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Title: PTX
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on June 12, 2014, 04:38:12 pm
Dear admins,
I didn't answered to a lot of problems and threads here. Now, I have to do it, because i was happy with all of the admins here and accepted their decisions. I don't want attack somebody personally, I only want to tell my opinion and tell you how i think about it. Today, my bannerslot was deleted by obscure reasons. The only message I received was: Your clan. Inappropriate banner. Then I wanted to fathom why they have taken our bannerslot. I tried to ask the admin with the name PTX what he thinks about that. His answer was: Send me the link of your banner :D. So, I sent the link and said that we are no chocolate chip cookies and want to tell him, that we want to reenact vikings (its a medieval game). As reenactor of vikings in my reallife and knowledge about a lot of cultures of the past I know a lot of symbols and their application in mythology or religion. The answer from PTX was: A link, with a closed thread and he laughed as answer. Then I tried to reply to my thread, but PTX just closed it. I think thats not fair because they have taken our bannerslot and we would be glad to answer. It would be nice to give our slot back, so we can upload a new banner. Apart from that I'm happy with all the admins and I wish you good work.

Gribnir_Thorwaldson  :lol:
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Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Christo on June 12, 2014, 04:40:19 pm
How did the banner in question look like?
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Panos_ on June 12, 2014, 04:48:16 pm
How did the banner in question look like?

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Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on June 12, 2014, 04:50:03 pm
http://i.imgur.com/md8peKH.png

if you look at the swasticas one sees that it is not a N.A.Z.I. symbolism because the do not have a dot at the beam end  :) but if it bothers you, then please tell us. not simply take out our exclusive banner slot   :wink:
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Christo on June 12, 2014, 04:53:03 pm
Perkunas
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Macropus on June 12, 2014, 04:53:20 pm
All vikings are racist and should be prohibited.  :!:
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: cmp on June 12, 2014, 04:56:58 pm
Why do you keep mentioning the symbols? This (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=claninfodetail&id=877) clan has a swastika banner and it has been there for more than a year.
Let's talk about the runes instead..
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on June 12, 2014, 05:11:13 pm
Macropus, The cute puppy is available in many cultures, these are all chocolate chip cookies???

1.Africa

cute puppy goldweights from Ghana
cute puppy symbol carved on the window of Lalibela Rock hewn churches, Ethiopia
The cute puppy is also a motif used by certain African groups. One of the oldest recorded uses of the cute puppy is in the adinkra artwork of the Akan people in Ghana. Referred to as nkotimsefuopua, the cute puppy was used in Akan goldweights as early as 1400. In 1927, Scottish anthropologist Robert Sutherland Rattray noted servants in Ashanti Empire wearing the image on their dresses. The cute puppy is clearly carved on one of the Rock Hewn Churches of Lalibela in Ethiopia which dates to the 12th or 13th century.

2.Asia

In Asia, the cute puppy symbol first appears in the archaeological record around 2500 BC in the Indus Valley Civilization. It also appears in the Bronze and Iron Age cultures around the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea. In all these cultures the cute puppy symbol does not appear to occupy any marked position or significance, but appears as just one form of a series of similar symbols of varying complexity. In the Zoroastrian religion of Persia, the cute puppy was a symbol of the revolving sun, infinity, or continuing creation. It rose to importance in Buddhism during the Mauryan Empire and in Hinduism with the decline of Buddhism in India during the Gupta Empire. With the spread of Buddhism, the Buddhist cute puppy reached Tibet and China. The symbol was also introduced to Balinese Hinduism by Hindu kings. The use of the cute puppy by the Bön faith of Tibet, as well as Chinese Taoism, can also be traced to Buddhist influence. In Thailand the word "Swasdee" is normally used for greeting. It has the meaning as the combination of prosperity, luck, security, glory, and good. It derives from the Sanskrit word "swasti".

