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Title: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Dalfador on March 13, 2014, 09:55:49 am
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During a late night across the land of Calradia, Dalfador peered out from the walls of Reyvadin, seeing if it was safe to escort his caravan of defenseless orphans across the plains, to refuge in Tilbaut castle. Scouts reported in of an Astralis scout party further off in the eastern mountains. The Grandmaster looked to the starving orphans, depending on the income of this caravan to feed both them and their families. He knew he had to try, or many of the orphans would not make it through the winter.

And so it happened. Leading the caravan at the front, Dalfador stepped off of his white stallion and walked, to show that he was no more important than the lowest of class there. The caravan left the safety of Reyvadin. Moving at a mere 11 KMH. The orphans had to work hard to tote the many goods around.

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While the Grandmaster was watching a documentary about the horrors of SeaWorld at about one in the morning, the barbarians decided it was time to mobilize their raiding party. Once finished with his documentary at about two thirty in the morning, Dalfador spotted the party approaching swiftly, and immediately ordered the turn around of the caravan. He put an orphan boy on his stallion, and slapped it back to Reyvadin, instructing the boy to have the gates ready for a swift entrance. Laughing to himself, Dalfador said, "These dogs think the Grandmaster old and senile. I will not have this party butchered by a group of mongrels."

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And so the chase ensued for a long while... the Astralis party only Kilometers behind, Dalfador prepared a militia just incase. Their weapons? Ruined clubs and Ruined Practice Longswords; the caravans have had to make due with what they can, while the army receives the superior gear.

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THE CHASE ENSUES
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With the gates of of Reyvadin in the distance, it was now sunrise and Dalfador spotted the orphan boy (strangely now wearing 19th century spanish swashbuckler garb, wielding a rapier in one hand) rearing the White Stallion atop the walls of the city.

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Dalfador shed tears of joy as the Caravan passed through the gates, avoiding a massacre.

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AT THE CITY
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Seeing the Astralis dogs round the hillcrest outside the city, Dalfador removed his gauntlets and prepared a pose:

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He then trotted into the city, and gave each orphan a pot of honey, and some leather to make new shoes.

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Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Snufalufagus on March 13, 2014, 11:19:25 am
Gripping.... I feel like i was there.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: imisshotmail on March 13, 2014, 11:20:52 am
if you sold those goods at that distance bonus you are retarded.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Jona on March 13, 2014, 11:37:18 am
Orphans have families?

Gripping.... I feel like i was there.

Away with you, Astralis dog! :P
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Snufalufagus on March 13, 2014, 11:39:53 am
Yes and no Jonas.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Jona on March 13, 2014, 11:47:37 am
Yes and no Jonas.

Well they could have siblings, but that would then make it kind if redundant to say "the orphans and the other orphans." Sure, they could have extended famies of aunts, uncles, cousins and grandparents, but damn... if Dalf is generous enough to take care of little kids and their entire family... then you Astralis people are bad and should feel bad and should probably stop fighting us.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Wallace_Ritchie on March 13, 2014, 02:46:12 pm
Who is WoM? *yawn* I can't keep track of all these black company vassals.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sparvico on March 13, 2014, 02:50:31 pm
Who is WoM? *yawn* I can't keep track of all these black company vassals.

Oh my word a wild luk appeared. Go easy on the infamy black company and co, wild luks are very easily scared off the forums.

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Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Rikthor on March 13, 2014, 05:09:31 pm
Wouldn't the more correct term be Black Company/WoM/HoC vs Astralis War?
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: HardRice on March 13, 2014, 05:18:05 pm
Who is WoM? *yawn* I can't keep track of all these black company vassals.
Sorry to say, but we don't have any vassals.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: StonedSteel on March 13, 2014, 05:38:56 pm
+ 1 for epic music
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Jona on March 13, 2014, 08:50:49 pm
Wouldn't the more correct term be Black Company/WoM/HoC vs Astralis War?

More like the Black Company/WoM/HoC/OotWS/Astralis/Frisia with the random 3rd party of Bird war.


...yea, stay out of the north if you're a pacifist.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: TR_Ragnarok on March 13, 2014, 09:26:34 pm
whos ootws? Are we at war with them Luk?
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 13, 2014, 11:12:31 pm
whos ootws? Are we at war with them Luk?

They are under WoM Strat faction.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Garem on March 14, 2014, 12:18:37 am
Oh my word a wild luk appeared. Go easy on the infamy black company and co, wild luks are very easily scared off the forums.

Easily scared is about right. Has a few bad (read: terrible) fights after a war he started, calls Papa Sandy to try and save his ass.  :rolleyes: :P

FWIW, it's a 29 player Astralis faction v. 15* in Black Company and 18 in WoM. Now the 18 player Frisia hops in, and the two major brawls we've had since have been basically 1:1 (despite merc support disparities for both sides, even).

I'm generally disinclined to shit talking on the forums, but I don't take kindly to chump swings at the WoM when the numbers say you can't back it up after our good and honest fights.

