edit: Meh probably not actually. Haven't even seen Shik on forums in forever. Hopefully my pointless insult will draw him out :3
Only real effect of your insults will be permaban, when Cooties/chadz/cmp decides it's enough. But I have a feeling we'll go in the same package. Wouldn't it be glorious, to suffer the same fate at the same time? Personally, can't wait for that to happen. You'll probably kill yourself irl because of it, and I'll just go to other gaming forums to do my thing :D
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Lars on June 27, 2014, 01:25:59 pm
Unban the balkan slav, please, it was a harmless joke.
One day all the balkan slavs will be sent back to the steppes, where they came from, so them asians can have their revenge. Now please unban him
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Prpavi on June 27, 2014, 01:32:15 pm
Hah! I like you sig Lars, it's a small tower untill you touch it and the tower gets big
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Miwiw on June 27, 2014, 01:33:08 pm
Only real effect of your insults will be permaban, when Cooties/chadz/cmp decides it's enough. But I have a feeling we'll go in the same package. Wouldn't it be glorious, to suffer the same fate at the same time? Personally, can't wait for that to happen. You'll probably kill yourself irl because of it, and I'll just go to other gaming forums to do my thing :D
Yesterday: I am barely interested in vidya games anymore. Today: I'll just go to one of the other gaming forums I frequent. I guess one of those statements was from one of your many "personas". Incidentally I'm not the weak willed piece of shit who refused to quit the game after staking a duel on it, then proceeded to "quit" twice with drama whoring threads as some sad, sad effort to pretend anyone in the community gave one flying shit about you "leaving" by bribing people with looms. On the very distant possibility that Ras actually accepted my challenge and somehow managed to win, I would have given up the mod with barely a twinge of regret. Probably more a sense of relief than anything. Seriously Leshma, go see a psychiatrist and take the medication he will inevitably prescribe you. It's the only way to salvage what little reason there is left in the broken husk you call a brain. My personal advice is to just kill yourself, you know deep inside no one will ever love you.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Grumbs on June 27, 2014, 03:48:51 pm
Seriously Leshma, go see a psychiatrist and take the medication he will inevitably prescribe you. It's the only way to salvage what little reason there is left in the broken husk you call a brain. My personal advice is to just kill yourself, you know deep inside no one will ever love you.
You go way overboard with Leshma. You really think hes mentally ill then tell him to kill himself? That is more serious than what Umbra said
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Oberyn on June 27, 2014, 03:52:05 pm
I don't have a lot of sympathy for mentally ill people. I actually have personal experience of having to deal with them, unlike bleeding heart bundle of stickss who think fundamentally broken people can be fixed with love and understanding and rainbows and puppy farts.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Grumbs on June 27, 2014, 03:59:14 pm
I don't have a lot of sympathy for mentally ill people. I actually have personal experience of having to deal with them, unlike bleeding heart bundle of stickss who think fundamentally broken people can be fixed with love and understanding and rainbows and puppy farts.
You don't have to "fix" anyone, just be tolerant. You show a lack of maturity with that kind of attitude.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Oberyn on June 27, 2014, 04:10:03 pm
And you show a lack of experience. How do you "tolerate" a psychopath, a sociopath, a narcissist? Even something as "benign" as borderline personality disorder. They're the closest thing to actual evil. Obviously you've never interacted with anyone on that spectrum for any length of time.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Panos_ on June 27, 2014, 04:20:07 pm
You don't have to "fix" anyone, just be tolerant. You show a lack of maturity with that kind of attitude.
And you show a lack of intolerance for his intolerance.
The world aint a Utopia, there will always be people who will hate my old friends, blacks, Greeks etc etc, deal with it.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Grumbs on June 27, 2014, 04:21:04 pm
You can't really label mental illness like that, like its some huge negative entity out to cause harm. Its people like Steven Fry (bipolar), people like this: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-neuroscientist-who-discovered-he-was-a-psychopath-180947814/?no-ist
Everyone has quirks. Just because some quirks have a name attached to them doesn't make them evil or out to get you
Plus you make huge assumptions about someone over the internet like you're some armchair psychologist :D .
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on June 27, 2014, 04:22:27 pm
And you show a lack of experience. How do you "tolerate" a psychopath, a sociopath, a narcissist? Even something as "benign" as borderline personality disorder. They're the closest thing to actual evil. Obviously you've never interacted with anyone on that spectrum for any length of time.