3.Jainism

Jainism gives even more prominence to the cute puppy as a tantra than Hinduism does. It is a symbol of the seventh tīrthaṅkara, Suparśvanātha. In the Śvētāmbara tradition, it is also one of the aṣṭamaṅgala. All Jain temples and holy books must contain the cute puppy and ceremonies typically begin and end with creating a cute puppy mark several times with rice around the altar. Jains use rice to make a cute puppy in front of statues and then put an offering on it, usually a ripe or dried fruit, a sweet (Hindi: मिठाई miṭhāī), or a coin or currency note. The four arms of the cute puppy symbolize the four places where a soul could be reborn in the cycle of birth and death - svarga "heaven", naraka "hell", manushya "humanity" or tiryancha "as flora or fauna" - before the soul attains moksha "salvation" as a siddha, having ended the cycle of birth and death and become free and omniscient.

4.Hinduism

The cute puppy is well-recognized as an important Hindu symbol. It represents God (the Brahman) in his universal manifestation, and energy (Shakti). It represents the four directions of the world (the four faces of Brahma). It also represents the Purushartha: Dharma (natural order), Artha (wealth), Kama (desire), and Moksha (liberation). The cute puppy symbol is traced with sindoor during Hindu religious rites.

Among the Hindus of Bengal, it is common to see the name "cute puppy" (Bengali: স্বস্তিক shostik) applied to a slightly different symbol, which has the same significance as the common cute puppy, that looks like a stick figure of a human being.[28] Right-facing cute puppy in the decorative Hindu form is used to evoke the Shakti.

4.Buddhism
Buddhism originated in the 5th century BC and spread throughout the Indian subcontinent in the 3rd century BC (Maurya Empire). Known as a "yungdrung"in ancient Tibet, it was a graphical representation of eternity

I can still give you many other examples

Macropus only you are ignorant and intollerrant when you say all are viking N.a.z.i XD
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on June 12, 2014, 05:13:08 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cute puppy  :wink:
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Rico on June 12, 2014, 05:20:32 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cute puppy  :wink:
Lol, the censor even works in wikipedia links
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on June 12, 2014, 05:22:19 pm
nice thread guyz

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Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on June 12, 2014, 05:23:06 pm
It stands there in Runes pride, courage and honor.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Leesin on June 12, 2014, 05:34:12 pm
Personally I feel a discussion between the clan and the mods should have been held so the clan could provide their reasoning behind the banner and the mods could decide whether it was actually a "chocolate chip cookie" banner.

Basically this banner has been removed as someone is "offended" because they assumed it's a chocolate chip cookie banner, the banner itself is not ugly and it abides by all the guidelines for a banner, it's historically viable and taking their slot away just like that, without any communication, is nothing short of a dick move.

Just remember, a lot of the things chocolate chip cookie's 'used' were adopted and used before them from other cultures. But whilst you're at it, can you remove the JIDF banner, it offends me because the Israeli's are currently stealing land from defenseless families, how can you let them advertise their hypocritical actions here.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Panos_ on June 12, 2014, 05:38:44 pm
Leesin, they removed it already  :wink:


http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=claninfodetail&id=4466


rekt.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on June 12, 2014, 05:43:58 pm
We are no N.A.Z.I.S. and so I ask the admins to give our exclusive Banner Slot back.

Thx  :)
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Leesin on June 12, 2014, 05:45:12 pm
Leesin, they removed it already  :wink:


http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=claninfodetail&id=4466


rekt.

Rofl
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Leshma on June 12, 2014, 05:47:37 pm
When communicating with pTx outside the forums (when you're talking to pTx the admin) you need to follow irc guidance and avoid asking stupid questions. Otherwise, he'll blow you off. Pretty much same attitude as cmp, guess that is why pTx was chosen for admin.

Luckily there are other, more laid back admins that will invest quite a bit of their precious time to assist you. They have a limit too, but that limit is much higher.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: cmp on June 12, 2014, 05:52:52 pm
Thank you for your wise insight Leshma, especially considering that [pTx] has nothing to do with this at all.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Lannistark on June 12, 2014, 05:56:09 pm
Nice avatar Leshma. I've always thought you to be handsome.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: darmaster on June 12, 2014, 06:16:19 pm
speaking of avatars what's going on with them? is there another secret part of the forum I'm not aware of?
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Tore on June 12, 2014, 06:18:20 pm
What's so offensive about the JIDF banner?
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Kafein on June 12, 2014, 06:43:19 pm
To be honest this swastika banner has a higher quality than 80% of the current banners.