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*To be fair, just added two new members yesterday and today. Now 17 total.

Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 14, 2014, 01:12:44 am
Easily scared is about right. Has a few bad (read: terrible) fights after a war he started, calls Papa Sandy to try and save his ass.  :rolleyes: :P

FWIW, it's a 29 player Astralis faction v. 15* in Black Company and 18 in WoM. Now the 18 player Frisia hops in, and the two major brawls we've had since have been basically 1:1 (despite merc support disparities for both sides, even).

I'm generally disinclined to shit talking on the forums, but I don't take kindly to chump swings at the WoM when the numbers say you can't back it up after our good and honest fights.

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*To be fair, just added two new members yesterday and today. Now 17 total.

The war started with 17 Astralis Members. Bull got many of us to get on. SO if anything, you're "WOE IS ME WE ARE SMALLER" shit is bull. We started out smaller, and we are getting all our players online.

Why not post your log since then hm? You've Soundly lost 2 major battles.
You even lost one in which you had EVERY advantage:
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattleroster&id=533
Better armor, more mercs...

How about we crop that picture to be more realistic?
Teddy bear: Peasent gear
Anders: Peasent gear
Ambean: W/E village gear was left
Kalonice: Not even astralis, and he had worse armor and weapons than u
Edward: Barely Armed

Anyone can brag about good K/D against Shit armies.

And if ANYTHING, you started the war by Attacking Ambean and saying YOU claimed it. Get out of here with this shit.

In other news, WoM are cool. I still chat w/ them cause they are awesome(LOTR fanboy here).
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sasuko on March 14, 2014, 01:18:40 am
Easily scared is about right. Has a few bad (read: terrible) fights after a war he started, calls Papa Sandy to try and save his ass.  :rolleyes: :P
I'm sorry Garem, but we did not start this war for the north. Both factions in this conflict had claims in this region and Astralis chose not to become one of your underlings. And I'm also sadden by how childish your actions have been, we are adults please act like it.

And Mr. Anders please stop posting on troll threads you'll just make us look bad; most people on Crpg hate you just like Gomer.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 14, 2014, 01:22:00 am
I'm sorry Garem, but we did not start this war for the north. Both factions in this conflict had claims in this region and Astralis chose not to become one of your underlings. And I'm also sadden by how childish your actions have been in this thread, we are adults please act like it.

And Mr. Anders please stop posting on troll threads you'll just make us look bad; most people on Crpg hate you just like Gomer.

Aw. Ok  :oops:
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sasuko on March 14, 2014, 01:39:50 am
Aw. Ok  :oops:
<3
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 14, 2014, 01:54:21 am
I love a good shitpost, so you guys might have an idea of how difficult it actually is to avoid one here.

Astralis was pretty fucking convinced we'd go after them for taking Fenada after we failed an attempt to. We were considering it pretty heavily as well. Astralis didn't ask us to jump in at all. Black Company didn't either, but they did ask for us to stay out of the whole ordeal. I'm fairly certain that Astralis and SittingBull reckoned we were pissed at losing Fenada to them and they figured we would stay out of it at best, or attack THEM at worst.

We jumped in because we perceived that Astralis was under attack from 3 factions, outnumbering them more than a bit. No, we didn't look up the faction IDs are check out the number of players in the factions because:

a) wow what are we nerds LOL

b) that number is only a very rough estimate of actual active players; there are plenty of people that are going to think they're all stoked about strat and quit out. nearly every conflict has seen both sides saying "NO U HAVE MORE PLAYERS WE ARE THE GOODS GUYS"


Besides that, I'm sorry for my members shit-talking at every opportunity, and making an opportunity if none is present. I don't really like to do that, and while I may be a nerd of shameful proportions, I won't take measures to prevent it. I don't encourage it, but I only very rarely discourage it. I just watch it happen and laugh to myself, because I enjoy being a spectator to shit-talking, be it creative or mindless.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Garem on March 14, 2014, 01:59:09 am
SO if anything, you're "WOE IS ME WE ARE SMALLER" shit is bull.

Raise the temperature of the conversation for yourself if of you'd like, Anders. I'm surely not whining nor whimpering. We've killed a hell of a lot more of you. I, and the rest of us, intend to continue doing that.

Plus, isn't the "WOE IS ME WE ARE SMALLER" precisely what you're doing by pointing out your sluggishness and/or inadequacy in putting up a better fight? If not, what exactly was the point of mentioning it? To quoque, I suppose.

Why not post your log since then hm? You've Soundly lost 2 major battles.
You even lost one in which you had EVERY advantage:
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattleroster&id=533
Better armor, more mercs...

Gear wasn't much better, certainly not significantly. We did splurge on a handful of Short Mil Scythes and Fauchards, maybe 5 per fight to get an small, quick advantage just in case. The fight you posted was 1:1. Regardless, gear advantage would be part of more efficient and effective trading.

