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Title: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: engurrand on February 07, 2014, 12:45:32 am
Video rant by me on said topic.

Main points: We need a way to feel pain in games to increase their enjoyment. The time is now to begin the development. Who wants to work together?

Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Xant on February 07, 2014, 12:48:32 am
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: engurrand on February 07, 2014, 12:50:17 am
Quote from: Xant on February 07, 2014, 12:48:32 am

Lol not in a very innovated mood are you?
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Life on February 07, 2014, 12:55:02 am
sorry, didnt watch the video for more than 15 seconds.  :D

I stopped it after he said "THE TIME, The time has come!"
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: engurrand on February 07, 2014, 12:57:15 am
Quote from: Life on February 07, 2014, 12:55:02 am
sorry, didnt watch the video for more than 15 seconds.  :D

I stopped it after he said "THE TIME, The time has come!"

I wasn't expected a good reception but i was at least expecting some of the gay men in this community to enjoy the idea of pain based gaming.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Nightmare798 on February 07, 2014, 12:58:40 am
I think the reason why people play some video games is that they want to enjoy the otherwise dangerous experience without being affected by negative outcomes and conditions.

I mean, why the fuck would I play games like tekken while feeling every hit my in-game avatar suffers?
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on February 07, 2014, 01:03:29 am
As you opened that video I thought you were going to burst straight into Marvin K. Mooney...
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Butan on February 07, 2014, 01:14:05 am
Quote from: Nightmare798 on February 07, 2014, 12:58:40 am
I think the reason why people play some video games is that they want to enjoy the otherwise dangerous experience without being affected by negative outcomes and conditions.

I mean, why the fuck would I play games like tekken while feeling every hit my in-game avatar suffers?


Because immersion is a part of the enjoyment,

Also the "negative" outcome could be very minor as long as the pain we talk about is a minor one, doubling immersion for some tingling sensation or something alike doesnt seem a bad idea.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Nightmare798 on February 07, 2014, 01:43:35 am
Quote from: Butan on February 07, 2014, 01:14:05 am

Because immersion is a part of the enjoyment,

Also the "negative" outcome could be very minor as long as the pain we talk about is a minor one, doubling immersion for some tingling sensation or something alike doesnt seem a bad idea.

Immersion can be achieved by better ways than that.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Rumblood on February 07, 2014, 02:17:34 am
Maybe a tingle to tell you what direction a bullet came from, but pain? People disable FOG because it causes them too much pain.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Xant on February 07, 2014, 02:46:16 am
Maybe they could sell different versions of games. One, The Little Girl Edition where there's no pain, and two, the Real Men Edition where you feel pain.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: engurrand on February 07, 2014, 02:53:26 am
Quote from: Rumblood on February 07, 2014, 02:17:34 am
Maybe a tingle to tell you what direction a bullet came from, but pain? People disable FOG because it causes them too much pain.

I feel like the pvp aspect and the whole "leet crew" mentality bullshit will be enough to get people to accept it..

Why just duel someone and win when you can actually cause them pain?

It brings a whole new domain to trolling...
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Nightmare798 on February 07, 2014, 12:11:20 pm
Quote from: Xant on February 07, 2014, 02:46:16 am
Maybe they could sell different versions of games. One, The Little Girl Edition where there's no pain, and two, the Real Men Edition where you feel pain.

Real men dont need video games to experience things like war, street fights etc.

I play video games to relax and have fun.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Leesin on February 07, 2014, 12:29:56 pm
CRPG already does this, they have a lot of night time maps that make my eyes hurt, so real.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: AntiBlitz on February 07, 2014, 03:37:56 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1581233/Computer-combat-jacket-simulates-being-shot.html

Idk if it causes pain, but im i remember this coming out ages ago.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Swaggart on February 07, 2014, 04:38:20 pm
Quote from: engurrand on February 07, 2014, 02:53:26 am
I feel like the pvp aspect and the whole "leet crew" mentality bullshit will be enough to get people to accept it..

Why just duel someone and win when you can actually cause them pain?

It brings a whole new domain to trolling sadism...

