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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #45 on: June 07, 2013, 03:22:21 am »
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comparing the longsword to the greatswords many people dont realise the extra reach of the greatswords is not much.

The danish greatsword the longest and most expensive greatsword has only 18 extra reach. With the inclusion of the 2H average of approx +40 reach thats not a big percentage. However in warband 9 speed is a lot.

I think NA players prefer the fast paced combat that only longswords can provide, as a pinger in NA i fear nothing more than a longsword. I can even block danish with 250 ping.
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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #46 on: June 07, 2013, 05:40:42 am »
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They should at least make the Longsword a little more expensive imo.

As Owens pointed out, compare it to the Great Sword. The LS is much faster, does the same swing damage and yet it costs 6k less. The only con being that is has less reach, but I think the the speed advantage well and truly makes up for that. It seems awfully cheap for a weapon with such impressive stats. Same with the HBS and some others.

However, I'm sure that item balance is the dev team's top priority at the moment and that this will be sorted in no time.

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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #47 on: June 07, 2013, 06:24:24 am »
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Seems like a lot of these arguments could be applied to the lances, as far as the heavy being a lot more expensive and not much more useful according to things being said here. Would be curious to see if the proponents of one would also favor the other, namely either making the lighter lances more expensive/nerfing them, or making heavy lance cheaper/buffing it.
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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2013, 07:40:38 am »
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I've heard the argument that people are using the Longsword/HBS due to the ability of most players to block on a consistent basis, but that implies that Longsword/HBS are that much faster where they're more difficult to block than say, a Sword of War or Danish Greatsword.

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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2013, 11:36:28 am »
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comparing the longsword to the greatswords many people dont realise the extra reach of the greatswords is not much.

The danish greatsword the longest and most expensive greatsword has only 18 extra reach. With the inclusion of the 2H average of approx +40 reach thats not a big percentage. However in warband 9 speed is a lot.

I think NA players prefer the fast paced combat that only longswords can provide, as a pinger in NA i fear nothing more than a longsword. I can even block danish with 250 ping.

It's not fast paced combat, it is unlocking the ability to random spam and get away with it.

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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2013, 04:41:33 am »
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So from reading through this thread, a lot of people are saying that they use the longsword/HBS as it's easier to use in clusterfucks. I'd say that's a pretty legitimate reason considering the animations in this game make you swing like a retard.

Still though, I think the other weapons should be made more attractive. One thing that would be really nice if HALFSWORDING WAS ACTUALLY MADE USEFUL. Then you could switch to halfswording in tight locations and then switch back to regular when you have more room.

Honestly I'd rather create more options and diversity in the gameplay than just nerfing/buffing random weapons.
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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2013, 04:50:30 am »
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Still though, I think the other weapons should be made more attractive. One thing that would be really nice if HALFSWORDING WAS ACTUALLY MADE USEFUL. Then you could switch to halfswording in tight locations and then switch back to regular when you have more room.

Honestly I'd rather create more options and diversity in the gameplay than just nerfing/buffing random weapons.

I used to beg for halfswording to use 2hand WPF. It'd be incredible, and all the polearms and 1handers with alt modes use their own respective wpf. Hell the Poleaxes are simply ridiculous with what they offer. I think its some kind of hard-cored problem that forces it to use polearm WPF or some other garbage, or that Urist/Paul played a 2hander/polearm hybrid once and thought it was a master class that everyone should play.

I'd GLADLY see nerfs across the board for 2hand thrusts if halfswording used 2hand WPF.
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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #52 on: June 08, 2013, 05:13:33 am »
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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #53 on: June 10, 2013, 06:43:53 pm »
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Not to be rude or anything, but I'd assume that's probably because you spend most of your time on siege right? :o (just a guess cuz I never see you on battle and whenever I play siege that's where you're at)
Join NA1 sometime, specifically when it's decently populated. Guarantee you will see quite an abundance of longswords.

I am usually on siege yeah...

That's weird that more people use LS/HBS on battle since in my mind shorter weapons are more viable in siege, and LONGER weapons would be more viable on battle. 
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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2013, 07:01:18 pm »
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I am usually on siege yeah...

That's weird that more people use LS/HBS on battle since in my mind shorter weapons are more viable in siege, and LONGER weapons would be more viable on battle.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. You'd think more people would use shorter weapons on siege, and longer ones for battle. Oddly enough it's the complete opposite. It's quite refreshing playing siege every once in awhile and seeing the lack of longsword/HBS.

In fact it's almost odd how rare those weapons are on siege, you are one of the few people I see using it consistently, but it makes sense, you are quite deadly with that thing!  :wink:
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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2013, 07:24:31 pm »
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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. You'd think more people would use shorter weapons on siege, and longer ones for battle. Oddly enough it's the complete opposite. It's quite refreshing playing siege every once in awhile and seeing the lack of longsword/HBS.

In fact it's almost odd how rare those weapons are on siege, you are one of the few people I see using it consistently, but it makes sense, you are quite deadly with that thing!  :wink:

Yeah you should play siege more :)  I always like when you're on my team hah.
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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2013, 08:31:52 pm »
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The Longsword and Heavy Bastard Swords are very good weapons. I use the Heavy Bastard Sword because of it's stats, especially speed to counter strong but slow big 2H swords, and the unkeep is lower than a 2-hander like a Claymore. Although I do use 2H weapons throughout the whole range in the shop.
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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2013, 09:48:02 pm »
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I like the longsword because I like chambering and it seems to be the best at it...however haven't used the bastard swords. I keep the two hand sword as default start equip but seem to back to longsword by 2 or 3rd death
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Re: Public Service Announcement for NA 2-Handers
« Reply #58 on: June 11, 2013, 10:25:16 am »
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Yeah you should play siege more :)  I always like when you're on my team hah.

I'd say the same of you! I'll definitely play it a bit more, we'll team up and roll the the server a bit  :wink:
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