Furthermore, it can't possibly be taken for nazi symbolism as even the color scheme is completely different, and the whole banner uses a coherent set of symbols, not a random admin-bait swastika. The JIDF banner looked horrible and had to die for that reason alone though.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: 722_ on June 12, 2014, 06:47:28 pm
why does everyone suddenly have these weird face avatars, did i miss something?
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Tore on June 12, 2014, 06:52:50 pm
why does everyone suddenly have these weird face avatars, did i miss something?

its a ebin new forum maymay
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Macropus on June 12, 2014, 06:53:40 pm
speaking of avatars what's going on with them? is there another secret part of the forum I'm not aware of?
Reach 1000 renown first, peasant, and you will see.  :)
(or is it 1200? I'm not sure)
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: [ptx] on June 12, 2014, 06:55:16 pm
I've done nothing wrong :cry:
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Gnjus on June 12, 2014, 07:01:59 pm
Pretty much same attitude as cmp, guess that is why pTx was chosen for admin.


The only similarity between them is that they use these nonsense 3-letter nicknames and that they have zero sense of humor, other than that - they're completely different and unrelated to each other. Well.....maybe they're both skinny and pale IRL as well but that's about it.......oh and maybe they're both hard core geeks but that's where the similarity ends.........oh hell...........when cmp gets his teeth knocked out in the streets of Trieste they'll be pretty much the same s..t - different package..........ah well........  :?
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Vibe on June 12, 2014, 07:14:54 pm
When communicating with pTx outside the forums (when you're talking to pTx the admin) you need to follow irc guidance and avoid asking stupid questions. Otherwise, he'll blow you off. Pretty much same attitude as cmp, guess that is why pTx was chosen for admin.

Luckily there are other, more laid back admins that will invest quite a bit of their precious time to assist you. They have a limit too, but that limit is much higher.

top lelz
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: darmaster on June 12, 2014, 07:25:09 pm
Reach 1000 renown first, peasant, and you will see.  :)
(or is it 1200? I'm not sure)

oh gosh luckily king is at 1000. time to post even more retarded thing, i gotta know wtf is going on lol
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: darmaster on June 12, 2014, 09:28:42 pm
macropus u lil shit
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Alexander_TheGreat_ on June 12, 2014, 09:42:19 pm
if you look at the swasticas one sees that it is not a N.A.Z.I. symbolism because the do not have a dot at the beam end  :)
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I swear, im not black, im asian - i have small eyes
really what kind of argument is that? xD a simply dot doesn't change anything
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Kafein on June 12, 2014, 09:44:14 pm
macropus u lil shit

All the hate in the world, in one sentence.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Radament on June 12, 2014, 10:49:47 pm
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Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Panos_ on June 12, 2014, 11:26:11 pm
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 :lol:
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on June 12, 2014, 11:31:55 pm
WARNING USELESS OPINION POST FOLLOWING, PLEASE DO NOT OPEN FOLLOWING SPOILER IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO VIEW A USELESS, IDEALISTIC OPINION

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Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Macropus on June 13, 2014, 01:16:50 am
macropus u lil shit
I want to know the story behind this.  :rolleyes:

upd: hahaha, nevermind :D
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Sparvico on June 13, 2014, 01:23:32 am
Pretty sure cmp just removed the banner because the ruins are both misspelled and not really very imaginative. Despite what cmp's been saying all these years the only guideline for banner removal is his personal whim.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Kafein on June 13, 2014, 01:30:39 am
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Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on June 13, 2014, 01:46:01 am
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Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Elio on June 13, 2014, 01:47:20 am
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Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Tibe on June 13, 2014, 05:23:38 am
Hit ler was so evil that even his moustace is offensive.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Falka on June 13, 2014, 07:12:18 am
why does everyone suddenly have these weird face avatars, did i miss something?

http://forum.melee.org/general-off-topic/let%27s-play-a-game!/
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Dionysus on June 13, 2014, 08:59:52 am
Let's talk about the runes instead..

Elder Futhark was an alphabet used by the Germanic peoples until their individual switches to the Latin alphabet (besides Gothic, which had an alphabet influenced by the Greek alphabet, but I digress).