So... What are you going to do? Throw some more insults over internet?
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Panos_ on June 27, 2014, 04:25:20 pm
You can't really label mental illness like that, like its some huge negative entity out to cause harm. Its people like Steven Fry (bipolar), people like this: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-neuroscientist-who-discovered-he-was-a-psychopath-180947814/?no-ist Everyone has quirks. Just because some quirks have a name attached to them doesn't make them evil or out to get you
Why not? Labeling people is not prohibited by any law. Sure, it`s immoral, but not illegal. And AFAIK, some mental illnesses can cause harm, as in schizophrenia or paranoia or self injury disorder.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Oberyn on June 27, 2014, 04:32:53 pm
It has been one month and three days since my son, Elliot, did the unthinkable. There has not been one conscious second that I haven’t been thinking about the pain and suffering he caused for so many. The ripple affect of his actions has spread to countless thousands. I mourn for the loss of the young women and young men whose lives he ended. I feel for the victims and their families more than for the loss of my own son.
I do mourn for the lonely boy Elliot was, who disappeared because of a monster of an illness in him that none of us knew was so severe. I wish I could turn the clock back. There are so many “If only’s.”
I tried my best to do my duty as a father, but obviously my best was not enough. My duty now is to do as much as I can to try and stop this from happening again. Too many lives are being lost. Law enforcement professionals, teachers and health workers on the frontlines of the mental health crisis bear too much of a burden. And countless families struggle in silence with the consequences of mental illness each day.
We have to try and stop this. It will be a long journey involving the personal choices of individuals and families, public discussions, mental health reforms, a change in the culture – you name it. My sincere hope is that I can help by telling my story.
None of us understood what was in Elliot’s head – he hid it from not only his family, but also from mental health professionals and law enforcement. Looking back now through a tragic hindsight, I have begun to understand that there are traits, markers if you will, that family members can look out for in loved ones.
It’s important to note that the vast majority of mentally ill people are not violent. I am only speaking from my perspective and in the hope that families may be informed, vigilant and more able to take action. I am painfully and honestly trying to both reflect and learn more about what markers matter most. I am sharing my story and my initial reflections in an effort to save others from the kind of pain and suffering that Elliot caused.
To help families, I’ve created a small website with resources on mental illness and a place to share stories called AskForHelp.org. I hope you find the resources on that site useful. It is just a start and by no means comprehensive. I am just doing what I can under the circumstances with the help of family and friends. My simple message is, if in doubt about a family member, please ask for help.
Sincerely,
Peter Rodger
Obviously Elliot Rodgers just needed more tolerance and love, not heavy medication.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Oberyn on June 27, 2014, 04:35:47 pm
Why not? Labeling people is not prohibited by any law. Sure, it`s immoral, but not illegal. And AFAIK, some mental illnesses can cause harm, as in schizophrenia or paranoia or self injury disorder.
There's an entire field devoted to that. Criminal psychology has hundreds and hundreds of peer researched studies on the subject. But it's a lot easier to preach hippy love and tolerance bullshit when it doesn't affect you at all than actually get informed.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 27, 2014, 04:48:07 pm
Not sure what this has to do with your vitriolic focus on Leshma. You really could have reacted in a better way a lot of times. Even when you argue with rationale and logic, there is a load of venom bundled up with it when you could have just taken the less personal angle.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Oberyn on June 27, 2014, 04:53:28 pm
Not sure what this has to do with your vitriolic focus on Leshma. You really could have reacted in a better way a lot of times. Even when you argue with rationale and logic, there is a load of venom bundled up with it when you could have just taken the less personal angle.
I'm done "debating" with Leshma. There's no rhyme or reason to any of his bullshit. I have no interest in taking the less personal angle with this person.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 27, 2014, 05:01:23 pm
Why not simply ignore him if it's that bad?
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Molly on June 27, 2014, 05:32:29 pm
I don't have a lot of sympathy for mentally ill people.
Ye dude, that is a cool opinion to have. Glad that you put that out there now I now what a cool dude u are.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Molly on June 27, 2014, 05:54:40 pm
I honestly don't see the problem with this statement. It's not like he said "I'll beat 'em where I meet 'em!"