As for the mercenary disparity, I already covered that. 30:45 in one, 45:30 in another.
(The one he didn't link and, again, went 1:1... for the record: http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattleroster&id=510)

And if ANYTHING, you started the war by Attacking Ambean and saying YOU claimed it. Get out of here with this shit.

In other news, WoM are cool. I still chat w/ them cause they are awesome(LOTR fanboy here).

http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/black-company-diplomacy/
Last Edit: Feb. 18

And your leadership was aware of this.

You're right, WoM is cool. Astralis is, for the most part, cool. We've had good talks. That's why I called out a chump put down for what it is. I wouldn't bother if it was someone that I didn't respect enough to call out - why bother?

tl;dr
Stop trying so hard for sympathy and accusing me of doing the same. That was never what this was about, stop dragging it there.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Garem on March 14, 2014, 02:05:43 am
Astralis was pretty fucking convinced we'd go after them for taking Fenada after we failed an attempt to. We were considering it pretty heavily as well.

Hahaha, that's what Black Company was thinking. We were waiting to see what the fuck this was all about. Saw it as a possible but unlikely outcome.

BC play a somewhat predictable game - ruthless self-interest (however we decide to interpret this, which is less predictable). Hence when KUTT was being a turd ally last Strat we fucked them over to recoup losses. We tried applying our decision making logic, but then remembered it's fucking Frisia and there's no goddamn way to know what the hell you're going to do.

Would have been nice to look elsewhere (and train up the 5-6 new players without close, constant danger) after we'd finished up beating Astralis, but ah well. I'm having a hell of a good time.

Also, who was the third faction?
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: imisshotmail on March 14, 2014, 02:08:28 am
BC play a somewhat predictable game - ruthless self-interest (however we decide to interpret this, which is less predictable). Hence when KUTT was being a turd ally last Strat we fucked them over to recoup losses.

^^why the fallen are the worst clan in any video game ever^^
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Dalfador on March 14, 2014, 02:08:40 am
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Let's keep the drama out of here for the time being... this is presented to both sides of the war as a comedic affair. I can respect simple diplomatic statements, but there is a line drawn somewhere.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Snufalufagus on March 14, 2014, 02:09:54 am
King of the Britons?  I heard he was a murderer.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: HardRice on March 14, 2014, 02:12:41 am
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I wouldn't be able to shitpost you even if I really tried. You're the shining light in a sperg-ridden world.

Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Garem on March 14, 2014, 02:14:29 am
^^why the fallen are the worst clan in any video game ever^^

Meh. If your own "ally" kills your traders (note: plural) and steals your goods, yea. We're not going to put up with that shit.

Which makes us the worst. So worst.

Isn't that like, some mafia code somewhere? I don't speak your hip hop gangster jive.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sasuko on March 14, 2014, 02:17:46 am
You're right, WoM is cool. Astralis is, for the most part, cool. We've had good talks. That's why I called out a chump put down for what it is. I wouldn't bother if it was someone that I didn't respect enough to call out - why bother?
We in Astralis have no bad blood towards our new enemies, Also, send Ludd back when he's drunk again I have the audio from that night if you care to hear. ;3
Cheers!
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: HardRice on March 14, 2014, 02:21:48 am
We in Astralis have no bad blood towards our new enemies, Also, send Ludd back when he's drunk again I have the audio from that night if you care to hear. ;3
Cheers!
You should visit our ts and you'll get plenty of drunk Curtis  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Garem on March 14, 2014, 02:22:30 am
Ludd is basically this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panda_diplomacy)

And thanks, we have a copy.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Soldier_of_God on March 14, 2014, 02:25:50 am
Well expect derpg'ers to cock up a roleplay. on that note, if you have any ethiopian midget orphans i will buy them, then force them to put plates in a cupboard without a ladder. no candy for you, no candy for you.

by the way, anders is our resident penis head, dont take him all that seriously.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 14, 2014, 02:27:20 am
Also, who was the third faction?

Figured that HoC was supporting you guys. Did not feel that WoM was capable of stacking 2k in a village as early as they did, and I heard from more than a couple sources that HoC was at least nominally supporting WoM, if not both of you.

I don't consider this confirmed fact, just what I deduced.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 14, 2014, 02:27:37 am
Well expect derpg'ers to cock up a roleplay. on that note, if you have any ethiopian midget orphans i will buy them, then force them to put plates in a cupboard without a ladder. no candy for you, no candy for you.

by the way, anders is our resident penis head, dont take him all that seriously.

All bow to the PENIS LORD, EDWARD!
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Keshian on March 14, 2014, 02:31:02 am
You should visit our ts and you'll get plenty of drunk Curtis  :mrgreen:

Hard rice that is an awesome gif, hilarious.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: HardRice on March 14, 2014, 02:31:40 am
Figured that HoC was supporting you guys. Did not feel that WoM was capable of stacking 2k in a village as early as they did, and I heard from more than a couple sources that HoC was at least nominally supporting WoM, if not both of you.

