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Title: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: njames89 on July 31, 2013, 11:25:58 pm
A group of Draculian knights approached the walls of Yruma seeking a conference with the King and Lords of Acre. King Reinhardt arranged for a small contingent of Crusaders to escort him out to meet with the enemy commanders. It was Artyem of Dracul who had come.

The Dracul were seeking a peace arrangement that would be beneficial to both sides. The siege had been a very bloody one with heavy losses inflicted on both sides. The newly revived Crusaders having had little time to prepare for the siege were becoming exhausted by the battles. The Dracul had no personal hatred for the Crusaders of Acre, they explained. Their war was one of opportunist nature having desired to control a castle for a long period of time. James respected the Dracul for coming forth in an effort to end the bloodshed.

The Crusaders had held fast in the castle for 6 sieges and had proven their worth in combat. The Castle had been battered but not broken. James was very proud of how the Crusaders had fared. Considering many of the men had been blooded in their first combat in the castle.

Artyem and the Dracul offered an unspecified amount of war reparations and a deal was reached that was beneficial for both sides, peace had been achieved. The Crusaders would be allowed safe passage to their new home. Dracul would be given the castle and the siege would be over.

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Also in attendance was Legendary Keshian commander of the Free Companies of Calradia. James had had the pleasure of fighting alongside Kesh many a time and his presence at the meeting was no surprise to him. As the meeting continued a deal was struck that would see the Crusaders join the Free Companies of Calradia. James knew the FCC were a trustworthy group and that their cause was just.

Preparations were being made for the large garrison to makes its way to their new home. Morale among the men was very high as they had been under siege eating rations and forced to stay inside the walls of Yruma for a long time. As he sat in his quarters in Yruma preparing to depart James felt that he would miss the castle as he and his men had bonded and experienced such ruthless bloodshed on its walls. He took heart in knowing that skilled fighters such as the Dracul would steward it now. The combat had been exhilerating and a great experience for all the Crusaders.

In an address to all the Crusaders James spoke "Today we have reached a peace agreement with the Dracul. We will be leaving Yruma with safe passage and joining the Free Companies". The news was met with cheers as the men were eager to leave the confined space of the castle. The siege of Yruma would not soon be forgotten a glorious xp bloodbath it had been.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Artyem on August 01, 2013, 12:08:00 am
The Crusaders had put up a good fight, but word had reached Artyem that they were soon to crack under the pressure.  He knew that the Knights from a distant land known as Acre had a large number of healthy troops left to fight, but he had estimated their gold reserves would be running low.  Would the war end sooner than later?  Was the unnecessary continuation of the bloodshed avoidable?  Perhaps.

Assuming the Crusaders were indeed running low on resources, it was guessed that they would not last much longer in their keep.  Rumors of disease and plague had escaped the walls, a fast spreading death that had supposedly claimed thousands of lives.  Their cavalry was devoted to destroying the attacker's catapults.  Lunging from the walls, and sprinting the rest of the distance, willing to give up their lives for even one shot at a piece of siege equipment.

Both sides grew tired as time went on, it would soon become a matter of will and courage.  Who could put up the longest fight, who had the most expendable power?  Neither party involved wanted to find out, the war had already been bloodier than anyone could have predicted.  An offer was made, plans formed in the event of rejection, differences sorted and acceptances made.

Would this be the end of it all?
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Relit on August 01, 2013, 12:22:22 am
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The Chieftain did not smile as he watched the Crusaders leave, as they marched past thousands of bodies lain in rows, the priests and shamans at work to prepare their bodies for tonight's pyres. Hundreds of horse corpses piled nearby added to the landscape of destruction. Shattered shields and weapons of all kinds lay scattered, waiting to be collected and sent into the fire with the glorious dead. Even the snow had a slight reddish tint.

This war had been about keeping a promise to his peoples stalwart allies, the Dragoni of Valahia. It was not about the slaughter of some hated foe. He stood in the snow watching the procession of men and thought about this for a long time. As the sun set, a lone man approached. It was The Ancient One, Ingleram Isenzahn. He always appeared when dark thoughts were on the mind.

"Was it worth it?", Ingleram began, "What is honor worth to you?"

Without looking, the Chieftain simply said.

"Everything."
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Tojo on August 01, 2013, 12:28:52 am
Tojo scowled as he read the news about the Ravens and Acre. How could the Knights of the Church have given up on such a Holy place as Yruma? The once mighty stronghold of the Holy Guard had been handed to the Pagans once more. Perhaps it was never in God's plans for the castle to be under christian doctrine. Thinking back he could recall his 1st kill on the walls of Yruma, he still remembered the sound of the mans body hitting the ground.

"Time will tell what shall become of this catle" he thought aloud to himself.


Welcome to Agent Orange Crusaders of Acre!!!
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Canary on August 01, 2013, 01:51:27 am
There is a dwindling number of clans not under the LCO umbrella. We can not stand aside and watch one of them get wiped without at least merc support. We could have given them gold troops and gear but because of who you guys are we merc and let the dice fall as they will.

