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Title: FALLOUT 4 IS A LIE
Post by: pingpong on November 21, 2013, 08:26:26 am
 :cry:
http://thesurvivor2299.com/fuckyou.php
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: zagibu on November 21, 2013, 08:58:41 am
Gamebryo V? You know why NV was better than the original? Because it wasn't developed by Bethesda.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Leesin on November 21, 2013, 09:10:17 am
Personally I liked 3 more than NV, NV just didnt feel like anything had been improved or changed that much, and I found the story and map boring. So yeah it just basically felt like I was playing Fallout 3 with a new map and story I didnt like, that being said Fallout 3 wasnt exactly amazing either. Fallout 4? Yeah I wont expect this to be anything amazing.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: LordBerenger on November 21, 2013, 10:03:33 am
FUCK ME SIDEWAYS AND CALL ME A BITCH! Love Fallout series (including oldies except Tactics). Although NV was way better than F3 i'm still excited.


http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/18/bethesda-trademarks-fallout-4-in-europe
^That link made me scared though at first. Imagine Fallout 4 in Yurop...ewwww
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Vovka on November 21, 2013, 11:34:29 am
IN DECEMBER 2020
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Mala on November 21, 2013, 11:40:38 am
Personally I liked 3 more than NV, NV just didnt feel like anything had been improved or changed that much, and I found the story and map boring. So yeah it just basically felt like I was playing Fallout 3 with a new map and story I didnt like, that being said Fallout 3 wasnt exactly amazing either. Fallout 4? Yeah I wont expect this to be anything amazing.

Well, the story of 3 was really rubbish.
You have looked for your father who left you to die in a vault. While doing so you could spend month to solve sidequests but the lead to your father was still hot? Yeah sure.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Leesin on November 21, 2013, 12:35:30 pm
Well, the story of 3 was really rubbish.
You have looked for your father who left you to die in a vault. While doing so you could spend month to solve sidequests but the lead to your father was still hot? Yeah sure.

Yeah it was shit but had funny parts in, I also liked the map, where as I disliked both the NV story and map, it didnt have any noteworthy improvements over FO3 either, thus it didn't keep me entertained for long. That being said I dont play the these style of sandbox games for the storyline either so I couldn't give a shit what story Fallout 4 has, my main concern is the gameplay, map and a multitude of other smaller but important features.

If the game were like FO 1 and 2 I'd be more inclined to care about story, but for some reason during the transistion from overhead turn based gameplay to FPSRPG my shits given about storyline massively reduce.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on November 21, 2013, 12:49:38 pm
This guy is my favourite youtuber and he brings up an interesting point in worldbuilding between Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas

Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 21, 2013, 12:51:21 pm
NO NO NO

Fallout 3 is a taint upon the Great Fallout series

Dear god bethesda will create another pile of shit and call it good....


NO

Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Overdriven on November 21, 2013, 02:13:43 pm
I've played New Vegas for about 5 hours and am bored. I much preferred 3.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 22, 2013, 12:09:40 am
only bundle of stickss and console fanboys think Fallout 3 is a good game
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Banok on November 22, 2013, 12:25:41 am
Personally I liked 3 more than NV, NV just didnt feel like anything had been improved or changed that much, and I found the story and map boring. So yeah it just basically felt like I was playing Fallout 3 with a new map and story I didnt like, that being said Fallout 3 wasnt exactly amazing either. Fallout 4? Yeah I wont expect this to be anything amazing.
I agree NV felt like a mod or DLC. At least a couple of the new features NV brought I already had in FO3 with mods. I'm guessing thats why NV was generally better recieved than I felt it should have been, because most people are console peasants.

people say story is better but really? tranquility lane? Oasis? FO3 has memorable locations/quests. NV does have a better main quest since you have options and such. but NV map itself is quite bland. bethesda games always have better sidequests than mainquests, which isn't at all a bad thing.