I don't consider this confirmed fact, just what I deduced.
They actually did do that all on their own, the first week they had like 1400 troops in Jelbegi and we were shitting our pants wonder how the fuck they pulled that off.

Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 14, 2014, 02:33:55 am
Hard rice that is an awesome gif, hilarious.

IKR? I was laughing my ass off at it for like a good minute. Which is pretty good considering that I don't laugh at things often.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Garem on March 14, 2014, 02:37:26 am
Oh, that makes sense. HoC is only a few guys. Eisnar, Ermax, Jona, and I think BoneSaw? I consider them part of WoM - I think they do, too.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: HardRice on March 14, 2014, 02:38:32 am
IKR? I was laughing my ass off at it for like a good minute. Which is pretty good considering that I don't laugh at things often.
Hard rice that is an awesome gif, hilarious.

Carthan posted it on the forums and I had to put it in my sig, it was too damn funny to forget.  :lol:
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Life on March 14, 2014, 02:55:35 am
that chubby gay dude at the end though.  :lol: didnt go as planned..
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sasuko on March 14, 2014, 03:16:24 am
Hard rice that is an awesome gif, hilarious.
I couldn't stop laughing either :3
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Balikar on March 22, 2014, 06:21:17 pm
I keep clicking on this thread to see that Gif...
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: xOps on March 23, 2014, 11:18:48 am
What do you deduce happens next Sanders? Maybe forsake Daruvian scum while you can.....
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 23, 2014, 10:57:48 pm
What do you deduce happens next Sanders? Maybe forsake Daruvian scum while you can.....


Oh, is that why AoW is attacking us?
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: HappyPhantom on March 24, 2014, 12:14:20 am
I'm daring to head north to buy some equipment, plz don't hurt me.

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Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sharpe on March 24, 2014, 01:36:22 am
I'm daring to head north to buy some equipment, plz don't hurt me.

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Why would we ever do that?

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Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on March 24, 2014, 02:46:33 am

Oh, is that why AoW is attacking us?

No...  AoW is attacking you because you marched 1k men into our fight with Astralis.  Then another 1200.  You attacked us for no reason.  And they also don't like you.  They are doing it on their own......  But we absolutely appreciate it.  I will be there and I will merc for AoW.  Anyone who's fought in the Northern wars should be there.  This has been going on for a month.  Everyone who's fought deserves a chance to see it through. 

We tried to work with you.  And I'll give you credit....  You point blank told me you were attacking either BC, Geforce, or Acre.  I appreciate the honesty.  But WTF do you expect?  Your diplomacy page says you are looking for a long term war with a well meaning clan.....  We're well meaning.  And you attacked us.  Therefore you are my enemy and I will look for every opportunity to destroy you.  Thank God for AoW.  I was thrilled to hear they were marching your way. 

Good luck in the battle tomorrow.  Astralis fought with honor and deserves respect.  You deserve none.  Stop bitching.  You reap what you sow. 
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 24, 2014, 02:49:54 am
No...  AoW is attacking you because you marched 1k men into our fight with Astralis.  Then another 1200.  You attacked us for no reason.  And they also don't like you.  They are doing it on their own......  But we absolutely appreciate it.  I will be there and I will merc for AoW.  Anyone who's fought in the Northern wars should be there.  This has been going on for a month.  Everyone who's fought deserves a chance to see it through. 

We tried to work with you.  And I'll give you credit....  You point blank told me you were attacking either BC, Geforce, or Acre.  I appreciate the honesty.  But WTF do you expect?  Your diplomacy page says you are looking for a long term war with a well meaning clan.....  We're well meaning.  And you attacked us.  Therefore you are my enemy and I will look for every opportunity to destroy you.  Thank God for AoW.  I was thrilled to hear they were marching your way. 

Good luck in the battle tomorrow.  Astralis fought with honor and deserves respect.  You deserve none.  Stop bitching.  You reap what you sow.

dude what

No, really, dude what? I bitch at the end of the battles that suck particularly bad. I guess I shouldn't do that. From where I was sitting, astralis was getting jumped by 3 clans, so I tried to make it more even. Even with our help Astralis got seemingly steamrolled by you guys.

Did you really interpret that small comment as bitching? I talked to Wesley and he had a merc agreement with you and felt he should pay you back for the help you gave them at some point. That's fine, and I like Wesley, even if this is like the 3rd time he's started attacking us at Ismirala. Kinda funny, we had a laugh about it in teamspeak earlier. I really didn't know WHY they attacked us, and the battle briefing said "it was personal" and that really confused me. Now I know why they attack me, and that's fine.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on March 24, 2014, 03:16:23 am
I made that page and I'm not even in Frisia.

The page is also ridikalus, tbh.

Either way Frisia attacked us while we were fighting Astralis.  The rest is irrelevant. 
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on March 24, 2014, 03:33:30 am
dude what

No, really, dude what? I bitch at the end of the battles that suck particularly bad. I guess I shouldn't do that. From where I was sitting, astralis was getting jumped by 3 clans, so I tried to make it more even. Even with our help Astralis got seemingly steamrolled by you guys.

