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Title: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: rustyspoon on June 06, 2013, 06:02:32 am
NA friends, something has come to my attention lately that made me think that NA needs a public service announcement. I am referring of course, to how prevalent the Longsword is among 2h players. If you take a look around a server sometime, you will notice that the vast majority of 2-handers are using the Longsword or maybe even the Heavy Bastard Sword.

Being CRPG players, we know that people only choose gear for the looks and not because of stats. (Which isn't even an issue in this case, as we all know that the Longsword is terrible.) Still though, that didn't answer my question as to why it is so popular. And then, it hit me. Obviously the average NA 2-hander doesn't know that other swords exist! And that is what this public service announcement is all about.

So let me tell you friends, you are in for quite a surprise! Upon looking in the CRPG store, you will be happy to discover that there is an entire section entirely devoted to 2-handed weapons! There are such weapons as the Danish Greatsword (named after the pastry) and the plain old Great Sword. (You know it's good 'cause it says so in the name.)

Now that you know all the wonderful variety that 2-handed weapons provide, feel free to go ahead and explore all your new options.

Now you know...and knowing is half the battle.

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Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: BlindGuy on June 06, 2013, 06:05:22 am
I endorse this PSA. I would also like to point out: 2handed area of the shop really DOES have something for everyone; strapped for cash? or flush in the green? Always find the aproprietly priced item in 2handed shop. 2handers: always easymode, w/e the cost!
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: betard_lulz on June 06, 2013, 06:40:29 am
2h is hard.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Gmnotutoo on June 06, 2013, 06:49:25 am
I chose superior Japanese steel.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Malaclypse on June 06, 2013, 06:52:28 am
I feel the same way, man. Not enough OG's using the two-handed swords held in both hands while at rest, not even that many Goedendag users among the bastard-fans.

Perhaps most maddening of all is the number of people who use bastard-class weapons without having even a single point evident in shield skill, depriving themselves of massive utility the weapons are built around- I'm not even saying to be used with the shield at the same time, though the Goedendag does have absurd reach, just the ability to defend against ranged as a 2-hander.

I've heard the argument that people are using the Longsword/HBS due to the ability of most players to block on a consistent basis, but that implies that Longsword/HBS are that much faster where they're more difficult to block than say, a Sword of War or Danish Greatsword.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Earthdforce on June 06, 2013, 06:57:11 am
I chose superior Japanese steel.
Which blade would you be speaking of?
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on June 06, 2013, 09:47:41 am
I have only dipped my foot into playing 2H as a class, but I always felt like the larger 2H swords are best used like 2 direction polearms unless you are fighting 1v1. The side swings will only glance off people to your side, or hit teamates. Using a shorter 2H weapon makes it much easier to use all 4 directions in a clustered fight.

That said, I wish more people would use the studded war club, goadendag, bar mace, and iron long mace. They are a lot of fun, and the knockdown helps your teamates out a lot. Don't forget to yell HOME RUN when you get a kill.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on June 06, 2013, 07:09:46 pm
I recently got a +3 Two Handed Sword and I'm surprised more people don't use it. Very high damage, good reach, and very good speed for it's size. Not to mention a very sexy model. I actually prefer it over the Longsword/HBS.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Kafein on June 06, 2013, 07:22:17 pm
I prefer the claymore over the GS because 43c
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 06, 2013, 07:23:31 pm
When I made a 2h alt I choose the Longsword for it's stats...it was the best 2h sword (IMO).  I'd also use the bar mace and great sword.

GS and LS are both 37c btw kafein
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on June 06, 2013, 07:26:04 pm
The Great Sword has the sexiest model of any two hand in the game imo. My precious.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Kafein on June 06, 2013, 07:30:59 pm
When I made a 2h alt I choose the Longsword for it's stats...it was the best 2h sword (IMO).  I'd also use the bar mace and great sword.

GS and LS are both 37c btw kafein

Don't get me wrong all the 2h swords are amazing weapons, but if you are going to use a big one, might as well take one that hurts a lot on swings. I own a +3 longsword myself, and I think it's the second best general purpose 2h, very slightly behind the HBS.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: dreadnok on June 06, 2013, 07:45:28 pm
2h makes. Sub-par players actually descent
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: dreadnok on June 06, 2013, 07:50:47 pm
I have only dipped my foot into playing 2H as a class, but I always felt like the larger 2H swords are best used like 2 direction polearms unless you are fighting 1v1. The side swings will only glance off people to your side, or hit teamates. Using a shorter 2H weapon makes it much easier to use all 4 directions in a clustered fight.

