RPing is fun and kinky and all, but if you're not calling people my old friends it isn't really that entertaining.
For the sake of everyone reading this I really hope that Larry doesn't come in here and post about what he's currently doing to your messenger boy.
"Do these nerds think they're dwarves or something?"
I don't know, does that nerd think he is a cheetah or something
WFA: 3 fiefs 17 members.
CC: 8 fiefs 46 members.
So I guess you guys are done looking for challenging fights and somewhat equal matches ever since FCC pushed your shit back in? And just when Raven was up for nicest clan in NA too. Real pity.
WFA: 3 fiefs 17 members.
CC: 8 fiefs 46 members.
So I guess you guys are done looking for challenging fights and somewhat equal matches ever since FCC pushed your shit back in? And just when Raven was up for nicest clan in NA too. Real pity.
Aren't you with the GOBBLINS? Who are literally at war with the same group of people with even more members and fiefs? Also, the Ravens have pretty much nothing to do with this war, it's Derpington, Tretter and then like all of Dracul up here just trying to get a new place to call home.
Also, the Ravens have pretty much nothing to do with this war, it's Derpington, Tretter and then like all of Dracul up here just trying to get a new place to call home.
No Artyem, I am not with the Gobblins. As you so rightly pointed out the other day I am with the least nice clan in cRPG, The Holy Order of the Knights of Saint Peter. Please at least sling accurate shit next time.(click to show/hide)
I'm not trying to 'sling shit', I was under the impression you were working with the GOBBLINS on strat, my apologies for the mistake.
But whatever man, your opinion is your opinion, in my own I don't see it as being very extreme. I'm pretty sure every large faction has at one point or another declared war on a much smaller faction. How large was Chevalier when TKoV declared war on them all that time ago? How large was FIDLGB when FCC wiped them? How many smaller factions has the GOBBLIN KING consumed?
Regardless, Tretter wanted to #yolo somebody with his army and the Frisians decided to aid us with Derpington's army. The Ravens offered support, but I figured we may as well give it a shot on our own.
And just when Raven was up for nicest clan in NA too. Real pity.
A new place to call home
Yes, having more fiefs than us is a reason to look for a NEW place to call HOME...
if you are part of the CC, the CC fiefs are your home, bitch to raven about not getting rights or something. Secede or something, but attacking one's home for "a new home" if you have a home is illogical.
1 of two things will happen
1: (CENTRAL CONFEDERACY) Will declare peace with you
2: (FCC, GOBBLINS, TKOV, HOC, OCCITAN, HOSPITALLER, CHAOS, REMNANT, MB) Gain Dishonorable scum, Removal of Tyrant, Conquest, Vassalize, Cleanse the Heresy, Insult, Illogical Rule, Fallen from Heaven Casus Belli on CC
Sorry that we declared war on somebody in a game about war, how terribly rude of us.
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Declaring war on somebody in a war game is not the issue here.
1- I was in wal-mart when I heard of the possibility that we were about to be attacked by CC. By the time I had peddled my bicycle back to my apartment you had already attacked the two fiefs meaning that I had no chance to take out gold or troop excess which means the entire situation for me is rather screwed up. When we moved on Ander's fief (as a fief-less faction) we gave him a day to respond and up to 3 days to withdraw if I recall.
2- We were quite happy with being in one practically "un-winnable" war (gobblins). What would a Tolkien inspired clan be if not faced against impossible odds (and goblins besides)? This attack is frowned upon because CC is now robbing of the chance to take the fight to our true nemesis.
3- As you said, it was only days ago that we were playing mandolin jigs in your ts and having a great time. I had just started building friendships with Jack1, Ingleram, and HappyPhantom has been a long time DTV hero with me. As Sparvico said, you guys seem to be a pretty cool bunch, so I am still befuddled that we should be attacked by you guys (and all those times I went to Sandersson to make sure he was ok with the WFA merc distribution between CC and FCC. LoL)
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any wars declared are to keep the game from becoming static.
Since we have not had any diplomatic relations with the WFA in the past, I don't see anything sleazy about this war other than the "attacking a smaller faction faux pas." We are not breaking any treaties, nonaggression or otherwise, and have never lead you to believe that there was a possibility of any form of diplomatic relations between us prior to declaring war .
This is all really very simple.
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So I've only read like the first five posts but I have to post the following:
SPARVICUNT SHUT UP. YOU HAVE A CASE OF AUTISMANDERS' SYNDROME: HYPER-CRITICIZING THE STRATEGUS ACTIONS OF OTHERS WHILE CONTRIBUTING FUCK ALL YOURSELF. PLEASE STOP. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK. YOU MAY RESUME SPEAKING ONCE YOU ACTUALLY FUCKING DO SOMETHING.