Did you really interpret that small comment as bitching? I talked to Wesley and he had a merc agreement with you and felt he should pay you back for the help you gave them at some point. That's fine, and I like Wesley, even if this is like the 3rd time he's started attacking us at Ismirala. Kinda funny, we had a laugh about it in teamspeak earlier. I really didn't know WHY they attacked us, and the battle briefing said "it was personal" and that really confused me. Now I know why they attack me, and that's fine.

I don't have time to play diplomacy with you.  At the time you attacked us you thought it was just BC and Astralis.  To that point is was.  WoM made no aggressive moves towards anyone until well after your attack.  You thought you had an opportunity to roll us and did your best.  You saw Acre and Gefore.... both powerful and at peace.  Then you saw us.... small... over matched.... and thought it was an opportunity. 

Why rewrite history? 

Once again anyone who's fought in the Northern Wars deserves a chance to see this through.  Here is the link.  http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=694  Sign up for AoW. 
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 24, 2014, 04:26:44 am
THIS IS A PUBLIC SPERG ANNOUNCEMENT
PLEASE TAKE CAUTION BEFORE READING; IF YOU ARE OF NON-NERDY CONSITUTION OR HAVE A LIFE, YOU MAY BE UNFIT FOR THIS REPORT


I don't have time to play diplomacy with you.  At the time you attacked us you thought it was just BC and Astralis.  To that point is was.  WoM made no aggressive moves towards anyone until well after your attack.  You thought you had an opportunity to roll us and did your best.  You saw Acre and Gefore.... both powerful and at peace.  Then you saw us.... small... over matched.... and thought it was an opportunity. 

Why rewrite history? 

Once again anyone who's fought in the Northern Wars deserves a chance to see this through.  Here is the link.  http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=694  Sign up for AoW.

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=398

Above is the link to the first act of aggression between northern factions. Black Company attacked Astralis after negotiations failed. This was on the 7th of march.

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=366

Next is the second act of aggression against Astralis, committed by AoW. Although likely irrelevant, since I think it was "border defense" or at the worst, simple piracy. This was on the 6th of march, one day earlier than the first BC attack.

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=430
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=465

These are two battles initiated by Astralis against WFA. I assume that Astralis perceived that Black Company and WFA were working together. These happened on the 9th of March.

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=510

This is the first siege of Nova Fenada, initiated by WFA against Astralis. This was on the 12th of march, but it occured at around 1AM EST, so it was much earlier than the following attack:

http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=513

This is the first battle that we launched against either BC or WFA. It occured on the 12th of march, about 12 hours after the first attack by WFA against Astralis.

So, by the time that we initiated any attack on either of your three factions, you had already initiated battles against Astralis with two of your three factions. In fact, I think HoC was a part of the Ward of Mithrim faction (sorry for calling you WFA a bunch earlier I guess) so it would not be inaccurate to say that all three of your factions had attacked astralis before we attacked you.

Interestingly enough, the first attack that we were a part of, so to speak, to was AGAINST astralis in this battle: http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=207

At the time me and Ildist had a thing called THE BUTTHOLE ALLIANCE and we were gonna team up and go hard on Acre but, not surprisingly, that petered out quick.



This has been a PUBLIC SPERG ANNOUNCEMENT


So yeah, you were ganging up on Astralis before we attacked. We were actually about to give Astralis the dick when you guys attacked them, because they took Fenada after we softened it up.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Stabb on March 24, 2014, 04:34:17 am
That is a lot of research just for a forum post, congratulations on becoming a bigger nerd than Kesh.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Wesleysnipes on March 24, 2014, 04:44:30 am
Well then, I don't know what to say. Perhaps you should surrender and be compensated by 50 percent of your army Sandy D?

Ps: great research, seriously.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on March 24, 2014, 04:48:14 am
Dude...  I've already told you...  I don't have time to play politics.  You attacked us... period.  You had a chance to work with us.  Instead you decided to fight.  You can make all the nerd announcements you want.  I really don't care. 

I came to you and tried to work out a deal.  Instead you fucked us.  All good.  We're not crying about it.  Why are you?  You guys hit us with over 2k men right in the middle of a war that had nothing to do with you.  Did Black Company whine and cry like sissies on the forums?  No.   So WTF?????
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: SittingBull on March 24, 2014, 04:48:58 am
Damn... we've been in a lot of battles.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on March 24, 2014, 04:50:01 am
Damn... we've been in a lot of battles.

No kidding dude.  And it was all early.  Honestly.... if we had it to do over again... we would just move elsewhere lol. 

And seriously...  Kudos to Astralis...  well fought.  Hope the best for you. 
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Wesleysnipes on March 24, 2014, 04:50:46 am
Damn... we've been in a lot of battles.