There is a dwindling number of clans not under the Free Companies banner. As we took our stand against unique enemies, they turn to their superior numbers to support them and to avoid conflicts they don't want to deal with. We could have fought several campaigns for longer periods of time against more distinct foes, but each time their colors turn a fiery red-orange. Was it not only natural we all fight against the Free Companies, in the end? And alongside those who would fight them as well?
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Bronto on August 01, 2013, 02:41:36 am
I remember a time not so long ago, when people were up in arms about everyone turning the map red. Now people are turning the map orange and only some people give a shit. Another small faction to farm troops for the FCC, good fight clans of NA. I'm disappointed in Acre but I can't say I didn't see it coming. I already thought they were part of the FCC! The question remains, who will join their ranks next? STAY TUNED!

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Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 01, 2013, 02:54:40 am
I remember a time not so long ago, when people were up in arms about everyone turning the map red. Now people are turning the map orange and only some people give a shit. Another small faction to farm troops for the FCC, good fight clans of NA. I'm disappointed in Acre but I can't say I didn't see it coming. I already thought they were part of the FCC! The question remains, who will join their ranks next? STAY TUNED!

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PROtip:

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Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Bronto on August 01, 2013, 03:02:06 am
PROtip:

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Lol! I'll punch your dick so hard!
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Keshian on August 01, 2013, 03:11:16 am
I remember a time not so long ago, when people were up in arms about everyone turning the map red. Now people are turning the map orange and only some people give a shit. Another small faction to farm troops for the FCC, good fight clans of NA. I'm disappointed in Acre but I can't say I didn't see it coming. I already thought they were part of the FCC! The question remains, who will join their ranks next? STAY TUNED!

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Well I hope you all are enjoying your vassalage to occitan.  Maybe you should actually talk to Acre or HG or Fallen and you would see "Free" companies of calradia actually means what it says - most factions are largely independent doing trade runs and raids, but available to help with rosters and troops and gold from the other small factions making up the FCC so they don't get railroaded by the giant alliance of Occitan, Hospitallers, Lost Legion, Semenstorm, Chaos, FILDGB, Blood, Golden Apple Corps etc. etc.  Those same factions don't even bother declaring war against anyone not in their giant alliance of 80% of the map - I feel bad for aggregate alliance watching 4 factions in the alliance work together to attack them without even 1 declaration of war - just acting on occitan's orders as good vassals because they are a less established new faction thats not a vassal.

Kind of gross watching you guys talk shit while basically copying the garbage that ruined EU, just like occitan copied it from the UIF - lets all kiss each other's asses and carebear because anything else would be too much of a challenge and oh no you might make enemies by actually fighting wars.  Thanks for dirtying up the thread - i have to give props to dracul and raven for being one of the few factions not sucking french cock and being strong enough to stand alone and I respect Acre for their impressive defense where they did an amazing job and i completely understand why they asked to join us - same reason we formed it in the first place - strategus is incredibly difficult for small, unestablished factions and having a group of small factions all working together we can actually accomplish something on strategus even when many members in each faction are inactive.

Thank god we have fought most of you at one time or another
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- NA strat would have been as boring as EU otherwise.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Reinhardt on August 01, 2013, 03:18:04 am
Honesty, we were only friendly with the FCC prior to being attacked in Unuzdaq Castle, and then attacked by Raven and Dracul in Yruma and Karindi. Slezkh was another story. We're only joining the FCC now in order to secure the survival of our faction, and to actually have some fun battles. Rather than being blockaded on all sides by those who were, until recently, our enemies, we chose to make peace and join the FCC. Stop the shitposting in this thread, use italics for fuck's sake. We were going strong until about 4 posts in.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Keshian on August 01, 2013, 03:27:32 am
Honesty, we were only friendly with the FCC prior to being attacked in Unuzdaq Castle, and then attacked by Raven and Dracul in Yruma and Karindi. Slezkh was another story. We're only joining the FCC now in order to secure the survival of our faction, and to actually have some fun battles. Rather than being blockaded on all sides by those who were, until recently, our enemies, we chose to make peace and join the FCC. Stop the shitposting in this thread, use italics for fuck's sake. We were going strong until about 4 posts in.

Sorry reinhardt  :cry:
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Bronto on August 01, 2013, 03:56:30 am
Well I hope you all are enjoying your vassalage to occitan.  Maybe you should actually talk to Acre or HG or Fallen and you would see "Free" companies of calradia actually means what it says - most factions are largely independent doing trade runs and raids, but available to help with rosters and troops and gold from the other small factions making up the FCC so they don't get railroaded by the giant alliance of Occitan, Hospitallers, Lost Legion, Semenstorm, Chaos, FILDGB, Blood, Golden Apple Corps etc. etc.  Those same factions don't even bother declaring war against anyone not in their giant alliance of 80% of the map - I feel bad for aggregate alliance watching 4 factions in the alliance work together to attack them without even 1 declaration of war - just acting on occitan's orders as good vassals because they are a less established new faction thats not a vassal.