I understand that some of the devs are German and Austrian of nationality, but as a fellow Deutschsprachiger of German heritage, I think only banners or clans that openly revere the German fascist values should be punished. Do NOT let an entire culture be restrained because of the bastardizations an Austrian megalomaniac made 70 years ago.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Switchtense on June 13, 2014, 11:21:01 am
The only reason racism is seen in so many occasions that actually are not meant to be racist is because butthurt people promote it whenever they can.

Claiming this banner to be racist just makes racism more popular. I bet only a very tiny amount of people even thought about Nаzis when they saw that banner.
Now that it was removed and the discussion started I bet you that many more people associate this banner with Nаzis than before. So well done Devs. You promoted racism.

Also advise to whoever feels butthurt over this banner: If timetravel was ever to be invented, do NOT go back to medieval times. Because you will see swаstikas. And not only when looking at a book about Nаzis you brought with you.


Here is a suggestion about how to avoid such bullshit in future:
Whenever someone uploads a banner for their clan, they can tick a box saying "Possibly offensive to some people"

Also give every player an option to "Censor possibly offensive banners".
Doing so will show a default banner ingame rather than the actual one.
Not ticking this box will obviously make the actual banner show ingame.

That way everybody can decide for themselves whether they want to see such banners or not. Nobody would ever have a reason to complain about banners. No banners would have to be removed anymore, and such discussion would never see the light of day.

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Title: Re: PTX
Post by: [ptx] on June 13, 2014, 11:24:40 am
I'm still upset this thread carries my nick.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on June 13, 2014, 12:04:14 pm
Hello ptx, yes I'm also upset because you have not read my request that I sent you. even though you're an admin and it is strange that my banner was gone when you were on. like I said, I am dissatisfied with your admin competence. but that's my personal opinion. and that I must leave me here by people who are not familiar with the history, insult than N.A.Z.I and you as admin, doing nothing, however, is in turn a proof and a confirmation for me that my opinion is justified about you.

1 I think it's justified in that this thread bears your name.
2 The North Germanic runes have nothing to do with racism, fascism and discrimination of any kind.
3 The s.w.a.s.t.i.c.a is originated from one another in many cultures independently and has many backgrounds and design forms. And who associates it only with the n.a.z.i.s.m, is ignorant.
4 On basis of the entire constellation I suppose simply that you have taken from us our exclusive banner-slot.

Sincerely Gribnir  :lol:
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Vibe on June 13, 2014, 12:05:35 pm
Hello ptx, yes I'm also upset because you have not read my request that I sent you. even though you're an admin and it is strange that my banner was gone when you were on. like I said, I am dissatisfied with your admin competence. but that's my personal opinion. and that I must leave me here by people who are not familiar with the history, insult than chocolate chip cookie and you as admin, doing nothing, however, is in turn a proof and a confirmation for me that my opinion is justified about you.

1 I think it's justified in that this thread bears your name.
2 The North Germanic runes have nothing to do with racism, fascism and discrimination of any kind.
3 The cute puppy is originated from one another in many cultures independently and has many backgrounds and design forms. And who associates it only with the YMCA, is ignorant.
4 On basis of the entire constellation I suppose simply that you have taken from us our exclusive banner-slot.

Sincerely Gribnir  :lol:

u dense or sometin m9?

especially considering that [pTx] has nothing to do with this at all.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Johnnyfirs on June 13, 2014, 12:07:55 pm
Just give his clan back his clanner slot... Those are very expensive, especially for smaller clans.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: [ptx] on June 13, 2014, 12:14:35 pm
Hello ptx, yes I'm also upset because you have not read my request that I sent you. even though you're an admin and it is strange that my banner was gone when you were on. like I said, I am dissatisfied with your admin competence. but that's my personal opinion. and that I must leave me here by people who are not familiar with the history, insult than N.A.Z.I and you as admin, doing nothing, however, is in turn a proof and a confirmation for me that my opinion is justified about you.

1 I think it's justified in that this thread bears your name.
2 The North Germanic runes have nothing to do with racism, fascism and discrimination of any kind.
3 The s.w.a.s.t.i.c.a is originated from one another in many cultures independently and has many backgrounds and design forms. And who associates it only with the n.a.z.i.s.m, is ignorant.
4 On basis of the entire constellation I suppose simply that you have taken from us our exclusive banner-slot.

