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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Smoothrich on February 07, 2013, 04:59:21 am

Title: First they came for...
Post by: Smoothrich on February 07, 2013, 04:59:21 am
First they came for the Hospitallers,
and I didn't fight because they were enemies last strat and deserved it.

Then they came for the Chevalieres,
and I didn't fight because they attacked us first, were new, and weak.

Then they came for the Remnants,
and I didn't fight because they ran away and joined FCC.

Then they came for the Occitan,
and I didn't fight because I couldn't understand a word they said.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to fight for me..
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: KaleLord on February 07, 2013, 05:15:51 am
+1
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Hobb on February 07, 2013, 05:40:25 am
First we came Hospitaller and you all rejoiced;
 "they are our white knights in shining armor," the people said.

Then we came for Chevaliers;
"they are only doing this for our own good," the people said.

Then we came for Remnant;
Surely they will stop here, they can't be this greedy," the people cried.

Then we came for Occitan;
This..This must be all they will do, these animals cannot continue this madness, the people sobbed.

Then we came for YOU,
and world turned into blue darkness and there was no more xp to be had

Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Gash on February 07, 2013, 05:45:51 am
Sounds about right.

 :mrgreen:

Strat empires that don't need to deal with faraway rebellions: OP!  :P
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Sir_Winston_Churchill on February 07, 2013, 05:49:16 am
+1 for an excellent reference

Is this a declaration of war or a prediction of future destruction?
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Nightingale on February 07, 2013, 07:03:05 am
Your poetry confuses me, explain this to small minded people like myself!
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Smoothrich on February 07, 2013, 07:08:11 am
Your poetry confuses me, explain this to small minded people like myself!

Veluca Empire is Hitl3r, and we are all the Jews.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Sir_Mahtin on February 07, 2013, 07:15:01 am
The are expanding for more land to build their so called labor camps.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on February 07, 2013, 12:29:40 pm
I for one, am grateful for our soon-to-be Velucan overlords.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Latvian on February 07, 2013, 12:46:13 pm
can you explain to us europeans what this topic is about in short version?
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Syls on February 07, 2013, 12:47:30 pm
can you explain to us europeans what this topic is about in short version?

The Velucan Empire is the biggest faction in NA and we've been expanding a lot so now Smoothrich is scared that nobody will stop us before it's too late.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Joseph Porta on February 07, 2013, 12:59:42 pm
better start developing the bomb before they do.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Vovka on February 07, 2013, 02:27:06 pm
Smoothrich, why do you not nuked them before they even started war?  :P
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Casimir on February 07, 2013, 02:43:09 pm
So Robert is The Fuhrer and all the Velucans are National Socialist?
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on February 07, 2013, 02:46:04 pm
So Robert is The Fuhrer and all the Velucans are National Socialist?

Well, Velucan Empire has portrated themselves as MURRICA and their enemies as TURURRISTS since the beginning of strat 4.

So yes.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Arathian on February 07, 2013, 03:13:57 pm
Heh

I, for one, definitively welcome our imperial overlords.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Turboflex on February 07, 2013, 03:39:09 pm
HP uses sarranid armor, and Occitan uses scimitars, clearly they are the terrorists.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: BaleOhay on February 07, 2013, 03:44:21 pm
I thought fcc was the evil empire... need to talk with our publicity officer.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 07, 2013, 06:09:40 pm
I thought fcc was the evil empire... need to talk with our publicity officer.

The Velucian Empire has been expanding since the beginning of strat, while you guys have pretty much held the same territory since the beginning.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: BaleOhay on February 07, 2013, 07:47:09 pm
We have expanded plenty.. just gave a bunch of it away. I think we kept 2 cities and 2-3 Castles and 1-2 fiefs beyond our original claim. The rest went to smaller.clans to give them a place to start
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 07, 2013, 08:18:29 pm
We have expanded plenty.. just gave a bunch of it away. I think we kept 2 cities and 2-3 Castles and 1-2 fiefs beyond our original claim. The rest went to smaller.clans to give them a place to start

I'm not saying its a bad thing, but it isn't empire building like VE has done.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Kelugarn on February 07, 2013, 08:32:41 pm
Just wait until TVE starts driving waves of poor HP/Occ refugees before their armies. We'll all have to seek asylum in EU land in another month.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: SHinOCk on February 07, 2013, 08:42:27 pm
The Velucan Empire is the biggest faction in NA and we've been expanding a lot so now Smoothrich is scared that nobody will stop us before it's too late.

Its already too late unless everyone takes the opportunity to go at you while you're invested down in the desert
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on February 07, 2013, 09:07:42 pm
Yeah unless TKoV completely fucks up, or FCC surprises them, they'll win the Strat.

They cannot be stopped.

Gotta nerf cav.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Hobb on February 07, 2013, 09:27:16 pm
im tired of this occitan sob story. You guys have almost as many troops as us if not more, and you are on defense.

Do we have the advantage? Yes.
Do use diplomacy to better ourselves? Yes.

You cry on the forums about our size before any battles have even happened.

