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FLoTT, not TAMDA, thank you.
None of the factions involved are in the pact anyway, their mistake.
Prepare to be crushed FCC, Lost Legion will show you no mercy.
Also, so much for FCC's not attack small clans policy they have been pushing on the community for the past 4 months or so.
I am sure kesh is pissing his pants right now :rolleyes:
BOARD Clan's OFFICIAL SEMI-SERIOUS SPERGGY BUT NOT AS SPERGGY AS SMOOTHRICH BUT SLIGHTLY MORE SPERGY THAN KESH DECLARATION OF STRATEGIC INTENTIONS REGARDING FCC, LL, TEUTONICS, DL BUT NOT LLJK:(click to show/hide)
That is all.
(I am honestly surprised Chaos HASN'T attacked FCC yet)
I am honestly not surprised Chaos HASN'T done anything ever.fixed it for you
The leaders of the free companies met with the mighty shaman witchcraft. The bones were tossed. Nova Slezkh Castle has been declared a holy place and our people march in search of the glory of resurrection. Twice this miracle has been seen. Fear not of death people of terror for you shall rise again chants our shaman.
The blood this war has shed has fueled the terrortops power and the magic has returned to the land. We have seen the signs and know in our hearts that He is with us.
The terror is rising
BaleOhay War Chief of the BS clan
(that is the story part.. the reality is we do not want them as neighbors, it is like hosp lite... no thanks)
dam you guys pick up on a 12 man clan gg
didn't you attack frisia when you though they were a just a small faction?
Also; I don't know if we are even attacking LL or if we are just defending teutonic. Also, LL, Hospitallers, Occitan... aren't you all just the same clan since strat 2?
Jesus, Arowaine. Give the "poor sods" thing a rest - and that goes for everyone, since you're hardly the first.
Everyone attacks smaller factions from time to time. Some attack bigger factions, too. So what? People have their reasons. Strategus is ultimately a game of politics.
I am, I am also a forum warrior. I call out people on shit they claim and prove it false! I fight on all sides, and suffice to say, only 4 factions have ever really paid me constantly. FCC, LL(now), Blackzilla(yup he's a faction on his own right!), and NH/Fimbul. Most other factions it's spotty, I'll get some pay or i won't. You don't see me declaring war on anyone, and I work with everyone.I imagine it would be difficult as a one man "faction" to declare war on anyone else.
but but? isn't that the best end result?
The reason Arow mentions this is because FCC has been claiming this whole strat that they're all about helping small factions.. and that they wouldn't interfere in small faction wars.
Now they're using an excuse to attack one without proof. Claiming that this small faction is working with us and that we are helping them when it's far from the truth.
You have to call that out.
Well it seems odd that we have been doing a lot of trading ourselves and had more members than LL for a period of time but the gear they have would overly bankrupt us 10 fold. I think FCC has a good reason for attacking.
Hell we move 10-15K goods a week as a large faction with huge quantities of S&D from owning many fiefs and their armies would have cost us everything we would have made in 2-3 months. Full heraldic plate with great mauls and arbalests, etc. etc. Their armies would cost roughly 8 million gold to outfit 12 thousand troops, basically what a massive faction with a lot of eu trade could maybe pull off (hospergllers), but not a small faction with only 1 fief and access to limited amounts of other clan's fief's S&D and those only with 20-25% taxes.
Hell we move 10-15K goods a week as a large faction with huge quantities of S&D from owning many fiefs and their armies would have cost us everything we would have made in 2-3 months. Full heraldic plate with great mauls and arbalests, etc. etc. Their armies would cost roughly 8 million gold to outfit 12 thousand troops, basically what a massive faction with a lot of eu trade could maybe pull off (hospergllers), but not a small faction with only 1 fief and access to limited amounts of other clan's fief's S&D and those only with 20-25% taxes.
dam you guys pick up on a126 man clan called BIRD Clan with Hero Party gg
Arowaine, let's not forget history.
Also, Hospis attacking Hero Party at the beginning of Strat. TKoV attacking Chevaliers and Remnant.
Much larger clans attacking smaller clans over debatable reasons, depending on your perspective, has happened in pretty much every strat. There is a lot of legitimate criticism you can make of FCC, but come on, that's pretty weak one consider the 4 largest clans have all done it at some point this strat alone.
