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Title: next strategus round?
Post by: Latvian on April 16, 2014, 09:44:39 pm
Will there even be next strategus round? i mean there isnt any clan left that would fight UIF ( i am not speaking about NA )so is there actualy any point in making more of this?  Current round is basically over because when drz will just go north and nobody will fight them, they will just give up all fights.Sad.... strategus realy had potential :(
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Fips on April 16, 2014, 10:04:36 pm
Nope. This strategus was over when it began. Not sure what kind of illusions you had about the outcome of this strat.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Osiris on April 16, 2014, 10:05:44 pm
maybe he thought everyone who isnt uif would suddenly be friends and win :D unlike last round where it was mostly friends for ages and then still lost
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Algarn on April 16, 2014, 11:46:59 pm
If there have to be another round, I would love so fucking much UIF to get their own map, seriously, always killing the same foes over time made strat just useless, and as there isn't any fun or xp to get from it, don't even expect people to spend their time playing this shit. When you see factions that are inside of the UIF can fight a battle with their own clan's members, plus got better equipment than the AI ones, and every other european clan that can't even fill a fucking roster once for any battle, without talking about equipment; you just come to the conclusion we aren't playing on same grounds. UIF want a fucking block to fight them, whereas everyone else want to do their own stuff and starting new wars with changing diplomatic relations. Therefore, I'm asking there a new strat map for UIF, with battles that happen on EU 3, and another strat map for everyone else. I think it's a fair proposition.

(PS : add a CHN strat)
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Vengt037 on April 17, 2014, 07:23:27 am
Why don't you guys form a single faction to fight UIF?
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Aksei on April 17, 2014, 10:42:12 am
Quote from: Vengt037 on April 17, 2014, 07:23:27 am
Why don't you guys form a single faction to fight UIF?

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Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Torben on April 17, 2014, 10:48:54 am
I'd love to see a shorter strat round with two defined teams next time. 
Hopefully somebody understands what i mean in that post ^^

http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/strategus-arena/msg990001/#msg990001

edit to clarify:

strat is anounced.

players that want to join in on the map apply. (the whole community can roster for battles,  just the amount of people on the map is limited)

two commanders are appointed.  they pic their team turn based.  there is a limited amount of guys that can join (to provide a real functioning team)

then the hole team spawns on the map in one home fief on opposite sides of the map,  starts building economy and military and fight it out.  winner is the man with most fiefs after 4 weeks.

again:  in battles the whole community can roster.  only the action on the map is restricted to two small teams of 50 players or so,  to provide teams that actually work together.


hope its better understandable now : )
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Cicero on April 17, 2014, 10:54:23 am
Quote from: Algarn on April 16, 2014, 11:46:59 pm
If there have to be another round, I would love so fucking much UIF to get their own map, seriously, always killing the same foes over time made strat just useless, and as there isn't any fun or xp to get from it, don't even expect people to spend their time playing this shit. When you see factions that are inside of the UIF can fight a battle with their own clan's members, plus got better equipment than the AI ones, and every other european clan that can't even fill a fucking roster once for any battle, without talking about equipment; you just come to the conclusion we aren't playing on same grounds. UIF want a fucking block to fight them, whereas everyone else want to do their own stuff and starting new wars with changing diplomatic relations. Therefore, I'm asking there a new strat map for UIF, with battles that happen on EU 3, and another strat map for everyone else. I think it's a fair proposition.

(PS : add a CHN strat)

Ah didnt thought about that lets make Polish - Russian  // EU  // NA so we can have 3 map but make sure that Russian - Polish can never cross to any map or let them take islands :)

I want a map that noone gets an ally and every small clans can fight each other so diplomacy and wars would be really fun.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Harpag on April 17, 2014, 11:37:30 am
New rounds? Why? After all you will lose again before a new round begins... pff

Call for McDonald's help and try or simply ignore us and whole map will be yours from now lol

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Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Fips on April 17, 2014, 11:50:58 am
Quote from: Harpag on April 17, 2014, 11:37:30 am
New rounds? Why? After all you will lose again before a new round begins... pff

Call for McDonald's help and try or simply ignore us and whole map will be yours from now lol

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I'm quite sure i won't be alone in just completely ignoring strat until UIF falls apart of boredom, IF there will ever be another strat round. You didn't have a proper opponent this round and i don't think you will ever have one again, like Coalition was.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 17, 2014, 06:18:29 pm
People sure love their pixel crack...
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Man of Steel on April 17, 2014, 07:36:58 pm
UIF wants to show us just that they are the best/greatest clan, they just want to win this rund again. At the end of the last rund they had so many shiny armed troops and they didn't even made exp battles
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Austrian on April 17, 2014, 07:52:54 pm
Quote from: Vengt037 on April 17, 2014, 07:23:27 am
Why don't you guys form a single faction to fight UIF?
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Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on April 17, 2014, 08:03:14 pm
Quote from: Harpag on April 17, 2014, 11:37:30 am
New rounds? Why? After all you will lose again before a new round begins... pff