The first time robert showed his nipples on these forums was for our last defense in the previous strat. We were outnumbered way more than you are now and had less castles and no towns or allies with any land. But when strat ended we had both of our castles and more troops and gear then we did when we started. Yah i can stretch my E-peen too.

Why? because defense is easy mode, ask the new UIF in there attempt to kill the old UIF. Why not let a few sieges happen before you start crying? I think bulugha castle was on siege 7 or 8 when hospitaller quit coming for more and we were carting excess gear to our other castle

oh and for those of you who forgot:
(click to show/hide)

im down with the forum wars, absolutely love em, but do you guys really want to take the QQ road?
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Gmnotutoo on February 07, 2013, 09:54:36 pm
I really honestly don't have any control or even much knowledge about what the FCC is now doing in strat. I get asked to sign up for battles and I either show up or play SS13. But if you wanted them (FCC) to help you fight VE then better diplomacy should have been your goal. So I'm speaking as an independent observer.

Leaders of HeroHospyOcciChev, I know you guys don't like Kesh and Bale but you didn't specific your negative rants and shitstorms. Most of your posts are directed at FCC as a whole and since I set up a clever pun, you burned a lot of bridges (bridgeburners! BRD! Hahahahaha) that could have helped you. I know Occitan and FCC had a few talks about peace, but they reverted to continuing the Old War alongside Hospy. Hospy and FCC are fighting because of Lordark declaring war on the first or second day of this strategus round, then officially started the battles when Hospies attacked one of the FCC's traders.

Being friendly and working with the one faction that you guys needed to fight VE would have been a much better tactic than the option you chose, which was using a dishonorable propaganda campaign to get FCC removed from the map. Your choice backfired on you and you should be responsible for it, instead you aim to point fingers at anyone else. This shouldn't be a shock to you at all, because I've heard Smoothrich talk about this happening back in November during the great BIRD WAR. Instead of taking the time to prepare for this situation that you knew about, you guys chose to rage-lord.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on February 07, 2013, 09:55:57 pm
I don't think anyone is complaining about you attacking Hobb, obvious to everyone it was gonna happen sooner or later so who cares let's just have some fun?


Personally I would rather lose wars than fight with clans of people who I don't like to "win strategus"(not directed at you specifically, but it is the case for majority of your clan)
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Smoothrich on February 07, 2013, 10:06:15 pm
I really honestly don't have any control or even much knowledge about what the FCC is now doing in strat. I get asked to sign up for battles and I either show up or play SS13. But if you wanted them (FCC) to help you fight VE then better diplomacy should have been your goal. So I'm speaking as an independent observer.

Leaders of HeroHospyOcciChev, I know you guys don't like Kesh and Bale but you didn't specific your negative rants and shitstorms. Most of your posts are directed at FCC as a whole and since I set up a clever pun, you burned a lot of bridges (bridgeburners! BRD! Hahahahaha) that could have helped you. I know Occitan and FCC had a few talks about peace, but they reverted to continuing the Old War alongside Hospy. Hospy and FCC are fighting because of Lordark declaring war on the first or second day of this strategus round, then officially started the battles when Hospies attacked one of the FCC's traders.

Being friendly and working with the one faction that you guys needed to fight VE would have been a much better tactic than the option you chose, which was using a dishonorable propaganda campaign to get FCC removed from the map. Your choice backfired on you and you should be responsible for it, instead you aim to point fingers at anyone else. This shouldn't be a shock to you at all, because I've heard Smoothrich talk about this happening back in November during the great BIRD WAR. Instead of taking the time to prepare for this situation that you knew about, you guys chose to rage-lord.

Dude, the problem was Kesh and a few others calling us out for cheating, hacking, exploiting, and being shit literally every time we did anything for months.  No one started anything or had any problems, it simply became a tsunami of shit from Kesh's keyboard and mouth insulting us, and a few brownnosers like MURDERTRON who don't know what's going on but believe Kesh.  This started within a day of wanting to fight LLJK/Bird Clan for no reason.  He's awful with regards to Strat, bitter arrogant and curiously vitriolic, and seen as your leader, so...

Regardless not asking for help here myself, I'm just calling turtle clans (you know who you are) out for being useless and hoping world war happens.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 07, 2013, 10:13:26 pm
I think I have finally figured it out.

Huey was able to balance out Kesh's shitposting. Now that he is gone the FCC scale has been tipped all the way to the shit posting side.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Smoothrich on February 07, 2013, 10:26:00 pm
I think I have finally figured it out.

Huey was able to balance out Kesh's shitposting. Now that he is gone the FCC scale has been tipped all the way to the shit posting side.