EDIT: Saw he came to this conclusion himself, disregard my post.
You will have to excuse Finnian, he's just feeling frustrated. He's put a lot of time an effort into building a strat faction from nothing only to have it stomped on by the big-kids in the playground. Yes, Crpg is about having battles and fun, but thats hard if you get stomped before you can build up the resources to have glorious xp slaughter-fests. When you are small clan farming your own troops and doing your own trade runs without the aid of gear-bugs or a larger player base, you put a lot of heart into what you create.
That said, declaring war on us makes sense. CC has superior odds and resources, Sungetche Castle is an important strategic position and is a great stepping stone for further expansion against CC's enemies. I understand how proxy-wars and strategic maneuvering work. We just happen to be the Belgium that stands between you and France. Although, we feel a bit more like Finland vs. Soviet Union.
Who cares if it is fair? Well, because we all want to have fun on the game. But it seems like mercs tend to sign up for who they think will win. I have no problem fighting a superior faction 10 times our size, but I'd at least like to have enough of a decent roster to make it an entertaining battle! Can you blame anyone for wanting a fun battle? Isn't that why we all play this game?
Anyways, enough talking. Odds be damned, we will fight. See you on the field.
You will have to excuse Finnian, he's just feeling frustrated. He's put a lot of time an effort into building a strat faction from nothing only to have it stomped on by the big-kids in the playground. Yes, Crpg is about having battles and fun, but thats hard if you get stomped before you can build up the resources to have glorious xp slaughter-fests. When you are small clan farming your own troops and doing your own trade runs without the aid of gear-bugs or a larger player base, you put a lot of heart into what you create.
That said, declaring war on us makes sense. CC has superior odds and resources, Sungetche Castle is an important strategic position and is a great stepping stone for further expansion against CC's enemies. I understand how proxy-wars and strategic maneuvering work. We just happen to be the Belgium that stands between you and France. Although, we feel a bit more like Finland vs. Soviet Union.
Who cares if it is fair? Well, because we all want to have fun on the game. But it seems like mercs tend to sign up for who they think will win. I have no problem fighting a superior faction 10 times our size, but I'd at least like to have enough of a decent roster to make it an entertaining battle! Can you blame anyone for wanting a fun battle? Isn't that why we all play this game?
Anyways, enough talking. Odds be damned, we will fight. See you on the field.
I'm flattered by that comparison to Germany, yet the Finnish part of me is horribly offended by being referred to as the Soviet Union.
Aside from that, you're mostly right with your analysis, but considering that Strategus is likely to come to an end sometime in the following month, I don't really see much of an opportunity to invade France.
well, maybe not in this iteration, that is.
Sandy said,and I agree, that we will do our best to even out the rosters if that becomes an issue. We want a fair and enjoyable war as much as anyone.
FUK YOU ARYTEM I CAN"T PLAY MY ROME 2 CAMPAIGN NOW CAUSE YOU FUKS ATTACKED US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont see how strat diplomacy effects this, I would still gladly hangout with any wfa guy or other past "enemies" that wanted to. Strat is not personal, any wars declared are to keep the game from becoming static.
Since we have not had any diplomatic relations with the WFA in the past, I don't see anything sleazy about this war other than the "attacking a smaller faction faux pas." We are not breaking any treaties, nonaggression or otherwise, and have never lead you to believe that there was a possibility of any form of diplomatic relations between us prior to declaring war . Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I hope we all will avoid taking this so personally and just enjoy the coming war and xp.
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Inb4 the real shit slinging starts
Arytem, I did not mean to insinuate any political/ideological similarities, I was speaking from more of a purely strategic viewpoint.
Maybe I will have to do something about this Cuntfederacy running around hitting the weak and helpless.
Human society is built around little more than taking advantage of others.
When you were sitting in middle school and someone at your table had something you wanted, what did you do?
Maybe you asked them politely for it, or bribed or bartered with them. Maybe you stole it while they were off in the milk line. Perhaps you lied to them or threatened them with a thrashing.
Weirdly enough, I remember in third grade when someone had a food item that some other kid wanted, they'd just straight spit on the shit and be like "lol are you gonna eat that now?"
Even odder, nobody got their asses kicked doing this. Eventually the kids realized once they got all their food, they could just spit on each item as a preventative measure. Almost like an elementary version of the Cold War.
Goblins helping Tolkien fans? What?
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Anyway WFA...............
