I think they went too far with this.
2h is simply unbearable now.
Get this: Shields received no buff, 1H was were nerfed, 2H is spammier than ever.
Thanks to the fact that 2H can hack at you even faster than before, wielding shield is practically a paid suicide.
Before you even lower your shield after blocking an attack, there is already another one coming with your name on it.
If you only have 100wpf, you have like 9-10PS or you have pretty bad build problems if you're pure melee. Guys that have over 220 wpf can't wear any good armor and will die in 2 hits.
but is that because they have 230 wpf and you may only have 100
If you only have 100wpf, you have like 9-10PS or you have pretty bad build problems if you're pure melee. Guys that have over 220 wpf can't wear any good armor and will die in 2 hits.
but they can literally keep spamming and you cant swing back
Weren't you crawling around with a strength build, long axe, and heavy armor on NA1 yesterday?
1h was nerfed? Erm, no. It's still OP. With my lvl 28 18/18 shielder alt with no IF and 6 PS and 155 wpf I have no problems fighting any other class. Also, 200 wpf? Those guys will die in one ranged shot or 1-2 hits from you, if you can't kill agi-whores, it's your own fault.
They wont because: 200wpf guys that go pure melee with 2H, they probably have agility so high that nobody is able to shoot them, especially when they are on move.
And yes 1H was nerfed, at least for me. I am refering to the likes of LEE. Otherwise, no it wasnt.
The problem is that time that it takes to lower your shield is still same, and that stats of shield are too same, means that you are going to be under obvious disadvantage.
If you want to rebalance the WPF distribution, you should also consider the impacts that it will have.
I actually disagree with you Warlord, but we may just use different tactics.
I find the best way to deal with a agi-ninja is to use a shield and a fast 1h. I use a Heavy Heater Shield (not the fastest by far) and I find that super-agi doods usually have lower PS, so I don't really have to worry about them breaking my shield. So I let them spam away until A) an opening is created, B) I can shield bash them and make an opening, C) a teammate comes behind them and whacks them.
I will concede two points though. First, it's only been a day since the patch so maybe I haven't faced the same types of builds as you. Also, the super agi builds ARE difficult to fight. Whenever I encounter another sonic-speedo with an estoc, I give a heavy sigh and march in, shield raised...
:)
P.S: On my shielder alt I am playing with a non-loomed steel shield, probably one of the slowest shields in the game and an italian sword. I have no problems fighting any other class as I said, so it isn't shields or 1h that is to slow or "UP".
no? I'm eu
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/free-loompoint/msg751398/#msg751398
This post and others in your post history would seem to suggest that you're the same Brock that was formerly in Teutonic, who is an NA player that I saw just yesterday racking up a respectable number of kills by one-shotting most of the people who got in range of him with his axe.
learn chambers
Does any of you actually read what other people write? brockssn asked what build I use on my 1h alt, which I said before, so ofc I quoted myself ... omg, I'm out of this
Chambering 200wpf spammy longsworder is a suicide, and chambering is a technique that can absolutely not be relied upon.well... I can't see anything else to say but "get use to new situation or don't play".
EDIT: Double posted, sorry.
Chambering 200wpf spammy longsworder is a suicide, and chambering is a technique that can absolutely not be relied upon.
EDIT: Double posted, sorry.
Maybe it's time to quit cRPG for me. My build is broken, I can't even more be a 1h/thrower +shield. I've built this character for long time and I don't want to start again with a single shielder or a pure thrower. Too boring.
people are pushing 240 2h wpf
but they can literally keep spamming and you cant swing back
200wpf guys that go pure melee with 2H, they probably have agility so high that nobody is able to shoot them, especially when they are on move.PS: now I see that red lightsabers don't come out of nothing.
Throwing lances I can understand as a problem. 21 strength and 7 PT (I'm sure you are getting PS too if you want to level polearm skill) is a big investment and keeps you from getting very high levels of WM. 1H/throwing with axes is a little easier to stat out since you aren't forced into high str/skill investments by the item. 15 or 18 strength with full PT/PS leaves lots of room to pump your agility.
It would be nice if increasing throwing wpf gave you a bonus to 1H and polearm, like the melee skills share now. Just don't make it stack with the melee one, otherwise there'd probably some goofy build with points into throwing wpf but no power throw. And that's dumb.
So many myths here... PS: now I see that red lightsabers don't come out of nothing.
Red lightsabers are given to people who dont get why the fuck should 2H be faster than any other weapon type and cut everythingyou are new over here,
in half while the user bashes his head constantly on keyboard and still tops the goddamn board.
People say that shields are for no skill noobs that cannot block, but seriously, since when was the last time that 2H required careful calculation of range and speed? When was the last time that 2H users did anything else than facehugged everyone (or backpedaled) and spammed LMB at angles where 1H would harmlessly bounce off?
I dont want to disrespect 2H players, many of them are great and skillful players, I am just tired of those fucks who dash at me and circle jerk around me while their attacks, regardless how awfully they are landed, hit me for full damage.
Combat is not anymore about who is better at combat, it is now who gets behind the other ones back first while hitting LMB like madman.
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TRUTH!why?
It's just ironic coming from you