That said, I wish more people would use the studded war club, goadendag, bar mace, and iron long mace. They are a lot of fun, and the knockdown helps your teamates out a lot. Don't forget to yell HOME RUN when you get a kill.


Oh stop the madness. They're all cheap. Between helicopter swings, knockdown down almost every hit and how easy they are to spam
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Fips on June 06, 2013, 08:05:39 pm
Masterwork Bastard Sword, because spam.  8-)
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 06, 2013, 08:14:46 pm
I'm part of the murican master race

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Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Elindor on June 06, 2013, 08:18:35 pm
Actually, I chose the Longsword among other reasons (mind you a long long time ago) because you can maneuver it in small cramped spaces and in crowds because of its relatively short length - where longer swords tended to get stuck more. 

I have often considered a Two Handed Sword, but I'm not sure the trade off's are worth it.  It gains a little length and 1 dmg but loses 3 speed (and actually it has 1 less dmg on pierce).

As far as 2h in general...I like the versatility.  Plus seems there's more pole arm and 1h's now than 2h so the "in thing" is always in flux.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Phew on June 06, 2013, 08:22:26 pm
People I've never even heard of are frequently landing double hits on me with Longswords despite the fact that I myself use a 99 speed 1h sword, thanks to the absurdness of hiltslashing. Basically, as soon as any noob figures out that strafing+turning left while executing a right swing has a high likelihood of landing before your opponent's next swing, it's all they do.

Before everyone gets all l2p on me, I often encounter people using 102+ speed 1h weapons, and I can't recall ever being hit out of turn by one of those (Rondel excluded). I'm sure it can be done, but scrubs can pull it off with the Longsword/HBS.

Like Dread said, there is no other weapon that enables bad players to perform as well as the longsword.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Gurnisson on June 06, 2013, 08:28:04 pm
Like Dread said, there is no other weapon that enables bad players to perform as well as the longsword.

Elite Scimitar and scrubscarl shield
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Elindor on June 06, 2013, 08:30:53 pm
I guess I don't see as many LS/HBS users as you guys do...I don't know. 

I see lots of 1h/shields, polearms, LOTS of katanas and miadao's, some claymores/GS, and some LS/HBS.  But I'm not running around going "OMG LS EVERYWHERE!"

Not to mention, I do not see tons of people topping scoreboards with LS/HBS.  I usually do*, but most of the other people at the top of the scoreboard use the weapons previously mentioned. 

And actually a lot of times I get sick of the LS cause I need more dmg and pull out the MORNINGSTAR!  :twisted:
Love that thing.

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Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Winterly on June 06, 2013, 08:36:18 pm
The reason I chose HBS over GS (have both) is because as a flanker (aka annoying bitch behind you hitting and running) speed is essential and with only 113 WPF, the larger swords are too slow to harass well. In addition, I'm not a very good player so the faster swords let me land more hits on average albeit doing less damage.

I guess I don't see as many LS/HBS users as you guys do...I don't know. 

I see lots of 1h/shields, polearms, LOTS of katanas and miadao's, some claymores/GS, and some LS/HBS.  But I'm not running around going "OMG LS EVERYWHERE!"

There are some of us, but definitely not as many as OP implies. TBH I can't think of any dedicated LS/HBS users other than maybe Miley (who doesn't play much) and AngryBumblebee who consistently top the scoreboards.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Legs on June 06, 2013, 08:53:55 pm
A lot of people like the longsword because it's such a practical well-rounded weapon. It has decent length, decent speed, and decent damage. None of its stats are really outstanding, but none of them are really bad either. It's short enough to fight with in groups and close quarters, and you can even use it with a shield if you want so that you don't have to worry as much when you're chasing down archers. I know that sometimes I like to bring a practice shield when there's a lot of ranged players on the server, and while it's not a huge help it's still nice to have. I see the longsword as kind of a plain standard-issue 2h sword. Nothing special, but it gets the job done.

With that said, I agree that it would be nice to see a little more variety. There are a lot of axes and blunt weapons that are actually really good but are underused. Maybe if the 'unbalanced' tags were removed from some of them people would use them more. The relative damage of some of the greatswords is also pretty low when you look at how much slower they are. Of course, if you buffed any of the underused 2h weapons it may upset the delicate cRPG ecosystem and cause a never-ending tide of '2h heroes' to sweep across the land, hiltslashing everything in their way.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 06, 2013, 08:57:25 pm
I just consider 2h swords in general to be the "middle of the road" on all categories (not the longest, not the fastest, not the strongest) and that's why they make good weapons.   I think that's why most people go 2h, is for the swords, so that's why a lot of other 2h weapons get unused. 
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Phew on June 06, 2013, 08:58:41 pm
Elite Scimitar and scrubscarl shield

I don't remember ever being double hit by a +3 elite scimitar, not since the devs added a brief delay to the 1h left swing after a successful block a couple years ago. I get double hit by Longswords on a daily basis (King_Chris gets me over half the time). Even the Miaodao can pull this off with some consistency, at only 97 speed when loomed. Can't say I've ever seen anyone pull off consistent double hits with 97 speed 1h or polearms.

