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Title: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Tanken on June 20, 2013, 01:52:12 am
So we were playing on NA_1 earlier, and an admin named "my old friendottini" (yes I know it's a pasta) decides to start harassing me and possibly other players, I don't know, he was in dead chat a lot and I wasn't.

However, my original point at jesting towards his name is that constantly I see players with hardly even borderline offensive names asked to change their name. Yet this admin, though it is a Pasta, knows full-well that their name could be construed as offensive and is most likely the reason they chose this specific name. Why is it we allow admins to have this power, and they are never held to the fire for their actions? I know plenty of reputable admins on NA 1 and this does not necessarily apply to them, but when you've got a server with 80 people in it and you're an admin running around with that name, and harassing players in chat for pointing it out--that leaves a bad taste in most of the playerbase's mouth.

Get some new admins, devs. You asked us to donate $65+ to your "game", now show that you care about your community and whom you select as admin because obviously there's some issues here.

Me pointing out his name:
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Him threatening to TK me (and then he attempted to, but missed)
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Next map, still continues harassing..
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I'm sure I'll get flamed and down-voted for sharing this, but fuck me man, am I the only one who is tired of shit like this ruining everyone's fun in this Mod?
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Duster on June 20, 2013, 01:55:20 am
Someone must have pissed is his corflakes pasta this morning  :|
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Smoothrich on June 20, 2013, 02:26:41 am
Its Tydeus, he also sold dozens of heirlooms for real life dollars, and permabanned someone for running in to die once on NA_1, what do you expect. By the way, I heard M:BG is canceled anyways, don't even use the money thing as an excuse. Should probably ask for refunds or you'll just be ripped off, lol
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Gristle on June 20, 2013, 02:28:05 am
How did this guy get admin powers? We don't need a sperging admin.

Also, I don't think it's fair to call out all admins just because you have a problem with one.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Legs on June 20, 2013, 02:34:59 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thin_Blue_Line
AKA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miVoe7U6Lx4

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Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Artyem on June 20, 2013, 03:06:42 am
Reminds me of the admin named Adam_Lanza_Fan.

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Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: betard_lulz on June 20, 2013, 03:07:24 am
can we fucking ban this bundle of sticks? remove admin at least fucking badmin abuse all over the place
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Tydeus on June 20, 2013, 03:08:04 am
You're dense. It was a joke because your ignorance(I'm just going to assume it's ignorance as the only other alternative requires you to be an idiot) was irritating. I also have/had the characters: Farfalle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farfalle), Bigoli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigoli), Campanelle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campanelle), Gigli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigli), Bucatini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucatini), Croxetti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croxetti), Angel_Hair, and others that I'm sure I have forgotten. It's just the theme I chose to use for my alts nearly 2 years ago.

Please pull your head out of your anus.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Malaclypse on June 20, 2013, 03:10:19 am
The man likes pasta- the sentence... is death.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Tanken on June 20, 2013, 03:13:00 am
You can try and think of a horrible defense all you want Tydeus, but the fact remains you were out of line, and your name can be construed as offensive. I've seen names force-changed for much less than that, and your following hardly even provoked responses were entirely uncalled for coming from an Admin who is elected to serve as a pillar of the community and uphold the rules. You also failed to do anything in terms of admin of the server even after being asked many times following this incident, especially pertaining to removal of Dr_Zoidberg from the server after he continuously team-wounded and team-killed.


Your days of being a spergadmin I hope are over after this incident, but I doubt it. You'll most likely be able to continue on badmouthing players, having borderline offensive names, and banning people after they leech for 1 minute.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Matey on June 20, 2013, 03:14:14 am
Anyone remember dear ol BigBlackShlong? great admin he was.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Tydeus on June 20, 2013, 03:19:26 am
You can try and think of a horrible defense all you want Tydeus, but the fact remains you were out of line, and your name can be construed as offensive. I've seen names force-changed for much less than that, and your following hardly even provoked responses were entirely uncalled for coming from an Admin who is elected to serve as a pillar of the community and uphold the rules. You also failed to do anything in terms of admin of the server even after being asked many times following this incident, especially pertaining to removal of Dr_Zoidberg from the server after he continuously team-wounded and team-killed.