Kind of gross watching you guys talk shit while basically copying the garbage that ruined EU, just like occitan copied it from the UIF - lets all kiss each other's asses and carebear because anything else would be too much of a challenge and oh no you might make enemies by actually fighting wars.  Thanks for dirtying up the thread - i have to give props to dracul and raven for being one of the few factions not sucking french cock and being strong enough to stand alone and I respect Acre for their impressive defense where they did an amazing job and i completely understand why they asked to join us - same reason we formed it in the first place - strategus is incredibly difficult for small, unestablished factions and having a group of small factions all working together we can actually accomplish something on strategus even when many members in each faction are inactive.

Thank god we have fought most of you at one time or another
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- NA strat would have been as boring as EU otherwise.

#delusional
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on August 01, 2013, 03:59:07 am
Somebody told me Kesh was posting so I had to come back and do my job once more:

Shut up Kesh, you're a my old friend.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Saxton on August 01, 2013, 05:02:30 am
CAN MY FACTION JOIN FCC?
IT SEEMS TO BE THE HIP THING THESE DAYS


Of course if i joined now, it wouldn't be hip...it would be mainstream.

I'm going to be hip and not join FCC
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Little Lord Lollipop on August 01, 2013, 05:10:31 am
Thanks for all the battles. Kudos to Acre, Dracul and Raven for the show of sportsmanship in not abusing game mechanics (1/3 rule and item bombing). As a neutral mercenary I appreciate battles being fought fairly and without all the drama bullshit.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Apollo on August 01, 2013, 05:28:20 am
im never shooting a got damned catapult again
gf
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Aderyn on August 01, 2013, 05:36:15 am
kesh you doesn't seem to understand that most people attack aggregate alliance because they are friendly to FCC. Same with acre but acre are your vassals in public. HG Fallen etc are all under FCC so not sure why they are brought up since most people dislike FCC and thus work against them and attack them.

And from what i can tell most dislike FCC because of you. Maybe consider retiring from FCC?
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 01, 2013, 05:46:14 am
If Kesh abandoned the my old friendgy Comrades of Communism forever I, Zlisch, Goats priest and regent of Werfrieds Peasant Battalion, would officially hug Matey.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Tojo on August 01, 2013, 06:16:57 am
General Rule of Thumb:
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Just make a thread called : Why FCC is bad/evil/Satan Incarnate

In this thread you can go ahead a post your opinions/propaganda/shit in an organized area of hate.
would make reading through threads to find the good posts alot easier.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Canuck on August 01, 2013, 07:20:34 am
he doesn't even give durquba back to the chevalieres, he just lets the NA half of his faction only have 3 villages while only the french get all the cities and castles)

Canuck looked down in disbelief. Could anyone actually consider just the English speaking Americans to fully constitute North America?
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 01, 2013, 09:03:44 am
Canuck looked down in disbelief. Could anyone actually consider just the English speaking Americans to fully constitute North America?

In addition, whether you will believe me or not there has only been a single meeting between our "bloc" in which we simply agreed that we were united in opposition against FCC. Interestingly enough, only my faction and Occitan have attacked FCC proper, with Semenstorm attacking Aggregate Alliance. If we were all shackled to LCO, you would see a hell of a lot more action against you folks. Arowaine has not given orders to anyone; my only interaction with him really is having TONS of fun fighting with him in all the battles we participate in and providing information on where we will make offensives against FCC. Seriously though, it is so fucking awesome fighting with Arowaine the caged tiger. The best is when he looses warcries that are a combination of a Native American battle-cry and a traitor rebel yell.

To the Aggregate Alliance:

I apologize for any miscommunication between us. I believe that some of my lieutenants (I guess thats what they are? Sounds kinda gay but that's what we are known for) spoke to you and made something of a peace agreement with you. Basically, Mantooth is an absolutely scurvy privateer that is something of a free agent, and we love our half man half mantooth for that. He's been in my clan since week 1, doesn't always get in TS, but he kicks ass 100% of the time. Anyway, he comes into teamspeak and asks bluntly "may I take this guy down, he's easy pickings" and I authorized it. The way I look at it, we are mortally opposed to FCC, and a friend of my enemy is more or less my enemy. Hitting FCC's trade partners is beneficial to the war effort. Nothing personal, and I sincerely appreciate the new players you guys (especially 3rd RL) have brought into this mod. Hopefully we won't come to serious blows, but I do not think either of our parties will be too upset at it. I reckon both of us enjoy a good tussle. This shit ain't trading simulator 2013 anyway.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: BaleOhay on August 01, 2013, 01:13:56 pm
Agg is not one of our trade partners.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Bronto on August 01, 2013, 04:04:05 pm
Interestingly enough, only my faction and Occitan have attacked FCC proper, with Semenstorm attacking Aggregate Alliance.