Personally, I don't have a lot of sympathy for those "I tell everyone that I'm totally gay" people. Don't think that makes me a bad person now :lol:
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Oberyn on June 27, 2014, 06:02:48 pm
"Mental illness" is kind of a wide net to cast. I tried to specify particularly damaging ones like psychopathy or narcissism, but something like autism or asperger's could conceivably fit under that umbrella. They are objectively not nearly as bad or even bad at all in most cases.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 27, 2014, 06:08:25 pm
I honestly don't see the problem with this statement. It's not like he said "I'll beat 'em where I meet 'em!"
Personally, I don't have a lot of sympathy for those "I tell everyone that I'm totally gay" people. Don't think that makes me a bad person now :lol:
Depends on what you are lacking sympathy for. Being a gay person who is extremely confident in their sexuality isn't something to be sympathetic towards in terms of pity or sorrow. But I think you can understand on a level that it's great to be able to be yourself. Which would make you sympathetic in a different way.
Not sure whether you meant you don't pity ""I tell everyone that I'm totally gay" people" or whether you meant you don't understand ""I tell everyone that I'm totally gay" people".
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: the real god emperor on June 27, 2014, 06:10:57 pm
OUR MAIN PROBLEM IS UMBRA HERE, NO ONE NEEDS ANOTHER LESHMA CRYBABY THREAD. FREE UMBRA
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Molly on June 27, 2014, 06:13:18 pm
I mean that I don't like those dumbfucks you meet at a party for the first time and they start a conversation with "Hello, nice to meet you. And at the first of our conversation I'd like you to know that I am gay!"
Most times, I turn around and look for someone else to talk to. When I am in the mood for it I'll ask him why he thinks that I give a fuck about who a completely strange dude is fucking with. I do not like those people. I do not care who they fuck with. I do not want to know who they fuck with. They are annoying and irritating.
Oww, it happened from a girl too once and I reacted the same way. "I am a lesbian." "And I don't give a fuck. Are you stupid or why are telling me this right now?" :evil:
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Miwiw on June 27, 2014, 06:13:47 pm
Molly probably means he doesnt like people that have the urge to tell you they're gay if they're indeed gay. That's like if we were telling other people we were straight. It doesn't matter and we don't give a fuck either.
And yes, those people exist. And if it's some popular guy, ie. a football player, the press directly says how "amazing and strong it is of him to tell others he's gay".
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 27, 2014, 06:23:32 pm
Gay doesn't necessarily mean you are fucking someone at the moment. Taking the party setting as an example, it might be important to ascertain potential hook-ups with more detail considering that being heterosexual is generally considered "default" at events etc not specifically catering to LGBT peeps. I hope you can imagine what this means without me writing another wall of text. Also, it is pretty big news in the sports world, because believe it or not, there are still a great deal of people who aren't ok with this. Perhaps some other people on this forum might be able to tell us why it would be a big deal in their country if someone came out on national media. No fingers pointed...
Edit: Umbra, Nanking was horrendous. Yes, it was a long time ago, but probably still holds great significance to people from all the countries involved, not least China, where there are still some victims alive, some of whom have families etc which may include some of the cRPG community. That's just my opinion.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Molly on June 27, 2014, 06:28:19 pm
Yea, well, I don't give a furry rat's ass about the sexual orientation of people I randomly met at a party being 3 minutes into the conversation. That's all I am saying...
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 27, 2014, 06:30:38 pm
Fair enough. Not even if you were interested in hooking up with said random person though?
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Molly on June 27, 2014, 06:47:46 pm
Edit: Umbra, Nanking was horrendous. Yes, it was a long time ago, but probably still holds great significance to people from all the countries involved, not least China, where there are still some victims alive, some of whom have families etc which may include some of the cRPG community. That's just my opinion.
Fucking meh. People have no problem talking shit about poles or russians or germans or french or et, despite massacres and loss of life just as great, and it's the exact same time frame. No one would blink if someone said "Dresden firebombing, best day of my life" or "Lololo Stalingrad was awesome". Asians are still stuck in the loathing their neighbours loop, they need to get over that shit. Although granted the ones who really need to take responsability and refuse to do so are the Japanese. And anyways it was obvious trolling. Just like Tore and all the other market rats who embrace the retarded greedy jew stereotype, haven't seen any of em get banned.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Miwiw on June 27, 2014, 06:56:52 pm
There's 1 billion chinese and they get more people every day, so better be careful! :P
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 27, 2014, 07:16:30 pm
Fucking meh. People have no problem talking shit about poles or russians or germans or french or et, despite massacres and loss of life just as great, and it's the exact same time frame. No one would blink if someone said "Dresden firebombing, best day of my life" or "Lololo Stalingrad was awesome". Asians are still stuck in the loathing their neighbours loop, they need to get over that shit. Although granted the ones who really need to take responsability and refuse to do so are the Japanese. And anyways it was obvious trolling. Just like Tore and all the other market rats who embrace the retarded greedy jew stereotype, haven't seen any of em get banned.