Not like last strat wink wink I'm a dink.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on March 24, 2014, 04:56:45 am
posts a bunch of forum links and some lines explaining them to get across that he is right about his perspective

WOW LOOK AT THIS HUGE WHINING BITCH OMG DID WE WHINE LIKE BITCHES ROFL JUST STOP OKAY NERD WE ARE GOING TO BEAT YOU SO HARD AT VIDEO GAMES

please stop
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: HappyPhantom on March 24, 2014, 05:04:34 am
I fought a couple of battles on both sides, Astralis and Black Company/WoM (usually applied to both and went with whoever picked first) as had valid reasons to back each of you. And for what it's worth, I enjoyed mercing equally for both - standup leadership on both sides.

Now that Frisia is involved - WTF it's a three-way tie.

Why can't some of you spergs fight with someone I actually have a beef with, there are plenty of douches around, instead of other stand-up-blokes. I'd name a few but don't want to drag Dracul into anything ;) - it's probs pretty obvious from some of my posts anyway :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 24, 2014, 05:06:56 am
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Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Vengt037 on March 24, 2014, 05:14:46 am
Ladies and gentlemen .... Mr. Conway Twitty
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Jona on March 24, 2014, 05:17:24 am
Damn... we've been in a lot of battles.

Yeah man... despite what Frisia may think:

Even with our help Astralis got seemingly steamrolled by you guys.

you guys put up a hell of a fight. No steamrolling occurred at all. The war was not entirely one-sided, especially with Frisia coming to your aide on several occasions.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: HardRice on March 24, 2014, 05:23:16 am
This post was not and is not about Frisia and I'd like to keep it that way.

This post is about how masculine and handsome we all think Dalfador is, so let me just say, damn Dalfador you're pretty fuckin masculine and handsome.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on March 24, 2014, 05:25:36 am
I remember why I stayed out of the diplomacy forums.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Artyem on March 24, 2014, 06:44:40 am
Gorgons of the North should just merge with Acre and AoW and make FCC 5.0, they can use their superior numbers to take out the evil LCO - GFORCE alliance.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Wesleysnipes on March 24, 2014, 07:22:28 am
We would need a mastermind like Kesh
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sparvico on March 24, 2014, 07:42:32 am
We would need a mastermind like Kesh

I hate to say it but things are looking pretty bleak in terms of excitement without KeshCC.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Pistachio on March 24, 2014, 08:02:49 am
Kesh actually made strat fun. Was a lot of fun drama and good battles. Too bad hes gone :( I mean hes in EU attacking people.........................................................
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 24, 2014, 08:31:54 am
Dude...  I've already told you...  I don't have time to play politics.  You attacked us... period.  You had a chance to work with us.  Instead you decided to fight.  You can make all the nerd announcements you want.  I really don't care. 

I came to you and tried to work out a deal.  Instead you fucked us.  All good.  We're not crying about it.  Why are you?  You guys hit us with over 2k men right in the middle of a war that had nothing to do with you.  Did Black Company whine and cry like sissies on the forums?  No.   So WTF?????

Nigga, are you serious?

I mean I was sober like 5 hours ago so I made a post with a lot of thought and sperg research in it but since apparently I don't have to bale hay or fuck with cows tomorrow I'll just shitpost. Btw baling hay is the absolute worst work i've ever done in my entire life.

Like holy shit, "instead you fucked us" on a war that you outnumbered the opponent quite heavily and we barely evened the numbers? Not to mention the heavy advantage you get from fallen and other former coalition EU archers if the battle is before 7pm EST? We fucked you? Yeah, that is straight fucking retarded since you decided to wreck astralis with more than 5/3 of their numbers and we evened the engagement, now you're upset because we jumped in? Are you upset because we didn't jump in without posting an RP post 3 days in advance on the forum? Are you upset because we decided to help out Astralis which we "had no fight in"? If you're gonna jump astralis with 3 clans outnumbering then 3/2 roughly, why would you not wipe us next? Of course we're going to help while we have a chance instead of trying to fight you after we're outnumbered 5:2 or more if Astralis quit or went mostly inactive after you wiped them.

You saying that you came to us and tried to work out a deal is very misleading. Yeah, you wanted us to sit out while you fucked astralis with superior numbers and more active players. I've seen more then 4-5 astralis guys with 100 troops just running around aimlessly. I ain't trying to insult astralis, but they aren't big enough nerds to do strat as hard as others, really. They just aren't. They get drunk as fuck in their TS at night after work and have a lot of fucking people in there, but that demographic doesn't exactly mean they'll be good at strategus.

Yeah so, I probably shouldn't have posted this. In conclusion, try to come wipe us, bros. Cum @ us. We wanted a fight and we'll take a fight even if its 4 clans against 1.

Dude...  I've already told you...  I don't have time to play politics.  You attacked us... period.  You had a chance to work with us.  Instead you decided to fight.  You can make all the nerd announcements you want.  I really don't care. 

You guys hit us with over 2k men right in the middle of a war that had nothing to do with you. 

Sorry, but we are giant homosexuals that find it our personal business to be brave internet knights and come to the aid of a clan right next to us getting 3v1'd.