We may be small but with our limited resources we attacked FCC on numerous occasions as well. And if you're going to bring in tertiary clans that aren't part of FCC (but in secret are) we attacked 3rdRL too, several times and they kept getting thousands of troops from somewhere FCC.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Necrorave on August 01, 2013, 04:28:49 pm
Thanks for all the battles. Kudos to Acre, Dracul and Raven for the show of sportsmanship in not abusing game mechanics (1/3 rule and item bombing). As a neutral mercenary I appreciate battles being fought fairly and without all the drama bullshit.

This is what we were aiming for.  I may not be a huge part of Dracul, but I am glad to be part of it for this raisin.


As Necrorave sat in his 'Chamber chair' writing this down for his Carrier Pigeon known as 'DaWebz' to deliver, he chuckled to himself.  "I am quite the hoot!" he said quietly, "Right Applesauce?" 

Necrorave turned to his bowl of applesauce and scooped his hand in slowly.  He then began to lightly rub the applesauce on his face with such a tender touch, his own hairs stood on end.

After exhaling for an extended amount of time in a satisfied manner, Necrorave then sent DaWebz to deliver his hilarious message to all those involved.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Keshian on August 01, 2013, 04:54:26 pm
We may be small but with our limited resources we attacked FCC on numerous occasions as well. And if you're going to bring in tertiary clans that aren't part of FCC (but in secret are) we attacked 3rdRL too, several times and they kept getting thousands of troops from somewhere FCC.

Lol - you attacked 1 member of an alliance of 3-4 factions and you are surprised the other factions reinforced them?  We didn't give them a single troop - we were paid troops from them for the fiefs so if anything we took troops away from what they could fight with.


But back on topic - had a lot more fun in yruma castle battles than I have had in many of the other recent NA battles.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Rhalzo on August 01, 2013, 05:02:53 pm
Interestingly enough, only my faction and Occitan have attacked FCC proper, with Semenstorm attacking Aggregate Alliance.

This... (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3779)

What about this? (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3704)

Oh, this one too. (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3581)

And this. (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3578)

This. (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3576)

That one too. (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3563)

And this. (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3392)

And this one... (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3389)

We may not have done the best in these, but we attacked FCC "proper" 8 times.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: MURDERTRON on August 01, 2013, 08:19:35 pm
I dont know if you meany to qualify your statement with a period of time, but Semenstorm has also attacked us multiple times, as well as KUTT and Hospitallers.  Raven as well.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 01, 2013, 09:06:50 pm
This... (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3779)

What about this? (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3704)

Oh, this one too. (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3581)

And this. (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3578)

This. (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3576)

That one too. (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3563)

And this. (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3392)

And this one... (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3389)

We may not have done the best in these, but we attacked FCC "proper" 8 times.

Yeah, I fucked that up. I rather meant that the only factions that attacked (and were participants in) after our SUPER SEKRIT CLUB MEETING were those guys.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: BaleOhay on August 01, 2013, 11:29:24 pm
We may be small but with our limited resources we attacked FCC on numerous occasions as well. And if you're going to bring in tertiary clans that aren't part of FCC (but in secret are) we attacked 3rdRL too, several times and they kept getting thousands of troops from somewhere FCC.

We did not give agg alliance any troops. Sorry if you thought so but it is not true.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 01, 2013, 11:33:08 pm
Agg is not one of our trade partners.

Perhaps not with goods, but I have heard from a few folks that some members of TAA do sell you troops; something that is directly detrimental to our efforts. It's hearsay of course, but I do not feel that I am in a position to ask you LOL R U BUYING TROOPZ FROM AGG?!
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: dynamike on August 01, 2013, 11:41:58 pm
I have been gone for what, four weeks, and this is all still only about calling FCC mean?

Come on, folks. You can do better!
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Canary on August 02, 2013, 12:25:57 am
Despite getting sick of seeing clan after clan "make peace" by joining FCC to get a war to end, I do believe the game is better when wars don't last forever.

For that I say good on you, Acre and Dracul, for finding a way to have some fun fights that don't grind everybody's patience to the nub.



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Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Artyem on August 02, 2013, 12:58:15 am
Well, the people that should be thanked are the Ravens of Valhalla, as they did 90% of the fighting.  Without them this war would have ended a lot sooner, and most certainly not in our favor.

Of course, CHAOS and Occitan / Chevalier for the excellent mercenaries.  Sandersson and Apollo for taking on what is easily the worst job in a siege, catapults / engineer work.  They did it every single time and we heard very few complaints from them (despite the fact they were probably having the worst time of their lives).

And thank you, Acre, for being reasonable and capable of playing the game cooperatively.  So very few people are willing to do this, as the "WIN AT ALL COSTS" mentality has taken over a large majority of the map.

FCC did help organize the final peace treaty, and were the middlemen throughout the entire fight.  Good on you, FCC.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 02, 2013, 01:22:40 am
Well, the people that should be thanked are the Ravens of Valhalla, as they did 90% of the fighting.  Without them this war would have ended a lot sooner, and most certainly not in our favor.