Call for McDonald's help and try or simply ignore us and whole map will be yours from now lol

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Stfu and stop stealing our cars
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Kalp on April 17, 2014, 09:09:54 pm
Quote from: Grumpy_Nic on April 17, 2014, 08:03:14 pm
Stfu and stop stealing our cars
Grumpy, are you from Germany ? And which cars do you mean ? How does this relate to the topic ?
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on April 17, 2014, 09:15:39 pm
Quote from: Kalp on April 17, 2014, 09:09:54 pm
Grumpy, are you from Germany ? And which cars do you mean ? How does this relate to the topic ?

No I'm not. I mean cars in general. It doesnt.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Smoothrich on April 17, 2014, 09:27:17 pm
This is like the tenth thread I've seen since this Strat started that is nothing but people saying "if only UIF weren't in this game.. then we could have fun and attack each other like we want to all along.. I'm quitting Strat until Grey and DRZ finally fight"

So... why don't you just attack each other? Instead of sitting back, doing absolutely nothing to provide the community with XP or battles, and endlessly accusing others of pulling the exact shit you are doing? Except that I've never seen UIF clans delete tens of thousands of troops and gear like Coalition did last strat when they GTX so no one could have any fun.

And if the excuse is, "BUT THEN UIF WILL JUMP US WHILE WE ARE DISTRACTED" then you truly got every base covered on justifying being little bitches instead of actually PLaying the Game
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Spurdospera on April 17, 2014, 09:57:47 pm
Quote from: Smoothrich on April 17, 2014, 09:27:17 pm
Except that I've never seen UIF clans delete tens of thousands of troops and gear like Coalition did last strat when they GTX so no one could have any fun.
Well, we tried to give them all to Segd of DRZ to have these XP battles, but other DRZ guys didn´t like like it and kicked Segd out of clan.
After that all burned.  :wink:

And Smoothrich, have you any idea how unfun it was for Rogue to organize all the coalition shit for like 10months almost alone? Try doing that before bitching about stuff you don´t know single fuck about. Why would we have cared about your "fun" when all our allies had GTX months before (yes, looking at mercs). Burning all seemed really reasonable idea since nobody wanted to do anything anymore.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: ARN_ on April 17, 2014, 10:32:32 pm
Quote from: Spurdospera on April 17, 2014, 09:57:47 pm
Well, we tried to give them all to Segd of DRZ to have these XP battles, but other DRZ guys didn´t like like it and kicked Segd out of clan.
After that all burned.  :wink:

And Smoothrich, have you any idea how unfun it was for Rogue to organize all the coalition shit for like 10months almost alone? Try doing that before bitching about stuff you don´t know single fuck about. Why would we have cared about your "fun" when all our allies had GTX months before (yes, looking at mercs). Burning all seemed really reasonable idea since nobody wanted to do anything anymore.
You could just have given everything to Kalmars and we would have given the community some war and exp :wink:
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Teeth on April 17, 2014, 10:39:34 pm
Strategus is dead, get over it already. Devs designed the game without overregulating it thinking the players themselves would roleplay and make it work, but they didn't take the Eastern 'for glorious motherland' mentality into account.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Fips on April 17, 2014, 10:40:03 pm
Quote from: ARN_97 on April 17, 2014, 10:32:32 pm
You could just have given everything to Kalmars and we would have given the community some war and exp :wink:

We could have just attacked each other as well. But you don't do that, if the enemy doesn't allow his members to engage in fun battles after an eternity of stalemate. Instead you tell em to fuck off and GTX.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Tindel on April 18, 2014, 02:27:50 am
Next round of strategus will start in Januari 2015.


Have fun until then! (lol)


Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Jaren on April 18, 2014, 07:29:47 am
Unfortunate to see this... I do enjoy Strat for the Roleplay value. Albeit we ourselves as the majority of NA are shitlord drama king's/queen's/asshole's, that somehow involve more personal emotion then quick and flaccid retorts to settle diplomatic agenda's... Instead we brood, harboring more and more malcontent towards one another sitting on riches; till eventually... Rounds over.

What I'd like to see;
EU's take a chance in NA, find some friends, hell even invite us to teamspeak and vice versa.
Perhaps in time/effort between mutual agreements, land can be traded and you can establish a playable foothold. (though dealing with shitty ping)

You'll be able to effectively join YUMAD-fest 2014!
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: GRANDMOM on April 18, 2014, 08:09:04 am
Quote from: Smoothrich on April 17, 2014, 09:27:17 pm

So... why don't you just attack each other? Instead of sitting back, doing absolutely nothing to provide the community with XP or battles, and endlessly accusing others of pulling the exact shit you are doing?