Your days of being a spergadmin I hope are over after this incident, but I doubt it. You'll most likely be able to continue on badmouthing players, having borderline offensive names, and banning people after they leech for 1 minute.
You're seriously an idiot if you think something like having the name "my old friendottini" and jokingly saying I would tk you, would get me deadmined. As to the Dr Zoidberg thing, which actually is a legitimate complaint, I don't recall anyone even using i chat about him or any teamwound for that matter while I was playing.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Kaoklai on June 20, 2013, 03:44:33 am
I'm not particularly friendly with Tydeus, but this is stupid.  You picked an internet fight thinking you had moral outrage on your side (lol), but it turns out the man just likes his pasta. 

p.s. the only good admin in this game is Aristeia (who? exactly.)
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Gmnotutoo on June 20, 2013, 04:03:31 am
I voted yes for more admins.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Equal on June 20, 2013, 04:08:50 am

Next map, still continues harassing..
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..Did you really take offense to this? Obvious trolling by Tydeus
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on June 20, 2013, 04:09:28 am
I think you should be able to have any name you wish as well as the ability to say anything you wish, excluding divulging real-life information about someone without their consent. It'd be ideal for players to be able to permanently mute people client-side so they wouldn't have to do it each map, and for players to be able to "mute" names that they find offensive, be it through a word-filter or simply replacing the objectionable name with a blank space or pre-determined text like "i chose a naughty name".

Not many people agree with me, though. I wouldn't use the privilege to say controversial things more than very rarely, because such a thing is pretty rude, but I strongly feel that one should be free to be a rude, obnoxious, hostile cunt if one chooses.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Tydeus on June 20, 2013, 04:14:30 am
..Did you really take offense to this? Obvious trolling by Tydeus
It actually wasn't even related to tanken, I was making fun of someone that used the word 'nerd' as an insult while playing a very nerdy game. This pretty much sums up the whole thread, honestly.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: ArysOakheart on June 20, 2013, 04:22:12 am
..Did you really take offense to this? Obvious trolling by Tydeus

Should admins be allowed to troll players? What kind of message does that send to players new to the community?
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: LordLargos on June 20, 2013, 04:30:29 am
You're dense. It was a joke because your ignorance(I'm just going to assume it's ignorance as the only other alternative requires you to be an idiot) was irritating. I also have/had the characters: Farfalle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farfalle), Bigoli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigoli), Campanelle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campanelle), Gigli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigli), Bucatini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucatini), Croxetti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croxetti), Angel_Hair, and others that I'm sure I have forgotten. It's just the theme I chose to use for my alts nearly 2 years ago.

Please pull your head out of your anus.

No spaghetti therefore argument is invalid.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: partyboy on June 20, 2013, 05:34:44 am
You could always try to ask the devs to tighten up the rules on offensive names/language, but they're too busy putting on their grandfathers' SS uniforms in their basement muttering about something rising again.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: partyboy on June 20, 2013, 05:35:45 am
Like when they say no n-words allowed, they aren't talking about the word being off-limits.  You'd know this if you play NA 1 and see how often it's thrown around.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Artyem on June 20, 2013, 07:08:48 am
It isn't that it's necessarily 'offensive' as much as it is just poor conduct for an admin.  This is the same issue people had with Smoothrich; when he was an admin I really didn't care for his humor, but now that he's just another player I find him to be amusing.

As Arys said, what kind of impression does it make on our new players?  I don't think it makes a good one at all when admins contradict the rules they attempt to enforce.

EDIT:

No, but really, who is/was Adam_Lanza_Fan?
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Paul on June 20, 2013, 07:31:58 am
I always joked about NA being special but now it's a fact. Being offended by pasta is kinda wow. Maybe start a petition that his names get changed to burgers because he actually has all kind of (about a year old) axis of evil pasta alts. And no, my old friendottini is not the oldest of them.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Legs on June 20, 2013, 07:33:17 am
Like when they say no n-words allowed, they aren't talking about the word being off-limits.  You'd know this if you play NA 1 and see how often it's thrown around.

Players with the usernames "Digger Nicks" and "A Numb Digger" have been banned because their names could have been construed to contain hate speech. I personally have witnessed several cases of players being muted or banned for saying things like "sup nigga" to their friends, when they're clearly joking and actual racism is clearly absent.

The bottom line is that some admins enforce the strictest possible interpretation of the rules while completely avoiding responsibility themselves, and that this kind of hypocritical behavior is obviously wrong.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Paul on June 20, 2013, 07:36:00 am
No, but really, who is/was Adam_Lanza_Fan?