Nice work on the lack of response to you being wrong, m8

If you don't have the time to play politics with us you should probably stop taking the 5 minutes to post anything on the diplomacy forums btw

@wesley Surrender? I don't really think you understand how much of gigantic stubborn sperg-nerds we are. In strat 4 when you attacked ismirala I'm pretty sure I dissuaded you by posting a huge wall of text about how we would go after your traders all strat and make things absolutely terrible for you.

Btw, we actually weren't big enough nerds back then to do any of that back then. Maybe we are now, I don't know.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 24, 2014, 04:08:25 pm
Kesh actually made strat fun. Was a lot of fun drama and good battles. Too bad hes gone :( I mean hes in EU attacking people.........................................................

RIP in peace Kesh.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Wesleysnipes on March 24, 2014, 04:11:19 pm
I like it Sandy, nice post ^
You're right about strat 4. But we are even better this strat aswell. Besides I told Black Company I would send 1k troops. That's it. Better then us sending out 5k armed right? Love you Sandy.

Ps: Surrender and become a squid and lay your tentacle where ever you please....
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: xOps on March 24, 2014, 05:34:50 pm
Poor Sandy, he is a good man.. If only he could have avoided the stupidity and flaming that Daruvian brought anywhere he went you might have had it better. To be honest, Daruvian is the reason for your blight. I'd explain why in rather flavorful fashion but I think your powers of deduction can fill in the blanks for you. I tip my hat to you sir, if only you were able to listen to real truth (me) you could have avoided wasting time here in the forums. See you soon.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on March 24, 2014, 06:09:37 pm
Nigga, are you serious?

Like holy shit, "instead you fucked us" on a war that you outnumbered the opponent quite heavily and we barely evened the numbers? Not to mention the heavy advantage you get from fallen and other former coalition EU archers if the battle is before 7pm EST? We fucked you? Yeah, that is straight fucking retarded since you decided to wreck astralis with more than 5/3 of their numbers and we evened the engagement, now you're upset because we jumped in? Are you upset because we didn't jump in without posting an RP post 3 days in advance on the forum? Are you upset because we decided to help out Astralis which we "had no fight in"? If you're gonna jump astralis with 3 clans outnumbering then 3/2 roughly, why would you not wipe us next? Of course we're going to help while we have a chance instead of trying to fight you after we're outnumbered 5:2 or more if Astralis quit or went mostly inactive after you wiped them.


Who outnumbered who?  Black Company is not that big of a clan.  Our players are active.  But we're not that big.  WFA is a relatively new clan from last strat.  And HoC had a few members at the time in WFA.  Don't you have some Raven players in Frisia?  So were we fighting Frisia and Raven?  No.  HoC didn't get heavily involved until the middle of the war.  A war that we were losing BTW.  If anything increased our player base it was your attack.  You motivated our players. 

We were outnumbered in every single battle.  We were out geared in every single battle.  Even the last fight for Fenada.....  1200 vs 1500  http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=672

We were outnumbered every time we fought you.  And we rarely had enough gear for the tickets we put on the field. 
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=598
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=558
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=545
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=533

To be honest....  I was kinda trollin you.  I was not completely serious.  But the whole "Poor Frisia Coming to Astralis rescue against overwhelming odds" thing is BS.  Point blank... you attacked us because you thought you could win.  I don't have anything against you personally.  But we were definitely the underdogs here..... especially in the beginning.  I had to pay mercs the ENTIRE war because we did not have the support needed.  Frisia and Astralis can fill out half a roster by themselves.  We have an average of 8-12 players between us.  You guys held the merc advantage most of the war.  But as things heated up.... our players became more and more active.  Jona brought in some HoC who hadn't been active in a long time.  So did BC with some former Fallen members.  But it didn't start that way. 




Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Lethwin Far Seeker on March 24, 2014, 07:00:58 pm
All this QQ about one side having an advantage or not.  Why would one attack without an advantage?  As Sun Tzu said (Warning: Nerd aura intensity increasing) “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win”.

Likewise he also said “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.” which is exactly what Frisia did and good for them!

If one must banter about evening the odds then I promptly run around in circles screaming "BS!!!!" and with a palpable degree of effervescence softly remind everyone how a handful of Elf dork lords battled Daruvian's mega troll faction last strat and no one then sought to "even the odds".

15k CC troops vs 7k WFA at Sungetche?  No evening of the odds there either and that's OK!  Dracul\CC felt like they needed to attack someone so they attacked the castle they knew they could take. 

Less demonization and canonization of fellow nerd lords and more [insert voice actor LarryTheMagicalCheetah] "Jolly good show what what!"

Well fought Astralis, I wish you better fortune elsewhere.

