You probably got "backstabbed" because no one likes the do anything to win, uber armor crutching, str nerd spergs that KUTT is.
You probably got "backstabbed" because no one likes the do anything to win, uber armor crutching, str nerd spergs that KUTT is.
If you're going to try and insult me, can you at least type at above a 4th grade level?
do anything to win, uber armor crutching, str nerd spergs
Sounds more like FCC than KUTT (who if you remember, had mostly broken gear in strat, and didn't care enough about Strat to give a fuck about winning), but I think that was the point tbh.
This was a fun thread until you came along Holiday. God, you Acre/Teutonic/Acre/AoW guys are so sensitive when it comes to making light of an old feud.
You probably got "backstabbed" because no one likes the do anything to win, uber armor crutching, str nerd spergs that KUTT is.
Lol coming from you that's the pot calling the kettle black. I guess you forgot how many heavy cav you guys use in battle or all the transitional you all were in not more than a week ago. But whatever shitlords gonna shit.
wow tanken... people really dont liked you..
Oh no the forum warrior has risen, when do i ever wear plate? A week ago, can't say i recall. I'm pretty sure you won't see more than two AoW members on at the same time unless there is a strat fight, so i guess "shitlords gonna shit"? GF shitlord bronto, king of all the shits?
Like I said, AoW isn't quite the clan you're thinking. While a couple of us participate in Strategus, we're not really super into it. You can throw all the insults about FCC and whatnot at us, but I don't think many of us really care. To be frank, I enjoy the company of FCC's members. They're pretty relaxed, agreeable people, which is much unlike the pseudo-intellectualism I see from guys like Canary and sometimes even you, Malaclypse.
*Heavy Yaws or Sarranid Guard Armor for the min-max factor, and two-handers with high STR stand out- not that there's any faction that's without it's STR-based heroes (those Raven shielders are pretty beefy, for example, ...
Believe you me, I care less about Strategus now than I ever have.
*Heavy Yaws or Sarranid Guard Armor for the min-max factor, and two-handers with high STR stand out- not that there's any faction that's without it's STR-based heroes (those Raven shielders are pretty beefy, for example, and we had Rhaelys as a disgusting STR dick for the longest time in CHAOS though he has recently gone a more balanced route) and go-to-message-him-as-soon-as-battle-is-declared champion mercenaries like allers, but it always feels like there are quite a few folks rocking the Firebus build with that orange faction comparatively, at least when I'm on the opposite side- lots of one shots or blackbar hits against me and guys who take 5+ 6PS hits for me to kill sometimes. But that's probably less an issue with the faction and more an issue with the metagame of Strat.
Concerning armor: Anyone that has half their tickets with over 47(base) body armor is crutching(47 is the point where armor starts to weigh more for armor).
Can't say I don't either. +3 Red Brigs and +2 Mail, +2 Red Roman Helms....For like 3k tickets. If you don't have heavy armor you're sadly ruined. I just wish that Heraldic Mail was the baseline over all this shitty plate.
Im happy with our banded armor (45 base), I like to think our armies do really well with it and it still fits within our theme restrictions. Sometimes its more important to look good than min-max the way to victory.
I was simply saying that Holiday's comment about heavy armor/STR builds and a in it to win it mentality in Strategus sounds more like FCC* than KUTT (who had broken gear and who mostly weren't interested in Strat- the LL section of it was; KUTT of course had their fair share of STR fellas like Tretter, SHORTSIR, and Soss).
Then he clarified saying that he was speaking about NA 1 and NA 2 and the KUTT of old which is a fair approximation- their members over time gravitated largely to more balanced builds in Lamellar-ish tier armor, but they definitely had their heyday of heavy armor STR gravitating folk.
I wasn't thinking anything about AoW there so I'm not sure if that's meant for me, or if it is, why. Believe you me, I care less about Strategus now than I ever have.
*Heavy Yaws or Sarranid Guard Armor for the min-max factor, and two-handers with high STR stand out- not that there's any faction that's without it's STR-based heroes (those Raven shielders are pretty beefy, for example, and we had Rhaelys as a disgusting STR dick for the longest time in CHAOS though he has recently gone a more balanced route) and go-to-message-him-as-soon-as-battle-is-declared champion mercenaries like allers, but it always feels like there are quite a few folks rocking the Firebus build with that orange faction comparatively, at least when I'm on the opposite side- lots of one shots or blackbar hits against me and guys who take 5+ 6PS hits for me to kill sometimes. But that's probably less an issue with the faction and more an issue with the metagame of Strat.
Mala.. Every single faction in strat uses heavy shit if they got it. And every faction in strat is full of people with more str than agi. Me, you and a few other agi guys like Gmno will always be the minority unless they drastically change this game to make agi a hell of a lot better than it currently isin strat.in all game modes.