Who do you think Adam_Lanza_Fan was? Protip, he posted in this thread, is a giant my old friendottini and was "retired" from the admin business for his exploits.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: partyboy on June 20, 2013, 07:36:04 am
no but you see it ended with an -a, not an -er, clearly a different word
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: raccoonlord on June 20, 2013, 07:57:12 am
I always joked about NA being special but now it's a fact. Being offended by pasta is kinda wow. Maybe start a petition that his names get changed to burgers because he actually has all kind of (about a year old) axis of evil pasta alts. And no, my old friendottini is not the oldest of them.

It's not necessarily that people take offense to it, but the fact that admins continuously ban people for indecent names yet can have an obvious troll name like "my old friendattini"
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on June 20, 2013, 07:58:47 am
I remember angel_hair, never knew that was an alt.

If your pasta name offends people, is it really that hard to pick a different variety and make a name change? I'm a fan of thick cut pastas like tagliatelle and farfalloni. It's a lot easier to get that perfect al dente texture than with thin pasta.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Tydeus on June 20, 2013, 08:40:58 am
If your pasta name offends people, is it really that hard to pick a different variety and make a name change?
Difficult? It would take me a total of 15 seconds. Will I? Not unless chadz or cmp demand such(Ha Ha!). I've actually become quite irritated at how eager everyone in this thread is to censor things. Yes, the word contains the sequence of characters "my old friend" and looks similar to "bundle of sticks", but to censor my old friendottini is to censor the word black in spanish and many other legitimate words. So I refuse.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Tanken on June 20, 2013, 08:49:31 am
I always joked about NA being special but now it's a fact. Being offended by pasta is kinda wow. Maybe start a petition that his names get changed to burgers because he actually has all kind of (about a year old) axis of evil pasta alts. And no, my old friendottini is not the oldest of them.

The whole point of this thread isn't necessarily about his obvious troll name. Look at his response to my simple mention of his name and the following comments. Not to mention that his whole demeanor towards other players in the separate chat.

Also, Tydeus, I reported it twice in i chat, both times while it was happening.

I think it's quite evident by the outcry of most members posting on this thread that what you did was wrong, and that your name, while it is, and as I have made clear is Pasta, you as an admin and a long time player knew the exact risk and the exact reasoning behind why you chose my old friendottini.

You can't cry poor-me when someone calls you out on it. Had you simply said "It's a pasta joke" instead of "Fuck you." "You're a fucking dimwit." "Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck" or whatever the hell you said, I would have let it go and most others would have as well. However, your demeanor towards me, and other players was entirely unacceptable. You are an admin, and stay admin, by the support of your peers and this community. I like how you mentioned how you'll stay an admin since chadz and CMP have to say otherwise--you're basically hiring behind your power and not admitting to any wrong doing.


Shame on you Tydeus, you were more well-respected than this, at least by me. But your behavior was, and is entirely unacceptable. Step up, or step the fuck down because there are a lot better individuals in NA that could fill your role and do it 100x better.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: EyeBeat on June 20, 2013, 08:56:13 am
Clone me 14 times and you got the best admin team ever.

Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Tydeus on June 20, 2013, 09:07:32 am
Shame on you Tydeus, you were more well-respected than this, at least by me.
Then don't go down the easy road by taking things at face value and make assumptions and instead, start analyzing the situation properly, perhaps by questioning the intent.

I like how you mentioned how you'll stay an admin since chadz and CMP have to say otherwise--you're basically hiring behind your power and not admitting to any wrong doing.
I mentioned that because we have had similar discussions about the word "black in spanish" due to past bans dealing with "borderline offensive" matters. So I believe I know very well what the outcome there would be.

As to the statements made in game, I never bothered to look and see what team you were on, because it was a joke. I would never intentionally tk simply because someone thought "my old friendottini" was offensive or assumed that it meant my old friend. Look at my track record, I use this kind of language playfully with everyone, and I don't tk unless your name is Xol. Sure, they're my words and therefore it's my responsibility, but this idea that I was in a bad mood and thus was being aggressive, couldn't be further from the truth. It's more like the opposite where you began by insulting me with the assumption about the name. Which changes things significantly. It puts you as the aggressor, and as soon as you realize what you were insinuating with the statement that started this whole thing, the sooner you will realize you're not standing on any sort of moral high-ground.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on June 20, 2013, 09:46:23 am
Why not rename your character to pasta_e_my old friendioli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasta_e_my old friendioli)?
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Tydeus on June 20, 2013, 10:00:48 am
Because I chose the names of pasta, not the names of dishes which consist of pasta, as my theme? Because the alternative is much less aesthetically appealing? Because I like the idea of single word character names? Because I would have to rename all of my other characters? Because it would mean there is something actually wrong with the name or word. Because that would mean that I had succumb to an inferior, irrational line of thinking.