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: serr on February 07, 2014, 11:09:44 pm
Reminds me my childhood when we played counter strike with friends on one computer - while one was playing, others were standing behind with pillows in hands ready to grant you full immersion when being headshotted :lol:
Can't say it was enjoyable, but it really motivated you to play carefully and avoid shots :)
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Xant on February 08, 2014, 01:36:23 am
Quote from: Nightmare798 on February 07, 2014, 12:11:20 pm
Real men dont need video games to experience things like war, street fights etc.

I play video games to relax and have fun.
Then the Little Girl Edition would be for you. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Nightmare798 on February 08, 2014, 01:40:45 am
Quote from: Xant on February 08, 2014, 01:36:23 am
Then the Little Girl Edition would be for you. Problem solved.

Seriously, what the heck do you know about my life? Keep comments like these to yourself, you twat.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Sniger on February 08, 2014, 01:44:41 am
Quote from: Nightmare798 on February 08, 2014, 01:40:45 am
Seriously, what the heck do you know about my life? Keep comments like these to yourself, you twat.

 :lol:

ignore is the greatest feature
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Nightmare798 on February 08, 2014, 01:47:51 am
Quote from: Sniger on February 08, 2014, 01:44:41 am
:lol:

ignore is the greatest feature

Yeah I might just want to try it out...
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: engurrand on February 08, 2014, 02:34:34 am
Much butt hurt.

See...

Why get argue when you can duel him and make him FEEL PAIN..

Show him WHO IS BOSS BOY TOP KING..

Any ways.... I was thinking some people might have had some insight in how to implement this into game, or other such thing.. Not just the hardware but the firmware for the device and software integration.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Xant on February 08, 2014, 03:06:15 am
Quote from: Nightmare798 on February 08, 2014, 01:40:45 am
Seriously, what the heck do you know about my life? Keep comments like these to yourself, you twat.
But you said you wanted the Little Girl Edition yourself.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Rumblood on February 08, 2014, 03:20:32 am
Quote from: engurrand on February 07, 2014, 02:53:26 am
Why just duel someone and win when you can actually cause them pain?

Because you are online and they will tell you that they are wearing it with fake cries of pain and all. Except you will be the only idiot actually wearing it.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: engurrand on February 08, 2014, 05:55:40 am
Quote from: Rumblood on February 08, 2014, 03:20:32 am
Because you are online and they will tell you that they are wearing it with fake cries of pain and all. Except you will be the only idiot actually wearing it.

HACKS
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Nightmare798 on February 08, 2014, 11:39:16 am
Quote from: Xant on February 08, 2014, 03:06:15 am
But you said you wanted the Little Girl Edition yourself.

Yeah so everyone who plays video games to relax and have fun are little girls?

Yeah fuck logic.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Xant on February 08, 2014, 12:24:24 pm
Quote from: Nightmare798 on February 08, 2014, 11:39:16 am
Yeah so everyone who plays video games to relax and have fun are little girls?

Yeah fuck logic.
Well it does indeed seem like "fuck logic" is your motto.

This is the fifth time you fail to understand the context completely
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Christo on February 08, 2014, 02:06:04 pm
Pain reinforcement next level should be ear pain when you are close to explosions or intense gun/cannon fire, lol

now that would make you camp all day.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Tagora on February 08, 2014, 02:20:17 pm
I personally don't understand why we can't simply flay each other with swords in real life.
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Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Christo on February 08, 2014, 02:22:54 pm
Quote from: Tagora on February 08, 2014, 02:20:17 pm
I personally don't understand why we can't simply flay each other with swords in real life.
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+20 ironflesh?
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Tibe on February 08, 2014, 02:52:51 pm
Why just stop there, why not go further then pain? Like for example getting the taste of balls in your mouth whenever someone T-bags you ingame?
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Nightmare798 on February 08, 2014, 03:58:02 pm
Quote from: Xant on February 08, 2014, 12:24:24 pm
Well it does indeed seem like "fuck logic" is your motto.

This is the fifth time you fail to understand the context completely

*checks his pocket*

Wow, could you believe that? I have ZERO fucks to give!
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Rumblood on February 08, 2014, 05:28:16 pm
Quote from: Tibe on February 08, 2014, 02:52:51 pm
Why just stop there, why not go further then pain? Like for example getting the taste of balls in your mouth whenever someone T-bags you ingame?

