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Title: Throwing secret
Post by: pepejul on January 05, 2014, 01:55:51 pm
Hello guys. I tried some throwshit characters but I still don't understand some little things...

- how can you see targets when you play 3rd view ? So far... so little in screen....

- how can you play 1st view ? I always throw my shits into the ground when I do it...

- what is better ? Throw from far or near ennemies ?

- what is best ? A lot of throwing little tiny shits or few massive big shits to throw ?

- 1H skill for secondary or pole skills ?

Please...I need your awesome advices...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Smithy on January 05, 2014, 02:01:38 pm
I love your style of writing.  :)
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: LordBerenger on January 05, 2014, 02:57:12 pm
Iirc luck luck luck compensate for running fgt 2hers and throwing lance shotgunning
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: NJ_Legion_Icedtea on January 05, 2014, 03:03:01 pm
Use 3rd person view but don't aim at enemies far away. Throwing is extremely inaccurate.
Unless you are using throwing lances use 1h skill or maybe even 2h.
Throw whatever feels best for you. Spears, any of the axes and Jarids are lovely.
But don't disregard the any of them! Even daggers can be very deadly (certainly with high PT) and are much more accurate.
Jump around and use your light armour and agility to its full potential.
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: F i n on January 05, 2014, 03:04:14 pm
Pepe! I told you years ago!
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: pepejul on January 05, 2014, 03:12:56 pm
I though all changed now with patch....

I m actually 18/15 and I TH mates but never reach ennemies.... help me finude !
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: F i n on January 05, 2014, 03:18:09 pm
go 15/24, use axes and aim! :)

-dont use 1st person, zoom out on 3rd person.
-The closer you are to friendly players, the less dangerous their life is.
-Use Jumpthrowing to throw stuff over your friends heads.
-Dont waste ammo on shields - use your melee mode (axes and throwing lance have the strongest)
-Use high athletics
-Learn how to switch weaponmodes during combat and use both - throwing and melee to fight in close combat.
-Attack enemies on every distance - when running towards archers, spam axes but dont aim to high, so you can pick em up again when you're getting closer (Makes archers go "OMGOMGOMGOMGOM"
-if you're attacked by a horse, jump to the right and take advantage of the speedbonus (Either head of the horse (Up to warhorse) or body shots to medium armored riders = 98% oneshot kills)
-Pick up a sidearm as soon as you've got one stack of throwing weapons thrown away.

Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: pepejul on January 05, 2014, 03:21:30 pm
respec so ?
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Bulzur on January 05, 2014, 03:26:13 pm
Kurogane is a 21/21, with 7 PT, 7 WM and (soon) 6 Athletics.

Completely utter garbage in melee, but with 170 wpf in throwing, i really feel accurate. My full weight is also below 10, so i probably really have 170 wpf ingame.

I mainly use Jarids, for the pierce damage, bonus against shield, and an overall good damage and accuracy.

Throwing Lances could be fun, but i can't even 1shot some people with them, and the slower reload/aiming speed, means you can get done by cav.


So i either go full Jarid (12 of these), or two stacks of Jarids, and two stacks of Throwing Lance.

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Fin's tips are pretty good. Except that i run away, and am more of a dedicated cav hunter.

And finally, throwing empty ammo is bugged. Even with 0 Jarids, you'll still have some slots taken. When i use my full Jarids ammo, i sometimes can't even pick up a 2h sword and another throwing weapon, always dropping one, even though i've litteraly 0 Jarids with me (so 4 slots).
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: F i n on January 05, 2014, 03:26:25 pm
Not necessarily. (@ PEPE :) )
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: pepejul on January 05, 2014, 03:27:32 pm
I respeceed...  I need IF or not ?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: F i n on January 05, 2014, 03:28:51 pm
Quote from: pepejul on January 05, 2014, 03:27:32 pm
I respeceed...  I need IF or not ?  :mrgreen:

NO. IF is a waste. I've got 0 if and 15 strength.

Your best defense is speed and good blocking (And using obstacles vs arrows :) )

Try 15/24, 8wm, 8athl, 5ps, 5pt, 140 throwing 130 1h @ lvl 31. (Heavy throwing axes)
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: pepejul on January 05, 2014, 03:31:31 pm
ok I ll do my new FINWANNABE alt !

tell me the clothes and the face =)  :wink:
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: F i n on January 05, 2014, 03:47:59 pm
Quote from: pepejul on January 05, 2014, 03:31:31 pm
ok I ll do my new FINWANNABE alt !

tell me the clothes and the face =)  :wink:

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Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: isatis on January 05, 2014, 04:05:15 pm
Pepe...

Don't go with this ''agi'' thing...

Go wit the true side of throwing, LE secret!!!

Go with Stones, thay have a +100 hidden luck factor!

Even Palestinian uses them!! You can't go wrong with pebbles!!

Cordially,

Your Cochon!

P.-S. I would have adviced the smoke bomb, but it is not everyone that have as much magic skill as me...  http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/cochon's-lair-(wizard-challenge-inside!)*we-also-accept-alchemist!*(poll-inside)/msg795195/#msg795195 (http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/cochon's-lair-(wizard-challenge-inside!)*we-also-accept-alchemist!*(poll-inside)/msg795195/#msg795195)
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Osiris on January 05, 2014, 04:26:01 pm
Wait until shielder gets really close. jump and throw down. pointblank hs over shield and win!
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Lars on January 05, 2014, 04:32:07 pm

Imo the "trick" to be more accurate is in  having a high PT level, i found that throwing weapons fly much faster and straighter with high PT. If you want to be more accurate, imo is  better to have high pt, rather than having lower PT but  with more wpf in throwing.  About 1 month ago i made a STF character with 10 pt, i was amazed by the flying speed of the stuff i was throwing(Jarids), it was much easier to hit enemies at mid-long range and also moving targets. 

