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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2014, 06:06:31 pm »
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you cannot blame UIF for playing strat their way - neither can you blame the rest for not "uniting under one banner" and winning

yes, UIF could split up, but why would they?

Because they wanna play strat???





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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2014, 06:11:22 pm »
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Because they wanna play strat???

if, contrary to what i think, they really wanna play strat, then they would have split up long ago

there are 2 options:

1st: they really didnt know there would be no one to actually stand up against them - which would make them fairly stupid and naive
but then they would try to do something about it now (since now they realised that strat isnt working this way)

2nd: they knew there would not be an enemy big enough to stand up against them - means, they knew strat would go this way, so why would they change things now that they are going the way they predicted them to go?
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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2014, 10:52:39 am »
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if, contrary to what i think, they really wanna play strat, then they would have split up long ago

there are 2 options:

1st: they really didnt know there would be no one to actually stand up against them - which would make them fairly stupid and naive
but then they would try to do something about it now (since now they realised that strat isnt working this way)

2nd: they knew there would not be an enemy big enough to stand up against them - means, they knew strat would go this way, so why would they change things now that they are going the way they predicted them to go?

So you are basically saying they dont wanna play, which is completely the opposite of what they are actually doing.

They didnt predict this outcome, they might have thought they would win, but with some resistance. But not this.

They wont change, perhaps they will die of boredom but not change





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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #48 on: April 19, 2014, 08:20:14 pm »
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Will there even be next strategus round? i mean there isnt any clan left that would fight UIF ( i am not speaking about NA )so is there actualy any point in making more of this?  Current round is basically over because when drz will just go north and nobody will fight them, they will just give up all fights.Sad.... strategus realy had potential :(

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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #49 on: April 19, 2014, 08:56:23 pm »
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no man, you just can't make it out.
forget it
I didn't read 70% of your very expressive message, don't bother yourself nextime doing it once again, please.
have fun

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Anyway most useless thing is to blame someone instead of having fun or doing smth to have it.

You know I agree with you and I don't support an idea of forming any kind of UIF again and again, but I'm playing very rarely and I'm in no position in DRZ or UIF to make any decisions on this matter.
I don't really know the reasons why DRZ and GO don't go fighting each other.
I can understand reasons why they don't want to do it for "anti-uifers", but I don't understand why do they refuse to accept this challenge for their own fun.

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If antiuifers could stop finding excuses and blaming anyone else, may be they could stop doing same mistakes over and over again.
Equipping, attacking, timing, trading, fief management etc
You will hardly ever see DRZ losing their 1,5-2k army to nothing due to some stupid failures, but their foes keep doing it since Strat 1.
Or DRZ attacking with 2,5k army equipped with only 400 heavy body armors and 2100 naked guys. Have you seen DRZ army with amount of bows/xbows equal to amount of arrows/bolts? Have you seen DRZ's unprepared attacks, without supplies, blocking armies? On the other hand most of antuifers still fail at it. And never learn from their mistakes, cause they are faultless - the reason is UIF. UIF being too big and grinding too much.
In general, UIF is hypercorrect, while their foes continue playing their favourite "Russian giveaway" game.

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Why it works for UIF, but didn't work for antiUIFers?
Guess it's "mentality".



What I'm trying to say is that there are always "both sides" responsible.
Everytime, no matter what happens, everyone involved is responsible for the result.
I'm not "defending" UIF at all.
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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #50 on: April 19, 2014, 09:05:46 pm »
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no man, you just can't make it out.
forget it
I didn't read 70% of your very expressive message, don't bother yourself nextime doing it once again, please.
have fun

Anyway most useless thing is to blame someone instead of having fun or doing smth to have it.

You know I agree with you and I don't support an idea of forming any kind of UIF again and again, but I'm playing very rarely and I'm in no position in DRZ or UIF to make any decisions on this matter.
I don't really know the reasons why DRZ and GO don't go fighting each other.
I can understand reasons why they don't want to do it for "anti-uifers", but I don't understand why do they refuse to accept this challenge for their own fun.

__

If antiuifers could stop finding excuses and blaming anyone else, may be they could stop doing same mistakes over and over again.
Equipping, attacking, timing, trading, fief management etc
You will hardly ever see DRZ losing their 1,5-2k army to nothing due to some stupid failures, but their foes keep doing it since Strat 1.
Or DRZ attacking with 2,5k army equipped with only 400 heavy body armors and 2100 naked guys. Have you seen DRZ army with amount of bows/xbows equal to amount of arrows/bolts? Have you seen DRZ's unprepared attacks, without supplies, blocking armies? On the other hand most of antuifers still fail at it. And never learn from their mistakes, cause they are faultless - the reason is UIF. UIF being too big and grinding too much.
In general, UIF is hypercorrect, while their foes continue playing their favourite "Russian giveaway" game.

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Why it works for UIF, but didn't work for antiUIFers?
Guess it's "mentality".