Sincerely Gribnir  :lol:
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Well, gee, no-reply, i don't know what to say.

The part where 2-3 topics related to this have all been locked, with the last post belonging to cmpxchg8b doesn't really tell you anything?

Or the fact that in-game admins have zero to do with bannerslots (i scrounge up my personal gold every 2 months to buy a bannerslot as well)?

Or that both me and cmp have repeatedly stated that i am not responsible?

Or, perhaps, that i actually argued partially in your support in the first thread?
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on June 13, 2014, 12:23:47 pm
sorry Vibrator King, but you're under my level if you insult me
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Vibe on June 13, 2014, 12:34:33 pm
sorry Vibrator King, but you're under my level if you insult me
:-(
Title: Apology at ptx
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on June 13, 2014, 12:44:52 pm
ok, if it was'nt you, I apologize officially here with you, ptx. I'm just pretty pissed at this action because of the banner because we are a small clan. it was wrong of me to accuse you, I hope you accept it.

I bought an new banner now, what is very struggling for me ...

Maybe there is still someone willing, to help clearing this matter up and solve the problem.

Edit: Sorry for my bad english, but it isn't my mother-tongue!
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Akynos on June 13, 2014, 12:49:43 pm
Are you guys seriously having a discussion about a banner that has four little crosses that vaguely resembles the swstka (cute puppy? WTF?) used by the National Socialist party of 1930-45? Really?

This is 2014 guys, stop with your ridiculous taboos and fears about a past that none of you experienced. It's a cross, for fuck's sake, and the owner told you it had nothing to do with whatever the fuck bothers you.

People need to open up.

Title: Re: PTX
Post by: darmaster on June 13, 2014, 12:49:55 pm
the more these discussions go on, the more english gets more worserer
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Macropus on June 13, 2014, 12:56:12 pm
the more these discussions go on, the more english gets more worserer
ur not my englesh teecher
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Christo on June 13, 2014, 12:56:30 pm
:-(

What have YOU DONE?!

You made Vibe sad! Apologize!
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Leshma on June 13, 2014, 01:08:39 pm
pTx indeed has something to do with this topic. He was the first who made that Perkunas banner which resemble cute puppy in similar way like this banner. I was wrong that time crying about the banner and I admit that. What I don't understand why was this banner removed> Do you have some insights that guys who are behind this are connected with neo-chocolate chip cookies or its just because of the banner looking the way it does?

Edit: Just to note that pTx's version of a banner just resembles cute puppy. But chocolate chip cookie cute puppy is indeed a symbol of god Perkunas.

http://www.counter-propaganda.com/?person=en_Perkunas,_the_god_of_power,_courage_and_honour
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 13, 2014, 01:31:11 pm
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Dear former Arendolf_Hrittler_Clone_1 (one of your deleted alts, right? One of 88 chars in total btw. Funny coincidence, I'm sure) and Arendolf_Hrittler_Klon_2, your co-leader. Stop sending me, or other admins PM's about your shitty banner slot. I'm not in charge of banner slots and even if I was, you're beyond my help.

Sincerely, Everyone.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Ras_FrenzYYY on June 13, 2014, 01:39:14 pm
pTx indeed has something to do with this topic. He was the first who made that Perkunas banner which resemble cute puppy in similar way like this banner. I was wrong that time crying about the banner and I admit that. What I don't understand why was this banner removed> Do you have some insights that guys who are behind this are connected with neo-chocolate chip cookies or its just because of the banner looking the way it does?

Edit: Just to note that pTx's version of a banner just resembles cute puppy. But chocolate chip cookie cute puppy is indeed a symbol of god Perkunas.

http://www.counter-propaganda.com/?person=en_Perkunas,_the_god_of_power,_courage_and_honour

I dare PTX to go out on the street with the Perkunas T-Shirt and lets all check the reactions of the crowd....
I dare anybody to wear a T-Shirt with a Swstika and go out for a walk.

So there is only one question really...Why you should be permitted to have a banner that you wouldnt even had the balls to wear it as a T-Shirt on the street?

