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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2013, 07:39:57 am »
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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2013, 08:04:39 am »
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Pretty weak comparing fiefs way in dormant areas to one that is clearly in a contested combat zone. 8000 troops is not "garrisoned properly" it's impossible to attack due to 1/3 rule, no excuse to have more than 4500 troops in that circumstance.

So we should have less troops in our castles because we are in a more active war area? Should we attempt to make war less costly for our enemies and more expensive for ourselves?

I find it odd that you have an opinion of how we should run our faction, when you should be more worried about your own.
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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2013, 08:15:29 am »
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Pretty weak comparing fiefs way in dormant areas to one that is clearly in a contested combat zone. 8000 troops is not "garrisoned properly" it's impossible to attack due to 1/3 rule, no excuse to have more than 4500 troops in that circumstance.

Tobe fair - remnant was planning on doing some expeditions.  Those 8K troops is more a sign of how many remnant are recruiting troops amd jow long its gone with absolutely no attacks.  Its not like chaos and occitan would ever have the balls to attack it.  Was sitting for 3 weeks with less than 5K troops and nothing.
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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2013, 09:43:59 am »
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Tobe fair - remnant was planning on doing some expeditions.  Those 8K troops is more a sign of how many remnant are recruiting troops amd jow long its gone with absolutely no attacks.  Its not like chaos and occitan would ever have the balls to attack it.  Was sitting for 3 weeks with less than 5K troops and nothing.
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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2013, 11:17:37 am »
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Fuck fields and fuck horses! Give me a solid wall to ascend or defend.

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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #50 on: August 02, 2013, 12:14:29 pm »
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I imagine you are speakign about New Derchios Castle? It is our Southern border and adjacent to faction we are at war with... It makes sense to garrison it properly.
about 9000 troops inside...

Now look around the map. I can name several places that have an even greater troop mass some in areas far from front lines (no one on this list take any insult, none is meant... just wondering why we are being singled out)
Nova Uxkhal 18,000
Nova Grunwalder Castle 28,000
New Almerra Castle 20,000
New Weyyah Castle 10,500
New Sungetche Castle 12,000
New Tulbuk Castle 14,000
Nova Tulga 11,000
New Ahmerrad 10,000


it would seem we need more men not less

Only one of the fiefs you mention is on the border of an active war (not including, possibly, HoC's castle, which could be discounted for obvious reasons), only one was taken from another faction by force within the last few months. It's New Derchios castle, of course.

I singled it out because you took it from us recently. It's an effective strategy, not letting us fight you back, but it's a shitty one that leads to a stagnant map with less battles. The fact that it's close to the front line is exactly why I have a problem with it.

Hell if you take into account how near impossible the place is to take New Dhirim with 6000 troops is ludicrous! That is the force multiplier of having 100,000 men inside that place.

Yeah, but at least you could attack it without wasting hundreds of tickets to the timer. (2000 of the 6000 is population which doesn't count against the 1/3rd attacking rule)

Tobe fair - remnant was planning on doing some expeditions.  Those 8K troops is more a sign of how many remnant are recruiting troops amd jow long its gone with absolutely no attacks.  Its not like chaos and occitan would ever have the balls to attack it.  Was sitting for 3 weeks with less than 5K troops and nothing.

You'll notice that almost exactly around that timeline (3 weeks~) was when FIDLGB attacked Senuzgda castle instead - it was a second resort, because of extra troops being put into Derchios. I am pretty sure right around that time was when it went above the reasonable limit to attack.

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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2013, 02:14:28 pm »
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Tobe fair - remnant was planning on doing some expeditions.  Those 8K troops is more a sign of how many remnant are recruiting troops amd jow long its gone with absolutely no attacks.  Its not like chaos and occitan would ever have the balls to attack it.  Was sitting for 3 weeks with less than 5K troops and nothing.
I don't see remnant on the map? Who are you talking about?