Please, spare us your fantasies  :lol:
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Butan on February 08, 2014, 05:34:03 pm
Quote from: Tibe on February 08, 2014, 02:52:51 pm
Why just stop there, why not go further then pain? Like for example getting the taste of balls in your mouth whenever someone T-bags you ingame?

Post this suggestion on Second Life's forum  :P
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: engurrand on February 08, 2014, 11:05:13 pm
hE IS ACTUALLY ON TO SOMETHING
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Sniger on February 10, 2014, 08:44:47 pm
Quote from: Nightmare798 on February 08, 2014, 01:47:51 am
Yeah I might just want to try it out...

I can only recommend  :lol:

its really awesome, it auto-hides all posts by the subject and also subject cant mail you
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Havoco on February 11, 2014, 02:24:56 am
I guess they can always make a monitor that shoots shit at you when you die or get hurt in game.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Jack1 on February 11, 2014, 02:50:53 am
I think that if you choose to play as a ranged char you should have to wear a dogs shock collar. Every time you shoot you get to yelp a tad bit.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo on February 11, 2014, 02:53:32 am
You look so awesomely 1993.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Banok on February 11, 2014, 02:59:40 am
what about those things that electrute your muscles to work them out, like you put on your stomach and it supposely gives you a six pack.

well aprently they hurt. so if you hook those up to your body, not only are you getting pain feedback, but the game is working out your body at the same time (at least slightly).

P:s video was too waffly, but I do agree with you.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: engurrand on February 11, 2014, 03:34:00 am
Quote from: Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo on February 11, 2014, 02:53:32 am
You look so awesomely 1993.

can you give me some fashion tips?

SERIOUSLY....
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Tagora on February 11, 2014, 06:07:10 am
Quote from: engurrand on February 11, 2014, 03:34:00 am
can you give me some fashion tips?

SERIOUSLY....
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Hey, look, it's engurrand.  Everyone say hi to engurrand before he goes bing bang a doodle do.

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Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Clockworkkiller on February 11, 2014, 12:16:15 pm
Wait what, you guys actually support this?


Wtf.....


I'm with nightmare on this, I play games to have fun and relax
I don't enjoy pain, and i try to avoid it, so why the fuck would I willingly submit to it
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Xant on February 11, 2014, 12:59:41 pm
Well, here's some new news: the world doesn't revolve around you. You might not enjoy pain, but that doesn't mean others wouldn't find it interesting.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Clockworkkiller on February 11, 2014, 01:11:46 pm
If you enjoy the feeling of pain, you need therapy
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Radament on February 11, 2014, 01:23:14 pm
how about treat pain with videogames ? (sad story inside)

http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/24/14648057-groundbreaking-experiment-in-virtual-reality-uses-video-game-to-treat-pain?lite (http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/24/14648057-groundbreaking-experiment-in-virtual-reality-uses-video-game-to-treat-pain?lite)

maybe could work , maybe not but that guy is tough as fuck.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Xant on February 11, 2014, 01:31:03 pm
Quote from: Clockworkkiller on February 11, 2014, 01:11:46 pm
If you enjoy the feeling of pain, you need therapy
Why is that? Do you not like enjoyment?
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Christo on February 11, 2014, 01:35:33 pm
Quote from: Clockworkkiller on February 11, 2014, 12:16:15 pm
Wait what, you guys actually support this?


Wtf.....


I'm with nightmare on this, I play games to have fun and relax
I don't enjoy pain, and i try to avoid it, so why the fuck would I willingly submit to it

Quote from: Clockworkkiller on February 11, 2014, 01:11:46 pm
If you enjoy the feeling of pain, you need therapy

http://bit.ly/1m1C9gS (http://bit.ly/1m1C9gS)
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Rumblood on February 11, 2014, 04:01:15 pm
Quote from: Clockworkkiller on February 11, 2014, 01:11:46 pm
If you enjoy the feeling of pain, you need therapy


Not a fan of endorphins?

For vision, there can be no shadow without light.
For man, there can be no light without shadow.
Title: Re: Pain Renforcement Based Gaming
Post by: Nightmare798 on February 11, 2014, 04:08:56 pm
Quote from: Christo on February 11, 2014, 01:35:33 pm
http://bit.ly/1m1C9gS (http://bit.ly/1m1C9gS)

What a hogwash...