Huscarl is a crap shield for any kind of duel situation, since it's too slow to enable block feints. If you see a Huscarl, just hold your attack until they drop their block. With a fast shield, you can drop your block for a split second to force the holding opponent to release their swing, and still recover in time to block it.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: San on June 06, 2013, 09:04:11 pm
Before everyone gets all l2p on me, I often encounter people using 102+ speed 1h weapons, and I can't recall ever being hit out of turn by one of those (Rondel excluded). I'm sure it can be done, but scrubs can pull it off with the Longsword/HBS.

I think you need decent PS, but if you have a 100+ speed 1h (did it with an italian as the slowest 1h so far, although that was on my 163 wpf alt), you can double hit a guy with a left swing if he's at your 11 O'clock if turned a specific way. Other times, you can only hit twice if you're moving away from their badly executed swing.

I'm definitely more annoyed by miaodao users than LS/HBS, but they are very common. I thought they were fine before their buff.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Malaclypse on June 06, 2013, 09:08:03 pm
I thought they were fine before their buff.

^ The reason they were buffed AFAIK was to increase their use on EU, where they were a much rarer sight. The impact of the buff was felt pretty deeply on NA where they were more often the go-to weapons in much the same way as EU favors the longer 2h swords.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 06, 2013, 09:14:57 pm
So mala you're saying that EU are trying to compensate for something?
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Malaclypse on June 06, 2013, 09:16:12 pm
So mala you're saying that EU are trying to compensate for something?

I'm saying that when there's an EU problem, NA is affected by whatever change is made to deal with it, and most often when there's an NA problem, nothing changes.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Elindor on June 06, 2013, 09:24:36 pm
Funny thing about the LS is that since I've been using it (which is a long time), it's stats have changed like 3 times...and yeah I don't think the latest buff was necessary.

It was 99 speed base, then they made it 98 speed base, then they made it 99 speed base again....lol

I've gotten sick of it numerous times and tried out great swords and swords of war and claymore's (as well as 1/shield, polearm, etc)....but I always come back to it...just feels right.

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Although as I mentioned before, with all the str/armor out there now I often say "*$&% THIS!" and throw down the LS and bring out my morningstar and just go nuts.  So I'd say I use that 40% of the time now.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on June 06, 2013, 09:24:49 pm
Blunt 2h's are the fucking best.

Whenever I hop on that there alt, I rock the studded war club or bar mace.

They're so fun. The *thunk* sound effect is hilarious and satisfying. Killing charging horsemen with horizontal swings is also infinitely rewarding. On some maps, I'll climb up a ruined building until I'm standing at the same height as the seated cavalryman upon his horse. And then I wait, and wait, and then fucking swing, clotheslining a biddy.

Fuck cav, someone's gotta kill 'em.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Phew on June 06, 2013, 09:26:39 pm
I'm saying that when there's an EU problem, NA is affected by whatever change is made to deal with it, and most often when there's an NA problem, nothing changes.

Case in point, attackers win on NA siege at least 80% of the time, because the maps are designed to be balanced for EU population. With the 20-30 players typical on NA, Defense doesn't have a chance. It's an easy fix (set defense respawn timer to be a function of population and/or change the map rotation), but since it's a NA-specific problem, none of the devs care enough to do anything.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Necrorave on June 06, 2013, 09:29:26 pm
I was talking about this yesterday as well.  Although, they will look down the list and realize that the greatsword does no more damage than a longsword.  They will never know a world outside of the longsword.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Jarold on June 06, 2013, 09:46:57 pm
Sword of War best War!
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Matey on June 06, 2013, 10:00:06 pm
The one 2h gen i did... i just used the german greatsword. i certainly didnt have any problems getting kills with it.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: MrShine on June 06, 2013, 10:19:06 pm
In Defense of My Longsword
The below is a listing of why I use the longsword, why I will continue to use the longsword, and why anyone who has a problem with it can go fuck themselves
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Carac on June 06, 2013, 10:27:37 pm
buff 2h
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Elindor on June 06, 2013, 11:11:36 pm
Similar reasons to Shine...and other swords are often too long and get stuck on stuff especially in siege on castle walls and being crowded by shielders left swinging on me like I'm rodney king.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Teeth on June 06, 2013, 11:21:24 pm
Dunno what it is with you muricans and using short weapons on battle. Short weapons and strength builds even. Makes no sense whatsoever. I would love to use a Danish in a server with a lot of 2h being longsworders. Length is king on battle, but perhaps you have less ganking or group versus group action or something.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Kafein on June 06, 2013, 11:23:09 pm
Dunno what it is with you muricans and using short weapons on battle. Short weapons and strength builds even. Makes no sense whatsoever. I would love to use a Danish in a server with a lot of 2h being longsworders. Length is king on battle, but perhaps you have less ganking or group versus group action or something.