I've said this a few times, haha.  "FCC are all cool, but without Huey around, and so much Kesh.."  Instead of looking like chill bros, 90 percent of my interaction with FCC has been their members or leaders accusing us of cheating and hacking and other stupid shit.  Just angry nerd ranting, with Kesh getting insanely hostile without provocation.  I had no choice but to turn from friend-to-troll of FCC, seeing the reactions I got.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Trillian on February 07, 2013, 10:30:54 pm
Dude, the problem was Kesh and a few others calling us out for cheating, hacking, exploiting, and being shit literally every time we did anything for months.  No one started anything or had any problems, it simply became a tsunami of shit from Kesh's keyboard and mouth insulting us, and a few brownnosers like MURDERTRON who don't know what's going on but believe Kesh.  This started within a day of wanting to fight LLJK/Bird Clan for no reason.  He's awful with regards to Strat, bitter arrogant and curiously vitriolic, and seen as your leader, so...

Regardless not asking for help here myself, I'm just calling turtle clans (you know who you are) out for being useless and hoping world war happens.

I'm sorry, were you talking about Kesh or yourself?  I got confused by the identical accusations.  Well, except that you whine more.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: SHinOCk on February 07, 2013, 10:33:28 pm
im tired of this occitan sob story. You guys have almost as many troops as us if not more, and you are on defense.

Do we have the advantage? Yes.
Do use diplomacy to better ourselves? Yes.

You cry on the forums about our size before any battles have even happened.

The first time robert showed his nipples on these forums was for our last defense in the previous strat. We were outnumbered way more than you are now and had less castles and no towns or allies with any land. But when strat ended we had both of our castles and more troops and gear then we did when we started. Yah i can stretch my E-peen too.

Why? because defense is easy mode, ask the new UIF in there attempt to kill the old UIF. Why not let a few sieges happen before you start crying? I think bulugha castle was on siege 7 or 8 when hospitaller quit coming for more and we were carting excess gear to our other castle

oh and for those of you who forgot:
(click to show/hide)

im down with the forum wars, absolutely love em, but do you guys really want to take the QQ road?


My question is wtf are you talking about... I don't think most of us have been crying about anything concerning this war yet. All i did was state facts. Did i go around crying to have support from everybody else on the map to put it up your asses? Hell no and i won't. All i did was say what i think and i think you guys have too much land and too much economical power And that every time you roll over a clan, there's less and less chances that the remaining can match your strength.

Were not done yet and if it has to come to this, we will go down fighting, you don't have to worry about that
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on February 07, 2013, 10:38:39 pm
Everybody really has to stop accusing other people of whining. It's shitty.

Like, I asked for Arowaine to change his nighttime 2 hours ahead because I thought it would be better for the community and better for them. Course, I was wrong and we lost 1.2k shiny troops from an 8am fight, but I REALLY thought they would be the ones to get screwed.

In response, Arowaine told me that we were all fat, whiny welfare babies that played cRPG 24/7 and couldn't possibly have families, lives, jobs, etc.

On the other side of the coin, Les Chevalier Occitan really hasn't done much whining either. It's shitty to accuse somebody of whining....because that is, in fact, a whine in of itself.

So yeah guys, you really gotta stop that shit. I hate to be the "GUISE STOP FIGHTING IT MAKES ME UPSET" but call eachother names or some bullshit. It doesn't much matter, just comon, don't accuse people of cheating, don't say they're whining, and don't bring IRL shit into it. Nobody is really whining until they're whining ABOUT WHINING.

Oh, and as an after-thought, calling people multi-accounters is pretty shit. Yeah, I can understand why you'd think that, and I really can't tell if you're just doing the whole forum trollan' thing, but I've pretty much had personal experience with the "multi-accounts" in question. I'm not going to divulge proof because it's not my right nor my place to do so, but comon man. Don't call hax. The only thing I can recall where Kesh or anyone accused you of shit are those stupid field battles where you threw ladders everywhere and it wasn't accepted at the time.

Oh, and that time BADPLAYER had like 90480917410923810 crates.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Smoothrich on February 07, 2013, 10:39:56 pm
I'm sorry, were you talking about Kesh or yourself?  I got confused by the identical accusations.  Well, except that you whine more.

Oh, Kesh was and probably still is a multiaccounter, along with a few of your other members.  There's no doubt about that.  Only a matter of when they get permabanned for it.  Besides that, no one really cares. 

Oh right, Trillian is one of Kesh's multiaccounts, lmao
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on February 07, 2013, 10:43:40 pm
I'm sorry, were you talking about Kesh or yourself?  I got confused by the identical accusations.  Well, except that you whine more.

Why hello Kesh's "girlfriend"!

Good lord, I am bored with diplomacy.

I wonder how you can be bored of diplomacy when you are new to strategus..

Newer player here.  How do I actually join strategus?
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Smoothrich on February 07, 2013, 10:46:16 pm
Newer player here.  How do I actually join strategus?

Isn't transferring gold, troops, and gear obtained from cheating (multi-accounting) a form of cheating like if someone duplicated a bunch of gold/gear then transferred it to you and you then used it???  I don't who Occitan is, but I already have a very low opinion of them as essentially cheaters after looking at what they are doing.

If they had any sense of integrity they would allow those fiefs to be attacked by their enemies who would face whoever the AI hired.  Of course it is amazing how much people can rationalize away their integrity when it involves their side possibly losing (which they should have lost already if not for massive amounts of cheating in every strategus from what I have heard).