I hope FO4 is being made by bethesda studios.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 22, 2013, 12:53:50 am
Fallout 3 wasnt even a Fallout game

it was fucking oblivion with guns


Fallout is about interacting and impacting a rebuilt society (95% of Fallout 1&2 takes place in some sort of town)

Fallout 3 was just, LETS GO EXPLORE AND GET DER LWOOOOT OMG RADIATION SOREAAL

Fallout lets (even encourages) the player to be a evil douche, or a complete retard, or someone who shot every single person on sight and gave 0 fucks

Fallout 3: 80% of the characters were "essential" and couldnt be harmed, doesnt let you go full retard and kill everyone, and being a douche made little to no impact on anything, the entire fucking game alludes and encourages you to be a goddamn "whiteknight-vault-messiah"

Fallout made even the slightest choice and dialogue completely change the course of the game, (from locking entire areas, to making towns hostile, to completely changing a event in the story, to closeing off entire quest chains)

Fallout 3: your actions impacted nothing, (remember, interaction and impacting is what fallout is about)

Fallout was more about a post-post-nuclear setting

Fallout 3: even 200 years after the war, and this place still loooks like the bomb dropped yesterday

Fallout 3: had a completely shit storyline ripped from the first 2 games

Fallout 3 Shot the canon to hell

Fallout 3 was shit

Fallout 3 is shit

Fallout 3 will forever be shit
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: zagibu on November 22, 2013, 01:19:37 am
What I hated most about FO3 was that the second half of the game consisted exclusively of supermutants. It was the Oblivion problem with replacing mobs everywhere with high level mobs according to the player's level (which is, btw., one of the dumbest ideas that has ever made it into a game).

NV was better in that regard, and I also liked the equipment better, because it was more wild west style, and less emopunk style.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Mala on November 22, 2013, 01:48:57 am
Not to mention the crap ending before it was fixed with the dlc.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Lennu on November 22, 2013, 02:23:45 am
Identify the main plot. Never touch it again. Enjoy the game.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Leesin on November 22, 2013, 08:58:59 am
Identify the main plot. Never touch it again. Enjoy the game.

This. Had more fun doing whatever the fuck I wanted in Fallout 3 than doing the NV main quest. So I got bored of NV quickly because it was really nothing new, map and story aside. Mods allowed me to add whatever I wanted so I already burned myself out on fallout 3. If NV had been considerably improved or different I might have been more inclined to play it.

As it stands neither FO3 or NV are what I'd call 'good', perhaps fun and different but theyre bland in the long run and only mods saved them.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: LordBerenger on November 22, 2013, 12:08:54 pm
This. Had more fun doing whatever the fuck I wanted in Fallout 3 than doing the NV main quest. So I got bored of NV quickly because it was really nothing new, map and story aside. Mods allowed me to add whatever I wanted so I already burned myself out on fallout 3. If NV had been considerably improved or different I might have been more inclined to play it.

As it stands neither FO3 or NV are what I'd call 'good', perhaps fun and different but theyre bland in the long run and only mods saved them.

Nah...mods sucked with the exception of Animated Prostitution and UI mods (make em like F1nF2)
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Leesin on November 22, 2013, 01:04:36 pm
Nah...mods sucked with the exception of Animated Prostitution and UI mods (make em like F1nF2)

The overhaul mods are the only reason to play either of those games, you cant turn a turd into gold but you can decorate it and spray some aftershave on it.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 22, 2013, 01:46:51 pm
I only started truly to have fun with Fallout 3 after applying higher damage mod.

Headshotting someone 5 times only to reduce their health to 1/2 was not much of fun.

EDIT: And they should get better engine, because gamebryo is just plain shit.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Prpavi on November 22, 2013, 04:09:53 pm
Played them both on PC and Xbox and I must say I had a better time on the console they were both buggy as hell on PC. Enjoyed NV more, I like new things new settings, expanding Fallout to wesr coast is a nice way to see first hand the situation on differnet sides of the coast and to experience the different impacts on the people and culture in different places. Somebody said Fallout in Europe would be awfull but done right I'd love to see what happened on that side of the world.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: zagibu on November 22, 2013, 04:09:58 pm
I only started truly to have fun with Fallout 3 after applying higher damage mod.

Headshotting someone 5 times only to reduce their health to 1/2 was not much of fun.

