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Title: Payday 2
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 16, 2013, 09:30:21 pm
Anyone playing this?

I got the first one not long after it came out and was really disappointed there was no ability to use any sort of stealth to get through a mission.  Once you started the mission the alarms go off and the police (endless hordes of them) show up and it's basically a point and click shooting game at this point. 

The 2nd one looks like you can employ stealth (keeping hostages subdued, jamming security systems, etc), wondering who's played this and their opinions on it?  Does it end up being the same as the first one where you're essentially just trying to shoot a path to freedom?
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Necrorave on August 16, 2013, 09:39:11 pm
Anyone playing this?

I got the first one not long after it came out and was really disappointed there was no ability to use any sort of stealth to get through a mission.  Once you started the mission the alarms go off and the police (endless hordes of them) show up and it's basically a point and click shooting game at this point.

The first one did have some stealth elements when it came to the police.  They were not obvious and sometimes impossible to notice, but if you take out cameras and the sorts, the police will check each floor separately until they find you.  If you lose them (Almost impossible) they will repeat the process.  You can actually hear them over the chatter clearing the floors I believe.  Not really a way to "Hide" or get away, but it gives you some breathing room sometimes.

Hopefully in the second one they offer more obvious reactions to being stealthy and smart about how you approach the robbery.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 16, 2013, 09:48:18 pm
The first one did have some stealth elements when it came to the police.  They were not obvious and sometimes impossible to notice, but if you take out cameras and the sorts, the police will check each floor separately until they find you.  If you lose them (Almost impossible) they will repeat the process.  You can actually hear them over the chatter clearing the floors I believe.  Not really a way to "Hide" or get away, but it gives you some breathing room sometimes.

Hopefully in the second one they offer more obvious reactions to being stealthy and smart about how you approach the robbery.

Did not realize that.  It sounds like (from the reviews I've read anyways) that they made "stealth" (or at least crowd control and alerting of police) seem like it's more in your control now, rather than just mindlessly shooting anything that moves (like it seemed the first always ended up resorting to, which made me not even think of it as a "heist" type game). 
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Canuck on August 16, 2013, 09:59:48 pm
Never played the first one, but I bought this one the other night on a whim. I've enjoyed it. Been playing it a bit the past couple of days, and I've found it really fucking difficult to actually do the missions the stealthy way. But you can be stealthy, I know from videos and what my friends have told me. You just have to get the right skills first (there's a leveling system with skills and unlock progression) so at first yeah it's just a bunch of shooting. But from what I know it gets better.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Radament on August 16, 2013, 10:23:13 pm
i love the ability to answer to the cop's radio faking his voice.
i love how every mission is not always the same.
skills are all useful

friendly ai is stupid , just shooting and revive while cops ai is pretty tough.

nice game
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Necrorave on August 16, 2013, 10:35:02 pm
i love the ability to answer to the cop's radio faking his voice.
i love how every mission is not always the same.
skills are all useful

friendly ai is stupid , just shooting and revive while cops ai is pretty tough.

nice game

Friendly AI is a lot harder to script and program than hostile AI.  It is also why you will see games where the enemy will hit you perfectly but your AI buddies will shoot walls.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Vodner on August 16, 2013, 10:58:47 pm
... friendly ai is stupid , just shooting and revive while cops ai is pretty tough.
The friendly bots are as dumb as stumps, but they also have infinite ammo and soak far more hits than human players can.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Radament on August 17, 2013, 03:58:24 am
The friendly bots are as dumb as stumps, but they also have infinite ammo and soak far more hits than human players can.
that's why this game must be played with other 3 friends to enjoy it.

oh and  they need to nerf Russian mafia too , they hit very hard in that nightclub.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: AntiBlitz on August 17, 2013, 04:12:16 am
great game, very addicting, nothing like the first one other than the generic gameplay( you rob stuff, tons of cops).  Stealth is actually an option, unlike the first one where the police were insta alerted once you were spotted, in this you have the ability to atleast be spotted and stop the threat before he picks up a radio, or draws on you.

If you play, dear god dont go Enforcer, everyone and their brother is a god damn enforcer.  Im a Technician if you would like to play, let me know.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Rumblood on August 17, 2013, 09:16:51 am
Anyone playing this?

I got the first one not long after it came out and was really disappointed there was no ability to use any sort of stealth to get through a mission.  Once you started the mission the alarms go off and the police (endless hordes of them) show up and it's basically a point and click shooting game at this point. 

The 2nd one looks like you can employ stealth (keeping hostages subdued, jamming security systems, etc), wondering who's played this and their opinions on it?  Does it end up being the same as the first one where you're essentially just trying to shoot a path to freedom?

I've completed the a bank heist with complete stealth, never set off the alarms. We did fire some silenced pistol shots at the necessary guards, zipped them up into body bags and put them into the dumpster. Cleaned out every safe deposit box, which is damn hard, if not nearly impossible to do without stealth, though I have done 90% of them because there were two of us with saws and double ammo bags with extra charges. Simply put, there are 3-4 ways to pull off the various heists as you also have electronics jamming skill sets and explosives. Most people seem to be going Enforcer, then Ghost, followed by Mastermind or a combo of the lower level skills. Send me a steam invite if you want to play.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Shadowren on August 18, 2013, 08:43:43 pm
Just played this yesterday with pappy, AntiBlitz and TommyHu. Amazing game :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Nessaj on August 19, 2013, 11:44:49 am
Fun game and all, but really unfinished. Seems they rushed it quite hard, plenty of bugs and annoyances, tons of unfinished textures:

I find it a tad funny that they'd make a very detailed tattoo on a civilian (a female civilians breast none the less):
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but no one could be arsed to make some better 2D background sprites for the cars in the background:
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Reminds me of Mass Effect 3, if anyone recall the background 2D sprites in that game, we're talking Paint.exe skills level.
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The #1 signature of a rushed game.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Radament on August 19, 2013, 03:39:00 pm
where you got the last image? it scares me quite a bit  :shock:

btw yes it's not polished but the gameplay make you forget about these bugs/glitches , hoping for future updates.

the only thing i hate is the fact you can revive friends behind walls , you can get bags behind walls etc , it's quite ugly to see.

ah and we need more content , the only point that make you grind again is skills , maps becomes boring after 100000th you done it in every possible difficulty.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Nessaj on August 19, 2013, 04:26:09 pm
where you got the last image? it scares me quite a bit  :shock:

The Mass Effect 3 image? Just google for "Mass Effect 3 sprites" -- There's videos on YouTube as well. 90% of the background activity in ME3 was this atrocious, not to mention the animations.

Payday 2 (vs Team Fortress 2) Steam stats:

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Despite all its flaws and shortcomings PD2 is doing great.
I would attribute the success to it simply being a good CO-OP game, plus the sound design for the weapons is exceptional, sadly only the weapons seem to have been given a lot of thought though, there's literally no ambience in the game :/

There's a lack of good CO-OP games for the PC, especially some that would aspire to more than the normal frag'em'all chaos. Borderlands might be a good co-op game but it's too much of a niche game.
Hopefully this will remind studios that there's still good fortunes to make in CO-OP gaming.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Molly on August 19, 2013, 04:35:27 pm
Blands 2 is just awesome  :D
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Nessaj on August 19, 2013, 04:50:02 pm
Blands 2 is just awesome  :D

I never liked it much, not a fan of the art style, cel-shading. Though it works great for some games, such as the newest Call of Juarez game -- great story and single-player game, highly recommendable.

Originally though, Borderlands were supposed to have had a normal art direction:
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/this-is-what-borderlands-was-originally-meant-to-look-like-art-style-inspired-by-short-film-codehunters/ (http://www.dsogaming.com/news/this-is-what-borderlands-was-originally-meant-to-look-like-art-style-inspired-by-short-film-codehunters/)

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Personally I would have liked Borderlands much more if they'd kept the original art direction, but the problem seemingly was that they didn't feel the original look was much different from other games of that time, Fallout among others.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Kafein on August 20, 2013, 10:05:43 am
What made Borderlands 1 stand out and survive was all its quirks, including cel shading.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: rufio on August 20, 2013, 10:24:55 am
got it, still need to reach the fun part thow, got power lvld by this dictator guy known as cooties, and his evil sidekick jhash, the whole experience was like being a mule, lifting and throwing bags of money, gold and jewelry, it was somewhat near  traumatic.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Molly on August 20, 2013, 10:31:56 am
Thank god they went with cel-shading. Those "original artworks" look awful  :shock:
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Radament on August 20, 2013, 01:24:42 pm
it was somewhat near  traumatic.

..not if you make a diversive , kill 2 or 3 civilians , you ask a guard where's the bathroom , you pretend to do the mission in stealth mode then you start to firing your primary weapon in the air like the alaaa hu snackbars.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Tennenoth on August 26, 2013, 02:54:04 pm
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Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Prpavi on August 26, 2013, 03:16:13 pm
I also played the first one and was troubled by it becoming a shoot fest where you would kill 200 officers and swat just to get away. Glad to see they implemented stealth and other options of finishing the game, certanly adds longevity.