Of course, CHAOS and Occitan / Chevalier for the excellent mercenaries.  Sandersson and Apollo for taking on what is easily the worst job in a siege, catapults / engineer work.  They did it every single time and we heard very few complaints from them (despite the fact they were probably having the worst time of their lives).

And thank you, Acre, for being reasonable and capable of playing the game cooperatively.  So very few people are willing to do this, as the "WIN AT ALL COSTS" mentality has taken over a large majority of the map.

FCC did help organize the final peace treaty, and were the middlemen throughout the entire fight.  Good on you, FCC.

Catapulting is more fun than engineering bitch-work like making endless racks, forward bases, and throwing ladders.

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Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Thumper on August 02, 2013, 01:24:41 am
We don't sell troops to the FCC seeing as to how we need them to defend our borders from all the armies that attacked or are attacking borders. All we did was buy the fiefs, but the fights are very fun and provide lots of XP. We are ready to have a good tussle with the Frisians too.  :wink:

Thank you for accepting us as a serious independent faction and fighting us as one.

Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Canary on August 02, 2013, 01:40:55 am
We don't sell troops to the FCC seeing as to how we need them to defend our borders from all the armies that attacked or are attacking borders. All we did was buy the fiefs, but the fights are very fun and provide lots of XP. We are ready to have a good tussle with the Frisians too.  :wink:

Thank you for accepting us as a serious independent faction and fighting us as one.

You see? Isn't this a better outcome, people actually fighting the new guy, rather than having him sit idly? It's ironic considering the criticism Chaos got from FCC Kesh for doing "nothing all strat" that he now criticizes people for attacking the Aggregates, as though he wants them to do nothing.

It may seem like part of a more grand two-sided conflict, but because of the way each individual component faction does what they will how they want to, it needn't end that way, and it won't play out the same as, for example, the EU's massive turtle-fest. (although considering the nearly 10k troops FCC's been holding in one of their conquered fiefs on their border, perhaps it will anyway =\)
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Reinhardt on August 02, 2013, 01:43:52 am
Sandersson and Apollo for taking on what is easily the worst job in a siege, catapults / engineer work.  They did it every single time and we heard very few complaints from them (despite the fact they were probably having the worst time of their lives).

It was, at least for the 4th-6th sieges, no doubt annoying to have to defend against our wall-jumping cav catapult fighter squadrons.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: BaleOhay on August 02, 2013, 02:47:24 am
although considering the nearly 10k troops FCC's been holding in one of their conquered fiefs on their border, perhaps it will anyway =\)

I imagine you are speakign about New Derchios Castle? It is our Southern border and adjacent to faction we are at war with... It makes sense to garrison it properly.
about 9000 troops inside...

Now look around the map. I can name several places that have an even greater troop mass some in areas far from front lines (no one on this list take any insult, none is meant... just wondering why we are being singled out)
Nova Uxkhal 18,000
Nova Grunwalder Castle 28,000
New Almerra Castle 20,000
New Weyyah Castle 10,500
New Sungetche Castle 12,000
New Tulbuk Castle 14,000
Nova Tulga 11,000
New Ahmerrad 10,000


it would seem we need more men not less



Enjoy the castle arty. Glad dracul is growing again
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Adoptagoat on August 02, 2013, 02:54:20 am
If Kesh abandoned the my old friendgy Comrades of Communism forever I, Zlisch, Goats priest and regent of Werfrieds Peasant Battalion, would officially hug Matey.

You are no priest of mine.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Adoptagoat on August 02, 2013, 02:58:25 am
I imagine you are speakign about New Derchios Castle? It is our Southern border and adjacent to faction we are at war with... It makes sense to garrison it properly.
about 9000 troops inside...

Now look around the map. I can name several places that have an even greater troop mass some in areas far from front lines (no one on this list take any insult, none is meant... just wondering why we are being singled out)
Nova Uxkhal 18,000
Nova Grunwalder Castle 28,000
New Almerra Castle 20,000
New Weyyah Castle 10,500
New Sungetche Castle 12,000
New Tulbuk Castle 14,000
Nova Tulga 11,000
New Ahmerrad 10,000


it would seem we need more men not less



Enjoy the castle arty. Glad dracul is growing again

For the record, Grunwalder is our base of operations, and therefore where we cheaply store our excess troops.  As the current lord of Grunwalder, I offer to move the excess troops out should a faction declare their intentions/possession of balls to declare war on us and then actually attack.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: BaleOhay on August 02, 2013, 03:05:54 am
For the record, Grunwalder is our base of operations, and therefore where we cheaply store our excess troops.  As the current lord of Grunwalder, I offer to move the excess troops out should a faction declare their intentions/possession of balls to declare war on us and then actually attack.

Lord Goat!

Been a while, good to see you posting again.. As I said no complaint from me about your troops. Store troops wherever and however you wish. I was just pointing out that saying our 9000 was akin to turtling is a bit silly.