Imo jarids with 7 PT are quite accurate and fly pretty fast(damage is quite good too),  even 5PT ( the requirement to use them) is not bad, but imo 7PT is better and you can still use a decent body armor.  Nvm, i'm not sure anymore about that

If you plan to make a build with low wpf in melee, I would suggest to put your wpf in polearm and use  throwing lance as melee weapon, it's one of  the fastest polearm(102 speed rating), same stats of the shortened spear, but the stab of the throwing lance  deals 1 more pierce damage than the shortened spear
 
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: pepejul on January 05, 2014, 04:33:15 pm
Thank you all....
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Corsair831 on January 06, 2014, 02:34:23 am
throw as fast as possible, try not to hit allies, and pray to the gods of throwing :D

if you miss, er, melee? :D
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Johammeth on January 06, 2014, 03:05:00 am
I've been playing my 18/18 shielder/thrower, and it is a blast at level 30.

Chopping someone down with a heavy throwing axe, then WACHONGGGGing it into a fleeing archer's back is awesome.
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Sari on January 06, 2014, 03:07:45 am
Quote from: Johammeth on January 06, 2014, 03:05:00 am
I've been playing my 18/18 shielder/thrower, and it is a blast at level 30.

Chopping someone down with a heavy throwing axe, then WACHONGGGGing it into a fleeing archer's back is awesome.

Oh, so it's you that looks like Xeen.
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Johammeth on January 06, 2014, 03:11:59 am
Quote from: Sari on January 06, 2014, 03:07:45 am
Oh, so it's you that looks like Xeen.

Yeah, I'm "Chara."

I've been petitioning for a namechange (Throwhammeth) for 2 days now but the name gods are angry with me.
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Sari on January 06, 2014, 03:22:56 am
Quote from: Johammeth on January 06, 2014, 03:11:59 am
Yeah, I'm "Chara."

I've been petitioning for a namechange (Throwhammeth) for 2 days now but the name gods are angry with me.

That's almost a full namechange so the "name gods" won't allow it. You'll have to wait to change it when you retire.
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Johammeth on January 06, 2014, 03:23:45 am
Ahh, well that explains it then. Cheers!
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Macbeth3 on January 06, 2014, 02:47:11 pm
Quote from: pepejul on January 05, 2014, 03:12:56 pm
I TH mates but never reach ennemies....

Aim for Friendlies... Hit Enemies? = Profit?!
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on January 06, 2014, 02:48:51 pm
Try to throw your shit at places where you can pick them up later on the round (if it doesn't hit)
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: pepejul on January 08, 2014, 02:39:46 pm
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WHat is the best choice for my points ?......
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Ronin on January 08, 2014, 02:46:00 pm
ironflesh+shield

or

points to attribute for extra stats.
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: F i n on January 08, 2014, 06:28:44 pm
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WHat is the best choice for my points ?......

Convert. 15/21, +1 wm and athl.
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: pepejul on January 08, 2014, 06:43:32 pm
convert ? But I have 8 points to convert  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: F i n on January 08, 2014, 06:52:16 pm
Quote from: pepejul on January 08, 2014, 06:43:32 pm
convert ? But I have 8 points to convert  :mrgreen:

Jup. 3 times converting = 3 more Attribute points = 6 less Skillpoints = 15/22 (and 2 skillpoints left)
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: pepejul on January 08, 2014, 07:19:47 pm
good !  :lol:
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Spurdospera on January 08, 2014, 07:36:09 pm
Quote from: pepejul on January 08, 2014, 02:39:46 pm
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I´d put 6points to riding and 3 to HA and rest to IF... :P
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Ronin on January 08, 2014, 07:39:10 pm
Quote from: Spurdospera on January 08, 2014, 07:36:09 pm
I´d put 6points to riding and 3 to HA and rest to IF... :P
That makes 9 points without Ironflesh, are you drunk? :)
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Tovi on January 08, 2014, 07:41:36 pm
My secret is to play as an average shielder (102 wpf) and to carry 2 big throwing lances (120 wpf). As they are powerfull, I need wpf only to wear decent armor.
I fight as shielder/hoplite against most opponents and I throw my lances against 2h/poles and cavs, or sometime against a running my old friend archer.
At  paper/scissor game I can win in any situation.
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: pepejul on January 08, 2014, 08:29:16 pm
sounds good....  :wink:
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Spurdospera on January 08, 2014, 08:50:23 pm
Quote from: Ronin on January 08, 2014, 07:39:10 pm
That makes 9 points without Ironflesh, are you drunk? :)
If you´d look at picture carefully, you´d notice that he has 1attribute point to use. convert that for 2 skill points.
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: pepejul on January 08, 2014, 09:26:04 pm
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so true ! But I hate horses...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: pepejul on January 08, 2014, 09:48:54 pm
I think I will shield  this one....  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: pepejul on January 08, 2014, 10:10:16 pm
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I hope I did good =)
Title: Re: Throwing secret
Post by: Macbeth3 on January 08, 2014, 10:12:18 pm
Hey, Shield thrower is nice. Gives you some defensive capabilities against HA/HX, so they'll have to either try to bump you, wich gives you the chance to just throw stuff at them or their horses. *Meow* :3

Thrown-weapons are just super against horses in general. But it's the ranged ones you'll have to look out for.