Sandy I almost feel like you were banned by partyboy for slurs too but I could be totally wrong
also unban Mike already, no point in keeping people banned who aren't complete dicks
I just got kesh'd! This is hilarious. You just proved that this is a personal thing bringing in a history of shit. Do you even understand why I had immunity on Nditions? A teamspeak server having nothing to do with my ban record which you decide to bring into this fight? What if i payed for the server for a month or 2? What if i was helping bulldog through a tough time in his life? What if i was the official DJ for those crazy europeans and they didnt want to be bothered unbanning me because of minor bullshit. The thing is people like me, i think that gets to you greatly.
EVERYONE knows that the ban you gave me was horse shit, you even know it. Your friends all agree. Everyone on our teamspeak knows the situation including you. Everyone believes that you made this personal and dthat the ban was stupid.
And dont you fucking bring in me being too poor, that is a personal thing that i told to fucking people i trusted. I am offended but i feel that now you have put me in a position to defend my poverty, who do you think you are?see:
Too poor to buy a new cd key.
you want to know my justification for being poor? In may my house got foreclosed because of medical injuries my father couldnt work, but he isnt eligible for disabilities. So they couldnt pay the bills. Fuck you canary, i AM too poor, every paycheck i had went to my parents so that i could help them get outa fucking debt you piece of shit. You know what just happened to me? I was in a god damn train accident, i almost fucking died ...
and really all i want to do is play the fucking game, before you went so ungodly far out of your way to ban me there wasnt a complaint, because i havent been trying to get banned.
Just saying, dont know mike at all, but this is the only community I've been in that doesn't insta perm ban after 2 or 3 bans. If he has fucked up 20 times then he should just get a new CD key if he really still wants to play.
I've never met Mike before, unless he goes by an actual gamer name in world other than Mike. I was entirely on his side until he posted in response to Canary's message. Hearing his kiddish crybaby reaction to Canary's post and willingness to cuss and accuse instead of using common sense as to why Canary mentioned him being poor..
Keep him banned.
To clear up some misinformation, he does not actually have 20 bans on his record. No one has that many. Roughly 10-11 bans have been issued to Mike.
EDIT: On NA official that is.
but having the type of scum that smoothrich is support him is a terrible blow to what little credibility he had left.
You aren't seriously implying that Smoothrich should not have his admin re-instated immediately(click to show/hide)
I don't know Mike all that well. I think I've heard him talk while in MB prior to strat fights but honestly that isn't the point. Yes, Mike has 10 to 11 bans on his record. Yes, Mike continued to do petty infractions of the rules of the server. But that is the exact thing: he has been committing petty crimes and has received extended bans over his game history as punishment. Lets leave the permabans for folks who do more than simply TK. I say y'all give Mike a two month ban or something from the date of his infraction and slowly increase that as he continues his lewd and mischievous behavior.
I believe in second chances, but after being banned over 10 times you simply shouldn't be unbanned. I was in the team speak channel when he was banned to be honest he tried to weasel a way out of it. I respect Cannary for dealing with this in the relative polite way he has and as well on teamspeak Cannary was very what would be called polite with dealing with him whining over ts. Mike should not be unbanned even with the dwindling community there is a point where you should not get second chances.
P.S. Sorry for any bad grammar did this from my phone.
Are you saying being passive-aggressive and evasive is the mature way to handle things?I hate Ildist. He is scum. I can safely say that a certain admin in chaos has watched Ildist tk me and done nothing about it even though it was completely 100% intentional (along with me asking to get him banned only to be told that "they thought we were joking around". Fuck jokes, this game is serious shit). On this specific case regarding Mike, well, you're exactly right. He's the same way, and I'd categorize him with ricky and allers too while we're at it. He's a fun guy to shoot the shit with, but a detriment to the team when he goes on his rampages. The evidence on this ban however is extremely iffy so I'd give him another chance in this regard even though it's quite clear he'll do it again anyways.
I don't really know Mike very well, but it sounds like the only thing he did wrong was not be in Canary's clan, because his behavior sounds exactly like Ildist. Just for the record, I enjoy Ildist's company immensely, even if he is TKing me, because I can take a joke.