In conclusion:
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Tanken I know you are saying they were moving 10K goods a week or more - but this is my question if they were doing that much - where were they getting the trade goods? Who would let them steal 10K goods like that from their fiefs - all our free trade fiefs and the other free trade fiefs in the snow combined couldn't handle that much (assuming the other 20-30 people using them didnt take any) and would be 25% taxed, plus going to all those various fiefs would take more than a week each time just to circulate around let alone get over to exchange with eu and then have to run around and find 10K S&D to sell (steal) in. Where are they supposedly get access get to tens of thousands of S&D without getting attacked every other day? Who supposedly financed 10K S&D a week in trade and for what purpose?we got our goods from different places. At first when we were still in kutt we had bulgur, but seeing how that was a gift to Kutt and not LL we gave it back but hosp allowed us to buy the remaining s&d. Now on top of that we also asked tkov about buying from their lands and they allowed it. In total I think doom picked up around 8k goods from tkov and surrounding places that gave him permission.
The fact that LL was able to freely attack people in Hospitaller lands and be not attacked by them is a pretty strong sign of where they are aligned (not to mention more than half of them show up for every fight agaisnt us and the the other people hospitaller is making war with). Waiting for them to strike at a bad random moment like astralis the other hospitaller vassal did to fimbrulvetyr doesn't seem that great an idea and allowing them a nice foothold for supporting hospitaller aggression near our lands is also not something to be desired. Also, I said 8 million not 12.
And that's pretty much it. It sucks but unless they are counter attacking to survive, most clans will attack smaller factions instead of a bigger one just to be sure they don't lose in the end and FCC is no different whatever they say about it
I'm pretty sure semenstorm has done the opposite at every opportunity and hoped for the best lol. I've been convinced we were gonna get wiped off the game several times now. Not very interesting otherwise. Fuck carebear alliances.
Well we did attack BIRD with no real reasons but to expand around WeyyCOCK and have a foothold in NA which is basically preying on a smaller clan but yeah ever since then we've been up against much bigger guys than us
Im not counting Frisia in that because we went there to try helping SS in taking back a legitimate claim in my book. Gotta be ready to fight when you take a fief that belongs to someone else whatever size your clan is.
Regardless of Hosp support, real or imagined, FCC is still going against a much smaller faction.
And you know what? We're going to fuck LL. Then we're going to blow a hot, steamy load of victory all over their faces, tear-streaked from madness and sorrow and rectal bleeding.
And hey, at least we're friends with Teutonic, which is a goodish reason to go to war. Though maybe sneakily giving them gear, troops, and money might've been a better idea. Alas, the time for smart decisions is in the past, and the time of glorious war is upon us!
Nope
This is why I like Arowaine/Occitan, they are honest and good folks to deal with. Shinock admits why they got involved, just like Arowaine did to me. Gasp, he and I even joke about it still.
Smoothrich still lives in the delusional martyr world where Phantom was big meanie to him, Partyboy got 12k troops from FCC, Kesh controls 100 accounts and his girlfriend is his hand, Smoothrich believes himself to be the master strategic manipulator of the world of strategus, and he was only deadminned for fighting the good fight against cheaters.
So sayeth BOARD Clan.
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LLJK was wiped out for being a useless clan that helped no one, and a new territory-alliance sprung up that has led to months of sieges, countless battles, and much more fun. LLJK-BIRD was the shit fertilizer from which a new era of Strategus could bloom.
Rikthor there's something special about your damn avatar...
Tanken I know you are saying they were moving 10K goods a week or more - but this is my question if they were doing that much - where were they getting the trade goods? Who would let them steal 10K goods like that from their fiefs - all our free trade fiefs and the other free trade fiefs in the snow combined couldn't handle that much (assuming the other 20-30 people using them didnt take any) and would be 25% taxed, plus going to all those various fiefs would take more than a week each time just to circulate around let alone get over to exchange with eu and then have to run around and find 10K S&D to sell (steal) in. Where are they supposedly get access get to tens of thousands of S&D without getting attacked every other day? Who supposedly financed 10K S&D a week in trade and for what purpose?