Fair points.
Bit of a conundrum isn't it? Being consistent would whittle down the community to boring "PC" farts like me who don't feel the need to make jokes out of such things. :lol:
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Lars on June 27, 2014, 07:19:14 pm
Can't believe Umbra is banned from the game as well, some ppl are too sensitive and emotional, it was just a joke, at least remove his in-game ban, please.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 27, 2014, 07:25:11 pm
Have mods confirmed it was the Nanking comment that got him banned (from game as well?!?!?!)?
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: LordBerenger on June 27, 2014, 07:48:31 pm
Tenno Heika Banzaiiiii!
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Falka on June 27, 2014, 07:54:23 pm
People have no problem talking shit about poles or russians or germans or french or et, despite massacres and loss of life just as great, and it's the exact same time frame.No one would blink if someone said "Dresden firebombing, best day of my life" or "Lololo Stalingrad was awesome". Asians are still stuck in the loathing their neighbours loop, they need to get over that shit.
Oh, the irony :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Oberyn
300k war casualties, not to mention the hundreds of thousands more civilians throughout the conflict, quite a few from allied bombings. Or entire villages razed to the ground at the slightest resistance. Totally deserved of course, those people weren't even human anyways, just frogs amiright?
You utter piece of shit, actually saying those people "deserved" to be killed, you better hope I never meet you in real life. (http://forum.melee.org/realism-discussion/french-wave-on-dtv/15/)
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Oberyn on June 27, 2014, 08:14:17 pm
Yeah, that's exactly my point. I never would've expected anyone to get banned for talking shit about the french in WW2. I didn't even bother reporting. You'd have to ban the majority of players. Getting personally pissed off over it is a different thing. Do you see the difference? Btw Umbra isn't game banned, just forum banned.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Lars on June 27, 2014, 08:20:43 pm
Can't believe Umbra is banned from the game as well, some ppl are too sensitive and emotional, it was just a joke, at least remove his in-game ban, please.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Teeth on June 27, 2014, 10:14:48 pm
Of course such a comment is complete insensitive but this is the damn internet. This forum and the ingame chat has been filled with racist or completely insensitive crap from the get-go. I have seen people ridiculing the holocaust a dozen times and nobody ever cared to do something about that. The consistency in punishing such comments is lacking and an insta-permaban is therefore unjustified. Should have been a 100% mute with a clear warning.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: the real god emperor on June 27, 2014, 10:28:54 pm
I think it is not the wisest thing to ban an everyday player / active user of forums because of an obviously troll statement he did on forums, I mean who is getting offended seriously? Would I care if you say 10.11.1938 best day of my life(yes I would 3 years ago) no I wouldn't, I don't fucking care I don't understand people who cares...
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Falka on June 27, 2014, 11:47:07 pm
I mean who is getting offended seriously? Would I care if you say 10.11.1938 best day of my life(yes I would 3 years ago) no I wouldn't, I don't fucking care I don't understand people who cares...
You fuckin' European bastards cant understand what's being a Turk.You just play cRPG with your huge asses on your computer.Sneaky noobs."Haha im a fat fucker so i can swear Turks and Mustafa Kemal!" Fuck off you trolls. No one likes you here. If only i saw Gazda or Panoguy in reel then you will see who is the "fucker". Faith in humanity; Fucked up. http://inciswf.com/gityaaat.swf
Get over it,kemal was a my old friend,thats ok,I once heard he liked to suck the cock of his horse :lol:
Get over it,kemal was a my old friend,thats ok,I once heard he liked to suck the cock of his horse :lol:
SOOOOOOO GAY
You can edit your posts, but you'll never escape the past :P
Ideas are flexible, you know. -_-
You wanted me to go full cCc for whole my life cus I thought it was the right way in some point in my life? That is the most stupid think to say man...