Krez core, you disappoint me. You used to at least have some what of a sense of humor, but anymore all you do is post negative shit and join the band wagon with everyone else.
Canary, of all people, whether right or wrong in this specific case, has the hardest job out of any NA admin and all he gets is shit on by plebs. This entire community makes more ban threads than any I have ever seen and all over dumb shit like TW's and TK's ALL THE TIME! Look how vindictive you all are and, sorry Anders, but your most recent thread TWO FUCKING WEEKS OLD, to get some poor sod banned because of something he did to you that hurt your feelings. I start to question why I even play this mod when shit like stupid ban threads occur I feel like throwing in the towel. It's FREE people, you should just be happy it exists for free and you get the privilege to play it.
Back on topic:
I talked to Mike yesterday morning in TS about him getting unbanned and the way he went about doing it is all wrong. He shouldn't have cursed the head admin out, what's that going to get you? Nothing, it's just going to make you (A) look like an internet tough guy(Grow up) and (B) give you no shot in hell at getting unbanned because you clearly haven't learned a god damn thing about not being a shit lord and you just proved it. He understands now that he did, but it's this kind of rash behavior that has gotten him banned from this free mod on numerous occasions. There has to be a point, if you're all going to want justice anyway, that this shit has to stop. Is it 10 bans, is it 20? In my opinion if you're going to drop the hammer and you have been banned 9 times already, 10 should be the limit and enjoy buying a new CD key if you want to keep playing this FREE mod. On the other hand, do away with bans altogether and see how much fun you have then. I can only imagine the tears that will flow because of the amount they do already.
It doesn't matter how many bans it is. Canary has recently taken to padding my ban record with short bans for end of round TKs. So even I'm probably approaching permaban territory although I am not a generally problematic player. Number of bans means nothing when the bans come from someone who has a grudge against you. Don't you think that is a problem? I mean, seriously I have a 1 hour ban and a 5 minute ban, but they will count as real bans, because they do not show duration. And to add to the list of people to throw under the bus: Cyranule generally never gets banned as well as Rohypnol, because certain admins have eboners. The simple fact is adminning is not done consistently, evenly or fairly. If you don't believe that, you are a rube. Sorry Rubes, no offense.
Is it that hard to follow the rules of a free mod if you know what they are? We all know TK'ing is generally against the rules, as is team wounding (people get butthurt about that stuff all the time, just scroll down through this ban request section). I do agree adminning needs to be done more consistently and there should be a 10 and out rule. I mean come on, 10 bans. You've touched the fire ten times and still don't realize it burns you.
I mean, seriously I have a 1 hour ban and a 5 minute ban, but they will count as real bans, because they do not show duration.
I will step in here and let you know that they absolutely do show durations.
I always take into account how long the ban was posted for and the unban date if the key was unbanned early.
I'll also write a note in the log referring to exactly what happened for the player to receive the ban and, if they're unbanned early, I'll write a note about that too.
To illustrate, here's a ban I posted with the name removed:(click to show/hide)
Of course, I don't want to be presumptuous, but most admins will take into account a number of factors when determining a warning, ban, ban length, etc.
The duration of previous bans is one additional thing we take into account.
But rohy and cy are good players :twisted:
Honestly the only reason that these rules and bans are in place is because of all of the try hard internet olympics neck-beards that make up this horrible community that are so fixated on patting their k/d's.
Getting tk'd every once in a while may be a bit rage inducing sure, but it's a fucking video game. If you care about getting tk'd in a game so much that you would want anyone doing it to be incapable of ever playing it again then you need to grow up. That's like demanding a death penalty for someone because they consistently throw toilet paper at your house.
...too much to ask. Be a kind fellow canary, i know we have our differences but hear me out. And to the rest of the community i thank you all for weighing in on the subject of my return, the support and the hate...
"It's not an easy journey, to get to a place where you forgive people. But it is such a powerful place, because it frees you." - Tyler Perry, African American