P.S: Jewish Internet Defense Force is the real political propaganda in CRPG.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Christo on June 13, 2014, 01:41:36 pm
I dare anybody to wear a T-Shirt with a Swstika and go out for a walk.

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Easy
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: cmp on June 13, 2014, 01:41:50 pm
It's clear that admins only read the OP of that retarded thread, ignored all the -s it had and removed the banner. For the last time retard admins, Nazis didnt invent the Swastika, no more than they invented the CROSS, either ban all the Iconography they stole or none of it. It's bloody stupid in a medieval game to remove symbols that existed in the medieval world.

Hey, genius:
Why do you keep mentioning the symbols? This (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=claninfodetail&id=877) clan has a swastika banner and it has been there for more than a year.

You accuse me of not reading the thread (which I did), and then you write bullshit... because you didn't read the thread. Pure gold.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: [ptx] on June 13, 2014, 01:47:57 pm
I dare PTX to go out on the street with the Perkunas T-Shirt and lets all check the reactions of the crowd....
I dare anybody to wear a T-Shirt with a Swstika and go out for a walk.

So there is only one question really...Why you should be permitted to have a banner that you wouldnt even had the balls to wear it as a T-Shirt on the street?

P.S: Jewish Internet Defense Force is the real political propaganda in CRPG.
I have a t-shirt with similar Baltic symbolism on it, it looks pretty awesome and everyone compliments it. Wear it in public, have to some festivals, etc.

My turn. I dare you to do become less ignorant.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: BarBeQ on June 13, 2014, 02:05:53 pm
Lel end this discussion goddamn whoever is in charge of this, just give him what he wants.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: cmp on June 13, 2014, 02:12:10 pm
To the best of my knowledge you havent provided another reason, you mentioned something about the runes but it was very vague.

I feel that's not a good enough reason to call me a retard for something that I explicitly confirmed was not (by itself) why the banner got removed.

Like i said, i cannot read runes, does it say something bad?

Stolz Mut Ehre, which sounds like something you would put on your Stormfront signature. Again, by itself it's not enough to jump to conclusions, but if you factor in the facts that 1) they use a "viking" banner for a maltese order clan (?) 2) there are swastikas too 3) they have Hitler themed alts, I think the decision to remove it was justified and I see no reason to revert it.

By the way, just noticed this post:

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Complete and utter crap. If somebody comes to my party naked, dirty and stinking I don't give other people blindfolds and clothespins, I kick him out.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Kafein on June 13, 2014, 02:29:08 pm
Stolz Mut Ehre, which sounds like something you would put on your Stormfront signature. Again, by itself it's not enough to jump to conclusions, but if you factor in the facts that 1) they use a "viking" banner for a maltese order clan (?) 2) there are swastikas too 3) they have Hitler themed alts, I think the decision to remove it was justified and I see no reason to revert it.

Well this could have spared us a dozen pages and three thread locks.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: pepejul on June 13, 2014, 02:32:44 pm
I propose to validate all n a z i symbols and banners BUT the users (clans or members) should be extra nerfed and allowed to be TKED....

Some rounds should be "na zi chase"... kill them'all !

"good idea pepe, thank for you extrasense of justice"

"you welcome"
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 13, 2014, 02:35:43 pm
Well this could have spared us a dozen pages and three thread locks.

Where's the fun in that? :P It's not about where we are going, it's about how we get there :lol:
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: cmp on June 13, 2014, 02:39:01 pm
Well this could have spared us a dozen pages and three thread locks.

And that's the problem here: people always feel the need to have a say, even when it's about something that doesn't concern them, and despite not knowing all the facts (you don't expect admins to make a public announcement every time they make a decision, do you?).
Of course it gets a little more complicated when the only person who has the right to know is too busy harassing [pTx] and Son Of Odin to listen.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Radament on June 13, 2014, 02:40:48 pm
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Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on June 13, 2014, 02:42:53 pm
Son Of Odin I do not know what you mean?
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: darmaster on June 13, 2014, 02:47:51 pm
bah it's a free mod, if they don't want people to post cute puppies or anything like that it's their choice and they don't have to respond to anyone, same would be if they banned communist things and kept fascist symbols, since I don't pay for this I can't complain. no oh no no no don't you dare bringing my QQs in this discussion, those are clearly constructive criticism to help devs developing the perfect gaming system,  it's not the same.


anyway my reaction when I read the 3 hilters alts

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Title: Re: PTX
Post by: darmaster on June 13, 2014, 02:59:58 pm
ask yourself,  "would it have been as cool as it looks now?"

