Is this supposed to be funny?
this is fucking genius, you cant even deny that if you are muslim - It´s ithe ideal deterrent for fanatic attacks.
This shit is prevention for muslim-fanaticism induced attacks - it´s basically using their fanaticism against them.Brilliant.
Please explain further on how this is a "prevention for muslim-fanaticism induced attacks".
Okay,
So lets say a fanatic muslim would plan a terroristic attack on the us(Or anywhere for that matter).If you are a fanatic muslim, you will probably want to get into paradise to get your 99 virgins or whatever if you bomb yourself and infidels into nirvana.
So, now lets say this fanatic muslim has heard of those pork bullets - might even be they become widespread enough for that.Obviously, he would stop and consider: What if I get hit with such a bullet and get refused from entering paradise?Outrageous!Suddenly, bombing those western infidels seems not worth the effort.
The genius about this idea is that it uses their twisted, narrow-minded religious beliefs against them.
Ok for a starter, there's nothing in Islam that says you wouldn't go to Paradise because you got shot with a bullet laced with pork, or killed with pig parts or whatever. In fact Muslims are allowed to eat pork in dire situations like in a starvation scenario where there's nothing else to eat, which makes your argument completely useless. It's not going to stop anyone.
Isnt the "come in contact with pork and go to hell" thing something fanatics believe in?It´s obvious normal muslims dont believe in it, it´s ridiculous, but I always thought the fanatics would believe in this kind of bullshit.
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I would like to point out that if they are ignorant of the pork covering, or it wasn't their choice then it doesn't matter a damn. It's only haram if you actively choose to consume it knowingly.
Mind you idiotic terrorists might not know that.
I can garantuee you no one believes this. Not even the most extreme.
Religions are shit, and they act as a setback to human race, I once read an article that it was saying, if the church wasn`t in command from 900 until 1600 AD (Age of Enlightenment) , human race would be a lot more evolved than it is now, but sadly, the pope and the priests back there, had a hard on, on burning people who had the audacity to say something different from the churches saying..
Wiltzu, that reminds me of how some vegans react when they are offered tofu touched with barbecue tongues contaminated with steak.
Few of my rl muslim friends(yes I do have muslim friends..) have said that nowhere in koran it's said that you can't eat pork.
He hath forbidden you only carrion, and blood, and swineflesh, and that which has been immolated to (the name of) any other than God. But he who is driven by necessity, neither craving nor transgressing, it is no sin for him. Lo! God is Forgiving, Merciful.
—[Quran 2:173]
Isn't it more like just a habit that some have taken too far. In a way it's not bad at all, as if you eat raw pork there's a chance you get this bacteria(?) which usually kills you. Also porks don't seem to be the most clean animals there are =D
Still IMO it's idiotic habit, at least in western countries where you won't (at least shouldn't) get this bacteria(?).
Religions are shit, and they act as a setback to human race, I once read an article that it was saying, if the church wasn`t in command from 900 until 1600 AD (Age of Enlightenment) , human race would be a lot more evolved than it is now, but sadly, the pope and the priests back there, had a hard on, on burning people who had the audacity to say something different from the churches saying..
Then why the fuck some of them create a fucking shitstorm if they're offered pork? Few of my rl muslim friends(yes I do have muslim friends..) have said that nowhere in koran it's said that you can't eat pork. Isn't it more like just a habit that some have taken too far. In a way it's not bad at all, as if you eat raw pork there's a chance you get this bacteria(?) which usually kills you. Also porks don't seem to be the most clean animals there are =D
- human race without religion is not possible
Why not?
- especially Judaism and Christianity led to the historical modern thinking we have now in most countries
There's a good reason for that. At that time, church was the only place where smart, hard working students could educate themselves (there were no books outside monasteries and rich folks libraries). Nowadays smart, hard working young people go to universities. Has nothing to do with religious teachings, it's all about people and their hard work.
- there are very strong arguments that Christianity itself helped a lot to separate god from this world or in nietzsches words "killed" him, see Max Webers Disenchantment or secularism in general
Science "killed" god.
- there are also many thesis why this has not happened in the Islamic world or if it is going to happen
It's happening, slowly but surely. Has nothing to do with islamic world, how you call it. It's the same in every less developed country, no matter the religion. In Serbia, at least 80% people firmly believe in God and this country is a shithole by everyone's standards. Less educated people = stronger belief in "god".
Then why the fuck some of them create a fucking shitstorm if they're offered pork? Few of my rl muslim friends(yes I do have muslim friends..) have said that nowhere in koran it's said that you can't eat pork. Isn't it more like just a habit that some have taken too far. In a way it's not bad at all, as if you eat raw pork there's a chance you get this bacteria(?) which usually kills you. Also porks don't seem to be the most clean animals there are =D
Still IMO it's idiotic habit, at least in western countries where you won't (at least shouldn't) get this bacteria(?).
Pork4Life <3
Say: I find not in that which is revealed unto me aught prohibited to an eater that he eat thereof, except it be carrion, or blood poured forth, or swineflesh - for that verily is foul - or the abomination which was immolated to the name of other than Allah. But whoso is compelled (thereto), neither craving nor transgressing, (for him) lo! thy Lord is Forgiving, Merciful. (145)
Insurgents and terrorists would only use these kinds of bullets as propaganda for their cause
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This is so wrong on so many levels. I don't have much time, but:
- human race without religion is not possible
Wars happen for 2 reasons, money and religion matters, Jihads, Crusades, Civil wars, sunnites and shiites, protestants and catholics and I can really go on and on and on. Religion is just another cheap excuse for the big heads, to rule the world.
