Block Stun(weapon weight), reach, speed and damage
-Should also mention that polearm or 2H should always beat 1H in a 1v1. Especially the heavier polearms such as long bardiche.
Block Stun(weapon weight), reach, speed and damage
Its kind of BS to say 1 handers should lose to 2 hand and pole. If it were true we wouldn't see so many 1 hand with shield around. The shield doesn't suddenly make 1 handers good, it actually can make fighting more awkward depending on the situation
1 handers are pretty balanced against 2 hand and pole imo (possibly too good in some ways). They all have pros and cons and if you are good at melee you will survive a long time with manual block and movement. Plus they have very good attacks too. They all got their weight increased not long ago so block stun is hardly an issue
The issue is you have not only a very similar character makeup in melee but you have very good ranged ability too thats not really that player skill based.
I use Long bardiche 90% of the time and when I fight 1H they rarely get a swing in unless they are a skilled player. The same goes for any of the weightier polearms or 2H.
I have 63 body armour and 69hp that might bias my view of 1H swords a little.
Can I ask how much body armour you use? All 1H attack direction but stab barely hurt me. My understanding was that average NA armour was around 65.
I understand your argument. Getting the 3 shield skill required to counter xbow is more of a sacrifice than that of the xbowman
Pretty much no requirements
One handers are very good in their own right without adding ranged as well
A good melee player has the best of both worlds. Great ranged, decent armour, good melee. How is this a balanced class?
espada would be stun locked
I should mention its a +3 set so its weight is low. I still stand by 1H being ata substantial disadvantage in a fight vs 2H or polearm
WTF did you smoke? 1h (without shield ofc) is by FAR the most superior duel class in this freaking game. With my level 30 18/18 1h alt I was able to beat people on EU3 were I often failed with my level 34 21/21 2h main.just ignore him, like rest of us
WTF did you smoke? 1h (without shield ofc) is by FAR the most superior duel class in this freaking game. With my level 30 18/18 1h alt I was able to beat people on EU3 were I often failed with my level 34 21/21 2h main.
What if 1 handers became 2 slot and 0 slot 1 handers became 1 slot?left slot system alone
1 lot of ammo, 1 slot 1 hander (old 0 slot) and xbow. Same with Archers. Archers can use a better 1 hand or take 2 stacks of ammo
What if 1 handers became 2 slot and 0 slot 1 handers became 1 slot?
1 lot of ammo, 1 slot 1 hander (old 0 slot) and xbow. Same with Archers. Archers can use a better 1 hand or take 2 stacks of ammo
Lol
1H best dueling class... tard. I bet you wouldn't even get 1 swing in against me.
This thread should be in chamber of tears. For one simple reason. 1h + xbow is the same as ever. The only difference is the amount of people playing it. To discuss about 1h mechanics there are several posts. Xbow fever nowadays? Yes. And the same 2h lobbyism everytime ranged population increase. Just assume it like the counter-part of 2h-polearm metagame mechanics abuse.
- Hiltslashing.
- Pikeman jumpers.
- Str crutchers.
- 1h&shield with indestructible one.
- Insane amount of cavalry.
To all crying about this combination: You have to get used to the fact that having a weapon that can one hit most people has its drawbacks, you spoiled brats. Either that, or switch class. Nobody forces you to play 2H/polearm.
Where's the drawback to this 1h+shield+xbow which is capable of one-shots (at long range even :wink:)?
Where's the drawback to this 1h+shield+xbow which is capable of one-shots (at long range even :wink:)?
Ive played a few gens of it on my main. It is pretty solid, but not by far a masterrace. I found it relatively boring. Cbow is pretty lame when it come to entertainmentvalue as far as im concerned.
This. The only drawback of 1h/crossbow hybrids is that the xbow part is boring as fuck. Beyond that, there's very little reason not to do it if you intend to be a 1h footman.
Still, the fact that it's boring doesn't make it less overpowered.
Overpowered? You move like snail, your reload times are abysmal, your upkeep is godawful, and you divide your wpf into two different categories. If it bothers you people too much then why dont you nab some thrown to counter it?
I can understand why people cry about archers, facing constant arrow spam sucks, but crying about 1H/Xbow, Who are at serious upkeep and reach disadvantage seems stupid to me.
...You move like snail...Have you tried archery? On hi lvl with 9 ATH lots of ppl are able to catch me. Kiting (read: run away, shoot, run away, shoot) is impossible even for me with quite op bulid (18/27). Some sort of kiting is possible if a str whore with max 2 ath wants to catch me.
Have you tried archery? On hi lvl with 9 ATH lots of ppl are able to catch me. Kiting (read: run away, shoot, run away, shoot) is impossible even for me with quite op bulid (18/27). Some sort of kiting is possible if a str whore with max 2 ath wants to catch me.
Arbalest + steel bolts= 10.6 weight (ready to shoot)
one quiver of arrows= 10 weight (wait, i need a bow to shoot)
So argument move like snail is not an argument in this conversation 8-)
If I was a crossbowman, I wouldn't take a 1h weapon, I'd take a +3 Langes Messer in 2h mode. Similar stats to a Katana, but with a much more damaging thrust (albeit with the polearm thrust animation). A 1h sword may have a better thrust animation for certain situations, but the sideswing damage with 5PS is laughably low on anyone with decent armor. If you are facing a crossbowman with a stabby 1h sword, you know he's going to be relying on thrusts attacks, so just downblock/facehug like you would against a hoplite.
An xbowman with a 2h Langes is equally deadly with all four attack directions, so they are much less predictable to fight.
I think not Phew. The best option (imo) is a blunt&pierce weapon. The lack of STR don't allow to land good hits. 2h animations are good but cut damage is not a friend of a low str char.