EDIT: And they should get better engine, because gamebryo is just plain shit.

They can't get a new engine. They ARE Gamebryo. I doubt they could make anything of value at all if you took it away from them.


Somebody said Fallout in Europe would be awfull but done right I'd love to see what happened on that side of the world.

Not somebody. Berenger. He doesn't miss an opportunity to project his American superiority, ever.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 22, 2013, 04:11:54 pm
They can't get a new engine. They ARE Gamebryo. I doubt they could make anything of value at all if you took it away from them.

Oh crap...

Well, at least it is still mostly shooter, so the engine limitations will not be as apparent as they were in oblivion.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: LordBerenger on November 22, 2013, 05:09:31 pm
Somebody said Fallout in Europe would be awfull but done right I'd love to see what happened on that side of the world.

Radiation Rain every day ingame. More grey and apocalyptic than F1,F2,F3 and NV. And also Super Mutant Nationalistic Skinheads lol
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Angantyr on November 22, 2013, 05:35:47 pm
FNV contra F3, rlysrsly?

FNV has much, much better storyline, even if not looking at personal taste but standard evaluation of what makes a good story,
real adult themes (not only the token curseword as in F3),
really interesting characters, show me just one from F3 (just you don't say three dog..) and I'll give you a list of FNV favourites,
many, many times the amount of dialogue which also branches now and isn't written by an eighth grader,
is a real westcoast Fallout universe game following the timeline of the earlier games in the series (except tactics), keenly aware of its predecessors,
has a pretty great companion system with companion questlines,
has this whole morally ambiguous faction story arc with faction loyalty mechanics,
like F1 and F2 fun and engaging quests, deep and thoughtful, intelligent and creative (thinking of the briliant DLC main quests here mainly which can really form your character or even like a great book be food for thought for yourself),
real super mutants,
ironsights,
fps-like ballistic system with real ranged shootouts (not the facehug spray it was in F3),
balanced perks (more or less but overwhelmingly so compared to F3 otherwise play Sawyer's final patch),
functional melee,
weapon mods,
creative factions which have evolved along the Fallout universe timeline following historical principles (Sawyer is a trained historian),
the most player choice driven story line with the greatest amount of variables possible influencing each other in the most mind-boggling complexity I've seen since F2 and even surpassing it, how the quest choices play together in as incredibly many different variations, how a small choice there might have enormous consequences at another time if for this alone FNV should be famous (if you don't want to play the game but are interested i rpgs in general read just how many ways there are just to deal with Benny and how this influences the rest of the game, comparable only to Dragon Age 1 on the whole regency issue), I've had 12 different characters in FNV, five all moral variants of the same guy...,
has a real, thriving world full of hundreds and hundreds of NPC's, both named and generic, unlike the barren world of F3 which had next to no end game and where you could hardly kill off any npc's as it would just leave it even more empty,
hardcore mode,
the original fallout series musical score,
real deathclaws,
humour, I actually laugh a lot when playing FNV, can't for the life of me remember one funny moment in F3 and I played it for years, if you have memory of one such please remind me,
numerous skill and perk affected dialogue options as has always been a Fallout mainstay,
a lot more quests and even more sidequests a lot of which have neither quest marker nor appear in your notebook,
etc.


(click to show/hide)

To really experience FNV you have to dig deep into it, the real grittiness, humour, references and culture critique is hidden under sheets and under the bed, in notes and diaries, in sidequests .. And you should definitely try the expansions.

But again, if F3 was your first Fallout game you probably had the unfamiliarity with FNV that old Fallout gamers had with F3, but looking at pure mechanics... I get it if you preferred the urban environment of F3, but really what most people argue as strengths pro F3 are rehashed quests from F1 and 2, usually with a real poor execution. Plus sci-fi/post-apocalyptic Western universes are pretty damn neat, if you decide giving it a try again try to wear that cowboy hat.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Teeth on November 22, 2013, 06:02:37 pm
creative factions which have evolved along the Fallout universe timeline following historical principles (Sawyer is a trained historian),
The generic Roman faction which looked exactly like the generic Roman faction from Skyrim really radiates creativity.

