Two words: Heibai and Knitler.
The End
I fear none, fear is for 2handers onlydont worry next pach I will go 1h pole hybrid so you will see 1 2h my old friend less
dont worry next pach I will go 1h pole hybrid so you will see 1 2h my old friend lessdoes that mean you are brave now? or will you just take a pikestabsidesword and become even more gay?
Kinda silly to put awlpike and the rest of the other 2d's on the same sack. Pointless poll this way.Nope, awlpike, ashwood pike, long awlpike, ranseur, partisan, you name it. All these weapons are ridiculously strong. Save the English Bill and Swiss Halberd perhaps which are still amazing, but their low stab damage makes them slower damage dealers than the others, as the polearm stab is so much better than the polearm overhead. Especially lately my trusty English Bill seems to suffer from incredibly poor hit detection on overheads.
Nope, awlpike, ashwood pike, long awlpike, ranseur, partisan, you name it. All these weapons are ridiculously strong. Save the English Bill and Swiss Halberd perhaps which are still amazing, but their low stab damage makes them slower damage dealers than the others, as the polearm stab is so much better than the polearm overhead. Especially lately my trusty English Bill seems to suffer from incredibly poor hit detection on overheads.
Hoplites who drop their shield get the best of both worlds.
I feel that a talented hoplite can outplay a talented 2d polearm user most times. It really depends upon the playstyle of the Hoplite I suppose. A lot of Hoplites are guilty of turtling up, but the good ones are the ones that aren't afraid to get into the mix, play aggressive, and switch targets frequently. A good short-range spear (such as The Spear) surrounded by enemies can do a lot of quick damage.
There are only a handful of good Hoplites in NA and I would take a few of those guys up against any master 2D polearm user any day and place my bet on the Hoplites. That's just me though.
One additional thing; The chances of a Hoplite making it to combat vs. a 2D Polearm user without taking ranged damage largely favors the Hoplite. So, ina real combat situationNA_1, the Hoplite is more versatile and withstanding than an exposed 2D Polearmer.
I usually don't see awlpikes on NA or on strategus.
why wouldn't he post that him self lol ? he's not muted
why wouldn't he post that him self lol ? he's not mutedHe's a shy little boy with a tender soul who wanted me to post this for him so they would minus me instead of him.
Knitler told me to post these two screens and text for him:(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)
It's not about the weapon, but the player behind it.
no, it's definitely about the weapon. i'm sorry but knitler's not bad, but he's not that good that he gets those scores. abusing a combination of instantaneous, very highly damaging stabs, arcing long-lasting kicks, and full plate armour, does not a good player make.Not my words.
4,37 ratio as 2d polearm90 KDD as hoplite
10 ratio as hoplite
nerf hoplite
EDIT: Funny how falka minuses it, even when it's something I posted for someone else.
wanted me to post this for him so they would minus me instead of him
10 ratio as hoplitePics or it didn't happen.
Knitler told me to post these two screens and text for him:(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)
It's not about the weapon, but the player behind it.
Ah, he was referring to those pictures, thought he was talking about his own k/d with the classes. Basing any balance argument on two strat battles is highly problematic of course. First of all a Strat battle is completely unrepresentative for pub gameplay. Second of all these two battles were clearly very different. With the first one being a clear rape, with everyone having a very high k/d relatively. Also one is a siege defense and the other a field battle.