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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on April 20, 2013, 06:03:19 pm
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I cannot comprehend why they were nerfed, some months ago I'd next to never survive a headshot that wasn't a glance, these days I survive most arrows and some bolts to the face, fuck, just now I was riding around with a jarid sticking out of eye. I've been able to shot people in the back of the head with throwing lances with them surviving it, and (admittedly a teammate) Butan could take two throwing lances to the face at point blank range.
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They have nerfed it a bit, although in all honestly we may only realize this because headshots stick even if you survive now.
When it comes to this I have no opinion, just stating that I have noticed a difference.
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Buff archery in general - playing a non-loomed archer is just painful now. It used to be fun, but now you move so damn slow that I might as well drop my power draw and put it into power strike... wait... was that the plan all along?
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Buff archery in general - playing a non-loomed archer is just painful now. It used to be fun, but now you move so damn slow that I might as well drop my power draw and put it into power strike... wait... was that the plan all along?
Weeaboo
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Been noticing a lot more projectiles sticking out of the center of my head the past month or two.
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Your teamate survived those lances to the head for 2 reasons.
1. They are a loomed str crutcher.
2. Damage to teamates is heavily mitigated.
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Your teamate survived those lances to the head for 2 reasons.
1. They are a loomed str crutcher.
2. Damage to teamates is heavily mitigated.
Damage to teammates is cut down by 50%, meaning two should count as one normal one, and it was point blank.
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Doesn't Butan have 41 strength, 13 ironflesh and ~75 head armor?
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Doesn't Butan have 41 strength, 13 ironflesh and ~75 head armor?
...maybe
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Damage to teammates is cut down by 50%, meaning two should count as one normal one, and it was point blank.
Is damage to teammates halved prior to armor reduction, or halved after armor reduction? If it's the former, then the final damage could end up being under half the normal value.
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Is damage to teammates halved prior to armor reduction, or halved after armor reduction? If it's the former, then the final damage could end up being under half the normal value.
Prior.
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for the record, rouncey and destrier survive headshots from a mw longbow and mw bodkin arrows. You'd think there was a point to using the expensive heavely armored horses.
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Destrier costs just 150-ish gold less then an armoured horse to upkeep (and is more difficult to upkeep then, eg. Churburg cuirass and only a tad less then plate). This is less then 10%. You also gain 3 more speed and maneuver, at expense of 13 charge (over 120%) and HP / a significant amount of armour.
The only reason to use a destrier is because you didn't loom a barded horse and nobody wants to trade one for a destrier.
If upkeep was not so easy to bypass for older / grindy players... well.
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Headshots are still as lethal as ever. I regularly get oneshot despite wearing a 63armor helm.
I think the headshots that leave people alive are from lower level players, or maybe players without heirlooms or a long shot/poor movement dmgbonus.
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Headshots are still as lethal as ever. I regularly get oneshot despite wearing a 63armor helm.
I think the headshots that leave people alive are from lower level players, or maybe players without heirlooms or a long shot/poor movement dmgbonus.
You are an idiot, it takes me 3-4 arrows to head shot anyone with more than 30 head armor. 7PD loomed Horn bow and bodkin arrows.
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You are an idiot, it takes me 3-4 arrows to head shot anyone with more than 30 head armor. 7PD loomed Horn bow and bodkin arrows.
lololo, good troll.
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not a troll, get on duel server and test that shit out yourself like I have. Have a buddy with a 63 armor helm and a decent amount of IF and please tell me you can one shot, head shot them. You can't.
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not a troll, get on duel server and test that shit out yourself like I have. Have a buddy with a 63 armor helm and a decent amount of IF and please tell me you can one shot, head shot them. You can't.
...and you use 3-4 arrows on 30 head armor with +3 horn bow and +3 bodkins like you stated in your previous post? :)
I've played a lot as archer, both loomed and non-loomed and people surviving head shots was more of an freak occurrence than a common thing (6 Power draw). I've also been on the receiving end of a lot of head shots and it's rare that I'm still alive after it. I usually have around 18-24 strength and a couple of IF points and between 40 and 55 head armour.
I don't want head shots to be nerfed, not at all, they should be very deadly, like they already are. However, post like these;
You are an idiot, it takes me 3-4 arrows to head shot anyone with more than 30 head armor. 7PD loomed Horn bow and bodkin arrows.
..which are pure exaggeration (probably based on rage after someone survived a head shot recently? :P) just doesn't contribute anything to a game balance discussion.
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but this guy saying he gets head shot with one arrow with 63 head armor is adding to the discussion? Because its not true at all. Right now my build is 18/18 archer. 6 PD, loomed Horn bow and bodkin arrows. Anyone with a decent amount of IF and something like an area helm or better SERIOUSLY takes more than ONE arrow to kill.
And can anyone here honestly say that archery is balanced? It was balanced like 4 months ago but now...this shit is getting ridiculous
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but this guy saying he gets head shot with one arrow with 63 head armor is adding to the discussion? Because its not true at all. Right now my build is 18/18 archer. 6 PD, loomed Horn bow and bodkin arrows. Anyone with a decent amount of IF and something like an area helm or better SERIOUSLY takes more than ONE arrow to kill.
And can anyone here honestly say that archery is balanced? It was balanced like 4 months ago but now...this shit is getting ridiculous
He never said that. He said he "regularly get oneshot despite wearing a 63armor helm." He never mentioned arrows. Bolts, jarids or throwing lances are also ranged weapons that are almost guaranteed to 1shot on headhits. That being said, you can still 1shot headshot people with arrows with a longbow or as a HA riding towards a target. I oneshot people with my +3 Bow (yes, Bow) and bodkins with my HA. Speedbonus is a beast.
It's the same the other way. When I have my 63 armour helmet on, I often get oneshot by headhits. Usually from long/rusbow archers.
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I have noticed that I survive more, and I've seen other people survive them as well.
I was using a char with 10IF and no helmet and took an arrow to the head from mid range and only lost about a third of my health. I'm not sure about any of the archers stats but I took it right in the eye with no helmet so I thought that was a bit piss weak. I also survived a jarrid to the head with no helmet.
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Today on Eu1 i took 3 headshots ( non-intentionnal test for this topic )
One by throwing spear
One by light crossbow
One by Rus bow
ONESHOT
i have 24 str, 0 ironflesh
57 head armor
I'm not crying, or saying " fuck that's Op" but i think it's ok
Players just changed their build to str crutchers with a lot in ironflesh, that's why
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ful speed padded warhorse, normal loomed lance, headthrust an archer with light head armor. he just laughs and shoot down my horse while im riding away
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ful speed padded warhorse, normal loomed lance, headthrust an archer with light head armor. he just laughs and shoot down my horse while im riding away
Yeah but
fuck lancers
<3 you
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Yeah but
fuck lancers
<3 you
that, i have noticed.
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Played archer for the first time in a little while. There was one head shot that didn't one-hit, all the others did. The guy I didn't one-hit wore a barbutte. Don't know his build or if the helmet was heirloomed though.