That said I completely agree with you that NV was a much better game in pretty much any aspect. One thing that really made an impression on me with Fallout 3 which I didn't have as much with NV is that moment you get out of that vault. The wasteland had such atmosphere I just felt like exploring. NV's world wasn't as wastelandish as the East Coast shit hole and it felt a little less adventurous and more civilized. That is a matter of taste though, as soon as you actually did a good bit of exploring the world was pretty boring and unconvincing and the atmosphere slowly melted away.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Angantyr on November 22, 2013, 06:35:41 pm
I'll be first to admit that though I really like the idea - following the trend of the wasteland becoming more civilized and centralized and the decline of the Khans, Jackals and Vipers - of a raider faction based on the Romans, a veritable army of raiders with the old world ghosts always so important in the series, and with Caesar being an old Follower with knowledge of the Roman Legions, the execution of the faction is still the weakest in the game. As I said, a caricature. I try to imagine it as a 70s pulp, post-apocalyptic cartoon, like many of the other stylistic choices, the game being launched with the 'All Roads' comic and all. The roman gear made from old football stuff and such I don't know.. Mad Max references abound but I'd prefer it if Caesar had had them construct mailles instead..

Generic Roman faction in Skyrim is the Third Empire of Tamriel, they're supposed to look like that  :P

But yeah, two games with Roman-esque arguably antagonist faction with the same publisher, though it is not produced by the same studio and the idea for the faction has existed as canonical lore (if you deem the Fallout Bible somewhat canonical) since the Van Buren days.


I'll also say I prefer the old barren wasteland you refer to the most, F2 where everything was just scorched desert, visually F3 had nice environments, a shame it was a bad RPG.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Leesin on November 22, 2013, 06:59:20 pm
I think I played a different FNV than you did Agantyr because to me it was the same old shit as FO3 ( or worst considering I only played FO3 with decent mods ) except it was on a shitter map. Neither games are great games and neither are great RPGs, but NV didn't bring enough change to the table to make me feel like I wanted to keep playing it after a run through.

Fingers crossed Fallout 4 is a far better game than either of those 2 or I doubt I'll get much playtime out of it either.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Angantyr on November 22, 2013, 07:00:35 pm
Can we at least agree that F2 is the best in the series?  :wink:
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Leesin on November 22, 2013, 07:03:13 pm
There is no argument in that, it's a fact lol.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 22, 2013, 07:03:32 pm
The generic Roman faction which looked exactly like the generic Roman faction from Skyrim really radiates creativity.


The legion from FNV was orginially planned to be in van buren(go look it up) long before bethesda even made oblivion



They can't get a new engine. They ARE Gamebryo. I doubt they could make anything of value at all if you took it away from them.


Creation engine for skyrim


Somebody said Fallout in Europe would be awfull but done right I'd love to see what happened on that side of the world.

In Fallout, Europe was a war-torn wasteland long before the bombs dropped in 2077

Sawyer had a dream game he always wanted to make called Fallout: Resource wars that was suppose to take place in pre-Great war(before the bombs dropped) Europe.


That being said, I don't think it would be a very good game, one of the things that make Fallout special is its 1950s American Sci-Fi theme
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: zagibu on November 22, 2013, 10:08:33 pm
Creation engine for skyrim

http://peter.corrosivetruths.org/2011/12/21/is-skyrims-creation-just-gamebryo/
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: LordBerenger on November 22, 2013, 10:15:26 pm
Can we at least agree that F2 is the best in the series?  :wink:

Prefer the storyline of F1 more (even though i'm a big Enclave lover).
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: SixThumbs on November 23, 2013, 12:35:02 am
Fallout 3 was fun for the time but the introduction and character creation sequence are the only parts that really stand out for me. I remember a lot of areas with razed concrete buildings and trawling through the subways. New Vegas was similar but I enjoyed it more because attributes and skill selections in dialogue trees seemed more prevalent and opened up a few more choices for solving an issue rather then just getting to chose how you're going to kill something. The faction relations and multiple endings I enjoyed because it allowed at least some semblance of role-playing, perspective and impact on the game world other then your motivation being that daddy ran away and you have to go find him, the background more or less let you fill in the blanks. That isn't to say a lot of it wasn't half-baked but at least playing a role was attempted it seemed, maybe I don't necessarily want to find the guy who shot me or chase after a dead-beat dad who basically caused a micro society of people to kill themselves.