Occitan - permanent -1 in my book as a clan not to be trusted not to cheat or help cheaters if losing is at risk

Angy long-winded rants about clans cheating within 3 days of joining Strateegus????  They grow up os FAstT
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Gmnotutoo on February 07, 2013, 10:52:04 pm
I don't think anyone is complaining about you attacking Hobb, obvious to everyone it was gonna happen sooner or later so who cares let's just have some fun?

Personally I would rather lose wars than fight with clans of people who I don't like to "win strategus"(not directed at you specifically, but it is the case for majority of your clan)

Thanks for clarifying, but there is only one person in my strat clan and that is me. I attacked Tugboat of Kutt for being an ass-hat for my own reasons and then had a couple battles with Hospy under Khorin's command when HP was at war with Hospitaller. My decisions to help LLJK, then Hero Party, then Bird Clan, and various other factions were because they were the underdog. I'm not playing strat to win, I'm playing to surprise random people with ninjas throwing smokebombs at them once in a while. I'm here to have fun.

I owned Vayejeg at the start and traded it to the FCC for a future fief that I would claim after I returned from my war with the Josho Shogunate. Khorin gave me 400 some troops, but after that my entire army, gold, and equipment are self generated. I've tried to be as legit in my independence as possible.

I even signed up on Hospitaller's side when Plague went rouge. :3 I'm still awaiting my merc payment for going 9/3 for you guys, but I get the feeling I'll never receive it.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Trillian on February 07, 2013, 10:54:29 pm
Angy long-winded rants about clans cheating within 3 days of joining Strateegus????  They grow up os FAstT

Okay, #1:
It was my first experience with a battle and listening to Kesh talk to people on TS was boring me so I wrote that Ismirala thing. 

#2:
I really didn't know how to join strategus.  This game is not user-friendly.

That one from November 7th?  Copy and pasting Kesh. 

As for cheating: honestly, I wouldn't even know how to cheat.  I can barely master blocking.  (Ask Rogue.  I probably made him cry with my fail.)

Plus, people in TS know I'm real. 

Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Smoothrich on February 07, 2013, 11:02:21 pm
Okay, #1:
It was my first experience with a battle and listening to Kesh talk to people on TS was boring me so I wrote that Ismirala thing. 

#2:
I really didn't know how to join strategus.  This game is not user-friendly.

That one from November 7th?  Copy and pasting Kesh. 

As for cheating: honestly, I wouldn't even know how to cheat.  I can barely master blocking.  (Ask Rogue.  I probably made him cry with my fail.)

Much like the dozen or more posts on your forum account that were deleted, then Kesh posted something Strat related an hour or two later? 

Its rather obvious he uses your Strategus account constantly, and has accidently posted from your account after managing your Strat character from the web page.  Also, the fake "im new but ___ are cheaters" is weird and suspcious.  In fact, that post was  deleted, but only saved because I quoted it to make fun of the rager.

Basically, what you/Kesh/several other FCC people have been doing is against the rules, and Kesh has been the giddiest person seeing russian clans get banned for multi accounting, because he knows he gets away with it.  I hope you don't have any heirlooms or attachment to your character, because they will be getting permabanned because of Kesh's actions eventually.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on February 07, 2013, 11:10:53 pm
Much like the dozen or more posts on your forum account that were deleted, then Kesh posted something Strat related an hour or two later? 

Its rather obvious he uses your Strategus account constantly, and has accidently posted from your account after managing your Strat character from the web page.  Also, the fake "im new but ___ are cheaters" is weird and suspcious.  In fact, that post was  deleted, but only saved because I quoted it to make fun of the rager.

Basically, what you/Kesh/several other FCC people have been doing is against the rules, and Kesh has been the giddiest person seeing russian clans get banned for multi accounting, because he knows he gets away with it.  I hope you don't have any heirlooms or attachment to your character, because they will be getting permabanned because of Kesh's actions eventually.

That road is really a fucking slippery one, friend.

For all you know, I could have my buddy named Forrest stop by my house on his way to work and school, log on my PC, and move my motherfucker on strat. Of course it's going to be suspect if two or more players actually do live together and they're in the same faction, but what the fuck can you do?

You're forced to either deal with it, basically. You can't install monitoring in their home, you can't install face or fingerprint recognition. It's seriously UNENFORCABLE.

Multiple CD keys simply being manipulated as Greys did is a much simpler affair. However, when you're dealing with actual people that do, in fact, play this game and strategus, how the fuck can you enforce them not fucking with oneanother's accounts?

YOU CAN'T.

This is such a miniscule issue it shouldn't even be discussed because it just pisses both parties off. Do you really think that FCC gets an advantage because they've got a grand fucking total of TWO suspect players that have been near-proven to be actual people?

Comon man. Git yer shit together.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Trillian on February 07, 2013, 11:13:31 pm
I really don't care about any of this.  I just like being in battles (where I'm the bestest human shield) and move myself around strat when Kesh tells me.  I'm a real person (unless we start an existential debate, but then all of reality is called into question) and I like attempting to hit virtual people with my virtual sword.  (When do I get to shield-bash?  That seems like something I could do.)