He's arguing cultural intolerance with cultural intolerance.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Vibe on June 20, 2013, 10:35:11 am
ITT oversensitive internet people

PS I'm not sure how cmp will handle you hating his nation's dishes. I mean... they really like my old friendottinis there.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Micah on June 20, 2013, 12:15:33 pm
ITT oversensitive internet people
I am going to have to disagree here, since do not feel that this is about sensitivity of players. I do however feel this is about how an admin represents the community standards in the game, and this what they are : representatives of the community with tools to enforce and ensure a certain behavioral norms on servers, and thus should act accordingly on an adequate responsibility level - as an positive role model, at least in the majority of the time on servers - with naturally comming different behavioral restrictions than common player folks, since seeming is pretty much being in the internet.
Reading that chatlog i must admit that i did indeed find his choice of words rather strong, offensive, even intimidating (particulary for an admin) against a rather mild formulated player statement ( which would not make it feel more wrong if the player statement was very childish or rude ). Unless i may have missunderstood some very humorous context or linguistic detais - which is what Tydeus seems to be claiming (english is not my main language) - which could turn the overall picture around in that situation, it does indeed look somewhat offset to me.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Joker86 on June 20, 2013, 01:04:20 pm
I guess I will stay somewhat neutral in this discussion.

Indeed the name "my old friendottini" seems misleading, and most people, me included, would think that it was chosen because of the first half of that word. And you can't expect people to know that your other names are pasta as well. And even this doesn't sound like a real excuse for it, because of all those hundreds of pasta types the Italians have, you somehow picked (among others) my old friendottini, and you can't tell me you were not aware of the implication this name has for English speaking people.

About that reaction to Tanken's statement: meh, it's trolling. I wouldn't say admins should be allowed to troll, but since the devs, inlcuding chadz and cmp, are the biggest trolls themselves, I fear we just have to accept a certain level of trolling in this community. But to be honest, I don't see it that tragic.

Since I understand Tank Burner's point, I guess my next nickname will be W.P. Hitler. He was a nephew of albert Hitler and was serving in the US Navy during WWII. He definitely was no Nazi, so no offense there. If people are supposed to know all kinds of pasta or the themes admins use for naming their characters, they can also be supposed to know the relatives of Adolf Hitler. I suppose it's the admin's problem then dealing with all the reports.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Kafein on June 20, 2013, 03:00:02 pm
As I see it, people are complaining that players that did nothing wrong are getting muted/kicked/banned for no reason whenever they say things that could be interpreted as racism by someone that wants to see it everywhere (read : lunatics like partyboy or smoothrich). Then when they see any admin with a similarly "borderline" name, they immediately assume it's because the admin hivemind applies a double standard.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: betard_lulz on June 20, 2013, 03:05:11 pm
As I see it, people are complaining that players that did nothing wrong are getting muted/kicked/banned for no reason whenever they say things that could be interpreted as racism by someone that wants to see it everywhere (read : lunatics like partyboy or smoothrich). Then when they see any admin with a similarly "borderline" name, they immediately assume it's because the admin hivemind applies a double standard.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: EyeBeat on June 20, 2013, 03:07:28 pm
I do however feel this is about how an admin represents the community standards in the game

I had to change my name to become admin.  But we all have to grow up at some point... :)

If I ever make an alt.  I am going to name him Baked Ziti.  No underlying meaning to it.  It just sounds delicious.

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Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 20, 2013, 04:32:21 pm
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Outrage meter is petering

I've had people construe what I type in game as me being angry, but I'm literally never angry or upset, I'm always in a good mood if I'm playing cRPG, or I'm not playing it.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: dreadnok on June 20, 2013, 04:46:15 pm
Don't even try it tank burner. You fucked up not knowing what my old friendotini is. Although my old friendotini told me to kill myself cause I jokingly called someone a nerd. Endpoint is: your both jerkoffs
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Johammeth on June 20, 2013, 04:50:52 pm
People expect more of you when you hold a position of power.

That's just the way the world works.

Like it or not, your admin privileges make you a leader in this community.  Your actions set standards of acceptable behavior and influence the game experience of everybody on the server.

-When an admin bans an intentional teamkiller, he lets everybody know that such behavior is unacceptable. This reduces the behavior and makes the game better for everyone
-When an admin is antagonistic, hurling insults and threatening to kill teammates, he lets everybody know that such behavior is acceptable. Others follow suit and the game just becomes unpleasant.