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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2013, 03:03:30 pm »
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You'll notice that almost exactly around that timeline (3 weeks~) was when FIDLGB attacked Senuzgda castle instead - it was a second resort, because of extra troops being put into Derchios. I am pretty sure right around that time was when it went above the reasonable limit to attack.


Lol, actually we had under 5k troops there when fidlgb atatcked senuzgda because we asked remnant for an  army up north, I think we even commented in that battle in ts about you guys bitching out not wanting to fight us rather than a faction still new to how strategus works.  The last 2-3K is actually pretty recent in the last week or so as a bunch of remnant guys who had been recruiting for a long time without dropping troops off were gotten a hold of to do so.  So yeah guys - keep making shit up because of course FCC is the evil guys and you guys are saints.
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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #53 on: August 02, 2013, 03:47:48 pm »
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People were responding to Bale & Murder's dumb excuses for Derchios troop stack, your explanation was more reasonable. We know not everyone is perfectly responsive to requests but maximum effort should be made to get any fief in a war zone under 4000 asap so they can be properly contested. We all have deal with strat's "beta"-ness (nobody would be stacking troops if there was a proper siege mechanic to starve out oversized garrisons) but everyone has to do their part to not abuse it otherwise our relatively nice NA garden will quickly turn into a swamp like EU. Dhirim's map issues were cited, but on the flip side most of FCC's castles and cities have wooden walls which are currently indestructible.

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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #54 on: August 02, 2013, 04:04:31 pm »
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New Derchios castle

Correction:

There is, unfortunately, no strategy or grand scheme behind Durrcheetos holding a great deal of troops.

The sad truth is, taking two clicks a week and dumping recruited troops into the castle is pretty much all anyone of us was up for over the last weeks in Camperfest Strategus.



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If you're in the mood for some fights and worried about attacking the castle, we could always meet in the middle between our fiefs and have some open field battles. Just let me know.
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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2013, 07:58:06 pm »
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You'll notice that almost exactly around that timeline (3 weeks~) was when FIDLGB attacked Senuzgda castle instead - it was a second resort, because of extra troops being put into Derchios. I am pretty sure right around that time was when it went above the reasonable limit to attack.
Lol, actually we had under 5k troops there when fidlgb atatcked senuzgda because we asked remnant for an  army up north, I think we even commented in that battle in ts about you guys bitching out not wanting to fight us rather than a faction still new to how strategus works.  The last 2-3K is actually pretty recent in the last week or so as a bunch of remnant guys who had been recruiting for a long time without dropping troops off were gotten a hold of to do so.  So yeah guys - keep making shit up because of course FCC is the evil guys and you guys are saints.

For the record, we were going to attack Derchios Castle before the troop count went up higher than we wanted and had to change our plans. We had serious plans about taking it and were in talks with Canary about the best way to do so when we noticed how many troops were in it. So that lead to us attacking Senuzgda Castle instead. Simple enough.

Who is claiming that we are saints by the way? I really want to know who is misleading the general public.
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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2013, 08:05:11 pm »
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Rhalzo came to me to discuss another option because the troop count went up to around 5400. This is something specific that I saw happen.

If it went down again by the time they attacked, it was too late for us by then.



edit: I suppose we could have then asked you to take troops out prior to the attack, but talking out fair avenues of war with you guys never seems likely to amount to much, especially considering your attitude now.
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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #57 on: August 02, 2013, 08:14:39 pm »
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So FCC gains a vassal and incorporates another one.  Good deal
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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2013, 08:25:50 pm »
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Suggestion for Canary:

If you're in the mood for some fights and worried about attacking the castle, we could always meet in the middle between our fiefs and have some open field battles. Just let me know.

edit: I suppose we could have then asked you to take troops out prior to the attack, but talking out fair avenues of war with you guys never seems likely to amount to much, especially considering your attitude now.

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Re: Dracul and Acre reach Peace!
« Reply #59 on: August 02, 2013, 08:35:53 pm »
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Because of the typical public appearance (i.e. the forums) it's still hard to think of the FCC as a union of different groups of people.

Another thing to be remiss about.