Also, it's a little insulting that you think Kesh and I are the same person.  My grammar, spelling, even my syntax is far superior. 

*drops mic and walks off stage*
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Smoothrich on February 07, 2013, 11:20:42 pm

This is such a miniscule issue it shouldn't even be discussed because it just pisses both parties off. Do you really think that FCC gets an advantage because they've got a grand fucking total of TWO suspect players that have been near-proven to be actual people?

Comon man. Git yer shit together.

No, but when Kesh collects the spare CD keys of every FCC member, it starts to become a problem, and its kind of silly that they were allowed to get away with it for so long.  Were you around when Kesh was literally multiboxing cRPG accounts for XP by logging into various servers at once?  He only got worse from there, and used FCC cd keys as his playthings.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Arathian on February 07, 2013, 11:21:00 pm
You guys need to have a massive orgy already.

Would help relieve all this tension.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on February 07, 2013, 11:25:35 pm
2:28 AM <REDACTED> I know mos tof them had multiple keys.
2:29 AM <REDACTED> and kesh would definitely multiaccount tons of them at at the same time lol
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Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on February 07, 2013, 11:32:13 pm
No, but when Kesh collects the spare CD keys of every FCC member, it starts to become a problem, and its kind of silly that they were allowed to get away with it for so long.  Were you around when Kesh was literally multiboxing cRPG accounts for XP by logging into various servers at once?  He only got worse from there, and used FCC cd keys as his playthings.

I'm new here.

But for real, I'm kinda new here. I don't know about shit that went on way back when and I don't give too many fucks about it either. I work a hell of a lot closer on strat with FCC than you (being their vassal and all) and I can think for myself. Haven't seen a lick of anything sketchy from them that hasn't been dispelled.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Malaclypse on February 07, 2013, 11:44:59 pm
Trillian's deleted posts (except for the marketplace ones) do seem kind of fishy, or at least make me think, "why u do dis?"
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 07, 2013, 11:49:05 pm
trillian are you clever in game? And im guessimg bangbros_busty?


Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Goretooth on February 07, 2013, 11:52:34 pm
Trillian's deleted posts (except for the marketplace ones) do seem kind of fishy, or at least make me think, "why u do dis?"
that does need some explaining. I've been in FCC ts plenty and never seen a Trillian. Would be funny to see the whistle blower kesh get in trouble for multi-accounting. I really doubt anyone else in FCC would do it but him probably.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 07, 2013, 11:57:32 pm
that does need some explaining. I've been in FCC ts plenty and never seen a Trillian. Would be funny to see the whistle blower kesh get in trouble for multi-accounting. I really doubt anyone else in FCC would do it but him probably.

I have heard other people say they have been in strat battles with kesh commanding while playing from other accounts.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Artyem on February 08, 2013, 12:01:41 am
I have heard other people say they have been in strat battles with kesh commanding while playing from other accounts.

Which is odd, I've merced for them almost every time (since I'm their vassal, as Sandy stated) and have never seen this be the case.  I'd like to see some real evidence supporting your beaten horse of an accusation.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: BaleOhay on February 08, 2013, 12:23:25 am
Trill is kesh's girlfriend and she does come into TS sometimes. Plenty of people can verify it, I think arowaine was in our TS the other day and she was talking in the background. Regardless. She does exist. Check some strat fights and you will see both her and kesh in the battle.

As for kesh getting multiple keys from our members that just plain wrong.

So your main gripe with kesh is that he accuses you of cheating with no proof.... yet every time you mention his name it is to try and slander fcc and kesh specifically with the same.

Smooth and Kesh the two of you at this point likely have zero credibility with the community. I would like to think my rep stands heads and tails above yet. I fight for my side but I do it without trolling it up and stepping in the gutter.

Your sound logic makes me want to be your friend.

Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 08, 2013, 12:50:36 am
Kesh's girlfriend is about as real as Manti Te'Os.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Smoothrich on February 08, 2013, 12:53:06 am
Kesh's girlfriend is about as real as Manti Te'Os.

I started calling her Kesh's twitter girlfriend.  Suddenly, I got 1000 retweets of different accounts from 1 IP saying I was a liar.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Bronto on February 08, 2013, 01:08:17 am
Veluca Empire is Hitl3r, and we are all the Jews.

you all talk too much. all I read was this and it was a good enough explanation for me! also, lol!
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 08, 2013, 02:24:17 am
If you guys overlook anything smooth and kesh say in relation to strat, everything gets WAY better.

Then you read their posts and have a good laugh, enjoy yourself and then fight in battles and walk away being happy.

Honestly, I've called both kesh and smooth shit on forums, yet, otherwise I STILL work with them. It's just the way it is. their personality on the forums are SO DIFFERENT than their personalities elsewhere.

OH and Gmnotutoo:
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I even signed up on Hospitaller's side when Plague went rouge. :3 I'm still awaiting my merc payment for going 9/3 for you guys, but I get the feeling I'll never receive it.