I think we have made it pretty clear that we have no problems with you guys on a personal level.
I get that what we are doing is a dick move from your standpoint. I'm sure we would feel the same way in your shoes.
However, if you expect anything less from this community, much less this world entirely, then you are naive.
Human society is built around little more than taking advantage of others.
When you were sitting in middle school and someone at your table had something you wanted, what did you do?
Maybe you asked them politely for it, or bribed or bartered with them. Maybe you stole it while they were off in the milk line. Perhaps you lied to them or threatened them with a thrashing.
Sure some of those options look better on the "scale of morality" that mankind pretends to abide by, but at the end of the day you took or at least tried to take advantage of someone for your own benefit.
I'm going to punch you in the virtual face and take your pixels.
I could do this a thousand other ways, but I fancy this way due to its simplicity.
I'm giving you the opportunity to stand up, fight back, and get some XP out of it.
If that makes me evil than so be it. I bid you to come and try to slay me like the dragon you think I am.
Prove to me that you are warriors.
I remember in second grade we had this kid named John. We was infamous around the school for being incredibly violent.
Then there was this other kid named Andy who acted like a dinosaur all the time.
One day Andy brought a PB&J for lunch. John pulled out his lunch, which I believe was chili in tupperware and a large jar full of Cheez-its.
John decided he wanted the PB&J, walked over to Andy who was sitting on the floor and said "Fuck you dinosaur" (I'm not making this up), lifted the Cheez-its jar over his head and slammed it into Andy's skull.
John took the PB&J out of this totally stunned kid's hands, but before he could eat his prize, the teacher grabbed him and took him to the principal.
He wasn't expelled because of anger issues, but he was suspended for like a whole month.
TL;DR- WFA, we're Andy the dinosaur. CC, you're John and you slammed a large glass jar full of Cheez-its into our unsuspecting skull.
Couldn't afford the private school that kept out the 99%, huh?
Implying I'm wrong.
Please tell me you are friends with Andy the Dinosaur. He seems like he'd be an awesome friend.
Good fight guys, too bad you didn't have enough gear for all those tickets, it would've been fun to fight it out with all of them.
Human society is built around little more than taking advantage of others.
When you were sitting in middle school and someone at your table had something you wanted, what did you do?
Maybe you asked them politely for it, or bribed or bartered with them. Maybe you stole it while they were off in the milk line. Perhaps you lied to them or threatened them with a thrashing.
So obviously based on your anecdote you are a plebeian
tl;dr, I was a privileged white kid and you are a peasant
Implying I'm implying that you're implying.
I desperately hope for the sake of the human race that you are just trying to make some sort of joke.
If I could facepalm any harder I would be splitting atoms across my forehead right now.
Lead your men into battle
On behalf of the followers of Mork the goat god I kindly request that you silence your tongue, lest it be cut out for your heathen words.
"The Dragoni of Valahia, our Clan-Brothers, march in the north for glory and conquest. Let us sacrifice nine thralls in the name of Odin, the All-Father, for their continued success!" shouted Chieftain Turboflex from astride his iconic wooden throne in Narra. "Weep for the enemy, living or dead, who cross paths with Larry the Defiler or better yet weep for their pained arses!" he continued.
The men in the Great Hall let up a loud cheer and laughter for their brothers in Dracul. They knew some of their brothers would fall in that frozen, blood soaked land but they knew they would all die well.
On behalf of the followers of Mork the goat god I kindly request that you silence your tongue, lest it be cut out for your heathen words.
Looked and Sounded like some good fights wish I couldve been there, but no I have to be puking my brains out all the time. Thanks Sickness.Didn't miss the extra arrows in my skull. Got enough of those as it was.
Didn't miss the extra arrows in my skull. Got enough of those as it was.
I have to say that you guys had a shit ton of gaychers in that castle attack. Every second there was another friend down because of a pew pew. The best part for me was when I got on those walls though. Archers sure are squishy.
Come on relit leave the rp. Lets go back to the old folks home now
"The Dragoni of Valahia, our Clan-Brothers, march in the north for glory and conquest. Let us sacrifice nine thralls in the name of Odin, the All-Father, for their continued success!" shouted Chieftain Turboflex from astride his iconic wooden throne in Narra. "Weep for the enemy, living or dead, who cross paths with Larry the Defiler or better yet weep for their pained arses!" he continued.
The men in the Great Hall let up a loud cheer and laughter for their brothers in Dracul. They knew some of their brothers would fall in that frozen, blood soaked land but they knew they would all die well.
Come on relit leave the rp. Lets go back to the old folks home now