Is the game on Steam Workshop so people can create their own heists? I played through dozens L4D2 user created campaigns, finishing the story 5 times in a row just doesn't do it for me but with user creted content it's a blast to revisit the game.

Also what is a niche game?
 
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: rufio on August 26, 2013, 09:25:58 pm
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Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Nightmare798 on August 26, 2013, 09:33:44 pm
looks like an average shooter to me...
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Nightmare798 on August 26, 2013, 09:34:40 pm
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WIN!!!
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: rufio on September 01, 2013, 03:13:38 pm
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Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on September 03, 2013, 12:35:59 pm
Level 47 now. Doing only "pro-job very hard" bank heists. Lots of fun. Took 9 mil out of bank yesterday :D Thats almost 500.000 in cash. 
 
Did anyone make more in a single mission?.. THese bank heists usually provide around 300.000 on very hard difficulty..
 
Great PvE shooter btw, i can see myself playing this until GTA5 comes out :)
 
steam id: Skinkins
if you want to rob a bank - let me know! banks only
 
P.S.
if we fail, i can get upset and start calling you names on the mic, so don't bother, if you can't handle being called a worthless-piece-of-noob-ass-good-for-nothing-whore :D I usually keep my mic off, but sometimes the urge is too hard to resist. just my way of letting steam out, i cool down very quickly!
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Rumblood on September 03, 2013, 11:46:19 pm
Level 47 now. Doing only "pro-job very hard" bank heists. Lots of fun. Took 9 mil out of bank yesterday :D Thats almost 500.000 in cash. 
 
Did anyone make more in a single mission?.. THese bank heists usually provide around 300.000 on very hard difficulty..
 
Great PvE shooter btw, i can see myself playing this until GTA5 comes out :)
 
steam id: Skinkins
if you want to rob a bank - let me know! banks only
 
P.S.
if we fail, i can get upset and start calling you names on the mic, so don't bother, if you can't handle being called a worthless-piece-of-noob-ass-good-for-nothing-whore :D I usually keep my mic off, but sometimes the urge is too hard to resist. just my way of letting steam out, i cool down very quickly!

Yep, we opened every bank vault, got 14 bags of loot and misc cash items. Ended up with 600k in cash take home. We stealthed the whole thing and used saws to open the vaults.

@Rufio - a niche game is every game every made. But it usually refers to one that caters to a smaller crowd or a specific subset of a genre.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on September 12, 2013, 07:41:29 pm
Look how pro i am :)

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Bank cleared in 13 min, alone. Two critical perks to pull this off - 1st Tier Smooth Talker and 2nd Tier Cleaner. Any speed bonus helps.


Hopefully, the video-quality will improve..
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 02, 2014, 03:22:54 am
few more levels till i hit infamous 2, would love for some chumps to heist with, im inspire+dodge build, but specced to be able to use the ICTV also.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on December 03, 2014, 12:04:07 am
Haven't really played it of much lately.

But i'd be up for a game from time to time
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: LordBerenger on December 03, 2014, 05:50:21 am
2 many low levels being annoying and going straight for Overkill/Deathwish heists (most difficult heists) and failing miserably and not knowing what to do.


Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Overdriven on December 03, 2014, 02:09:57 pm
The bit that pisses me off about Payday is that every fucking update it like 2gb. And for what? Most of the time it's not even new content. It's a massive game for what it actually is.

We only play it when there's a group of 4 of us on though. Couldn't imagine playing with randoms. Only ever completed a couple of missions the stealth route though.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: BASNAK on December 03, 2014, 02:12:26 pm
The bit that pisses me off about Payday is that every fucking update it like 2gb. And for what? Most of the time it's not even new content. It's a massive game for what it actually is.

We only play it when there's a group of 4 of us on though. Couldn't imagine playing with randoms. Only ever completed a couple of missions the stealth route though.

I used to think the same of randoms. Until I tried playing with them. They can be really good, much better than any of my friends.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Polobow on December 03, 2014, 03:08:51 pm
I used to think the same of randoms. Until I tried playing with them. They can be really good, much better than any of my friends.

Insulting friends is more fun though.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: LordBerenger on December 03, 2014, 05:14:40 pm
The bit that pisses me off about Payday is that every fucking update it like 2gb. And for what? Most of the time it's not even new content. It's a massive game for what it actually is.

We only play it when there's a group of 4 of us on though. Couldn't imagine playing with randoms. Only ever completed a couple of missions the stealth route though.

Yeah but playing with friends usually only last 1 hour or two untill someone has to go. Like 1 lvl per session. If u don't play with pubbies you will be one of those weak (wut am i supposed 2 do?) low levels.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Andswaru on December 03, 2014, 05:18:12 pm
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Ncromancien on December 04, 2014, 08:05:44 am
2 many low levels being annoying and going straight for Overkill/Deathwish heists (most difficult heists) and failing miserably and not knowing what to do.

It can be annoying, but to counter that, you just have to put a level limit up to 70-80 on your lobby, will be much better then ;)
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Taser on December 04, 2014, 08:38:20 am
2 many low levels being annoying and going straight for Overkill/Deathwish heists (most difficult heists) and failing miserably and not knowing what to do.

This is me.

Completely.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Kafein on December 04, 2014, 02:21:09 pm
Yeah but playing with friends usually only last 1 hour or two untill someone has to go. Like 1 lvl per session. If u don't play with pubbies you will be one of those weak (wut am i supposed 2 do?) low levels.

1 level per 2 hours? Are you doing only normal heists? At almost 70 I often get 1 level per heist.

I also definitely had total morons at rank 80+ but it's true people start to know how the game works by that level.

I feel this game could do a much better job at letting you play with less than 4 humans. As it stands you can only do some stealthy things alone, or only normal difficulty which makes things incredibly grindy.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Ncromancien on December 04, 2014, 05:57:20 pm
1 level per 2 hours? Are you doing only normal heists? At almost 70 I often get 1 level per heist.

I also definitely had total morons at rank 80+ but it's true people start to know how the game works by that level.

I feel this game could do a much better job at letting you play with less than 4 humans. As it stands you can only do some stealthy things alone, or only normal difficulty which makes things incredibly grindy.

Hum, well I need to admit that all the stealthable missions are really doable alone, and some easy loud missions are doable with 2 guys and 2 AI playing with you in very hard or overkill. I'm doing that with one of my friend, and if you have some good fighting build, it can actually work, but I agree that doing this with a randomer that you can't communicate with almost impossible.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: LordBerenger on December 05, 2014, 12:14:42 pm
How to make missions easy with randomers.


Step 1: Make sure they're over level 70

Step 2: If stealthing scream in caps in chat ''STAY IN THE FUCKING VAN'' or ''BE CAREFUL'' and ''FOLLOW MY LEAD FUCKERS!''

Step 3: In loadout make sure everyone got equipment that benefits the team

Step 4: If necessary write in all caps when going loud when you need a medkit/ammo etc...

Step 5: When going loud get good gear yourself that you can carry the team with if needed.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Ncromancien on December 05, 2014, 05:49:17 pm
How to make missions easy with randomers.


Step 1: Make sure they're over level 70

Step 2: If stealthing scream in caps in chat ''STAY IN THE FUCKING VAN'' or ''BE CAREFUL'' and ''FOLLOW MY LEAD FUCKERS!''

Step 3: In loadout make sure everyone got equipment that benefits the team

Step 4: If necessary write in all caps when going loud when you need a medkit/ammo etc...

Step 5: When going loud get good gear yourself that you can carry the team with if needed.

Step 6 : Make sure at least one of the crew have the " inspire " skill.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 05, 2014, 08:22:25 pm
Step 0. Be good at the game and the rest of this list won't matter
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: LordBerenger on December 05, 2014, 09:29:10 pm
Step 6 : Make sure at least one of the crew have the " inspire " skill.

Get the fakk upppp get the fakk upppp get the fakk uppppp
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Ncromancien on December 05, 2014, 09:43:28 pm
Get the fakk upppp get the fakk upppp get the fakk uppppp

I love when you do that 5 times, not working and then : " Hoxton has been taken into custody " :D
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: LordBerenger on December 06, 2014, 03:24:18 am
That's why its better to go Techforcer with Iron Man Aced and C4s ready to use as well as fully upgraded Armored Skill deck.

Maximum armor and no need to QQ for help. Unless you play on DW. Then you dun goofd.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 06, 2014, 03:41:58 am
That's why its better to go Techforcer with Iron Man Aced and C4s ready to use as well as fully upgraded Armored Skill deck.