The fact that LL was able to freely attack people in Hospitaller lands and be not attacked by them is a pretty strong sign of where they are aligned (not to mention more than half of them show up for every fight agaisnt us and the the other people hospitaller is making war with). Waiting for them to strike at a bad random moment like astralis the other hospitaller vassal did to fimbrulvetyr doesn't seem that great an idea and allowing them a nice foothold for supporting hospitaller aggression near our lands is also not something to be desired. Also, I said 8 million not 12.
I think big factions are not nearly as big as people think. Lots of members in the faction doesn't mean lots of active traders nor does it mean lots of recruiters. It usually just means lots of inactives. A faction of ten active recruiters/traders can do as much as a clan of 50 that has 40 in actives. I guess my main point is that it is harder to accurately estimate the abilities of larger clans.
I like to think that most factions has at least half their members active enough to hoard troops and do other stuff.
hahahaha, I wish, try more like 1/4th with any strat ticks. Our members get bored with this game faster than most other clans, probably why we are the most aggressive. i think the average renown is nearing 1 million for our faction.
So you're telling me the ton of troops you have magically appeared in your fiefs? Can you tell me your trick Mr. magician
hahahaha, I wish, try more like 1/4th with any strat ticks. Our members get bored with this game faster than most other clans, probably why we are the most aggressive. i think the average renown is nearing 1 million for our faction.
Kesh is 16 year old Japanese girl remember? She has plenty of "tricks".
Anyone who needs more detail can contact her "manager" bale to discuss how many troops it will cost for kesh to explain in more detail.
Well we did attack BIRD with no real reasons but to expand around WeyyCOCK and have a foothold in NA which is basically preying on a smaller clan but yeah ever since then we've been up against much bigger guys than us
I still get a kick out of people typing BIRD CLAN like a legitimate thing so really I feel I've come out pretty far ahead b/c of all that stuff.
It's posts like this that makes me glad that we fell to Occitan. The frankness that you guys display when dealing with everyone else in a cesspool of shit talking and propaganda. A+, would die to you guys again =]
Were done killing beautiful and peaceful birds, I'm happy you could relocate your flock somewhere, long live BIRD CLAN!
Wanna sell me a fief down there? I'm always looking for more.
edit: ooo, actually, things are looking pretty blue down there :(
These aren't skyladders.Rly? You probably missed the physics lessons at school ...
Rly? You probably missed the physics lessons at school ...
Keshian, so why, when this is done by someone of the "Axis of Evil", it is called skyladder, but when this is done by you, it's not? :) Fnd the difference http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-issues/siege-shields-on-top-of-skyladders/msg673351/#msg673351
It's not about the siege shields on ladders, it's about the ladders, placed in the same way, but called different.
...Also, LL, Hospitallers, Occitan... aren't you all just the same clan since strat 2?that stuff again, isn't that like asking, aren't FCC, Cavaliers, TKoV,NH all the same clan? at least 3 of those had been allied since strat 2.0 and next round if NH doesn't make a huge turn around ...
saying we are "attacking" them makes it sound like we went out of our way to declare war on them and are currently sending armies at them. Last I checked, LL was trying to finish off a clan that was already in bad shape from their last war and we - due to various reasons - decided to help that small clan against the hordes of troops being sent against it. I don't know if we have any plans to launch any offensives against LL or not, but I think it is a pretty big stretch to say we are attacking a little guy here.You defenitly didn't went out of your way, but i would formulate it differently.
Well it seems odd that we have been doing a lot of trading ourselves and had more members than LL for a period of time but the gear they have would overly bankrupt us 10 fold. I think FCC has a good reason for attacking.As Kesh said, if a faction is overly inactive like only 1/4 doing something, then surly there is not much you can invest with. From what i know of LL, yes they are small but they have like at least 70% active guys doing stuff. And this claim of 12 million gold makes me giggle, if we would have been the source of that dude i would have steamrolled a lot in EU ^^, Wolves only without any other faction of CFA is doing NA trade as far i am aware of and we do trade with any NA faction who is willing to and those may not like that but i don't quite give a crap aslong i make a profit of those parties ;) may it be chaos, FCC, LL, Hosp or whoever is there at a time we are with goods to swap or in other words if you get more goods to a place we agree on you will do more trade then others you wouldn't want us to do trade with.