This isn't about censorship.
This isn't about suppressing your love for the starches of Italian cuisine.
This isn't about whether or not your choice of name is used to mask offensive language.

It's about holding an admin to a higher standard of behavior so that he is a positive influence on the community.

After all, what is an admin's job if not to improve the game experience of players on his server?
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: dreadnok on June 20, 2013, 04:52:19 pm
It actually wasn't even related to tanken, I was making fun of someone that used the word 'nerd' as an insult while playing a very nerdy game. This pretty much sums up the whole thread, honestly.


It was me you asshole. And that was the irony of calling zoidberg a nerd. Apparently after they make you an admin the remove your funnybone
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: dreadnok on June 20, 2013, 04:55:04 pm
Quote from: partyboy link=topic=50797.msg808833#msg808833 date=13716992.
You could always try to ask the devs to tighten up the rules on offensive names/language, but they're too busy putting on their grandfathers' SS uniforms in their basement muttering about something rising again.


Ya good point. Your crying about too many rules but want more added. Also  misconstrued is an error on the part of the person who construed. Nobody has to give a fuck you have no idea what a name means
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Swaggart on June 20, 2013, 05:13:48 pm
Wasn't Tanken the one who got super duper butthurt when Miley said some shit about him too?

People who get offended on the internet should get off the internet.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: betard_lulz on June 20, 2013, 05:18:53 pm
EU should get off the internet.
yes, yes, we know that.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Swaggart on June 20, 2013, 05:26:47 pm
But then we can't snoop on them. Can't trust those tricksy hobbits EU.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: betard_lulz on June 20, 2013, 05:33:36 pm
But then we can't snoop on them. Can't trust those tricksy hobbits EU.
While we cant trust the hobbits to run the shire without good ol America to finance their stupidity I can tell you what is going on at any given time in the worst country of EU. The state of France is surrendering state of England is having tea and crumpets and the state of Russia is plotting to spread their BS for the people policitics which is really hey if we're all equal we will all suffer with a few at the very tip top controlling everything. But I digress. as for the rest of the states in EU they dont really matter cause they are all so small and haven't ever done much.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Kafein on June 20, 2013, 05:35:40 pm
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this can't be good
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: betard_lulz on June 20, 2013, 05:41:34 pm
it is a good point though. we've got badmins running around like tydeus abusing the double standard that exists between players and admins.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on June 20, 2013, 07:43:20 pm
Time to make dessert themed character names.

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It's NOT racist! If you think this name is anything other than an ice cream bar, you are a chocolate chip cookie!
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Artyem on June 20, 2013, 09:15:27 pm
Time to make dessert themed character names.

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It's NOT racist! If you think this name is anything other than an ice cream bar, you are a chocolate chip cookie!

This is a pretty golden example.  I can only imagine what would happen to a player if their name was 'Nogger_Black'.

I'll say it again though, no one is offended by his pasta name, some of us are confused as to how an admin could have a name that's so easily misconstrued.  I've seen people with names much less severe get banned, and personally I think that the easily misinterpreted underlying to the name "bundle of stickstini" is why Tydeus chose it.

Not to mention his behavior in game, which is completely unacceptable for an admin.  Someone else said it on the last page, but your job as an admin isn't just to ban people or make changes in the game, it's to set an example for the rest of the community.  TKing, let alone threatening to TK (even jokingly) is not something the community should feel is okay to do.  The incessant name calling and trolling is again, something that isn't going to help the community in the slightest, you're only setting a poor example for everyone else to follow.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Tanken on June 20, 2013, 09:51:20 pm
Wasn't Tanken the one who got super duper butthurt when Miley said some shit about him too?

People who get offended on the internet should get off the internet.

I like how 2 years later, this will still haunt me. Yet Miley received a ban for saying it because it was real life information, as others have received bans for saying.


I've made my case Tydeus. Nothing you said was taken by the server as playful gestures, no matter how you try to spin that web. The only person on your side the entire time was Dreadnaught, which, is a nobody anyway.

I hope for your sake you straighten up and realize what you say, and display in game has an impact on the community and it's up to you to uphold the rules and standards that are meant to be in place--not weasel your way around them with borderline offensive names and harassment of other players. My argument was never "moral high ground vs. moral high ground" as you seemed to point out a few times. If that's what you thought this was about, you are ignorant. This whole thread is about YOU and YOUR actions and YOUR words that were said and the position YOU hold which you think gives you a shield to stand behind.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Matey on June 20, 2013, 10:10:56 pm
I like how 2 years later, this will still haunt me. Yet Miley received a ban for saying it because it was real life information, as others have received bans for saying.