Hell if you take into account how near impossible the place is to take New Dhirim with 6000 troops is ludicrous! That is the force multiplier of having 100,000 men inside that place.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 02, 2013, 03:40:36 am
You are no priest of mine.
Heathen scum!
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Adoptagoat on August 02, 2013, 03:49:48 am
Heathen scum!

As the North American acknowledged Goat, one either accepts my opinions as gospel, having the greater goat insights to North American Strategus diplomacy and History, or one gets the fuck out.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 02, 2013, 04:26:14 am
As the North American acknowledged Goat, one either accepts my opinions as gospel, having the greater goat insights to North American Strategus diplomacy and History, or one gets the fuck out.
You must either bow down to the one true goat Mork the goat god or you shall be burned at the stake!
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Turboflex on August 02, 2013, 06:00:07 am
I imagine you are speakign about New Derchios Castle? It is our Southern border and adjacent to faction we are at war with... It makes sense to garrison it properly.
about 9000 troops inside...

Now look around the map. I can name several places that have an even greater troop mass some in areas far from front lines (no one on this list take any insult, none is meant... just wondering why we are being singled out)
Nova Uxkhal 18,000
Nova Grunwalder Castle 28,000
New Almerra Castle 20,000
New Weyyah Castle 10,500
New Sungetche Castle 12,000
New Tulbuk Castle 14,000
Nova Tulga 11,000
New Ahmerrad 10,000


it would seem we need more men not less



Enjoy the castle arty. Glad dracul is growing again

Pretty weak comparing fiefs way in dormant areas to one that is clearly in a contested combat zone. 8000 troops is not "garrisoned properly" it's impossible to attack due to 1/3 rule, no excuse to have more than 4500 troops in that circumstance.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Tanken on August 02, 2013, 07:39:57 am
It seems to be a tradition in Diplomacy forums that we get a mediocre role-play post, followed by 4-5 semi-serious or comical role-play posts (mostly people just flexing their intellectual prowess through words)...and then one comment seems to dictate the next 3 or 4 pages of shit posting.


Keep it up guys, you're doing a great job.


For reference, please refer to previous 4 pages.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: MURDERTRON on August 02, 2013, 08:04:39 am
Pretty weak comparing fiefs way in dormant areas to one that is clearly in a contested combat zone. 8000 troops is not "garrisoned properly" it's impossible to attack due to 1/3 rule, no excuse to have more than 4500 troops in that circumstance.

So we should have less troops in our castles because we are in a more active war area? Should we attempt to make war less costly for our enemies and more expensive for ourselves?

I find it odd that you have an opinion of how we should run our faction, when you should be more worried about your own.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Keshian on August 02, 2013, 08:15:29 am
Pretty weak comparing fiefs way in dormant areas to one that is clearly in a contested combat zone. 8000 troops is not "garrisoned properly" it's impossible to attack due to 1/3 rule, no excuse to have more than 4500 troops in that circumstance.

Tobe fair - remnant was planning on doing some expeditions.  Those 8K troops is more a sign of how many remnant are recruiting troops amd jow long its gone with absolutely no attacks.  Its not like chaos and occitan would ever have the balls to attack it.  Was sitting for 3 weeks with less than 5K troops and nothing.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Goretooth on August 02, 2013, 09:43:59 am
Tobe fair - remnant was planning on doing some expeditions.  Those 8K troops is more a sign of how many remnant are recruiting troops amd jow long its gone with absolutely no attacks.  Its not like chaos and occitan would ever have the balls to attack it.  Was sitting for 3 weeks with less than 5K troops and nothing.
Open Field battles sound fun.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Gristle on August 02, 2013, 11:17:37 am
Fuck fields and fuck horses! Give me a solid wall to ascend or defend.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Canary on August 02, 2013, 12:14:29 pm
I imagine you are speakign about New Derchios Castle? It is our Southern border and adjacent to faction we are at war with... It makes sense to garrison it properly.
about 9000 troops inside...

Now look around the map. I can name several places that have an even greater troop mass some in areas far from front lines (no one on this list take any insult, none is meant... just wondering why we are being singled out)
Nova Uxkhal 18,000
Nova Grunwalder Castle 28,000
New Almerra Castle 20,000
New Weyyah Castle 10,500
New Sungetche Castle 12,000
New Tulbuk Castle 14,000
Nova Tulga 11,000
New Ahmerrad 10,000


it would seem we need more men not less

Only one of the fiefs you mention is on the border of an active war (not including, possibly, HoC's castle, which could be discounted for obvious reasons), only one was taken from another faction by force within the last few months. It's New Derchios castle, of course.

I singled it out because you took it from us recently. It's an effective strategy, not letting us fight you back, but it's a shitty one that leads to a stagnant map with less battles. The fact that it's close to the front line is exactly why I have a problem with it.

Hell if you take into account how near impossible the place is to take New Dhirim with 6000 troops is ludicrous! That is the force multiplier of having 100,000 men inside that place.