Best people who pay are:
Fimbulvetr
FCC
HP(blackzilla pays nice I always merc for him!)

Other clans pay rarely or not at all. Some I haven't fought for enough to make a valid statement, but Hosp has a track record of NOT paying.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on February 08, 2013, 03:05:07 am
Other clans pay rarely or not at all. Some I haven't fought for enough to make a valid statement, but Hosp has a track record of NOT paying.

They pay the people who top the scoreboard, most battles for them they pay me the max amount.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 08, 2013, 03:15:53 am
They pay the people who top the scoreboard, most battles for them they pay me the max amount.

Well then, that would be best players. But if someone applies for pay, they should pay. But they don't. I've been paid...like once out of all the battles that I asked for pay for them.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Tears of Destiny on February 08, 2013, 03:38:49 am
...90 percent of my interaction with FCC has been their members or leaders accusing us of cheating and hacking and other stupid shit.  Just angry nerd ranting...
Oh the irony, anyone else amused by this statement? This pretty much describes your last page of recent posts, and quite a few others as well.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Goretooth on February 08, 2013, 05:38:58 am
If you guys overlook anything smooth and kesh say in relation to strat, everything gets WAY better.

Then you read their posts and have a good laugh, enjoy yourself and then fight in battles and walk away being happy.

Honestly, I've called both kesh and smooth shit on forums, yet, otherwise I STILL work with them. It's just the way it is. their personality on the forums are SO DIFFERENT than their personalities elsewhere.

OH and Gmnotutoo:
Best people who pay are:
Fimbulvetr
FCC
HP(blackzilla pays nice I always merc for him!)

Other clans pay rarely or not at all. Some I haven't fought for enough to make a valid statement, but Hosp has a track record of NOT paying.
An FCC leader was offering to pay me a lot to throw a battle during a castle siege on the other side. You are right they do pay well but I turned them down. Was during my merc days.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Aztek on February 08, 2013, 03:50:52 pm
Well then, that would be best players. But if someone applies for pay, they should pay. But they don't. I've been paid...like once out of all the battles that I asked for pay for them.

Not sure about the others but I try and pay out, but it never works, I'm rank 10 but the only time I was able to pay was months ago, Now it just seemed bugged for me.. That battle with killing plaque, we had 3 of us try and send out money but it never worked regardless of browser, having the cash on us or rank.

Sorry to those who we may have offended, Either were just noobs that are missing something obvious while trying to pay out, or a weird bug set upon us at times : /
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 08, 2013, 04:16:33 pm
Well you DO have to have the money to pay for it. And, if I'm correct, the BATTLE COMMANDER has to do it, whether it be a fief or a land battle. The OWNER is the one who pays.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Malaclypse on February 08, 2013, 09:54:30 pm
Well you DO have to have the money to pay for it. And, if I'm correct, the BATTLE COMMANDER has to do it, whether it be a fief or a land battle. The OWNER is the one who pays.

This is the case.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Turboflex on February 08, 2013, 10:58:58 pm
Not for fief. I was able to pay you for the New Zagush battle and I didn't own it. Unless it's just cuz we lost it.
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Post by: BaleOhay on February 09, 2013, 12:52:20 am
yes the guy moving the army has to do the paying.
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Post by: Jaren on February 09, 2013, 01:25:03 am
I don't know about that, I just payed out to most of the people who asked for yesterdays battles. I  lead 1 of the 4.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: MURDERTRON on February 09, 2013, 01:28:58 am
The behavior is a little strange, I've been able to pay people out for really old battles some of the time, but not for others.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Smoothrich on February 09, 2013, 02:38:13 am
Nobody came for Tydeus, and he still decided to leave Hero Party with 3k troops and over a million of gold after refusing to fight any battles, apparently to sell our Strategus equipment for cRPG gold before he actually had to fight anything.  Boo this man!
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 09, 2013, 05:24:26 am
Nobody came for Tydeus, and he still decided to leave Hero Party with 3k troops and over a million of gold after refusing to fight any battles, apparently to sell our Strategus equipment for cRPG gold before he actually had to fight anything.  Boo this man!

Bounty?
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Smoothrich on February 09, 2013, 09:09:38 am
Bounty?

I can guarantee you roughly 3k heavily armed troops worthy of XP if you find and attack him.  He's looking to either sell his shit or attack a random clan who isn't expecting it, so feel free to take him out before he gets the chance!
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: ArysOakheart on February 09, 2013, 09:50:52 am
I can guarantee you roughly 3k heavily armed troops worthy of XP if you find and attack him.  He's looking to either sell his shit or attack a random clan who isn't expecting it, so feel free to take him out before he gets the chance!

I'm glad we can rely on NA admins to be trustworthy to one another.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Goretooth on February 09, 2013, 10:17:30 am
I'm glad we can rely on NA admins to be trustworthy to one another.
He shouldn't be one.
http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-admin-feedback/(na)-tydeus/45/
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 09, 2013, 02:48:04 pm
Oh boy! Here he comes. lets see what he up and decides to do.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on February 09, 2013, 06:10:06 pm
Nobody came for Tydeus, and he still decided to leave Hero Party with 3k troops and over a million of gold after refusing to fight any battles, apparently to sell our Strategus equipment for cRPG gold before he actually had to fight anything.  Boo this man!