But we are attacking each other - if you know nothing about something - please restrain from letting your internal brainwash spill out in the forum - using up good space
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Vovka on April 18, 2014, 08:19:02 am
Quote from: Spurdospera on April 17, 2014, 09:57:47 pm
but other DRZ guys didn´t like like it and kicked Segd out of clan.
Segd was kicked our from clan cos he dont like Putin as we do  :twisted:
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Cicero on April 18, 2014, 11:51:35 am
Quote from: Vovka on April 18, 2014, 08:19:02 am
Segd was kicked our from clan cos he dont like Putin as we do  :twisted:
our from clan cos we go he go us they he kicked our was he putin from.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Fips on April 18, 2014, 12:04:27 pm
Quote from: Cicero on April 18, 2014, 11:51:35 am
our from clan cos we go he go us they he kicked our was he putin from.

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Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Zaharist on April 18, 2014, 03:05:45 pm
Quote from: Teeth on April 17, 2014, 10:39:34 pm
Strategus is dead, get over it already. Devs designed the game without overregulating it thinking the players themselves would roleplay and make it work, but they didn't take the Eastern 'for glorious motherland' mentality into account.

well

no

frankly they didn't take the western "I can't win, the round is over before it has begun, I'd better go crying and making some QQ threads"


you seem to be clever boy, I guess you do understand that blaming each other is stupid, because both sides are playing the way they like. So why the hell "for glorious motherland" as you say is the bad way to play Strat? Cause pinguin, fips and their crying company think this is the bad way?
Enormous alliance were since the very beginning of the strat, UIF was not 1st and not even 2nd, also not the last one, but, unfortunately for you, much better then others.
You both (UIF and others) killed strat, being not able to REGULATE, as you say. deal with it and stop blaming anyone except yourself, it would be much cleverer then what you are doing now.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Algarn on April 18, 2014, 03:22:15 pm
UIF is the reason itself of the lack of fun in strat. Don't even try to say no, you are trying to force people to be nerds and to start unite every european faction to make a fucking block that no one wants. I don't care for my part, reached the level 35 yesterday, just want to say you are just disgusting because you simply want to get all the map for your e-peen, without giving fucks about fairness of fights, XP and fun you can get from it.

Plus you said once that you want a challenge, what the fuck bro ? You come with thoussands of troops almost shinny equipped to rape peasants and you say you want challenge ? Stop assuming we are idiots, since at the end, we see perfectly what kind of players you are in reality : lamers.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Keshian on April 18, 2014, 03:58:51 pm
Quote from: Zaharist on April 18, 2014, 03:05:45 pm

Enormous alliance were since the very beginning of the strat, UIF was 2nd one, also is the last one, but, unfortunately for you, much better then others.


Slight correction to prevent misinformation.  Also, what exactly do you mean much better than others? 

1.  Much better at using multiple cd keys per person using fluctuating internet addresses to not get caught (like in the past),

2.  Much better at exploiting every available game mechanic that the mod has,

3. Much better at cheating and abusing nighttime settings,

4. Much better at exploiting the non-english speaking community to behave like lemmings for you where they make no decisions just grind troops for you and remain an unrecognizable member of the community (drz 1, drz 2, etc - like minions),

5. Much better at making the community shit to play in so many of the other people leave for games with healthier communities so that by 4 strats later your alliance now is 70% of the playerbase making any fight stupid,

6. Much better at having such an overwhelming majority of the playerbase for safe trading that you can have gear that costs 3x as much as anyone else on the map thus covering up how bad most of DRZ is at the game in actual skill level (senzugda castle case in point - the second you ran out plate and had equal gear you went from having most of the castle to just constant red getting utterly demolished by superior skill players until you were flag capped),

7. Much better at doing the exact same thing every strat, smae lands, same allies, same ways of thinking with no originality that the game becomes monotone like some boring communist factory worker's life making the game too boring for most to participate unless you were trained since birth to support the motherland even if it means your own creativity and individuality no longer means anything.

Seriously the fact you have an ego about killing off the EU community says loads about how stupid and uncreative you all are - you lack the imagination to see more than a day ahead of you and see that you are killing the game mod you seem so in love with that by next strat it will be just you, grey order and kapikulu stroking each other's tiny dicks telling yourselves how awesome you each are for hours on end.


P.S.  You are that kid in monopoly who cheats and takes a bunch of money from the bank, brags constantly about winning and then makes fun of everyone else for not wanting to play with you anymore.  Basically a classic moron.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Zaharist on April 18, 2014, 04:03:24 pm
Quote from: Algarn on April 18, 2014, 03:22:15 pm
UIF is the reason itself of the lack of fun in strat. Don't even try to say no, you are trying to force people to be nerds and to start unite every european faction to make a fucking block that no one wants. I don't care for my part, reached the level 35 yesterday, just want to say you are just disgusting because you simply want to get all the map for your e-peen, without giving fucks about fairness of fights, XP and fun you can get from it.