Lol is this seriously even debatable? I mean do you have to have a brain to understand all this shit would in reality fall right on the ground? no matter how you call it, it may not be a sky ladder in a sense to be built on another ladder, it may be a sky ladder that makes an impossible high ground against the law of physics, and obviously the archers are even misusing it to their own advantage, sometimes people make me sick with their twisted ideas of how to go against the law and call it a different name, and I thought we were pathetic by laying the ladders around the flags against the cav since there is no other equipment for such purpose, now I see people can go even further than that and exploit the bugged physics, yay, congratulations, you may not have breached the law but you have certainly became the new assholes of the strategus!
Stop being nerds about ladders tia.
Every single large battle in the open field, at least in NA for the past few months, has seen them used in that way regardless if it was FCC, TKoV, Occitan, Hero Party, Hosipi, etc. It's a dumb complaint made by babies. Each battle that I have been a part of for the last couple months has had at least one active admin in it, who shockingly enough, say when there are skyladders regardless of his or her side.
After 5 pages I feel 1 very important fact is missing.LL members are united and motivated by 1 hate and that is Teutonics. When the mighty KUTT empire was being attacked at the begining of this strat Teutonics where our ally's who Tanken had given army's to.Instead of helping us with the army's gifted to them they turned them on us while we where on the brink of extinsion.Backstabbed us just like kicking a man while he is on the ground.A dog act in any language.LL members are what remains of the once mighty KUTT(apart from KUTT that reformed) and our hate for Teutonics will never die.
Let us never forget and always bring it up. To have a grudge for that long is pathetic. Me and Tanken worked it out after. Obvs you are still/ always mad. A 3 month plan ending in 5 days! Our empire will remain!
It doesn't really matter what is defined my physics, more important is what is aloud in the game. So while these ladders wouldn't work in real life, they work in the game, and are ok by the rules in place. It may be dumb, but I don't think mid battle discussions of whether the ladder agrees with the current rules of physics is a good idea either. Specifically ladders that are borderline as to whether they would work or not.
And for those trolls who have to call everyone a dick for trying to make this game any better just to show off how cool they are, remember it is us, the players who make this game, and it is up to us which way will we choose, for me the way I play mirrors the person I am, I like to play it the hard way to earn the credit, if I feel something (like slashing through door) is really stupid and I dont want the others to do it, I dont do it myself, I have encoutered several people rather opening the door and risk getting the attackers in than exploiting the bug to cut smbdy through the door, so yes, it actually does work.
I personally want a strat fight to be played like a hockey game.... Just couse your on defense doesn't mean you have to sit on your flags. It's an even fight with the same flag problem on both sides.
So why does defense never just push and make use of forward spawns like attackers do? You can trap them on their flags just as easy.
...timer & distance & respawn times
So why does defense never just push and make use of forward spawns like attackers do?
You can trap them on their flags just as easy.
Regardless of Hosp support, real or imagined, FCC is still going against a much smaller faction.
And you know what? We're going to fuck LL. Then we're going to blow a hot, steamy load of victory all over their faces, tear-streaked from madness and sorrow and rectal bleeding.
And hey, at least we're friends with Teutonic, which is a goodish reason to go to war. Though maybe sneakily giving them gear, troops, and money might've been a better idea. Alas, the time for smart decisions is in the past, and the time of glorious war is upon us!
I personally want a strat fight to be played like a hockey game.... Just couse your on defense doesn't mean you have to sit on your flags. It's an even fight with the same flag problem on both sides.
So why does defense never just push and make use of forward spawns like attackers do? You can trap them on their flags just as easy.
The thing that I was trying to say was that you don't HAVE to stay at flags. By the hockey metaphor I ment that you are just as able to take their flags as they are to take yours, if your willing to play the risk of going all out offence, even though it will fuck you over sometimes.
The thing that I was trying to say was that you don't HAVE to stay at flags. By the hockey metaphor I ment that you are just as able to take their flags as they are to take yours, if your willing to play the risk of going all out offence, even though it will fuck you over sometimes.