Actually i don't believe you - you seem more active than you ever were before now with your golden apple corps vassalage to Occitan and owning a fief.
Not really getting the min-max thing you are saying - we use middle-eastern armor (been our theme for a very long time, heavy yawshawns, mameluke armor - both actually are not the best they emphasize more leg armor and less body armor than equivalent level armor (other factions use trasnitional and milanese plate whicha re actually better armor and heavier gauntlets than our mail gauntlets) and we use cav robes and sarranid guard armor) - for min-maxing look for people maximizing their playerbase with as many hoplites and pikemen as possible as long as its the OP thing with insta-facehugging stabs (word on the street next patch will finally fix that idiocy) or have majority of their players go heavy cav builds - basically flavor of the month OP builds is min-maxing. Can't even remember last time we even had a battle with heavy yawshawns - been reusing gear we won from other battles.
Im honestly just tired of you putting down any faction who doesn't crutch on agility spamming heroism like you do malaclypse, which is dependent on lighter armor.
P.S. Sjimmy this shit was pretty cold. Didn't even let him know so it could be a real battle.
Me, you and a few other agi guys like Gmno will always be the minority unlessthey drastically change this game to make agi a hell of a lot better than it currently is in strat.people choose to change their playstyles.
For owning a fief (which was to be given to CHAOS initially until I goaded Canary into just letting Krosis, Saxton and I dick around with it; so if anything the GAC is a vassal of CHAOS who is a further vassal of Occitan- though that cannot be the case, because if it were Aggregate Alliance would be vassals of FCC, having been given all of that territory they hold by them- but as far as we know, based on the statements of both of those factions, that's not the nature of their relationship) I've been about as active as I need to be, and less now that it's armed and not full of naked men bought from Anders.
It's true, FCC does have their theme set, and there have been less Yaws than before. Within that theme of gear, however, you guys have no light armor at all except for what you pilfer, nothing under 9 pounds/36 armor for body gear readily used; these unused armors account for almost half of all middle-eastern themed body apparel, all of it resting on the lower end of armor (Sarranid Leather Armor- which is beautiful and I don't understand why that isn't your go-to light set with the second Desert Turban- and below). So while it's true that the faction has a theme, it definitely has the preference of heavier armor within that theme. That's an observation- an accurate one- not a judgement!
I never put down "any faction who doesn't crutch on agility spamming heroism". I said that something Holiday said about KUTT (which I assumed was in regards to Strat since this is a Strategus sub-forum but which turned out to be about their past existence in NA 1/NA 2) sounded (to me) like a more apt description of FCC. Maybe he intended to put KUTT down by saying what HE said- that doesn't mean I meant to put FCC down by redirecting his comments to them, just that I (me, here, this guy) thought it was a better description of one faction over the other. An easy mistake to make via only text communication.
I don't think agility is under-powered and that's why people go to Strength oriented builds- I think they're pretty level for lethality and survivability (in their own ways- one by taking more hits, one by avoiding more potentially). This is a player choice thing, and it's probably influenced by a variety of factors: Strategus effectiveness, NA 1 effectiveness, versatility, fun, etc. Agility could stand to be given a very small buff (as it holds one Passive to Strength's two/three passives), but I posit that at the end of the day it's not the lack of possible effectiveness which makes people go more Strength than Agility, it's the boon afforded by extra HP and perhaps a lack of knowledge of how good 12, 15, or 18 STR can be with the right weaponry.
@ Tanken: Did you not see the post I made in your thread (http://forum.meleegaming.com/mercenary-recruitment/for-amurrica!-gettin-our-money-back-1-attack-at-a-time/msg830012/#msg830012) about this before the battle started?
Also I guess there are Flaming Katana's and Donkeys in the game now WAT 0.3.0.3?!
Im honestly just tired of you putting down any faction who doesn't crutch on agility spamming heroism like you do malaclypse, which is dependent on lighter armor.
seriously... saxton? goddamn you are desperate to work with that kid.
Kalam threw a wooden plate against the wall. He wasn't one known to raise his voice, but here was such an occasion. It wasn't a high voice, or a deep one. Just the measured tone of a disgruntled man.
"Who let him talk? Wait, why are you talking? Silence. Silence all of you," he snarled. He pulled a pen and a sheet of vellum from his drawer and began scribbling furiously.
Dear Citizens of Calradia,
Kesh was describing us.
Regards,
Kalam
To be frank, I enjoy the company of FCC's members. They're pretty relaxed, agreeable people, which is much unlike the pseudo-intellectualism I see from guys like Canary and sometimes even you, Malaclypse.
Not throwing any punches here, because I honestly don't know any of you guys, but I'd thought I'd explain some things.