Maximum armor and no need to QQ for help. Unless you play on DW. Then you dun goofd.

that is the way of the noob my friend.

suit+dodge+rogue deck is where its at. along with a good shotgun/sniper rifle and your favorite pistol backup



i have done DW many time with pubs, a few times where even after botching a stealth attempt. we fought through the Assaults and skulldozers with nothing more than Guns fitted for stealth and useless ECMs. (i myself had a car-4 and a chinmano compact fully modified for stealth, doing damage in the low 20s, semi-auto only, poor accuracy and shit stability. we were able to make it out the bank with all 4 crew alive and all bags  8-)
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: LordBerenger on December 06, 2014, 03:12:57 pm
Tank is the way of the smart one .

2 many stealth kiddies nowadays. And stealth kiddies shouldn't talk about stealth being the pro way (more like easy way) especially since they can (iirc its not patched) get perks to make them be 100% invincible while crouching thanks to fucked up dodge stats with the right perks.

So hard 2 play amirite
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Kafein on December 06, 2014, 03:18:17 pm
I find stealth to be more fun than loud on most missions. Only in some of them do you really have to wait ages or have RNGesus smile to you. The train heist is by far the worst offender. Don't even bother stealthing that.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Ncromancien on December 06, 2014, 03:29:34 pm
I find stealth to be more fun than loud on most missions. Only in some of them do you really have to wait ages or have RNGesus smile to you. The train heist is by far the worst offender. Don't even bother stealthing that.

Since the Deathwish update, stealthing the train heist is barely doable, since they can spot the open wagons, and they are minimum 5 guards. I still think they should release more pure stealth mission like Shadow raid, way too many loud missions compare to Stealthy ones. I still have fun soloing framing frame or Shadow raid, but we need more Stealth missions ! :D
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 06, 2014, 03:56:30 pm
Tank is the way of the smart one .

2 many stealth kiddies nowadays. And stealth kiddies shouldn't talk about stealth being the pro way (more like easy way) especially since they can (iirc its not patched) get perks to make them be 100% invincible while crouching thanks to fucked up dodge stats with the right perks.

So hard 2 play amirite

lol only pussies do stealth, i regularly use dodge on loud missions that has been patched ages ago, max now is 75%


with dodge, i have the speed to get around the map to revive teammates, escape danger or complete objectives. paired with a 50%-75% chance to for shots to be completely harmless
and it is alot harder to use, Standing still, a dodge build only has 25% chance to dodge the bullets, this means that you gotta keep moving or find some cover. way of the pro, not crunching on health+armor to survive.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Kafein on December 06, 2014, 05:34:45 pm
Is it me or the hitman perk tree is really crappy? It's the akimbo one.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Ncromancien on December 06, 2014, 07:33:39 pm
Is it me or the hitman perk tree is really crappy? It's the akimbo one.

Hitman is pretty bad indeed, same as muscle, never used them.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: LordBerenger on December 06, 2014, 07:59:39 pm
lol only pussies do stealth, i regularly use dodge on loud missions that has been patched ages ago, max now is 75%


with dodge, i have the speed to get around the map to revive teammates, escape danger or complete objectives. paired with a 50%-75% chance to for shots to be completely harmless
and it is alot harder to use, Standing still, a dodge build only has 25% chance to dodge the bullets, this means that you gotta keep moving or find some cover. way of the pro, not crunching on health+armor to survive.

Techforcer still number 1.

Maximum Armor and i can blow up doors. Oh and rape ppl with LMGs/Sniper Rifles and if shields come (gg that you aced Iron Man) rape them hard with your spear of freedom which you also got the melee damage upgrade aced for so you can kill every enemy with 1-2 hits with the exception of Dozers, Tazers and Cloakers.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 06, 2014, 11:18:55 pm
Techforcer still number 1.

Maximum Armor and i can blow up doors. Oh and rape ppl with LMGs/Sniper Rifles and if shields come (gg that you aced Iron Man) rape them hard with your spear of freedom which you also got the melee damage upgrade aced for so you can kill every enemy with 1-2 hits with the exception of Dozers, Tazers and Cloakers.

I have the melee damage perk too, don't need to knock down shields when I can run circles around me. Ivan use lmgs and sniper rifles just as well. Counterattack means I can melee kill any cloaker who jumps at me

ECMs can open doors and stun groups of cops


Hitman is pretty bad indeed, same as muscle, never used them.