Almost as if this happened last Strategus with that old LLJK clan too.

Makes you think.


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Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Tanken on February 09, 2013, 06:44:54 pm
I don't know if the whole debate about whether or not Trillian is a real person is still going on, but coming from me (and I still semi-hate FCC) I can confirm that Trillian is in fact a real, bonerfied, woman. Kinzie and her used to talk a lot, mainly about similarities and differences between me and Kesh's pecker size, but she is real.



However, the potential usage of her account for other means is highly possible, and does seem suspicious some of the activity that's been pointed out. That in itself is kind of fishy, but as Sandy said "Good luck proving anything." (or something like that)
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Smoothrich on February 09, 2013, 08:15:57 pm
Almost as if this happened last Strategus with that old LLJK clan too.

Makes you think.


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You mean when a bunch of people in our faction who didn't play cRPG or hang out in the same vent as us decided to stop helping the clan to grief and troll and you thought they were terrible and wanted to attack them for it?  It does make you think.  Tydeus is the new Zealot, and you're his Damug.

Anways Badplayer is attempting to betray Hero Party at the moment by stealing Tydeus's castle (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2341), resetting the PP, and presumably selling it to FCC or another one of our enemies since Shik and Tydeus also left the faction after months of inactivity.  These three people forgot that Semenstorm is the most elite Strategus clan in the game, and we will begin daring rescue operations to liberate the 4000 dupe-bugged innocent civilians of Samarra castle from their terrorism immediately.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Matey on February 09, 2013, 08:26:59 pm
I think it's funny that Huey is the one people think balanced our PR image in the past. Back when I actually played and was active I used to do my best to make Kesh run any posts through me before he made em and then told him not to post at all or to drastically redo his posts. But since I haven't been playing and since strat is no fun without enemies, it just made more sense this round to release the Keshian.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Aztek on February 09, 2013, 10:19:22 pm
^^^^^^^^^

Anyone have a severed Medusa head kicking around? 
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Post by: Digglez on February 09, 2013, 11:24:42 pm
*que Ewok victory music*
YUB NUB
YUB NUB
YUB NUB




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Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Kelugarn on February 09, 2013, 11:43:57 pm
I'd post some hilarious Ewok horns, but I don't feel like getting muted for a month.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Oberyn on February 10, 2013, 12:06:15 am
Why do clans with Smoothrich in a position of authority always end up splitting appart and imploding with various groups calling each other traitors and spergs?
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Dach on February 10, 2013, 01:18:02 am
I think if you search carefully in your own post, you will find the answer...  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: BaleOhay on February 10, 2013, 05:04:52 am
Matey this was my round to be the kesh monitor and I generally tell him to fling and zing and lets see what happens.

Kesh and Smooth both post some crazy stuff that polarizes the forum one way or the other. Kesh likes to stir things up to try and get people to react a certain way... The frogs comment was in hopes we could get OCc/HP/Hosp to come attack us. The way to tell the difference between kesh and smooth is really easy.. every few months kesh's clan and friends remain his clan and friends.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Gmnotutoo on February 10, 2013, 06:25:14 am
I think it's funny that Huey is the one people think balanced our PR image in the past. Back when I actually played and was active I used to do my best to make Kesh run any posts through me before he made em and then told him not to post at all or to drastically redo his posts. But since I haven't been playing and since strat is no fun without enemies, it just made more sense this round to release the Keshian.

Combatidick stole my birthday present clam. Faraway Vagina town belongs to me for I am the only true ruler of the Faraway Vagina. Chucky you have 1 day to remedy this... or else I just might...

RELEASE THE KESHIAN!!!!


Clearly by my evidence here it isn't the fault of the FCC or myself, but the Hospitaller's are clearly to blame for the Keshian being released.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on February 10, 2013, 04:03:01 pm
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release the Keshian

Yes oh my god.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Mae. on February 10, 2013, 06:37:10 pm
i just need to say i love this community, i love your forum drama and sillies, and thank you for all the xp i will receive today. Will you all be my valentine?
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Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 11, 2013, 03:31:48 pm
So since I'm married I can have "my wife play" strategus?  What a great deal, getting another copy of Warband tonight.

Why not just make a rule, one CD key per MAC address.  No exceptions...

If you only have one computer, you shouldn't need more than one Warband account on it.  Make your friend, brother, SO play on your account.  There's no down side to this (aside from they can't play in strategus on an alt, but they can't play when you're playing anyways)
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Freland on February 11, 2013, 04:35:57 pm
Why not just make a rule, one CD key per MAC address.