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Christo on June 28, 2014, 08:25:39 am
That is still so damn hilarious, editing every post to :
"cant really believe i posted those" , when you can read each of them because of quotes
:lol:
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: the real god emperor on June 28, 2014, 08:27:50 am
And you show a lack of experience. How do you "tolerate" a psychopath, a sociopath, a narcissist? Even something as "benign" as borderline personality disorder.
Not being a cunt is usually a good place to start.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: darmaster on June 28, 2014, 10:19:02 am
how did umbra take it? did he died? is he insulting someone, let's say an highly ranked nordmen, for no particular reason?
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Prpavi on June 28, 2014, 10:56:14 am
how did umbra take it? did he died? is he insulting someone, let's say an highly ranked nordmen, for no particular reason?
I met him in the neighborhood caffee yesterday coming from work. He was sitting there depressed drowning his sorrow in alcohol (not really), but yeah I saw him and he said himself the comment was uncalled for and ofc he doesn't really mean it, just a troll gone wrong. Hope there is still a chance the situation can be smoothened out once the heads are cool
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Christo on June 28, 2014, 11:48:36 am
I met him in the neighborhood caffee yesterday coming from work. He was sitting there depressed drowning his sorrow in alcohol (not really), but yeah I saw him and he said himself the comment was uncalled for and ofc he doesn't really mean it, just a troll gone wrong. Hope there is still a chance the situation can be smoothened out once the heads are cool
rip in pepperoni
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Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Panos_ on June 28, 2014, 11:50:12 am
^ I lkied this cuse I cri evrytiem
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: darmaster on June 28, 2014, 12:47:23 pm
umbra wi uill still fap finkin of you n0 worrees.
time for a free umbra 2014? someone needs to explain this to panos, he never took part in these protests dunno why
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Simon_Belmont on June 28, 2014, 12:59:03 pm
I mean that I don't like those dumbfucks you meet at a party for the first time and they start a conversation with "Hello, nice to meet you. And at the first of our conversation I'd like you to know that I am gay!"
Most times, I turn around and look for someone else to talk to. When I am in the mood for it I'll ask him why he thinks that I give a fuck about who a completely strange dude is fucking with. I do not like those people. I do not care who they fuck with. I do not want to know who they fuck with. They are annoying and irritating.
Oww, it happened from a girl too once and I reacted the same way. "I am a lesbian." "And I don't give a fuck. Are you stupid or why are telling me this right now?" :evil:
Homosexuality is one of the worst offenders in that matter (others being much more superficial prefferences like being a commie etc). Many people who can't wrap their minds around homosexuality like to ignore it, and it's not such a terrible solution. There will always be people who can't tolerate it because it's just not natural (not that I have anything against homosexuals), but of course there is always gay people who ENJOY being the centre of attention because of that "trait". Most do really seek for respect they deserve but others just feel the need to be tolerated and loved because they are not like us, poor heterosexual hummies. Why would I have to know what your sexual prefferences are? Because I must treat you differently? Just fuck off.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Radament on June 28, 2014, 01:13:23 pm
Of course such a comment is complete insensitive but this is the damn internet. This forum and the ingame chat has been filled with racist or completely insensitive crap from the get-go. I have seen people ridiculing the holocaust a dozen times and nobody ever cared to do something about that. The consistency in punishing such comments is lacking and an insta-permaban is therefore unjustified. Should have been a 100% mute with a clear warning.
sooooo....how about this ? teeth is right , i saw every type of racism harassment ingame and in the forums but fun thing is that who is writing "Heil einstein" in the game is going to be banned ingame for just some days BUT if you write "Trlolol best day of my life" in the forum you just condemned yourself to a perm ban (mods don't care about how much time you spent in this community and if you are a well known guy).
seriously , put an hand on your heart , unban him from the game (mute him on the forums tho) or force him to gain this by apologizing in the forums :twisted:
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Grumbs on June 28, 2014, 02:27:20 pm
IIRC Umbra got perma'd already for posting hardcore porn as an intentional way to get banned and leave the community. That led to chadz having to block people from seeing images on the site when not logged in I believe, and maybe had some other impact to do with google. He was probably treading on thin ice already
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: darmaster on June 28, 2014, 02:36:45 pm
he wasn't HE WASN'T tell them panos san!
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Lars on June 28, 2014, 05:09:07 pm
Keep Umbra permabanned on the forums, please remove his in-game ban.
Title: Re: What happened to Umbra?
Post by: Nessaj on June 28, 2014, 05:47:55 pm