Yeah, but at least you could attack it without wasting hundreds of tickets to the timer. (2000 of the 6000 is population which doesn't count against the 1/3rd attacking rule)

Tobe fair - remnant was planning on doing some expeditions.  Those 8K troops is more a sign of how many remnant are recruiting troops amd jow long its gone with absolutely no attacks.  Its not like chaos and occitan would ever have the balls to attack it.  Was sitting for 3 weeks with less than 5K troops and nothing.

You'll notice that almost exactly around that timeline (3 weeks~) was when FIDLGB attacked Senuzgda castle instead - it was a second resort, because of extra troops being put into Derchios. I am pretty sure right around that time was when it went above the reasonable limit to attack.

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Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Kreczor on August 02, 2013, 02:14:28 pm
Tobe fair - remnant was planning on doing some expeditions.  Those 8K troops is more a sign of how many remnant are recruiting troops amd jow long its gone with absolutely no attacks.  Its not like chaos and occitan would ever have the balls to attack it.  Was sitting for 3 weeks with less than 5K troops and nothing.
I don't see remnant on the map? Who are you talking about?



owned remnant are fcc vassals
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Keshian on August 02, 2013, 03:03:30 pm

You'll notice that almost exactly around that timeline (3 weeks~) was when FIDLGB attacked Senuzgda castle instead - it was a second resort, because of extra troops being put into Derchios. I am pretty sure right around that time was when it went above the reasonable limit to attack.


Lol, actually we had under 5k troops there when fidlgb atatcked senuzgda because we asked remnant for an  army up north, I think we even commented in that battle in ts about you guys bitching out not wanting to fight us rather than a faction still new to how strategus works.  The last 2-3K is actually pretty recent in the last week or so as a bunch of remnant guys who had been recruiting for a long time without dropping troops off were gotten a hold of to do so.  So yeah guys - keep making shit up because of course FCC is the evil guys and you guys are saints.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Turboflex on August 02, 2013, 03:47:48 pm
People were responding to Bale & Murder's dumb excuses for Derchios troop stack, your explanation was more reasonable. We know not everyone is perfectly responsive to requests but maximum effort should be made to get any fief in a war zone under 4000 asap so they can be properly contested. We all have deal with strat's "beta"-ness (nobody would be stacking troops if there was a proper siege mechanic to starve out oversized garrisons) but everyone has to do their part to not abuse it otherwise our relatively nice NA garden will quickly turn into a swamp like EU. Dhirim's map issues were cited, but on the flip side most of FCC's castles and cities have wooden walls which are currently indestructible.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: dynamike on August 02, 2013, 04:04:31 pm
New Derchios castle

Correction:

There is, unfortunately, no strategy or grand scheme behind Durrcheetos holding a great deal of troops.

The sad truth is, taking two clicks a week and dumping recruited troops into the castle is pretty much all anyone of us was up for over the last weeks in Camperfest Strategus.



Suggestion for Canary:

If you're in the mood for some fights and worried about attacking the castle, we could always meet in the middle between our fiefs and have some open field battles. Just let me know.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Rhalzo on August 02, 2013, 07:58:06 pm
You'll notice that almost exactly around that timeline (3 weeks~) was when FIDLGB attacked Senuzgda castle instead - it was a second resort, because of extra troops being put into Derchios. I am pretty sure right around that time was when it went above the reasonable limit to attack.
Lol, actually we had under 5k troops there when fidlgb atatcked senuzgda because we asked remnant for an  army up north, I think we even commented in that battle in ts about you guys bitching out not wanting to fight us rather than a faction still new to how strategus works.  The last 2-3K is actually pretty recent in the last week or so as a bunch of remnant guys who had been recruiting for a long time without dropping troops off were gotten a hold of to do so.  So yeah guys - keep making shit up because of course FCC is the evil guys and you guys are saints.

For the record, we were going to attack Derchios Castle before the troop count went up higher than we wanted and had to change our plans. We had serious plans about taking it and were in talks with Canary about the best way to do so when we noticed how many troops were in it. So that lead to us attacking Senuzgda Castle instead. Simple enough.

Who is claiming that we are saints by the way? I really want to know who is misleading the general public.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Canary on August 02, 2013, 08:05:11 pm
Rhalzo came to me to discuss another option because the troop count went up to around 5400. This is something specific that I saw happen.

If it went down again by the time they attacked, it was too late for us by then.



edit: I suppose we could have then asked you to take troops out prior to the attack, but talking out fair avenues of war with you guys never seems likely to amount to much, especially considering your attitude now.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 02, 2013, 08:14:39 pm
So FCC gains a vassal and incorporates another one.  Good deal
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: dynamike on August 02, 2013, 08:25:50 pm
Suggestion for Canary:

If you're in the mood for some fights and worried about attacking the castle, we could always meet in the middle between our fiefs and have some open field battles. Just let me know.

edit: I suppose we could have then asked you to take troops out prior to the attack, but talking out fair avenues of war with you guys never seems likely to amount to much, especially considering your attitude now.