You underestimate muscle, armorer may help u get across a street just fine. But muscle will carry through a entire heist
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: LordBerenger on December 07, 2014, 04:24:42 am
I have the melee damage perk too, don't need to knock down shields when I can run circles around me. Ivan use lmgs and sniper rifles just as well. Counterattack means I can melee kill any cloaker who jumps at me

ECMs can open doors and stun groups of cops


You underestimate muscle, armorer may help u get across a street just fine. But muscle will carry through a entire heist

Who dafuq is Ivan. And running circles around them in suits. No thx Jeff. Better go Techforcer. Bigger is better. Less isn't more.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Ncromancien on December 07, 2014, 09:08:54 am
I have the melee damage perk too, don't need to knock down shields when I can run circles around me. Ivan use lmgs and sniper rifles just as well. Counterattack means I can melee kill any cloaker who jumps at me

ECMs can open doors and stun groups of cops


You underestimate muscle, armorer may help u get across a street just fine. But muscle will carry through a entire heist

Really ? I just feel that you can heal when you're downed 3 times, so that's why I don't really get the point, when with armor, it will allow you to take more damage in tough situation all the time. I will give it a try today, maybe it's worth it.

And I agree with Clokworkkiller, with dodge build, you can easily pass behind shields, which make the knockdown not useful. Although, it's just different ways to play, and I personnaly like to see several builds at the same time. You just have to play what you prefer :D

I personnaly love Mastermind-Enforcer + Armorer deck, you can tank a lot, deal good damage and shout up people. I think that an organised crew with those 3 builds together would be really strong though.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Pestdoktor on December 07, 2014, 04:34:13 pm
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Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: LordBerenger on December 07, 2014, 07:19:37 pm
Dodge fgt detected
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Algarn on December 12, 2014, 12:24:05 am
Got around 20 hours on game now, level 70. Got two fast questions :

1/ How to get quickly weapon upgrades instead of having masks/colors shit at end of missions.
2/ What kind of perks would you advise for someone who would like to be both discret/fast, and medic/light fighter (armed with modified AK5, and going to buy a good desert eagle as a backup weapon). I find it difficult to win on levels like when you have to free Hoxton, with shitton of ennemies and heavy guys, or when I come in stealth mode, but someone goes full retard and set up the alarm. Muscle, Rogue, or Hitman ?
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 12, 2014, 12:33:56 am
Got around 20 hours on game now, level 70. Got two fast questions :

1/ How to get quickly weapon upgrades instead of having masks/colors shit at end of missions.
2/ What kind of perks would you advise for someone who would like to be both discret/fast, and medic/light fighter (armed with modified AK5, and going to buy a good desert eagle as a backup weapon). I find it difficult to win on levels like when you have to free Hoxton, with shitton of ennemies and heavy guys, or when I come in stealth mode, but someone goes full retard and set up the alarm. Muscle, Rogue, or Hitman ?

1. Get the gage courier dlc, it basically gives you a shitton of free mods, for almost all weapons. Another than that...try solo grinding really easy missions

2. Go mastermind and ace all the pistol perks and inspire. Then spec the rest into ghost and fugitive, go for perks that increase speed and dodge. Or perks that help with stealth. Use rogue deck for max speed.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Algarn on December 12, 2014, 12:36:59 am
I believe 5 € aren't that armful about weapon mods.

And yes,  I did ace all pistol perks/silenced perks I could, without forgetting running/support perks from ghost and fugitive. Will try to paste my current skill tree, but I'm probably going to respec it when I'll reach rank 100.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 12, 2014, 04:21:45 am
I believe 5 € aren't that armful about weapon mods.

And yes,  I did ace all pistol perks/silenced perks I could, without forgetting running/support perks from ghost and fugitive. Will try to paste my current skill tree, but I'm probably going to respec it when I'll reach rank 100.

Use this to show us your build http://pd2skills.com

I'll show u mine when i get back to a computadora
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Clockworkkiller on March 05, 2015, 02:07:52 am



Also TIL there is a Payday movie in the works




also HYPETRAIN
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Richyy on June 16, 2015, 07:52:46 pm
planning to buy it, anyone would like to play?
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: LordBerenger on June 16, 2015, 08:16:52 pm
planning to buy it, anyone would like to play?

Maybe but too many more DLCs to buy that i've missed on. They release DLCs so often too.
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 16, 2015, 09:12:07 pm
i play often, if ya need someone to play with, hit me up

forum name is same as steam ID, but with a trademark at the end, youll see me, should be at top of search results
Title: Re: Payday 2
Post by: Bittersteel on July 20, 2016, 02:09:31 pm
Anyone still playing? Add me on steam and let's get a crew toghether  8-)

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198059582687