On a side note they need to do something about open-world games where the story demands urgency to a situation but then you turn around and go for collectables for several in game days. I think Morrowind handled this fairly, a few times during the main story line the quest giver actually tells you to go off and do other things and it's woven into the story in a meaningful way.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: pingpong on November 23, 2013, 12:36:27 am
Can we at least agree that F2 is the best in the series?  :wink:
yeah i loved the gritty dark humor in F2, only funny character in F3 imo was the commiedestroying over the top patriotic robot, well worth doing the mainquest just to hear these  :lol:
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Banok on November 23, 2013, 01:02:41 am
The NV vs FO3 will never end. but even if NV is better, obsidian don't deserve full credit for basically remaking and improving a existing game. its not that hard to take a good game and improve it. fo3 was a new engine, new gameplay etc.

its like people saying pokemon silver is better than pokemon blue. Yes I suppose it is improved, but its basically the exact same formula, I always feel that a game should be appreciated for its originality at the time of release. ocarina of time is still a 10/10 because it was released in 1998, if it was released today I would give it a lower score.

NV came out 2 years after FO3, by then it wasn't that original or interesting.

Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 23, 2013, 01:21:43 am
The NV vs FO3 will never end. but even if NV is better, obsidian don't deserve full credit for basically remaking and improving a existing game. its not that hard to take a good game and improve it.

Blame bethesda for forcing obsidian to use gamebyro, a engine they never had experience with before
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: zagibu on November 23, 2013, 03:17:53 am
The NV vs FO3 will never end. but even if NV is better, obsidian don't deserve full credit for basically remaking and improving a existing game. its not that hard to take a good game and improve it. fo3 was a new engine, new gameplay etc.

its like people saying pokemon silver is better than pokemon blue. Yes I suppose it is improved, but its basically the exact same formula, I always feel that a game should be appreciated for its originality at the time of release. ocarina of time is still a 10/10 because it was released in 1998, if it was released today I would give it a lower score.

NV came out 2 years after FO3, by then it wasn't that original or interesting.

Fallout 3 was not a new engine. It was improved Oblivion engine (basically Gamebryo with custom parts made by Bethesda).

The reason why old Fallout players usually prefer NV over FO3 is because it was made by Obsidian, which consists mostly of former Black Isle Employees, who made Fallout 2.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: cmp on November 23, 2013, 03:42:36 am
obsidian don't deserve full credit for basically remaking and improving a existing game. its not that hard to take a good game and improve it.

Yeah, it's not hard at all to create a big world with lots of characters, items and quests.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Banok on November 24, 2013, 01:15:40 am
Yeah, it's not hard at all to create a big world with lots of characters, items and quests.

Yes, its much harder to not start from scratch and mostly re-use existing items/assets/combat
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: cmp on November 24, 2013, 01:42:19 am
Way to miss the point. If A is easier then B, does it mean A is easy?
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 25, 2013, 04:30:49 pm
Way to miss the point. If A is easier then B, does it mean A is easy?

Hey if we could all logic we'd be programmers and developers as well.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Jarold on November 27, 2013, 04:37:27 am
The Fallout 3 vs Fallout : New Vegas debate will go on forever. I prefer Fallout 3 and my friend prefers New Vegas it's all purely based on your preferences.

Could we talk about Fallout 4 now please, like what we want to see in it!
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on November 27, 2013, 10:06:27 am
The Fallout 3 vs Fallout : New Vegas debate will go on forever. I prefer Fallout 3 and my friend prefers New Vegas it's all purely based on your preferences.

Could we talk about Fallout 4 now please, like what we want to see in it!

