, which they did... Hey, it was 70 years ago, who cares, right?
If, for example, Russia was to claim that, in WW2, they beat finns badly and won the Winter War against Finland, but their strategic goal was only to take a few territories, which they did... Hey, it was 70 years ago, who cares, right?Uh... it's clear from how you phrased this you expect me to be phased. I'm not. You're right, who cares? Why would Finland want to desperately correct that notion? Changes nothing in the present day.
Are you trolling or serious?Yes, obviously.
Ottoman Empire was powerfull yes. But it WAS, what you are doing today is much more important to me. I'm happy to be a part of Ottoman(lots of stuff to read) but i should focus on 21st century. I can't say something like ''We were Ottoman we are the best''. Sadly there are lots of people stuck in past. Some of them even thinks they can revive Ottoman Empire :lol: My only concern is becoming an islamic country with Erdogan. Then i will have to leave my country.
Yes, obviously.
Its been a while :lol:Since what?
But who cares? It's 100 years ago, nobody responsible for it is alive anymore. Why does it matter if Turks accept it or not?