What I'm trying to say is that there are always "both sides" responsible.
Everytime, no matter what happens, everyone involved is responsible for the result.
I'm not "defending" UIF at all.

tl;dr
For all the non-believers, look no further than this thread for proof that while strat battles are won/lost in NA3/EU3, strat wars are won and lost on the forums.
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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2014, 02:55:03 pm »
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lal it's just the game, why so serious?
If u don't enjoy strategus play c-rpg. It's like football and penalties. It's interesting but it's not main game :P
Anyway strategus is weird mix of XXI century country and XIV weapons. There should be just giaaaaant minus points for too much land like in paradox games or even Total Wars. After all it's stupid that on map there is a lot of fiews with 100% crime. I miss something like rebellions from total war. 100% crime for a 3 days = fiew come back to old owner. It's stupid that 100% means nothing more than the village is shit :P


Anyway soon melee battlegrounds, well so I might support idea od shorter round (like 4-5 months per strat, ) to play more of it, make more people active or even test new things before new game will come out ( As I belive that like 1 year ago, great mm mod community will be killed. Without servers and official events it'll just die in few days :P). But in my opinion restarting game because someone win is weird if there won't be any prize. Like 20 masterworks for faction who took 2nd place, and +1 generation for winners. :P 


 
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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2014, 03:47:53 pm »
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Just make it that you get task at the begin of a strat round that you also have to play with other clans together. So that you not have all the block formations like allways the same clans are allies. Udssr against america :D its a medieval game :P

That in every strat round clans get task what they have to do or something. Some special objectives. And that you also have to make allies with other factions as well that you not have always the same clans allied. I have no interest in playing this any more but this is my advice.

Another thing is for me Trading system. Its totally unnecessary. Better make it that you cant have unbelievable much money or tickets better make it that you have to Make more Tactical decision. On Strategus map. Like you also can defend bridges. Or that you have Places like the alps or other important places what you have to capture so that you can fall in further in enemy territory.  And i also suggested it since ages to make a Europa map. Coaltion would have won last strat round if you are would make it that you can buy strat tickets. Ones again you sold us out chadz. Nicely done. And wondering why nobody plays anymore. When you would have the chance to buy tickets as well and not only by crafting. Coaltion would have won the last round. And it became clearly that 70 percent of the clans are having no idea what we are doing here anyways. How it would be working in a reallistic medieval world. It would have gone out totally different.


Strat faction one Big water head for a hole faction. this can not work this is how you raize racists. And everybody hates each other. But this is only a fucking Game. So the fun should stand there in front. Get a life UIF. I mean every normal person would say!!! What this people are doing here. This shit became so important for some people that they even forget to live,eat,drink. So i would make strategus match more Easier. And that not the big of a faction is important for you to do something. In it. Like easy as Warband was at the very begining. You would have need to develop a completly new game to do what you have in mind chadz. I mean even when you would have lots of people to craft tickets you could have thought it to the and. what is when they have at the end so match people to craft tickets. Why not make there a system what decrease ticket size what you get. What brings me always to. Can this people are not think on they re own. And can not create some own ideas with they re brains. Or why is it always that some people like me have to make suggestions. Over every normal person it should became obvious. So there is only one little guy who makes some changes to strat from time to time. And not even things get patched will a round is Runing. Rogue said to me ones there is one guy sometimes playing doctor at this and making some changes. I couldn't see that over the last round not one time. I mean with strat 3 i was not completely pleaced. Because in this strat is always one thing what you can abuse. And for this people it gets so important to beat us. lol. That i ask myself what theyre doing in real life. So that this is so improtant to them. The answer is that this are small little bundle of stickss. Who are hating Warband. And want to make it a Indi game but this isnt a indi game it is a fucking Medieval game.  :lol: And when i am thinking about. All the nerfes what we did to this game. It is unbelievable it was fun playing this ones. And i point my finger ones again on this strategus again. So a easier Strat system would be nice.

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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2014, 03:48:31 pm »
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I see Strat 6. You will need an Doctor title to play that.  :mrgreen:

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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2014, 03:51:18 pm »
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I see Strat 6. You will need an Doctor title to play that.  :mrgreen:
Well, soon Melee Battlegrounds :3 That means that we should end this strat and won't play next one. Or start next one soon :3

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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2014, 04:35:13 pm »
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Well, soon Melee Battlegrounds :3 That means that we should end this strat and won't play next one. Or start next one soon :3

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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #56 on: April 20, 2014, 08:24:38 pm »
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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #57 on: April 21, 2014, 08:57:34 am »
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Probably that crap is cuz Russians have a reputation of forming giant, hive-mind guilds with many lower skill players in lots of grindy open-ended web games that refuse to communicate to the rest of the community while slowly devouring every other clan and conquering vast territory while abusing/exploiting all features of the game to win, laughing at the forum rage and tears in their own language on their private forums.

This is unironically why LLJK/Goons make such good allies with Russian/Eastern European clans.

Also if I was to describe other gamer mentalities based on my experiences in the cRPG community, it seems most British players are cool and get along with all kinds of Americans, Scandinavian players are good but insufferable whiny pretentious pricks, and Germans are arrogant but impotent nerds that have an excuse for everything while always failing hard.
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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #58 on: April 21, 2014, 08:07:02 pm »
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Also if I was to describe other gamer mentalities based on my experiences in the cRPG community ...
So basically the more English-speaking a person is, the more you like him/her:)

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Re: next strategus round?
« Reply #59 on: April 21, 2014, 08:30:40 pm »
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he is so right and wrong in once. right inly because i know some lets say "popular" community members that fits, but the big rest not.
With your arrogants you have to be german then^^