As far as I know it is not possible to get the mac address of someone accessing your website without manipulating the user's browser via activex or some kind of plugin.
It's also possible to change your MAC address (not the real physical one but the one your OS is sending)
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Matey on February 11, 2013, 05:18:37 pm
Then there are couples who have their own computers. For example kesh was playin on a shitty laptop while trillian played on an a actual good PC, though I'm pretty sure kesh has bought anew PC since then.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Hobb on February 11, 2013, 05:55:15 pm
I see who wears the pants in that relationship
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Keshian on February 11, 2013, 06:08:57 pm
I see who wears the pants in that relationship

Fuck you - some guys like to wear dresses okay.


And yeah her laptop is beast but then I got an awesome desktop to put her laptop to shame, but she keeps stealing it now to play morrowind, skyrim, civ 5, or legos star wars
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on February 11, 2013, 07:00:08 pm
Goddamn, I love strat drama. And strat in general.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: MURDERTRON on February 11, 2013, 10:02:06 pm
So since I'm married I can have "my wife play" strategus?  What a great deal, getting another copy of Warband tonight.

Why not just make a rule, one CD key per MAC address.  No exceptions...

If you only have one computer, you shouldn't need more than one Warband account on it.  Make your friend, brother, SO play on your account.  There's no down side to this (aside from they can't play in strategus on an alt, but they can't play when you're playing anyways)

This is a bad idea, every network device has a different MAC address, so if you connected to wifi or Ethernet, you'd be stuck doing just that one way or face a ban or it wouldn't let you play.  Filtering by IP is also bad, because people change modems, which gives a new IP, travel or visit friends' houses.  So basically there is no good way to stop anything but the most obvious multi accounting.  From a developers point of view, such stringent rules would reduce sales.  Now the crpg team doesn't care about Warband sales, but when they go standalone, every multi account is another sale.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Tears of Destiny on February 11, 2013, 10:22:12 pm
Now the crpg team doesn't care about Warband sales, but when they go standalone, every multi account is another sale.
The best thing for games is to make multi-accounts not matter as much, like EVE or any of the other multitude of games.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 11, 2013, 10:34:54 pm
This is a bad idea, every network device has a different MAC address, so if you connected to wifi or Ethernet, you'd be stuck doing just that one way or face a ban or it wouldn't let you play.  Filtering by IP is also bad, because people change modems, which gives a new IP, travel or visit friends' houses.  So basically there is no good way to stop anything but the most obvious multi accounting.  From a developers point of view, such stringent rules would reduce sales.  Now the crpg team doesn't care about Warband sales, but when they go standalone, every multi account is another sale.

I was referring not to the network device MAC address, but the originating computer's MAC address, which is easy enough to spoof if you really wanted to.  I just can't see that many people going to that length to have an extra char on the strategus overview, and if they do so be it.  But it's something that's easy enough to detect a MAC address by someone hosting a game server.


I agree with ToD (surprise surprise), would be better if multi account wasn't as big of a deal as it is now.  It currently is a very big advantage to be able to control 2 chars on the strat map.  You're twice as efficient.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Freland on February 11, 2013, 10:49:11 pm
I was referring not to the network device MAC address, but the originating computer's MAC address, which is easy enough to spoof if you really wanted to.
I'm sorry but you are confusing some things here. There is no such thing as a computer MAC address. Only network devices have a MAC address.

But it's something that's easy enough to detect a MAC address by someone hosting a game server.
The MAC address is not part of the HTTP request bewtween the client'S browser and the web server. You cannot access it if the user doesn't use some kind of tool to tell it to you.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Bronto on February 11, 2013, 10:57:23 pm
I'm sorry but you are confusing some things here. There is no such thing as a computer MAC address. Only network devices have a MAC address.
The MAC address is not part of the HTTP request bewtween the client'S browser and the web server. You cannot access it if the user doesn't use some kind of tool to tell it to you.


Dude, i hope that avatar is you IRL, because if it is, you just won the medieval larp Olympics.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Syls on February 12, 2013, 02:40:47 am

Dude, i hope that avatar is you IRL, because if it is, you just won the medieval larp Olympics.

I hope YOUR avatar is you, cause if that's you, you won life  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Bronto on February 12, 2013, 03:33:06 am
It is...I'm a dinosaur.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Tomas on February 12, 2013, 04:10:11 am
I'm sorry but you are confusing some things here. There is no such thing as a computer MAC address. Only network devices have a MAC address.

Actually all computers do effectively have individual MAC addresses because they must have an internal network device themselves to connect to the modem or router. 

However MAC addresses can be easily spoofed or hidden and i think by default someone external to my LAN will only ever see my router's MAC address and not the MAC addresses of the individual network cards in the computers.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Gristle on February 12, 2013, 07:25:53 am
The way to tell the difference between kesh and smooth is really easy.. every few months kesh's clan and friends remain his clan and friends.

Beautiful. A+ post.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: BoneSaw on February 12, 2013, 07:56:25 am
Nerds
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: Malaclypse on February 12, 2013, 07:57:34 am
Nerds

You tell em Betty.
Title: Re: First they came for...
Post by: ArysOakheart on February 12, 2013, 11:34:41 am
Betty.

Betsy.

(In which Canary, is in lines with the Diplomacy thread, as she is a main diplomatic member aka religious/faith icon of our clan)