Plus you said once that you want a challenge, what the fuck bro ? You come with thoussands of troops almost shinny equipped to rape peasants and you say you want challenge ? Stop assuming we are idiots, since at the end, we see perfectly what kind of players you are in reality : lamers.

omg.
Man, you obviously suck at psychology much more then I suck at english language. Or may be you are too young.

One of the most obvious charachteristics of immaturity is "buck passing". Finding reasons and exuses in "outer world" not in yourself.
You say - "UIF is the reason itself of the lack of fun in strat". so UIF is responsible for your funless Strat. That's what I'm saying.
It's like: "I can't earn 15000$ per month, cause my director doesn't pay me that sum". Not because I am too stupid and lazy, but because someone is not doing what I think he should do for me.
So, once again, grow older and stop blaming anyone. Noone needs to or should be exactly like you want him to be. It's only YOU who is responsible for YOUR fun in Strat, your family, your life, vacations, studies etc. Only you.

Next thing you miss completely is that there are always SEVERAL (at least two) points of view. And it depends ONLY on person.
You say "UIF is the reason itself of the lack of fun in strat." You are right from YOUR point of view.
I say "Tearfull nubs like pinguin are the reason of the lack of fun in strat." I am right from MY point of view.
Who is right? Noone and both at the same time. who said that your point of view is THE ONLIEST GOSPEL-TRUTH? Fips and pinguin? GM? Well, be happy to share your common point of view with them. But, sorry, it's only your point of view.
Welcome to yin yang.

Let's go further
"you are just disgusting because you simply want to get all the map for your e-peen, without giving fucks about fairness of fights, XP and fun you can get from it."
That is what you think. Well done, and may be it seem to be true from you point of view.
Who said it? Nebun? Archer KMC? I don't remember them saying something like this, really.
I talked to them at the beginning of round, you may be surprised, but they said they are going to have fun this strat. Did they have it? guess they did. As well as dozens of UIF teammates.

Next.
You talk about "fairness of fights".
Our enemies keep failing with organisation of fights since 1st strat. They always have less equip then tickets, they never have balanced equip for all classes, etc. Also, they fail to start an attack in the right time. So what do you want UIF to do? To spawn naked and go fist fights, when someone failed to have more then 500 armours for his 2,5k army?
Can you understand it? you are trying to blame UIF for having unfair fights. You are blaming UIF again. Why the hell should they care about fairness? But yes, they are responsible, sure. They are bad because they don't make it fun for you.

To conclude with
"we see perfectly what kind of players you are in reality : lamers."
I don't know who give you the right to speak for others, or what group of "WE" do you represent, but
"in reality" UIF is the bestest ever Strategus coalition (not the biggest one, not the first, not the last, but the best). I know it's lame, cause it's no fun for you.


Keshian, peace bro.
Deal with it and suck please deeper.
Thanks.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 18, 2014, 04:06:27 pm
Quote from: Algarn on April 18, 2014, 03:22:15 pm
UIF is the reason itself of the lack of fun in strat. Don't even try to say no, you are trying to force people to be nerds and to start unite every european faction to make a fucking block that no one wants. I don't care for my part, reached the level 35 yesterday, just want to say you are just disgusting because you simply want to get all the map for your e-peen, without giving fucks about fairness of fights, XP and fun you can get from it.

Plus you said once that you want a challenge, what the fuck bro ? You come with thoussands of troops almost shinny equipped to rape peasants and you say you want challenge ? Stop assuming we are idiots, since at the end, we see perfectly what kind of players you are in reality : lamers Eastern Europeans/Russians.

FTFY...it's a mentality. 
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Zaharist on April 18, 2014, 04:08:07 pm
Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on April 18, 2014, 04:06:27 pm
FTFY...it's a mentality. 

How do you know that much about eastern europe mentality?
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Zaharist on April 18, 2014, 04:11:07 pm
What I am trying to say is

PLEASE

BLAME UIF

BLAME UIF AS HARD AS YOU CAN


In that case you are not responsible for anything.


But don't excpet any Strategus changes. The more you blame others, the less chances for you to have fun playing Strat.
If you can't understand it, then

join Keshian please
form a circle
I'm gonna
cum
soon
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: ARN_ on April 18, 2014, 04:22:44 pm
So what you are saying is that if you and 10 guys are beating up someone half your size it's his fault he can't defend himself and he got no rights to blame you for being 10 vs 1?
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Algarn on April 18, 2014, 04:23:28 pm
Do you think people will play strat with players like you in front of them ? I'm tired to go on the same roster, tired to shoot the same guys and being killed by the same guys, do you think it 's up to all the clans except yours to change it ? It got tried to stop DRZ, but how it got tried ? With peasant gear, blame our lack of organization : we don't have 25+ fiefs where we can buy heavy armors with 50%+ discount. Because we are inactive, yeah, of course, we got for most of clans a maximum of 30 players in a strat faction, and most of them got pissed of, or just don't care since they got a life and aren't refreshing strat page every 5 mins. Although I disagree with Keshian's point about cheating, you clearly play lamely, and it's not only MY point of view as a merc, but as a player X or Y. Attacking people with huge ammount of tickets and armors with complete roster against peasants doesn't make you the best faction, just makes you look like opportunists, that are wiped when opponents got the same kind of equipment in the same quantity, and a decent roster. And you will probably say, "yeah, and ? It's all your fault, just unite and kill us if you are better". And I just answer it's too late, we aren't playing on the same ground, because you think there must be a block to fight you, then you fail to understand it, and therefore ruin strat. It's logical.

(Plus the fact I'm young doesn't affect my comprehension of things, you can call me biased, but I'm trying to stay neutral as possible).
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Osiris on April 18, 2014, 04:30:40 pm
UIF wasn't first or second large alliance? my memory may be fading but pretty sure it was. Templars was huge yes but it wasn't a large alliance we just took in anyone who applied. UIF is the first actual alliance that i can recall "just forming to stop templar bloc crushing small 22nd"
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Zaharist on April 18, 2014, 04:48:00 pm
Quote from: ARN_97 on April 18, 2014, 04:22:44 pm
So what you are saying is that if you and 10 guys are beating up someone half your size it's his fault he can't defend himself and he got no rights to blame you for being 10 vs 1?

You almost got it.
almost
He CAN blame them and call them pussies for attacking him 10 on 1. In this case he is a victim, he was attacked by superforce and it's ok that he was beaten, he was alone against 10 of them twice of his size.
He can blame them day after day. He is right - he is twice smaller, he was alone, they are bad people.
And nothing will change.

He can blame himself for not being able to run away, or beat all of them.
In this case he is responsible for being beaten.

When someone recognizes his defeat, he makes first step to avoid such defeat in the future.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 18, 2014, 04:55:18 pm
Quote from: Zaharist on April 18, 2014, 04:08:07 pm
How do you know that much about eastern europe mentality?

I'm glad you asked, I'm kind of an expert.

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Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Zaharist on April 18, 2014, 05:13:20 pm
Lol
I thought communist were idiots, seems like they were a bit less idiots
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Osiris on April 18, 2014, 05:21:45 pm
Zaharist you are beating a dead horse :P anti UIF has tried big bloc its tried defend the castles its tried pretty much everything and nothing worked. Now when anti UIF has far fewer active players they are trying the meh lets not even bother tactic. You cant expect your enemies to just build up then get stomped each strat and think its fun
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Switchtense on April 18, 2014, 05:48:21 pm
you cannot blame UIF for playing strat their way - neither can you blame the rest for not "uniting under one banner" and winning

yes, UIF could split up, but why would they? because anti-uif doesnt like their way of playing strat? grow up, life isnt all pie and candy, if you expect them to say "ohh, you dont like us being allied? we are sorry, we will split up and have a huge war with each other right away" then you should get out more and see what life is like

Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: GRANDMOM on April 18, 2014, 05:59:10 pm
Quote from: Zaharist on April 18, 2014, 04:03:24 pm
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Zaharist, with all the respect I can muster, because I do respect you - all the argumentation about who to blame is useless, wont go nowhere wont solve anything. I am not blaming you for the situation at hand, nor the DRZ or the UIF - I say you have the key to solve this, nothing more nothing less.


UIF solution:
*** "Unite all clans outside the UIF, get organised, get better, get active"
*** Chance of success: 1%
*** Result: none
*** Game: dead since no solution can be reached
*** Difficulty: Impossible
*** Problems: WE CANT

Our solution:
*** Break up the strongest alliance on the map
*** Chance of success: 100%
*** Result: two large factions fighting, backed up by several small factions that would join in the war on each side
*** Game: Resurrected for this round - perhaps for next aswell
*** Difficulty: easy
*** Problems: UIF DOESNT WANT TO

I know you view this the same way, everyone that knows diddely squat about strategus knows this - this far we can all agree
So, I wont say its your fault that you wont go for the solution that would solve the situation, you have your reasons for it Im sure, I dont think they are logical from my point of view but I respect them.. You cant really blame us for not being able to solve it either - cause in our defence - we at least did try to solve it while you havent.

And here we stand, still the same problem and no solution in sight. You hold the key, we dont - and if you dont use it there will be no good round of strategus.





Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 18, 2014, 05:59:58 pm
Dat whole Eastern European mentality.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Switchtense on April 18, 2014, 06:04:32 pm
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on April 18, 2014, 05:53:17 pm
Because i assume they play strat to get battles. Well they wont get any if they dont. It's their problem now. No coincidence that it's now UIF crying all over forums about how we're playing wrong lol.

Anyway, as i said, we're done telling them how to play, they can do what they want, just not complain when they face empty rosters every time.

i am just assuming they dont give a shit about battles - all they want is an enemy they can stomp
then wait for another enemy to stomp, or if no other enemy arises they tell the already stomped one "come on, get up even though we beat you close to death"

no one is to blame for this situation, as grandmom said
then again, its only the UIF who can change the situation, if they dont want to - fair enough

thats why ill go to NA :D
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: GRANDMOM on April 18, 2014, 06:06:31 pm
Quote from: Switchtense on April 18, 2014, 05:48:21 pm
you cannot blame UIF for playing strat their way - neither can you blame the rest for not "uniting under one banner" and winning

yes, UIF could split up, but why would they?

Because they wanna play strat???





Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Switchtense on April 18, 2014, 06:11:22 pm
Quote from: GRANDMOM on April 18, 2014, 06:06:31 pm
Because they wanna play strat???

if, contrary to what i think, they really wanna play strat, then they would have split up long ago

there are 2 options:

1st: they really didnt know there would be no one to actually stand up against them - which would make them fairly stupid and naive
but then they would try to do something about it now (since now they realised that strat isnt working this way)

2nd: they knew there would not be an enemy big enough to stand up against them - means, they knew strat would go this way, so why would they change things now that they are going the way they predicted them to go?
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: GRANDMOM on April 19, 2014, 10:52:39 am
Quote from: Switchtense on April 18, 2014, 06:11:22 pm
if, contrary to what i think, they really wanna play strat, then they would have split up long ago

there are 2 options:

1st: they really didnt know there would be no one to actually stand up against them - which would make them fairly stupid and naive
but then they would try to do something about it now (since now they realised that strat isnt working this way)

2nd: they knew there would not be an enemy big enough to stand up against them - means, they knew strat would go this way, so why would they change things now that they are going the way they predicted them to go?

So you are basically saying they dont wanna play, which is completely the opposite of what they are actually doing.

They didnt predict this outcome, they might have thought they would win, but with some resistance. But not this.

They wont change, perhaps they will die of boredom but not change





Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Corsair831 on April 19, 2014, 08:20:14 pm
Quote from: Latvian on April 16, 2014, 09:44:39 pm
Will there even be next strategus round? i mean there isnt any clan left that would fight UIF ( i am not speaking about NA )so is there actualy any point in making more of this?  Current round is basically over because when drz will just go north and nobody will fight them, they will just give up all fights.Sad.... strategus realy had potential :(

THERE IS STILL ONE CLAN WITH THE ---BALLS--- TO FIGHT THE BEAR!

(hue hue hue)
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Zaharist on April 19, 2014, 08:56:23 pm
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on April 18, 2014, 05:50:01 pm
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no man, you just can't make it out.
forget it
I didn't read 70% of your very expressive message, don't bother yourself nextime doing it once again, please.
have fun

Quote from: GRANDMOM on April 18, 2014, 05:59:10 pm
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Anyway most useless thing is to blame someone instead of having fun or doing smth to have it.

You know I agree with you and I don't support an idea of forming any kind of UIF again and again, but I'm playing very rarely and I'm in no position in DRZ or UIF to make any decisions on this matter.
I don't really know the reasons why DRZ and GO don't go fighting each other.
I can understand reasons why they don't want to do it for "anti-uifers", but I don't understand why do they refuse to accept this challenge for their own fun.

__

If antiuifers could stop finding excuses and blaming anyone else, may be they could stop doing same mistakes over and over again.
Equipping, attacking, timing, trading, fief management etc
You will hardly ever see DRZ losing their 1,5-2k army to nothing due to some stupid failures, but their foes keep doing it since Strat 1.
Or DRZ attacking with 2,5k army equipped with only 400 heavy body armors and 2100 naked guys. Have you seen DRZ army with amount of bows/xbows equal to amount of arrows/bolts? Have you seen DRZ's unprepared attacks, without supplies, blocking armies? On the other hand most of antuifers still fail at it. And never learn from their mistakes, cause they are faultless - the reason is UIF. UIF being too big and grinding too much.
In general, UIF is hypercorrect, while their foes continue playing their favourite "Russian giveaway" game.

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Why it works for UIF, but didn't work for antiUIFers?
Guess it's "mentality".


What I'm trying to say is that there are always "both sides" responsible.
Everytime, no matter what happens, everyone involved is responsible for the result.
I'm not "defending" UIF at all.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Switchtense on April 19, 2014, 09:05:46 pm
Quote from: Zaharist on April 19, 2014, 08:56:23 pm
no man, you just can't make it out.
forget it
I didn't read 70% of your very expressive message, don't bother yourself nextime doing it once again, please.
have fun

Anyway most useless thing is to blame someone instead of having fun or doing smth to have it.

You know I agree with you and I don't support an idea of forming any kind of UIF again and again, but I'm playing very rarely and I'm in no position in DRZ or UIF to make any decisions on this matter.
I don't really know the reasons why DRZ and GO don't go fighting each other.
I can understand reasons why they don't want to do it for "anti-uifers", but I don't understand why do they refuse to accept this challenge for their own fun.

__

If antiuifers could stop finding excuses and blaming anyone else, may be they could stop doing same mistakes over and over again.
Equipping, attacking, timing, trading, fief management etc
You will hardly ever see DRZ losing their 1,5-2k army to nothing due to some stupid failures, but their foes keep doing it since Strat 1.
Or DRZ attacking with 2,5k army equipped with only 400 heavy body armors and 2100 naked guys. Have you seen DRZ army with amount of bows/xbows equal to amount of arrows/bolts? Have you seen DRZ's unprepared attacks, without supplies, blocking armies? On the other hand most of antuifers still fail at it. And never learn from their mistakes, cause they are faultless - the reason is UIF. UIF being too big and grinding too much.
In general, UIF is hypercorrect, while their foes continue playing their favourite "Russian giveaway" game.

(click to show/hide)
Why it works for UIF, but didn't work for antiUIFers?
Guess it's "mentality".


What I'm trying to say is that there are always "both sides" responsible.
Everytime, no matter what happens, everyone involved is responsible for the result.
I'm not "defending" UIF at all.

tl;dr
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Emear on April 20, 2014, 02:55:03 pm



lal it's just the game, why so serious?
If u don't enjoy strategus play c-rpg. It's like football and penalties. It's interesting but it's not main game :P
Anyway strategus is weird mix of XXI century country and XIV weapons. There should be just giaaaaant minus points for too much land like in paradox games or even Total Wars. After all it's stupid that on map there is a lot of fiews with 100% crime. I miss something like rebellions from total war. 100% crime for a 3 days = fiew come back to old owner. It's stupid that 100% means nothing more than the village is shit :P


Anyway soon melee battlegrounds, well so I might support idea od shorter round (like 4-5 months per strat, ) to play more of it, make more people active or even test new things before new game will come out ( As I belive that like 1 year ago, great mm mod community will be killed. Without servers and official events it'll just die in few days :P). But in my opinion restarting game because someone win is weird if there won't be any prize. Like 20 masterworks for faction who took 2nd place, and +1 generation for winners. :P 


 
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Simon_Templar on April 20, 2014, 03:47:53 pm
Just make it that you get task at the begin of a strat round that you also have to play with other clans together. So that you not have all the block formations like allways the same clans are allies. Udssr against america :D its a medieval game :P

That in every strat round clans get task what they have to do or something. Some special objectives. And that you also have to make allies with other factions as well that you not have always the same clans allied. I have no interest in playing this any more but this is my advice.

Another thing is for me Trading system. Its totally unnecessary. Better make it that you cant have unbelievable much money or tickets better make it that you have to Make more Tactical decision. On Strategus map. Like you also can defend bridges. Or that you have Places like the alps or other important places what you have to capture so that you can fall in further in enemy territory.  And i also suggested it since ages to make a Europa map. Coaltion would have won last strat round if you are would make it that you can buy strat tickets. Ones again you sold us out chadz. Nicely done. And wondering why nobody plays anymore. When you would have the chance to buy tickets as well and not only by crafting. Coaltion would have won the last round. And it became clearly that 70 percent of the clans are having no idea what we are doing here anyways. How it would be working in a reallistic medieval world. It would have gone out totally different.


Strat faction one Big water head for a hole faction. this can not work this is how you raize racists. And everybody hates each other. But this is only a fucking Game. So the fun should stand there in front. Get a life UIF. I mean every normal person would say!!! What this people are doing here. This shit became so important for some people that they even forget to live,eat,drink. So i would make strategus match more Easier. And that not the big of a faction is important for you to do something. In it. Like easy as Warband was at the very begining. You would have need to develop a completly new game to do what you have in mind chadz. I mean even when you would have lots of people to craft tickets you could have thought it to the and. what is when they have at the end so match people to craft tickets. Why not make there a system what decrease ticket size what you get. What brings me always to. Can this people are not think on they re own. And can not create some own ideas with they re brains. Or why is it always that some people like me have to make suggestions. Over every normal person it should became obvious. So there is only one little guy who makes some changes to strat from time to time. And not even things get patched will a round is Runing. Rogue said to me ones there is one guy sometimes playing doctor at this and making some changes. I couldn't see that over the last round not one time. I mean with strat 3 i was not completely pleaced. Because in this strat is always one thing what you can abuse. And for this people it gets so important to beat us. lol. That i ask myself what theyre doing in real life. So that this is so improtant to them. The answer is that this are small little bundle of stickss. Who are hating Warband. And want to make it a Indi game but this isnt a indi game it is a fucking Medieval game.  :lol: And when i am thinking about. All the nerfes what we did to this game. It is unbelievable it was fun playing this ones. And i point my finger ones again on this strategus again. So a easier Strat system would be nice.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Simon_Templar on April 20, 2014, 03:48:31 pm
I see Strat 6. You will need an Doctor title to play that.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Emear on April 20, 2014, 03:51:18 pm
Quote from: Simon_Templar on April 20, 2014, 03:48:31 pm
I see Strat 6. You will need an Doctor title to play that.  :mrgreen:
Well, soon Melee Battlegrounds :3 That means that we should end this strat and won't play next one. Or start next one soon :3
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Keshian on April 20, 2014, 04:35:13 pm
Quote from: Emear on April 20, 2014, 03:51:18 pm
Well, soon Melee Battlegrounds :3 That means that we should end this strat and won't play next one. Or start next one soon :3

Coming Dec. 2010!

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Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Macropus on April 20, 2014, 08:24:38 pm
Trading/selling The Eastern Mentality
Looking for 2 lpts + 100k gold or any other Mentality which would allow me to play for fun, PM me with your offers.

PS: oh wait, it's the wrong thread
PPS: oh wait, it's not.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Smoothrich on April 21, 2014, 08:57:34 am
Quote from: Macropus on April 20, 2014, 08:24:38 pm
Trading/selling The Eastern Mentality
Looking for 2 lpts + 100k gold or any other Mentality which would allow me to play for fun, PM me with your offers.

PS: oh wait, it's the wrong thread
PPS: oh wait, it's not.

Probably that crap is cuz Russians have a reputation of forming giant, hive-mind guilds with many lower skill players in lots of grindy open-ended web games that refuse to communicate to the rest of the community while slowly devouring every other clan and conquering vast territory while abusing/exploiting all features of the game to win, laughing at the forum rage and tears in their own language on their private forums.

This is unironically why LLJK/Goons make such good allies with Russian/Eastern European clans.

Also if I was to describe other gamer mentalities based on my experiences in the cRPG community, it seems most British players are cool and get along with all kinds of Americans, Scandinavian players are good but insufferable whiny pretentious pricks, and Germans are arrogant but impotent nerds that have an excuse for everything while always failing hard.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Macropus on April 21, 2014, 08:07:02 pm
Quote from: Smoothrich on April 21, 2014, 08:57:34 am
Also if I was to describe other gamer mentalities based on my experiences in the cRPG community ...
So basically the more English-speaking a person is, the more you like him/her.  :)
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Aksei on April 21, 2014, 08:30:40 pm
he is so right and wrong in once. right inly because i know some lets say "popular" community members that fits, but the big rest not.
With your arrogants you have to be german then^^
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Bittersteel on April 21, 2014, 11:00:36 pm
Quote from: Zaharist on April 18, 2014, 04:48:00 pm
You almost got it.
almost
He CAN blame them and call them pussies for attacking him 10 on 1. In this case he is a victim, he was attacked by superforce and it's ok that he was beaten, he was alone against 10 of them twice of his size.
He can blame them day after day. He is right - he is twice smaller, he was alone, they are bad people.
And nothing will change.

He can blame himself for not being able to run away, or beat all of them.
In this case he is responsible for being beaten.

When someone recognizes his defeat, he makes first step to avoid such defeat in the future.


I... What? Jesus christ, some people.
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Algarn on April 21, 2014, 11:03:33 pm
We all know that women being raped are responsible of it, it seems legit that they have to blame themselves.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Harpag on April 22, 2014, 08:15:49 pm
"A poem where the author politely but firmly requests
many hordes of fellow men to kiss him in the ass."

...1:55
... And you, about whom I forgot,
Or I ommited you of mercy,
Either because I was afraid,
Or, because there is so plenty of you,
And you, censor, who for this poem,
No doubt will sentence me to pokey,
And so I became the lechers' boss,
You all kiss me in my arse !"

Julian Tuwim  ;-)

bye
Title: Re: next strategus round?
Post by: Falka on April 23, 2014, 12:15:02 pm
Quote from: Harpag on April 22, 2014, 08:15:49 pm
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If Tuwim heard this shitty, censored - which is just hilarious in the context of last chapter - adaptation of his poem, he'd turn over in his grave.