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Title: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Grimoald on July 08, 2013, 06:38:26 pm
 Could someone tell me how to siege a castle or town in Strategus properly ??




5 archers can destroy a catapult in 2 minutes , so destroying the walls is close to impossible . And why do arrows damage catapults? Where`s the logic ? Buff the health of catapults !!
Ladders are destroyed after 3 hits , so they are shit for siege . So our last  chance to get on the walls is a siege tower ..  but our retarded apostates friends know how to abuse ladders !!


And what about defenders having almost all weapon racks ? That`s big shit , too !!






some exmaples :




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Maybe add  space ships ..so we can fly with the spaceships over the wall.

Give strategus more logic !!
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: KR_Klingenmeister on July 08, 2013, 06:43:05 pm
i was there as well! It was really anoyying seeing people leaving the castle without opening the Gate!
abusing as hell
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Rebelyell on July 08, 2013, 06:43:27 pm
Could someone tell me how to siege a castle or town in Strategus properly ??




5 archers can destroy a catapult in 2 minutes , so destroying the walls is close to impossible . And why do arrows damage catapults? Where`s the logic ? Buff the health of catapults !!
Ladders are destroyed after 3 hits , so they are shit for siege . So our last  chance to get on the walls is a siege tower ..  but our retarded apostates friends know how to abuse ladders !!


2 min huh they are shit archers then







some exmaples :




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Maybe add  space ships ..so we can fly with the spaceships over the wall.

Give strategus more logic !!

2 min huh they are shit archers then

no joke here, catapult is op if you know how to use that


i was there as well! It was really anoyying seeing people leaving the castle without opening the Gate!
abusing as hell

dam first da in strat?
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Grimoald on July 08, 2013, 06:45:59 pm
i was there as well! It was really anoyying seeing people leaving the castle without opening the Gate!
abusing as hell

This is normal
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Silicium on July 08, 2013, 06:46:28 pm
New to strat?
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Johanna on July 08, 2013, 06:53:39 pm
Screenshot

There you see that it is just unfair, that  they can jump out of the castle withouth loosing health and destroying all "Weapone-Ranks" or "Siege-Towers", just do a higher wall!

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Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Osiris on July 08, 2013, 07:00:47 pm
not every castle looks like that :D

I haven't been in a strat siege for a very long time but ALWAYS ALWAYS the catapults could make a breach in the wall.

if memory serves me right 2 or more catapults covered by shieldwalls/siege shields and place at a long range could make short work of a section of wall.


If you only built one catapult try building more.
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 08, 2013, 07:01:44 pm
Ladders are effective if you throw them correctly.

In my diagram, ladder example 1 is you throwing a ladder up to a wall that's straight in front of you.  You should be trying to throw the ladder so the top of the ladder is below the ledge of the wall by a foot or two, so that it makes it hard for the defenders to break it (they either have to use a pike/long spear, or have someone jump onto the ladder). 

Diagram 2 is pretty shitty, but I'm not an artist and wasn't trying to spend a lot of time to make it look 3D.  Imagine the blue wall is directly in front of you and is a "tower".  The grey wall to the right is on your side, and smaller than the blue tower.  You throw a ladder up against the blue tower, it is higher than the grey wall to your right, but far enough out from the wall that the defenders can't break it, yet you can jump from the ladder to the grey wall.  It's also low enough on the blue tower that people on top of the blue tower are unable to break it.

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Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Johammeth on July 08, 2013, 07:05:32 pm
I hate it when castles are highly defensible fortresses with many different means of confounding attackers.
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: vipere on July 08, 2013, 07:11:14 pm
and what about defenders having almost all weapon racks ?
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Grimoald on July 08, 2013, 07:14:41 pm
and what about defenders having almost all weapon racks ?

Thx :) ADDED !
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Osiris on July 08, 2013, 07:27:14 pm
Its usually why taking a castle requires many waves breaking down the defenders numbers and gear ^^

what would be the point of having a castle if it was easy for one army to take?
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Haboe on July 08, 2013, 07:32:08 pm
1) Learn to properly place your ladders.
2) Learn to properly place your catapults and then properly shoot them, i know bobby nails walls to the floor with it, even manages to shoot siegetowers and other catapults with it, all about practice.
3) If you move your siegetower close, prepare to be boarded if you can't steer fast enough.
4) Wepracks was no issue this battle, i made sure we only made 2 of them on our side, should leave you with 3, but if you are gonna consider us retarded in topics like this i might as well build 5 of them in the first minute next time...
5)Why keep your mouth shut in all battles until the first assaulting done by your faction?  :rolleyes:

And last but not least 6, keep the stratdrama in the strategus section of the forum mate  :wink:

Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Rebelyell on July 08, 2013, 07:34:23 pm
1) Learn to properly place your ladders.
2) Learn to properly place your catapults and then properly shoot them, i know bobby nails walls to the floor with it, even manages to shoot siegetowers and other catapults with it, all about practice.
3) If you move your siegetower close, prepare to be boarded if you can't steer fast enough.
4) Wepracks was no issue this battle, i made sure we only made 2 of them on our side, should leave you with 3, but if you are gonna consider us retarded in topics like this i might as well build 5 of them in the first minute next time...
5)Why keep your mouth shut in all battles until the first assaulting done by your faction?  :rolleyes:

And last but not least 6, keep the stratdrama in the strategus section of the forum mate  :wink:

you should tell me about battles like that, I will join for next one to shoot some QQers
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Haboe on July 08, 2013, 07:35:59 pm
For the record, he is a bit pissed about the dissapointing result of their attacks:

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4319
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4302
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: sF_Guardian on July 09, 2013, 12:12:32 am
I smell butthurt, mhhhhhhh...
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Rebelyell on July 09, 2013, 03:13:57 am
I just posted here so kalp can - me again  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Strudog on July 09, 2013, 10:32:39 am
Everything the apostates do is what everyone else does, stop complaining and just fight, assaulting a castle should be hard and take a long time. Thats the way strat is, deal with it.

If you dont like it then dont play (like i do)
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Korgoth on July 09, 2013, 11:08:08 am
For the record, he is a bit pissed about the dissapointing result of their attacks:

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4319
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4302

Bit ironic :D

How did the big offensive on the Shu Han lands go a few months back? Or the attacks on Uxhaul?

How many castles have you successfully taken in the past few months? It is pretty hard to take castles nowadays with the infinite number of tickets and equipment. I'm surprised how you guys are being so arrogant for winning just 2 battles.
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Vovka on July 09, 2013, 11:30:58 am
Everything the apostates do is what everyone else does, stop complaining and just fight, assaulting a castle should be hard and take a long time. Thats the way strat is, deal with it.

If you dont like it then dont play (like i do)
The biggest problem of strat  that all the time you fight  with bugs and not with the players ^^ So assaulting a castle is hard not because it is a castle, and certainly not because the enemy is very smart, but simply because of the fact that the bugs are working on defense  :P
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Silicium on July 09, 2013, 12:21:29 pm
Bit ironic :D

How did the big offensive on the Shu Han lands go a few months back? Or the attacks on Uxhaul?

How many castles have you successfully taken in the past few months? It is pretty hard to take castles nowadays with the infinite number of tickets and equipment. I'm surprised how you guys are being so arrogant for winning just 2 battles.
We attacked villages mostly, and as far as i know we weren't going to take control of the area it was just to cause mayhem and it worked pretty well out.

Yet you don't see us whining about defenders jumping off the house being outside of the second wall on Uxkhal, or the 3 walls circling the town, or about the amount of missile flying at us.
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: bagge on July 09, 2013, 12:33:57 pm
Imo it was a funny (not really, but it is what you make it) battle cause it was an achievement to even make it up the ladder without ranged killing you :P
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Korgoth on July 09, 2013, 01:03:35 pm
Imo it was a funny (not really, but it is what you make it) battle cause it was an achievement to even make it up the ladder without ranged killing you :P

I think I was on the wall the longest out of the attackers when I got up the ladder and stood on that Forward Spawn static mesh thing for like a minute.
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: PanPan on July 09, 2013, 01:17:44 pm
I think I was on the wall the longest out of the attackers when I got up the ladder and stood on that Forward Spawn static mesh thing for like a minute.

haha remember that but then you got killed by a ranged player. What a coincidence.
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Swaggart on July 09, 2013, 06:05:19 pm
What's seige?

Also, whats Strategus?
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Arthur_ on July 09, 2013, 07:26:55 pm
So much HRE and Merc are archers now, great...
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on July 09, 2013, 07:31:36 pm
I think I was on the wall the longest out of the attackers when I got up the ladder and stood on that Forward Spawn static mesh thing for like a minute.

Ah yes then you jumped down and tried to do some jackie chan summersault stab in the back kung fu masterclass.....but you ended up with a bolt in the balls and imminent death
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: Tojo on July 10, 2013, 01:34:31 am
If you plan on using a catapult to blast down a wall then you better be prepared to sacrifice some troops from the battle to protect it. By building your catapult in a good position (hilltop) you can place siege shields and maybe get 4-5 men with shields to protect it while the engineer fires.

For laddering up successfully you need to divide the defender's attention so that atleast some men can make it to the top. To do this simply spread your men out along the wall and have attack groups ready to climb the ladders as soon as they are placed. It is probably best to send 2 shielders and some morning stars/Mauls up 1st to clear the area.

My opinion on Siege towers is that they are very situational. I personally dont like using them to attack because too many players try to move it and once the defenders can get inside it becomes a clusterfuck of mad proportions.

All this being said some castles are just a bitch to capture (Remember the fallen at Dhirim) and take more troops to overtake than others.

If you cant atleast get on the wall s using these methods then you have to look to your mercenaries and soldiers because then they must be screwing around or something.
Title: Re: Strategus Siege !!
Post by: clement42 on July 22, 2013, 08:45:38 pm
 :P