Maybe they have less cav
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Dionysus on June 06, 2013, 11:59:46 pm
Goedendag, the only weapon that will greet you when you look at it.

The Shortened Military Scythe is another overlooked weapon, at least in my opinion.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Artyem on June 07, 2013, 12:17:26 am
I just had to check the list of people who've voted on this post...

+ KaMiKaZe_JoE
- Kaoklai
+ Kelugarn

looool
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 07, 2013, 12:42:15 am
I just had to check the list of people who've voted on this post...

+ KaMiKaZe_JoE
- Kaoklai
+ Kelugarn

looool
Kaoklai is trying to defeat tears in being the 1# voter.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on June 07, 2013, 01:26:39 am
I guess I don't see as many LS/HBS users as you guys do...I don't know. 

Not to be rude or anything, but I'd assume that's probably because you spend most of your time on siege right? :o (just a guess cuz I never see you on battle and whenever I play siege that's where you're at)
Join NA1 sometime, specifically when it's decently populated. Guarantee you will see quite an abundance of longswords.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Jarold on June 07, 2013, 01:39:05 am
Don't listen to them Elindor!!! Stay on Siege!!!
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Smoothrich on June 07, 2013, 01:47:18 am
Dunno what it is with you muricans and using short weapons on battle. Short weapons and strength builds even. Makes no sense whatsoever. I would love to use a Danish in a server with a lot of 2h being longsworders. Length is king on battle, but perhaps you have less ganking or group versus group action or something.

Its REALLY easy to hiltslash spam shielders with a longsword, and its far better to use sideswings when in a tight situation surrounded by enemies. Generally longsword play feels much smoother, a little more difficult, and faster paced than using a greatsword. Usually easier to get up close and finish off enemies with overheads and stuff in ganks with them too.

I teeter betwen German GS/GS and Longsword in my play, and got much more used to LS than before from being 2hand cav. Its a great weapon, but I don't think its OP. Top tier 1handers and majority of polearms all outreach it for example.

Unless you enjoy backpedaling everyone, the LS is a much better duelist/solo hero weapon. Probably why most 2handers on NA seem to use them, we are all solo-hero douchebags who ignore teammates and go ganking people from flanks alone. The STR builds in heavy armor all use greatswords and mauls and shit, just the balanced/medium armor players prefer LS.

Greatswords are far superior in any other situation though, and using one is basically begging to do nothing but lolstab abuse for killsteals. So I'm glad they aren't too popular in NA.

Also, the Two-Handed sword is garbage. I used a MW one for a while and while its fun to use, the stab is so pathetic its not even worth using. The Miadao has 4 more cut on swings and 5 more reach with the same nice fast speed.  Now that's a weapon that is fucking OP.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: owens on June 07, 2013, 03:22:21 am
comparing the longsword to the greatswords many people dont realise the extra reach of the greatswords is not much.

The danish greatsword the longest and most expensive greatsword has only 18 extra reach. With the inclusion of the 2H average of approx +40 reach thats not a big percentage. However in warband 9 speed is a lot.

I think NA players prefer the fast paced combat that only longswords can provide, as a pinger in NA i fear nothing more than a longsword. I can even block danish with 250 ping.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Kadeth on June 07, 2013, 05:40:42 am
They should at least make the Longsword a little more expensive imo.

As Owens pointed out, compare it to the Great Sword. The LS is much faster, does the same swing damage and yet it costs 6k less. The only con being that is has less reach, but I think the the speed advantage well and truly makes up for that. It seems awfully cheap for a weapon with such impressive stats. Same with the HBS and some others.

However, I'm sure that item balance is the dev team's top priority at the moment and that this will be sorted in no time.

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Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Dooz on June 07, 2013, 06:24:24 am
Seems like a lot of these arguments could be applied to the lances, as far as the heavy being a lot more expensive and not much more useful according to things being said here. Would be curious to see if the proponents of one would also favor the other, namely either making the lighter lances more expensive/nerfing them, or making heavy lance cheaper/buffing it.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Tom Cruise on June 07, 2013, 07:40:38 am

I've heard the argument that people are using the Longsword/HBS due to the ability of most players to block on a consistent basis, but that implies that Longsword/HBS are that much faster where they're more difficult to block than say, a Sword of War or Danish Greatsword.