I've made my case Tydeus. Nothing you said was taken by the server as playful gestures, no matter how you try to spin that web. The only person on your side the entire time was Dreadnaught, which, is a nobody anyway.

I hope for your sake you straighten up and realize what you say, and display in game has an impact on the community and it's up to you to uphold the rules and standards that are meant to be in place--not weasel your way around them with borderline offensive names and harassment of other players. My argument was never "moral high ground vs. moral high ground" as you seemed to point out a few times. If that's what you thought this was about, you are ignorant. This whole thread is about YOU and YOUR actions and YOUR words that were said and the position YOU hold which you think gives you a shield to stand behind.

Only YOU Can prevent Forum Fires!
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Swaggart on June 20, 2013, 10:19:27 pm
blah blah


I've made my case Tydeus. Nothing you said was taken by the server as playful gestures, no matter how you try to spin that web. The only person on your side the entire time was Dreadnaught, which, is a nobody anyway.

blah blah.

And you're a somebody? Is that it? You feel like you're above other members and because you're a somebody, you decided to make a thread about being slighted?

This has fuck all to do with how the community represents itself. It has much more to do with how butthurt you are.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Micah on June 20, 2013, 10:33:35 pm
it is a good point though. we've got badmins running around like tydeus abusing the double standard that exists between players and admins.
We are also hundreds of hot-headed, drama-loving heroes with a latent anti-authority tendency running around on servers for way to long, accumulating steam from getting killed by another OP-class :wink:. We are people, who tend to get way to involved in online-gaming-worlds, often forgetting why we are playing in the first place, giving us the nerdy laugh at ourselfs a few days later  :mrgreen:
Which is why imo this case can not and should not be treated as an precedence for an badmin-witch-hunt. It might be still prove usefull as an opportunity to reassess oneself's  attitude to the game and towards other gamers, who are not so much unlike oneself   :o
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 20, 2013, 10:42:12 pm
As I see it, people are complaining that players that did nothing wrong are getting muted/kicked/banned for no reason whenever they say things that could be interpreted as racism by someone that wants to see it everywhere (read : lunatics like partyboy or smoothrich). Then when they see any admin with a similarly "borderline" name, they immediately assume it's because the admin hivemind applies a double standard.
Replace Smoothrich with Shik or BADPLAYER.

Also this isn't the 20th century, my old friend isn't much of a hateword anymore, grow the fuck up Tanken, what's even more funny about this shit is that I don't recall seeing one actual homosexual guy complain about the usage of the word my old friend, it's always smug white straight male retards who think they're the best fucking thing in existence, that complain about racism or sexism or homophobia.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Elindor on June 20, 2013, 10:54:34 pm
As pointless as this thread is, one thing is true : we, the cRPG community suck!  :twisted:

Some of us just suck more than others.
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 20, 2013, 10:58:19 pm
Hey I like people who suck, I actively seek them out..why do people say it like it's a bad thing?
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Elindor on June 20, 2013, 10:59:37 pm
Hey I like people who suck, I actively seek them out..why do people say it like it's a bad thing?

Different kind of suck Huseby....   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: NA Admins These Days...
Post by: Tanken on June 20, 2013, 11:13:20 pm
And you're a somebody? Is that it? You feel like you're above other members and because you're a somebody, you decided to make a thread about being slighted?

This has fuck all to do with how the community represents itself. It has much more to do with how butthurt you are.

I'm not butthurt at all, I'm pointing out that the admin issues with Tydeus. I'm no one special, but I'll be damned if I let this mod go to shit any more than it already has. There is no excuse for what Tydeus did or is displaying, but I'm tired of being upset over spilled milk.

I've already made my point, and it's evident that a large majority of the community agrees with me and has demonstrated support of what I have shown. As I said in the beginning of the thread, I expected to be flamed. I have no problem with that, as that is all that has came from you in this thread with nothing productive to add or mention.

Believe it or not, there is a large population of cRPG players that are not trolls, are respectable people, and have grown at least one pubic hair. However, as of lately, that number is dwindling and we are now reaching the point where it is acceptable for Admins to troll and harass players and go without any sort of prosecution. If you can't open an eye to that, then there is something serious wrong with this community and it's going downhill fast.



Locking thread simply because it has reached a stalemate and there's no reason to keep reiterating my point over and over to have what I say picked apart and used against me, as opposed to focusing on the point of the thread and the accusations being made and agreed upon.