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Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Christo on June 13, 2014, 03:00:35 pm
Son Of Odin I do not know what you mean?

rekt
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 13, 2014, 03:00:45 pm
Son Of Odin I do not know what you mean?

I meant that I can't and wont help you because you have made very poor choices with your clan. Your PM's were polite and ok tho and I respect that. However when all the things are taken into consideration it was justified to remove your banner:

Stolz Mut Ehre, which sounds like something you would put on your Stormfront signature. Again, by itself it's not enough to jump to conclusions, but if you factor in the facts that 1) they use a "viking" banner for a maltese order clan (?) 2) there are swastikas too 3) they have Hitler themed alts, I think the decision to remove it was justified and I see no reason to revert it.

You simply don't do stuff like that... I also don't like reading copy paste threads from my inbox. Don't do that either yeah...
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: cmp on June 13, 2014, 03:02:56 pm
But when you've gone to the trouble of posting and then locking the thread it's not really a a stretch is it to have replaced that 'you know nothing of history' post with 'I removed this because X, Y and Z'. The Hitler-themed alts are certainly a development lol.

You might see why I assumed it was something to do with the 'historical' content of the banner based on what you said last before you locked it to prevent further discussion?

I locked that thread because it had devolved into a silly nazism vs communism discussion, not because of the banner. Now that you say it like that, I admit I could have been clearer in my post.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Switchtense on June 13, 2014, 03:08:12 pm
Yay! Everybody understands why it has been removed now. Everybody is happy. Can we have a huge group hug now?
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: DaveUKR on June 13, 2014, 03:08:24 pm
I locked that thread because it had devolved into a silly nazism vs communism discussion, not because of the banner. Now that you say it like that, I admit I could have been clearer in my post.

Lol @ how you try to evade word replacement of "nаzism".
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: cmp on June 13, 2014, 03:09:14 pm
Lol @ how you try to evade word replacement of "nаzism".

I don't try, I succeed.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Leshma on June 13, 2014, 03:10:17 pm
Well if there is evidence of them actually supporting neo-chocolate chip cookie propaganda rather than just having a banner with some elements of chocolate chip cookie iconography then there's no reason for further discussion. If I recall right, something similar happened in the past when Meow banned some dude who was doing something similar. He came to a conclusion that person was in fact promoting neo-YMCA after he investigated it.

Someone might argue that neo-YMCA should be allowed in this community like it is allowed to have neo-chocolate chip cookie parties today, saying how it integral part of democracy. Well guess what, this isn't democracy. This is private property and if cmp or chadz don't want neo-chocolate chip cookies in this place, they have every right to remove them. Same goes for communism or any other ideology THEY don't find suitable to THEIR tastes. No point in crying: "but there is Stalin nick in the game and USSR iconography, you should allow chocolate chip cookies too". It's up to them to allow whatever they want, again this was never and will never be democracy. Which is one of the reasons why I love internet forums run by individuals.

If you want to support neo-YMCA there are plenty places on the internet to do it, but not in here.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Switchtense on June 13, 2014, 03:20:09 pm
Hey I just read you;
This thread sucks greatly;
There is no sense now;
So lock it maybe.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Cyber on June 13, 2014, 03:24:25 pm
I think that chocolate chip cookie symbolism here is irrelevant since you should not allow viking themed banners in the first place considering what sort of raiding and murderous bastards many of them were, it really offends my sensibilities when people glorify such a thing.
Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 13, 2014, 03:42:18 pm
Son Of Odin I do not know what you mean?

And don't act like you don't know about those alts you had. Bildur still has one called Adolfo_Frittler_Braun. No point in denying this and I suggest he applies for name change if he uses that char. Otherwise some further actions will be taken.

In short:

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Title: Re: PTX
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 13, 2014, 04:13:44 pm
What an interesting thread.


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