Hopefully something closer to Fallout: New Vegas over Fallout 3.  :wink:
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: LordBerenger on November 27, 2013, 10:41:59 am
As long as they avoid the East Coast i'm happy.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Lennu on November 27, 2013, 12:22:23 pm
Lol, this thread made me download New Vegas, and so far I've enjoyed it quite a lot.
But where are all the ghouls in NV?  :lol:
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 27, 2013, 12:49:06 pm
Lol, this thread made me download New Vegas, and so far I've enjoyed it quite a lot.
But where are all the ghouls in NV?  :lol:
Vault 33
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Angantyr on November 27, 2013, 03:46:59 pm
Vault 34
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Lennu on November 28, 2013, 03:14:44 pm
Found them  :rolleyes:

I have to say that the main plot looks kinda stupid. It pretty much introduces me to all factions and sends me to do their quests. I explored the world till I was lvl 20 and just now decided to go forwards with the main plot. Turned out most of the cool stuff I've found so far I would have run into anyway by just doing the main storyline. The freedom of exploring stuff kinda feels useless now  :rolleyes:

Edit: Okay, gotta take that back. The game gives me 100% freedom to decide how the game ends, that's why it kicks me to all directions.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Angantyr on November 29, 2013, 03:39:23 pm
Don't be afraid of starting the DLCs before progressing too far in the main quests, they are arguably the best part of the game.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 29, 2013, 06:46:13 pm
Who even cares about fallout 4? 1,2 and tactics are on sale in a bundle now on steam. Didnt even know they were on steam, guessing they have been added recently.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Jarold on November 30, 2013, 06:08:56 am
Hopefully something closer to Fallout: New Vegas over Fallout 3.  :wink:

That was pretty funny actually. XD
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Kafein on November 30, 2013, 01:15:40 pm
There's a reason people called it "The Elder Scrolls : Fallout 3" even the mechanics are the same (explore wasteland with a big ass compass that tells you where to go, enter dungeon, clear dungeon, loot dungeon, go to city, sell stuff, repeat)
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 02, 2013, 06:26:19 pm
In NV there's a nuclear fall out area that I went to earlier in the game with ghouls there, and they destroyed my face no matter what I did.  Just ended up avoiding the area (it was in the South/South East part of the map if I recall)
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Angantyr on December 03, 2013, 12:40:49 pm
Yeah, that's Searchlight, there's plenty of other places than Vault 34 to find ghouls, most of the Mojave border areas contain both ghouls, super mutants and deathjaws I mean deathclaws. Also, a lot of them in the DLCs.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Kafein on December 04, 2013, 01:39:49 am
I have a ghoul follower
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: pingpong on December 07, 2013, 02:36:35 pm

http://thesurvivor2299.com/

http://thesurvivor2299.com/fuckyou.php

yeah so apparently it was just a lame hoax, fucking attentionwhoring nerds!!
 Sry for getting you guys fooled too ,i  really had no clue, well im going to take every " major announcement" with a grain of salt from now on :|



Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Leesin on December 07, 2013, 02:48:26 pm
I fucking lol'd, I never really read the OP properly or checked out your links so I just assumed it was an official website announcement or something and we'd be seeing a Fallout 4 soon, guess not  :lol:. Funny though.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: bilwit on December 07, 2013, 09:27:02 pm
 :(
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Angantyr on December 07, 2013, 09:27:15 pm
Bethesda bought the lincense to make a series of games in the Fallout franchise; F4 is in the making official announcements yet or not.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: zagibu on December 07, 2013, 10:56:49 pm
It will be a free to play massively multiplayer online third person shooter rpg pve game.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: cmp on December 07, 2013, 11:30:26 pm
It will be a free to play massively multiplayer online third person shooter rpg pve game.