- especially Judaism and Christianity led to the historical modern thinking we have now in most countries
You make me laugh, 99% of the people who made the biggest inventions were atheists, the church was only good on selling indulgences to illiterate peasants, and burning people on the stake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists_in_science_and_technology
- there are very strong arguments that Christianity itself helped a lot to separate god from this world or in nietzsches words "killed" him, see Max Webers Disenchantment or secularism in general
God never existed, it`s a man made person, just because a book mentions him and jesus, does not mean that they were true people, books tell about hercules, thor, loki, spiderman, batman, etc etc. How are you sure that Batman wasnt real?? Or Hercules back in Ancient Greece didnt do the feats???
Besides, judaism and Christianism , stole things from previous religions, do you want two quick random facts??
12 The gods of olumpys, 12 the students of cheesus, Alexander died at the age of 33, Cheesus died at the same age.
See, with two, random and a bit retarded facts, I put a big question mark in Christianity.
- there are also many thesis why this has not happened in the Islamic world or if it is going to happen
^ I can`t understand what are you trying to say here
I am in no way interested in defending some religious institutions and I am not sure in what I believe myself. But I am very much convinced that knowing of religions in a historical focused way (can't say better) is very important to understand what is going on and people condemning religions in general don't have any knowledge about the matter and humanity in general. Also what Oberyn said in that other thread.
People who doubt religions, are in general a bit more educated than the persons who blindly believe in a religion, I myself was taught in school to believe and don't search, until the day I got in my hands a book talking why religions are the biggest scam ever..
You must be silly. Who do you think kept knowledge alive in those days? Toothless serfs? A few of the nobility?
The church(back in those days) actually pushed for scientific and philosophic advancements. They set up universities and pushed for learning.
Similar to why you're not supposed to eat sword fish because it's riddled with parasites. Many chef's say that if you saw what came out of a sword fish you wouldn't go near it.
There's something we can all agree with, murdering thousands of people is cool if you do it to defend something.Or if you're fighting for money or oil (=freedom), or against communism, then it's even cool to support terrorist right wing parlamilitary groups to overthrow democratically elected goverments.
Or if you're fighting for money or oil (=freedom), or against communism, then it's even cool to support terrorist right wing parlamilitary groups to overthrow democratically elected goverments.
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You make me laugh, 99% of the people who made the biggest inventions were atheists, the church was only good on selling indulgences to illiterate peasants, and burning people on the stake
Sir Isaac Newton, Galileo, Kepler, etc. the list goes on. So maybe do a little more research then just ignoring people because you hate religion.
Sir Isaac Newton, Galileo, Kepler, etc. the list goes on. So maybe do a little more research then just ignoring people because you hate religion.
it's said that you can't eat pork.
I don`t hate religions, I hate the retards that don`t practice what they preach.
The worst about religions is the people who force their own religion upon others, or try to.
There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower. (256)
Yup, sure, there's no compulsion to be a muslim in the Quran, or any of the hadiths. Thank you for opening my eyes Basnak. Of course what the quote really means is that to be proper and follow the "right direction" that is "distinct from error" IS to believe in Allah. It's not compulsory, but if you don't want to be an evil disgusting apostate who is following an erroneous path, you need to be a believer. Yup, no compulsion at all.
It means forcing someone to convert to the Religion is forbidden. Since it wouldn't make any sense, because a person forced to convert would truely not believe and there would be no point in it. You think thats a bad thing?
I can`t understand what are you trying to say here
And there's many religious people that have contributed to science. Georges Lemaître was a Catholic Priest and set the foundation for the Big Bang theory. Muslims developed Algebra and many other things. Gregor Mendel set the foundation to Genetics, which also was a Priest. And then you have many Jews who invented alot of things but were rejected as the authors of their inventions because they were jews.
Without religion this could have happened as well. Or do you really want to claim that if religion wasnt invented, people wouldn't have done any research or stuff?
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but seriously. religion talk on gaming forum ftw!
Just because we`re on a gaming forum, that does not mean that we can`t have other discussions aswell.
Exactly. Just like monotheistic religions in their time, atheism is the next step for humanity. There were far worse things than church, like rules of the tribe or sacrifices to animal gods etc. But now we have better thing than religion and it's called science. Maybe one day we'll find out science was wrong and someone will come up with something even better, who knows. I can already feel the wrath of many scientists, just because I said science could be wrong. Many of them aren't much different than religious nutjobs, don't you agree? :wink:
I agree with bloody nine. It is widely believed by modern philosophers that atheism is the logical step further after monotheism and personally I think it makes sense. It is much easier to stop believing in the existence of something that cannot be detected. If we still had a god of thunder and no other explanation of thunder, thunder would be proof of its existence.I've a Thunder god, suck it!
Science is the new organized religion!
Only it is not in obscure Latin anymore , its in math,physics and statistics.. equally hard to grasp for the common peasants.
With all their priests chanting about fermions, hadrons ,bosons,quantummechanics,antimatter .. Global warming.. the list is long.
99.99% of people can not possibly verify most advanced scientific claims for themselves, same as religious people can not verifiy the existance of any god or supernatural beings.
So we trust in the scientists/priest, as the peasant of old did.
I always liked this one from Arthur C. Clark:
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
/trolololololo
According to the hadiths, Muslims are allowed to consume pork if absolutely necessary, for example when starving (or getting shot I guess). Allah is merciful.
According to the hadiths, Muslims are allowed to consume pork if absolutely necessary, for example when starving (or getting shot I guess). Allah is merciful.
Like technically Pagans are forgiven by God because they are most likely 'ignorant' of Islam, despite the fact they worship multiple god's ect.
Please explain further on how this is a "prevention for muslim-fanaticism induced attacks".