Well... this is ironic  :|
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Canary on August 02, 2013, 08:35:53 pm
Because of the typical public appearance (i.e. the forums) it's still hard to think of the FCC as a union of different groups of people.

Another thing to be remiss about.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Relit on August 02, 2013, 09:22:07 pm
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A long column of men marched tiredly south, many with battle wounds still somewhat fresh. The 'road' was a dirt path which had seen far too many feet walking on it recently. The smarter of the men walked beside the path, in the grass. A pair of these smart men, at the front of the column, seemed to have a lot to say...

"Back and forth, back and forth! How many times have we marched away from home in the last 4 months?", grumbled Euron Odin-Blessed.

"Too many times. I want ale and a wench. Not stale bread and sores on my feet!" replied Stormcrow Eyebane, as he munched on his recently turned moldy bread chunk.

The two men seemed a odd match. Euron was a honest man, never one to take advantage of anybody, he lets even the most ridiculous merchant talk him up in price. It was as if he hated to bargain in the event that it might seem like he was being unfair. And then Stormcrow, a hunter by trade and used to being alone in the wilderness for months on end. He was not one to normally talk at all. But together these two men composed the entirety of the 'archer brigade' of the Chieftains warband and seemed to get along better than just about everyone else. Except for The Battle-Brothers Surtr and Guiness, those cheating bastards... but that is another story.

"When we get home, first thing I am doing is taking off these boots and sitting down for a entire day. A whole day of sitting, can you imagine that? It will be glorious." Euron continued, while he longingly looked south.

"You will need to burn those boots anyway. Everybody downwind thinks so too." Stormcrow said with a entirely straight face.

"Very funny coming from the guy who has not bathed since... ever? Speaking of wenches, so do you find many a fair maiden out in the wild? I bet you think those deer are even starting to look pretty." Euron replied.

The two men continued this long, pointless conversation the entire way home, through the forest of Narra and into the full brunt of the maddening steppe winds. 


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Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Kalam on August 03, 2013, 01:03:37 am
So FCC gains a vassal and incorporates another one.  Good deal

We don't have vassals. That's the beauty of the system. I explained it in detail somewhere, I'm sure you could check my posts if you were really curious.

We became what we are because we tried to be vassals, but our masters sucked/washed their hands of us/GTX.

That whole feudal system thing is ineffective in Strategus- it's for that reason that very few (do any? I haven't seen one in a long time) factions still employ it. When's the last time it was successful, Hews-Hews? 2010?

We're not a hegemony, either, because you, of all people, should realize that no other clan looks at FCC and says 'hey I want to be just like them'.

The United States is the easiest example. We're all American, but not everyone is from Oregon or Alabama. The individual clans still control their own members in terms of behavior, admittance, themes, etc.

True, the core clans are hard to distinguish, but that's the effect time has on people who do things together for years.


That's our hope for every clan that adds it's name to our rosters- that we become close enough that I wouldn't mind letting a clanmate babysit my kid or crash at my apartment.


For the record, I view the Frisia/CHAOS/Semenstorm/Occitan alliance as simply that: an alliance of clans with one goal. 

Also, love Dracul. I assume they're just seizing an opportunity. Which is how it should be done, when you don't have the raw numbers.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 03, 2013, 01:10:46 am
FCC: Where good clans go to die.

Well, at least Remnant was revitalized and has active folks on Strategus now. When they were their own faction, they kinda stagnated, although before that they had a very interesting run in Strat 4.

Can't say anything else for any other clans (is that what I call sub-factions of FCC? I need to come up with a term besides vassals or bitches since that is not really definitive of their relationship), only because I have not paid much attention to them.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Kalam on August 03, 2013, 01:24:00 am
FCC: Where good clans go to die.

An interesting thought.

In which case, we are a museum, and each clan within is a wing.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Relit on August 03, 2013, 03:56:38 am
I like that.

I was thinking more of a retirement home though, where each loveable old coot tells you about the good old days and how the world is changing.

Sounds like Raven TS whenever I talk.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: HarryCrumb on August 03, 2013, 06:47:29 am
"Back in my day, loom points were worth 100k and I'm darn tootin' sure I ain't payin' a penny more" ~Relit
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: Zaren on August 03, 2013, 07:47:29 am
Zaren stood on the walls of walls of bardaq castle, watching CONQUEEFADOR playing jump-rope with a long rope made out of the pubic hair of the dead HoC from that seige a couple weeks ago. She heard rumors of the long seige for the Crusader castle coming to an end through peaceful means. To be honest, she cared little for what happened to the castle, her attention was on Nova Sharwa. She left the "beautiful" view of the endless sand the walls offered her and went inside to continue her plot to ninja sharwa from Sittingbull who was too busy playing with his dick(aka mortal online and fallout or something) to notice anything.
Title: Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
Post by: BoneSaw on August 07, 2013, 08:58:55 pm
Soft penis.