With microtransactions.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Ikarus on December 07, 2013, 11:55:16 pm
I....I liked Fallout3 :(
I still listen to the OST from time to time...
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 08, 2013, 01:49:37 am
I....I liked Fallout3 :(

GTFO
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Oberyn on December 08, 2013, 03:14:03 pm
Hoax, turns out it was fake. And I'll echo others here in that New Vegas > Fallout 3. I hope Obsidian is in charge of any eventual Fallout sequel, and not Bethesda tbh.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on December 08, 2013, 03:45:32 pm
Fallout New Vegas was a better game but I played 3 a lot more because DC was far more interesting to explore.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS A LIE
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on April 30, 2014, 01:00:42 am
Loved Fallout 3 and Vegas. Don't care if they are not following 1&2 story or whatever. Tons of great mods - I had everyone naked in no time! Bold vaginas and permanent erections everywhere. Killed some random women to check out how their privates looked like. No regrets - time well spent! Add Fallout 3 slavery overhaul (http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/9497/?), and you can pursue a lucrative slave trading career! Just to spice things up - crucifixion improvements (http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45315/?). Check out this mod's description:
 
"... For me, the most disappointing part of New Vegas was how they handled the crucifixions. Crucifixions were cruel, humiliating, and (in most cases) an atrocity. Also, I noticed in the G.E.C.K. that many of the Fort's empty crosses were capable of having someone on them while Nipton and Cottonwood Cove had people assigned to crosses that never showed up. ..."*
 
* lol

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Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS A LIE
Post by: Ikarus on April 30, 2014, 01:55:23 am
Loved Fallout 3 and Vegas. Don't care if they are not following 1&2 story or whatever. Tons of great mods - I had everyone naked in no time! Bold vaginas and permanent erections everywhere. Killed some random women to check out how their privates looked like. No regrets - time well spent! Add Fallout 3 slavery overhaul (http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/9497/?), and you can pursue a lucrative slave trading career! Just to spice things up - crucifixion improvements (http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45315/?). Check out this mod's description:
 
"... For me, the most disappointing part of New Vegas was how they handled the crucifixions. Crucifixions were cruel, humiliating, and (in most cases) an atrocity. Also, I noticed in the G.E.C.K. that many of the Fort's empty crosses were capable of having someone on them while Nipton and Cottonwood Cove had people assigned to crosses that never showed up. ..."*
 
* lol

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admit it, you only looked for a good reason to post that pic  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS A LIE
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on April 30, 2014, 08:08:14 am
admit it, you only looked for a good reason to post that pic  :mrgreen:

Guilty as charged! :D

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Although I enjoyed Fallout both on PS and PC :) Nude mod is a must!
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS COMING!!
Post by: Kafein on April 30, 2014, 10:19:57 am
Hoax, turns out it was fake. And I'll echo others here in that New Vegas > Fallout 3. I hope Obsidian is in charge of any eventual Fallout sequel, and not Bethesda tbh.

The people at Obsidian never achieved an open world engine like Gamebryo though. They are much better game designers than Beth studios, but lacking in the technology department.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS A LIE
Post by: bredeus on April 30, 2014, 10:37:22 pm
Meanwhile you can try Fonline Reloaded. Nice multiplayer fallout 2.
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS A LIE
Post by: Clockworkkiller on April 30, 2014, 10:53:47 pm
Meanwhile you can try Fonline Reloaded. Nice multiplayer fallout 2.

i actually tried it, still have it installed on my PC.

unforgiving as fuck though, dare i say, as tough as Dark souls

if anyone wants to try it out, ill play with ya

Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS A LIE
Post by: Angantyr on May 01, 2014, 11:43:57 am
Wtf, how does that work, is combat still turn based?

edit: playing right now, this is amazing
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS A LIE
Post by: bredeus on May 08, 2014, 11:38:15 pm
Combat is turn based (if you switch it on) default is real time which is pretty confusing at the start. I saw massive multi battles. Crafting and factions are just cool. Map is huge and game have a full loot system which makes it pretty hard at the begining. There is a tent (house) system also and lots of freedom :)
Look at full map:
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Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS A LIE
Post by: Xant on May 09, 2014, 01:21:18 am
Someone wanna describe the game a bit further? PvP, leveling up, combat, permadeath..?
Title: Re: FALLOUT 4 IS A LIE
Post by: bredeus on May 10, 2014, 08:45:46 am
You are right, sorry. Here you go:
http://forum.melee.org/and-all-the-other-things-floating-around-out-there/fonline-reloaded/new/#new