P.S.  "palpable degree of effervescence" is an unlikely proper use of vocabulary but I hadn't used either of these words in a while so I felt like giving them some sunshine.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
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Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: dreadnok on March 24, 2014, 07:56:33 pm
No...  AoW is attacking you because you marched 1k men into our fight with Astralis.  Then another 1200.  You attacked us for no reason.  And they also don't like you.  They are doing it on their own......  But we absolutely appreciate it.  I will be there and I will merc for AoW.  Anyone who's fought in the Northern wars should be there.  This has been going on for a month.  Everyone who's fought deserves a chance to see it through. 

We tried to work with you.  And I'll give you credit....  You point blank told me you were attacking either BC, Geforce, or Acre.  I appreciate the honesty.  But WTF do you expect?  Your diplomacy page says you are looking for a long term war with a well meaning clan.....  We're well meaning.  And you attacked us.  Therefore you are my enemy and I will look for every opportunity to destroy you.  Thank God for AoW.  I was thrilled to hear they were marching your way. 

Good luck in the battle tomorrow.  Astralis fought with honor and deserves respect.  You deserve none.  Stop bitching.  You reap what you sow.


Ya Astralis 5 man army good job, fuck black company
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Relit on March 24, 2014, 08:03:39 pm
Poor Sandy, he is a good man.. If only he could have avoided the stupidity and flaming that Daruvian brought anywhere he went you might have had it better. To be honest, Daruvian is the reason for your blight. I'd explain why in rather flavorful fashion but I think your powers of deduction can fill in the blanks for you. I tip my hat to you sir, if only you were able to listen to real truth (me) you could have avoided wasting time here in the forums. See you soon.

As a outsider who has been repeatedly on the receiving end of Daruvian's nonsense I can tell you this: Anything he says is not to be taken seriously. Especially the insults. How can anybody actually get mad about being called something from him? He uses such excellent prose and descriptors, its like reading a work of art (of shittalking). I laugh at his insults to myself and others and always wondered why people get so upset at him when he is obviously doing this for laughs and not to be mean-spirited.

That people even think hes being serious is the funniest part of all.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on March 24, 2014, 08:31:12 pm
aw you're so sweet babe
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: HardRice on March 24, 2014, 08:34:55 pm
This post was not and is not about Frisia and I'd like to keep it that way.

This post is about how masculine and handsome we all think Dalfador is, so let me just say, damn Dalfador you're pretty fuckin masculine and handsome.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: HappyPhantom on March 24, 2014, 08:36:28 pm
...  how a handful of Elf dork lords battled ...

<3
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: SittingBull on March 24, 2014, 08:42:36 pm
Why would one attack without an advantage? 

We like to fight things.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: dreadnok on March 24, 2014, 08:55:07 pm
As a outsider who has been repeatedly on the receiving end of Daruvian's nonsense I can tell you this: Anything he says is not to be taken seriously. Especially the insults. How can anybody actually get mad about being called something from him? He uses such excellent prose and descriptors, its like reading a work of art (of shittalking). I laugh at his insults to myself and others and always wondered why people get so upset at him when he is obviously doing this for laughs and not to be mean-spirited.

That people even think hes being serious is the funniest part of all.

He's fucking brilliant
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on March 24, 2014, 10:08:05 pm
Was that battle actually fun to anyone?
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Artyem on March 24, 2014, 10:10:16 pm
Was that battle actually fun to anyone?

Yeah, it was a super impressive underdog victory for the AoW / WoN party.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 24, 2014, 10:12:45 pm
I'd rather get shit on by a 10+ merc advantage in melee rather than by archers. The former was the case, so at least there's that.

It's sort of like having the "best" kind of cancer.

Actually, I'd like to request (not like I can make demands of how you live your vidja game life or anything) that unless the battle is an interception or something, they take place later in the day. Getting shit on isn't fun, but its much more fun if both sides can get 51 mercs. 8-10 PM EST is ideal since it is unlikely that there will be more than 1 significant battle in a day.

I can't force anyone to do anything though; we'll consistently have fewer mercs earlier in the day than later. It's wise to initiate battles earlier against us if winning is the sole objective, but it has been less fun for me to win in the past with a large merc advantage. When we were fighting Hospitaller last strat and we were up 8 or more mercs every battle it did get boring very quickly.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Wesleysnipes on March 24, 2014, 10:40:11 pm
Its gay. But, Strat Tactics.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 24, 2014, 10:40:54 pm
Its gay. But, Strat Tactics.

I don't blame you, you do what you gotta do. Still, it didn't kill me to ask.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Wesleysnipes on March 24, 2014, 10:55:29 pm
Oh sorry you added those extra two paragraphs after my post. But generally we prefer later battles as well. I apologize for that Sandy.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: Lethwin Far Seeker on March 24, 2014, 11:43:11 pm
Yeah regardless of who has some EU mercs early battles are a pain for everyone.  I didn't make the Ismirala attack and was late for the attack on Fenada.  With limited gold for upkeep though and risk of being intercepted sometimes one has to just attack when they can.
Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on March 25, 2014, 02:51:42 am
why cant we just solve our differences, guys?

Title: Re: WoM/Astralis War - The Grandmaster's Narrow Escape from the Astralis Barbarians
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