You are working with Saxton? the fuck is wrong with you? I miss fun loving mala who i used to run around with in some of the occ vs VE battles... i dont like this bitter new canary junior spindoctor. p.s. agi sucks in strat because you get fucked by teammates if you try to fight in formation and by cav/range if you try to flank. also TAA bought land from us; did chaos buy land from occ? p.p.s. seriously... saxton? goddamn you are desperate to work with that kid.
Will you fucking dick robbers stop gaying up my thread?
God Damn.
Will you fucking dick robbers stop gaying up my thread?NO!
God Damn.
I guess that's what happens when you attack the innocent Chinese immigrants only looking for a warm bed.
I did it under orders, and for 'Murica.
Will you fucking dick robbers stop gaying up my thread?
God Damn.
I was simply saying that Holiday's comment about heavy armor/STR builds and a in it to win it mentality in Strategus sounds more like FCC* than KUTT (who had broken gear and who mostly weren't interested in Strat- the LL section of it was...
...I wasn't thinking anything about AoW there so I'm not sure if that's meant for me, or if it is, why. Believe you me, I care less about Strategus now than I ever have.
This seems like the kind of misconception that occurs when you only pay attention to people through their forum posting. I'm not saying you're guilty of anything, but, for example, it's like all the FCC guys will tell you: while Kesh may flip his lid all over the forums, he's a decent person to talk to. (I myself got along with him pretty well, once upon a time...!) The same could be said for us, probably.
What I mean is that I assure you it is genuine intellectualism. ;)
All these wars are driving us apaaaaaaaaaaart! I don't have anything personal against you Eh Oh Dubs née Teutonic guys, or Acre, or Aggregates, and perhaps only a bit of a smoldering dislike for some of the things a couple FCC people have said or done, but no great hatred for any of them. We may not have a chance to make friends anytime soon, but we can still be civil, even during a pretend-war. For our part, if someone came a-calling while we're playing the game together and wanted to hang out, we wouldn't drive them away, whoever they were. Maybe more cross-clan hangouts would do us all some good and keep the community from being so constantly hate-filled and two-sided (like that complaint that our multi-clan teamspeak hurts the community because clearly it makes all the clans in there automatically allied!).
In short, maybe we could try to get to know each other, in order to do less harm with what we say about one another?
I prefer Malas hostility and Canary's long winded posts over what the juveniles have done to the forums of late. At least they take the time to think about the things they write... and Canary needs at least an hour to gather quotes for each of his.man, i dont know what you're talking about. between my non-existent brain and constant booze in my belly it takes me at least 6 hours of passing out and getting wasted to type something somewhat comprehensible.
You and some of the Chaos guys seem like you'd be fun to play with, and really that's all that matters in this game to me, but I really would draw the line at that, because the way you interact in the community is pretty off-putting.its just a few of us who are shitheads. even then, its (mostly) only on the forums.
Pseudo-intellectualism was probably the wrong term to use... maybe a bit pompous or pretentious, but you guys seem like otherwise decent people.
From what I have seen on the forums, it's a big, multi-clan circlejerk against FCC. The reason I said pseudo-intellectualism is that I would see I post from you or Malaclypse making normal arguments with FCC members that would be upvoted by everyone in your power bloc of Strategus, while most if not all counter arguments were downvoted by the very same people.
You and some of the Chaos guys seem like you'd be fun to play with, and really that's all that matters in this game to me, but I really would draw the line at that, because the way you interact in the community is pretty off-putting.
There you go, that's the one. I may not be all I feel I'm cracked up to be!
Especially in light of this, pretentious is just the word I'd use. When people will think hating on someone in particular is so cool without really knowing that someone or what they've done wrong, or find an argument compelling without understanding the meaning behind it, that's literal pretentiousness.
I find this to be a great shame. What off-putting kinds of things have we been saying or doing? I don't generally try to play favorites outside of strategus, when considering who people are or what clan they're in, but of course this game makes fools of all our tempers.
I'm also in an unfortunate position for public relations being an admin and all, but that is the way it has to be. You're bound to rub some folks the wrong way if you have to tell them what (not) to do.
You are working with Saxton? the fuck is wrong with you?
I find this to be a great shame. What off-putting kinds of things have we been saying or doing?
Mala, please.I am still fond of our cavalry moments together when you weren't a dink. I will always cherish those memories of double courser + me team couching you due to touchpad and a bad laptop.
I am still honestly sorry for being part of voting/allowing Kreczor into Chaos at the time. Some ghosts will haunt you forever.
But seriously guys, Canary puts actual effort into posts instead of calling people bundle of stickss or writing short homosexual RP like we do. You gotta respect the motherfucker for that; his posts aren't even pseudointellectual shitposts. The dude really has some good points even if they are a tad biased (just like every factioned persons posts which is damn near everyone)