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Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Kafein on June 07, 2013, 11:36:28 am
comparing the longsword to the greatswords many people dont realise the extra reach of the greatswords is not much.

The danish greatsword the longest and most expensive greatsword has only 18 extra reach. With the inclusion of the 2H average of approx +40 reach thats not a big percentage. However in warband 9 speed is a lot.

I think NA players prefer the fast paced combat that only longswords can provide, as a pinger in NA i fear nothing more than a longsword. I can even block danish with 250 ping.

It's not fast paced combat, it is unlocking the ability to random spam and get away with it.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: rustyspoon on June 08, 2013, 04:41:33 am
So from reading through this thread, a lot of people are saying that they use the longsword/HBS as it's easier to use in clusterfucks. I'd say that's a pretty legitimate reason considering the animations in this game make you swing like a retard.

Still though, I think the other weapons should be made more attractive. One thing that would be really nice if HALFSWORDING WAS ACTUALLY MADE USEFUL. Then you could switch to halfswording in tight locations and then switch back to regular when you have more room.

Honestly I'd rather create more options and diversity in the gameplay than just nerfing/buffing random weapons.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Smoothrich on June 08, 2013, 04:50:30 am
Still though, I think the other weapons should be made more attractive. One thing that would be really nice if HALFSWORDING WAS ACTUALLY MADE USEFUL. Then you could switch to halfswording in tight locations and then switch back to regular when you have more room.

Honestly I'd rather create more options and diversity in the gameplay than just nerfing/buffing random weapons.

I used to beg for halfswording to use 2hand WPF. It'd be incredible, and all the polearms and 1handers with alt modes use their own respective wpf. Hell the Poleaxes are simply ridiculous with what they offer. I think its some kind of hard-cored problem that forces it to use polearm WPF or some other garbage, or that Urist/Paul played a 2hander/polearm hybrid once and thought it was a master class that everyone should play.

I'd GLADLY see nerfs across the board for 2hand thrusts if halfswording used 2hand WPF.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
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Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Elindor on June 10, 2013, 06:43:53 pm
Not to be rude or anything, but I'd assume that's probably because you spend most of your time on siege right? :o (just a guess cuz I never see you on battle and whenever I play siege that's where you're at)
Join NA1 sometime, specifically when it's decently populated. Guarantee you will see quite an abundance of longswords.

I am usually on siege yeah...

That's weird that more people use LS/HBS on battle since in my mind shorter weapons are more viable in siege, and LONGER weapons would be more viable on battle. 
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on June 10, 2013, 07:01:18 pm
I am usually on siege yeah...

That's weird that more people use LS/HBS on battle since in my mind shorter weapons are more viable in siege, and LONGER weapons would be more viable on battle.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. You'd think more people would use shorter weapons on siege, and longer ones for battle. Oddly enough it's the complete opposite. It's quite refreshing playing siege every once in awhile and seeing the lack of longsword/HBS.

In fact it's almost odd how rare those weapons are on siege, you are one of the few people I see using it consistently, but it makes sense, you are quite deadly with that thing!  :wink:
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Elindor on June 10, 2013, 07:24:31 pm
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. You'd think more people would use shorter weapons on siege, and longer ones for battle. Oddly enough it's the complete opposite. It's quite refreshing playing siege every once in awhile and seeing the lack of longsword/HBS.

In fact it's almost odd how rare those weapons are on siege, you are one of the few people I see using it consistently, but it makes sense, you are quite deadly with that thing!  :wink:

Yeah you should play siege more :)  I always like when you're on my team hah.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Tiger on June 10, 2013, 08:31:52 pm
The Longsword and Heavy Bastard Swords are very good weapons. I use the Heavy Bastard Sword because of it's stats, especially speed to counter strong but slow big 2H swords, and the unkeep is lower than a 2-hander like a Claymore. Although I do use 2H weapons throughout the whole range in the shop.
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: Ledrion on June 10, 2013, 09:48:02 pm
I like the longsword because I like chambering and it seems to be the best at it...however haven't used the bastard swords. I keep the two hand sword as default start equip but seem to back to longsword by 2 or 3rd death
Title: Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on June 11, 2013, 10:25:16 am
Yeah you should play siege more :)  I always like when you're on my team hah.

I'd say the same of you! I'll definitely play it a bit more, we'll team up and roll the the server a bit  :wink: