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Title: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Redemption on April 29, 2011, 05:53:07 am
So what's your opinion on the new thrust for polearms, website, nerfs, buffs and about everything else that you noticed has changed?

In my own opinion I like it because of the sweet character page now, and now certain items take up more slots. Which will restrict what you can be by a lot.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Barman1942 on April 29, 2011, 05:56:12 am
I welcome the archery buffs and the quicker 1H buffs, but the repair system is totally FUBAR right now. Everything is expensive to repair, which would make sense if you rarely took damage...but it's a melee based game, you're *always* going to take some hits when you get into a fight. You'll work up 8k gold to repair your armor, repair it, then play for an hour to make that gold back only to have to spend it all on repairing your armor again!

That, and I've had bits of armor get damaged even when I haven't had a single fight/fall.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Patricia on April 29, 2011, 06:07:28 am
First impression is shit.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Turkhammer on April 29, 2011, 06:11:37 am
First impression is shit.

I understand why your awesomeness is -43 now.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Turkhammer on April 29, 2011, 06:12:51 am
I noticed that the Long Espada Eslanova is missing from my inventory.  Hopefully that is an oversight that can be corrected.
Other than that I like the new page.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: tankmen on April 29, 2011, 06:14:11 am
cavalry is dead....id say well ill retire n go 1h crossbow because i still have my masterwork xbow BUUUUUUT i had 76k starting today buuuut im at 48k n i wore only peasant cloths.... so cant play til that's fixed..... sadly i will be getting athletics next gen due to cavalry being dead, i hope lance thrust gets fixed.... because 2h just has to jump out of the path of the horse and you cant reach em.....then kill the rider with a side swing... am sad..... also throwing lances are still here, massive disappointment.... so what to do while i wait? pray it gets fixed? find a god to pray to? guess ill play league of legends and world of tanks....
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Thucydides on April 29, 2011, 06:14:51 am
Yeah i lost 10k playing for 45 minutes using 45k worth of equipment. Jesus christ.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: tankmen on April 29, 2011, 06:21:14 am
my stuff was worth.... i think 6-7k due to heavy lance
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Siboire on April 29, 2011, 06:24:32 am
IMO the slots requirement is really great, for the longbow buff I find it gives the LB a purpose cuz before it was not worth it compared to warbow so these are the good things I saw beside the nice website theme and all.

Things that suck:
On the other end, I'm a pure polearmer and I find the new stab animation too fast and just wierd. I know it's new and all but its really just too fast right now it's pretty much the new lolstabbing. I can own so easily with my poleaxe by just poking around. And by the look of it, I was on siege and it became the new ez-lolstab fest it was not cool when I was doing it or receiving it.

Also, this other thing is totally breaking the game: the new upkeep. I was for 2 maps ALWAYS on 5x and even at 5x all the time, with a total value of my gear around 25 840 gold (was written on the website itself), I LOST 12k DURING THOSE 2 MAPS! This is just too much. Also with the bonus xp nerf, I don't understand why nerf this? At gen 9, im currently doing 6.2k of xp per tick at 5x when I was doing 9k like 4 hours ago! This is ridiculous... I feel like the time I spent playing did not really give me an advantage over the new players.

IMO, in resumé, the patch killed the fun of "older players" with the xp bonus nerf, it makes playing with decent gear impossible and just transformed polearms into lolstabmachines.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: SHinOCk on April 29, 2011, 06:28:28 am
Its still way too early to have a good opinion since there will be probably (hopefully) big tweaks, but the first impression is not so freat, i don't like the change to polearm stab at all and as for the new exp system O_o, it just seem like the new players will be even more scared to heirloom their crap and the veterans will be pissed off cause all their work to get high gen is gone to shit lol

We will see what the future holds
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Lizard_man on April 29, 2011, 06:29:45 am
well, give it chance, obviously there are some fixes that need to be made...
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Snickers on April 29, 2011, 06:33:26 am
The slots idea is just stupid, i doesn't allow me to use my war bow a set of arrow and a sword.

Retiring now is just plain pointless now, since it barley add anything and Its literally impossible to make money.
Bring back the old version, i bet within a month 75% of the veteran players will be like " Fuck this" and leave.
 
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: tankmen on April 29, 2011, 06:37:01 am
ya please do heirloom reset, heavy lance is useless, my horse is then pointless and since 1h seems unharmed despite the OP swords (side sword) i guess ill heirloom my knightly arming and use my master work Derp bow(sniper). 1H XBOW EVERY BODY YAY karma was prepared... i just didnt realized id get fucked so hard, i thought the bastard sword isnt a huge sword 1 slot at best so heavy lance 2 slots heavy bastard n shield  NOPE.  honestly i am glad i got back in the mood to play league of legends,  ILL BE THERE TIL THIS SHITS STRAIGHTENED OUT ..
 or play fire n sword SP, which leads me to my conspiracy theory, in which tale worlds made chad fuck this mod up so bad every one would leave.... guess im buying fire n sword bullshit 
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Malaclypse on April 29, 2011, 06:37:25 am
At first glance, dislike. Added invisible weapons, gear. Q chat commands are very clunky. Never had an issue with previous polearm thrust, personally. Lost Masterwork Long Espada and am unable to purchase a new, unheirloomed one (leading me to believe I still own the sword, yet it doesn't show in my inventory). Lack of weight information on items on site. Upkeep is fubar.

I'm hoping some or all of these and more are addressed soon.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Patricia on April 29, 2011, 06:39:03 am
Ok, so everything in the game is now broken, archery was buffed up the ass, great.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Joseph on April 29, 2011, 06:40:23 am
ya please do heirloom reset, heavy lance is useless, my horse is then pointless and since 1h seems unharmed despite the OP swords (side sword) i guess ill heirloom my knightly arming and use my master work Derp bow(sniper). 1H XBOW EVERY BODY YAY karma was prepared... i just didnt realized id get fucked so hard, i thought the bastard sword isnt a huge sword 1 slot at best so heavy lance 2 slots heavy bastard n shield  NOPE.  honestly i am glad i got back in the mood to play league of legends,  ILL BE THERE TIL THIS SHITS STRAIGHTENED OUT ..
 or play fire n sword SP, which leads me to my conspiracy theory, in which tale worlds made chad fuck this mod up so bad every one would leave.... guess im buying fire n sword bullshit

Thank god, Fire & Sword is coming out soon, time to leave cRPG until strategus is back.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Barman1942 on April 29, 2011, 06:41:10 am
The slots idea is just stupid, i doesn't allow me to use my war bow a set of arrow and a sword.

Retiring now is just plain pointless now, since it barley add anything and Its literally impossible to make money.
Bring back the old version, i bet within a month 75% of the veteran players will be like " Fuck this" and leave.

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. An archer should be able to have a good 1h as a side-arm.

Seems this patch broke a loooot more than it fixed. Will wait for the fixes before I play again.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Zahmbomb on April 29, 2011, 06:46:23 am
 :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

I'm so very glad I spent 5 retirements fine tuning my cav build. *sarcasm*  I always wanted a MW Heavy Lance that pokes in one direction. *dripping w/ sarcasm*  I'm very excited that I took the time to grind for the nerfed XP bonus too. *oozing, seeping and pussing sarcasm*

I'm buying Fire and Sword

you've inspired me not to play cRPG.
 
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Siboire on April 29, 2011, 06:47:03 am
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. An archer should be able to have a good 1h as a side-arm.

Seems this patch broke a loooot more than it fixed. Will wait for the fixes before I play again.

this is to fix those archers that carries huge 2 hands or throwers with a big huscarl with a melee weapon. If u want to use warbow/longbow get used to have a 1h with one set of arrows or sacrifice the melee weapon for another set of arrows. Same thing with heavy xbow and sniper xbow. Look at DarkKarma, I'm sure he's doing great :) (beside the damm upkeep failure)


Edit: I just gave a try to the battle and "capture the flag" servers and they are now pretty much agi-spam fests.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Tennenoth on April 29, 2011, 06:51:10 am
I don't really know atm, I don't think accuracy on archery should have been increased, it was fine as it was while the changes in damage is a nice touch, it gives it a bit more purpose.

I personally think that 1hander/2handed weapons in the 2 handed section should be 1 slot, for the love of my longsword! :)

I've only really played on a purely archer dominated server so far, so I can't give an accurate opinion although i'm a little concerned that some people are running around as just a head :S That scared me to death when I suddenly got slaughtered by a floating sword + head xD

I'm not sure if the "hybrids" situation will go away just because some things have been put into 2 slots, its more an annoyance so far, but I guess we have to see how things pan out.

Also, good work with the website, that's brilliant! Very very well done indeed.

Finally, the faces, is there a way to change the texture pack back? It's just... disturbing and reduces my fps (as I have said many times already xD) by roughly 20.

Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Opium.dk on April 29, 2011, 06:53:53 am
Ok, so everything in the game is now broken, archery was buffed up the ass, great.

The "buff" to archery is not exactly a good thing, arrows are now so accurate that you have to be 100% accurate yourself.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Patricia on April 29, 2011, 06:56:26 am
The "buff" to archery is not exactly a good thing, arrows are now so accurate that you have to be 100% accurate yourself.

Because that's totally a bad thing.

My full strength 10 PD archer with 104 prof now has pin point accuracy with the warbow and kill anyone in 2 hits.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Opium.dk on April 29, 2011, 07:03:15 am
Because that's totally a bad thing.

My full strength 10 PD archer with 104 prof now has pin point accuracy with the warbow and kill anyone in 2 hits.

As you should be able to, if you can hit anyone.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: jspook on April 29, 2011, 07:03:21 am
Totally love the website tweaks.  Being able to see the MW results of everything in my inventory without having to guess or use the forums is awesome.

The patch seems great for us mele guys, even with a slight nerf on all of the weapon heirloom damages and speeds.  I cant comment on throwers or Cav or Archers, I dont play them.

A few bugs, like all of the invisible people wandering around with the glitched armor.  But I am sure we will see all of that smoothed out in the next week.
Not too happy about the gen xp bonus nerf, but thats the way it goes.

Still love my cRPG
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Barman1942 on April 29, 2011, 07:04:51 am
As you should be able to, if you can hit anyone.

No bow should do that much damage to plate armor at long range. Under 20 yards, yeah, but two-shotting a guy in plate at long distance is silly.

Heck, two-shotting someone in mail and padding at long-range is ridiculous, unless you get a head-shot.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on April 29, 2011, 07:06:32 am
Crossbows seem unaffected, except for the mammoth upkeep costs, even using my hunting crossbow, I was bleeding money out my arse. Loving th fact that daggers and the hammer take no slots.  :D
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Opium.dk on April 29, 2011, 07:12:01 am
No bow should do that much damage to plate armor at long range. Under 20 yards, yeah, but two-shotting a guy in plate at long distance is silly.

Heck, two-shotting someone in mail and padding at long-range is ridiculous, unless you get a head-shot.

If the guy has invested 10 PD in his bow, 2-3 hits should be enough, this aint real life, son!

Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Barman1942 on April 29, 2011, 07:14:34 am
If the guy has invested 10 PD in his bow, 2-3 hits should be enough, this aint real life, son!

True, true. But maybe without the pin-point accuracy the current patch gives. Having accuracy and power takes some of the challenge out of it.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Opium.dk on April 29, 2011, 07:18:35 am
True, true. But maybe without the pin-point accuracy the current patch gives. Having accuracy and power takes some of the challenge out of it.

The accuraty increase might not exactly make people hit more, before the patch you could just sorta aim close to people and 50% of the time you would hit them, but now your mouse movement needs to be as accurate as your bow.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: MountedRhader on April 29, 2011, 07:21:46 am
Thank god, Fire & Sword is coming out soon, time to leave cRPG until strategus is back.
Cavalry is dead..
My dreams of being a great long bardiche wielding knight are crushed.
Getting slaughtered by retards in invisible samurai armor.
half my heirlooms don't show.
Xp ticker is dead.
Losing money with red tunic and short spear.
My once lovely face is a mix of an alien with 3 foot mustasche and a giant chin.
My FPS sucks.
Polearm thrust looks like you are masterbating in a very hardcore fassion.
Still no strategus.
Archers have heat-seaking missiles (again).
Cant use a shield with other weapons at all anymore.
Long pike has a ghost reach of about 4'.
Still no rideable donkies.
Website doesnt work with chrome/firefox.
Can't join any servers.
1hand got a speed bonus.
Pikes can't be sheathed.
Lances turn wildly in a convoluted pattern when trying to hit anyone.

Enjoying yourself.. chadz? :mad:

Only good thing is my mustache is now bigger. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Veto on April 29, 2011, 07:21:51 am
GG crpg once again keeping the rich, richer and the poor, poorer; middle class = gone
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Bothersome_Aldryk on April 29, 2011, 07:23:05 am
On a casual glimpse I'm rather displeased. Only time will tell however :\.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: MrShovelFace on April 29, 2011, 07:24:43 am
GG crpg once again keeping the rich, richer and the poor, poorer; middle class = gone

your marxist theories dont apply here sir!!
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Zahmbomb on April 29, 2011, 07:27:27 am
GG crpg once again keeping the rich, richer and the poor, poorer; middle class = gone

I was the middle class
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Huey Newton on April 29, 2011, 07:36:31 am
Hybrids and Cavalry got completely f'ed in the A
the two funnest things in this game IMO got nerfed to shit
this patch is complete trash

every other nerf comes secondary IMO to these two things being completly ruined
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: tankmen on April 29, 2011, 07:49:32 am
WAIT GUYS WAIT......you can still be a pure pole arm , 1h , or 2her or archery(due to being OP again it seems). cav don't exist, throwers run out of ammo(good) and crossbow cost as much as horses except you can turn 360 when you use a crossbow, horsemen only get a 20 degree angle to stab from...
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Gorath on April 29, 2011, 07:54:12 am
or 2her

No.  Archer's have laser guided missles of instant death again and because of the upkeep I can't even wear my tribal warrior (far under even basic mail/lamellar armor) with just my warcleaver now without losing money hand over fist whether we have a multiplier or not.  1hers are faster, and polearm thrusts are the new lolstab being machinegunned around.

Retiring and going x-bow/1her with everyone else.  Or maybe polearm/shield to abuse the new lolstab.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Keshian on April 29, 2011, 08:49:54 am
Good update overall

My swords thrust is more realistic now
longbow is useable now
bows still slow and low damage (except longbow, which is very slow) and so balanced with decent accuracy
nice polearm animations and greater range than 2hers (like they should)
cool new weapons and armors
crushthrough gone for many 2hers
amount of throwing ammo and 2 slot item nerf

Like the changes, only 2 problems with it:
The xp/gold counter seems broken as some people in plate consistently making gold whil I and others were in light leather and cheap gear and losing it hand over fist.  Also, the xp is same as pre=patch on website, but not in-game.

the other thing is that it sounds like cav lancing form got changed too far.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Siiem on April 29, 2011, 09:03:17 am
Crossbows seem unaffected, except for the mammoth upkeep costs, even using my hunting crossbow, I was bleeding money out my arse. Loving th fact that daggers and the hammer take no slots.  :D

Crossbows are not unaffected, 149 crossbow WPF and my crosshair is twice as big as it was before this patch.

GJ make it even more pointless to invest wpp towards dedicated crossbower. Seems like this patch was all about removing crossbow users all together instead of actually balancing them.

And lets not forget about the new awesome upkeep... 1 round and 22k worth of gold is gone. Nice way to be introduced to a new patch when you join and play one round.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Nemeth on April 29, 2011, 09:23:27 am
160 wpf in crossbows, crosshair bigger than before the patch, -4 damage on hierloom, together with the higher upkeep, they sure are trying to make dedicated xbowers a rare sight.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: tankmen on April 29, 2011, 09:24:02 am
fuck your crossbows, horses are a myth
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: ManOfWar on April 29, 2011, 09:25:47 am
160 wpf in crossbows, crosshair bigger than before the patch, -4 damage on hierloom, together with the higher upkeep, they sure are trying to make dedicated xbowers a rare sight.

wow thats harsh
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Blondin on April 29, 2011, 11:08:16 am
Yeah this patch it's crap, dev should do something in next hotfix : plz nerf crying.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Candiru on April 29, 2011, 11:42:00 am
I think everything except for new armors is pure shit. This game sucks now...
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Momo on April 29, 2011, 12:09:38 pm
Where can I find the slot informaiton about the items? I can't see on the webstie, or am I completely blind?
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Magikarp on April 29, 2011, 12:17:23 pm
Seriously, why did cav need more nerfing?

We already got a bloody nerf to charging, making bumping people almost useless and deadly as hell.

Now our damage gets a nerf too, yet we couldnt even hit for that much damage on aware people anyway!

Our speed gets the biggest hit, now my lance is friggin slow, why? Just why? I spend weeks as a casual player to get my heirloom. Now my entire class is fucked. The long pike is a ridiculous addition, the pike is faster than my lance. Seriously? The only good thing is the 2 slot lance, THE ONLY.

So I ask one more time: why did archers get a buff when they were perfectly fine? Why didn't lolstabbers get the nerf they deserved?Why did cavalry take all the hits? Why are we still paying the highest repair bill while being transformed into the worst class in c-rpg history?
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Cepeshi on April 29, 2011, 12:31:34 pm
I will wait with poling and posting hate in here till i had enough time to try the actual patch out :P

i mean, there is thread where chadz asks what should be changed, go post there if you think your points are valid, useless to create million threads about the same shit
Title: what you LIKE about the update!
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on April 29, 2011, 12:37:58 pm
i guess we need to thank the devs too, they must be really morally down after this flood of complainments, maybe we just all write what we LIKE on the update!

i likes the stabbing animation and the new armors as well as the new game modes, thumbs up for that!  :P
Title: Re: what you LIKE about the update!
Post by: Daergar on April 29, 2011, 12:47:49 pm
Eh, I doubt anyone is "morally down" because raging children flood a forum with knee-jerk reactions; and for every one that complains loudly, there are ten who sit in silent approval.

That said, plenty of good things in the patch, just basic balance issues and bug fixes to be done. As with any patch for any game or mod.
Title: Re: what you LIKE about the update!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on April 29, 2011, 12:48:34 pm
i'll test my twohander in the afternoon along with my hybrid polearm/thrower.

for now i like the c-rpg.net interface. i dislike this rollback that stole my precious tempered greatsword  :?
Title: Re: what you LIKE about the update!
Post by: Gurnisson on April 29, 2011, 12:48:54 pm
Getting rid of crushtrhrough on the faster two-handers. Now it's like it should be when it comes to crushthrough. Slow, short, but hardhitting.
Title: Re: what you LIKE about the update!
Post by: Kafein on April 29, 2011, 12:52:25 pm
New armors (not really any I will use but that's another topic), some of the new balance changes, but certainly not all of them. New gamemodes (haven't tried them yet).
Title: Re: what you LIKE about the update!
Post by: Punisher on April 29, 2011, 12:53:49 pm
From the new changes I like the slot system the most. There were many good balance changes, like nerfing barmace/long iron mace,2H stab, sidesword, hafted polearms but there are some mistakes as well, like transfering the lolstab from 2H to polearms instead of removing it from the game.


Title: Re: what you LIKE about the update!
Post by: PhantomZero on April 29, 2011, 01:25:33 pm
I liked the theory behind Pikes be unable to switch hands, but it doesn't work in practice. People found a way to switch weapons and put it away.
Title: Re: what you LIKE about the update!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on April 29, 2011, 01:29:20 pm
i just notice how the masterwork flamberge was nerfd. from 54cut to 49cut... while the speed is the same... 88. another reason to retire and go polearm.
Title: .
Post by: OttomanSniper on April 29, 2011, 01:29:40 pm
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Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Adhonis on April 29, 2011, 03:09:27 pm
So they fucked up hybrids, we, men among all players, to turn cprg in a archery fest.

Without hybrid you are destroying a lot of this game, now options are highly reduced, and options are always a good thing. Balance is not about destroying spec, its about fixing them.

We 2h players are now fucked up against archers against not nerfed polearmers with agi spec. YOu are destroying the game.

You will say i will cry or something, i just choosed a spec that I like ,21 str 15 agi , 2h and thrower and now I'll just have to be a sad 2h with a shield to avoid archers. The sword i was using was Dadao, totally underpowered but I liked it, now I need much more STr to use it, wtf are you doing? So you just want polearm guys and archers in this game or what?


NOTE: And the good thing is that my retirement will be completly useless, cuz I cant heirloom my Dadao because it needs 12 PS ( 12 difficulty = 12 PS right?) when it is one of the worst top 2h weapons
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: bosco on April 29, 2011, 03:18:49 pm
12 Diff. means 12 STR, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Adhonis on April 29, 2011, 03:19:33 pm
12 Diff. means 12 STR.


Well, I have 21 str and I cant use it, I cant heirloom it on the web page and I cant weild it on the crpg mod game.

So this patch may be bugged. Or I did something wrong.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Cicero on April 29, 2011, 03:21:21 pm
Its over for now.Thanks for demolishing the game , balance and other stuff cya
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 29, 2011, 03:25:02 pm
oh je, this is so stupid. is it like this with every game out there or is M&B special? all the raging and bitching after each single patch be it warband beta or crpg, i dont get it :rolleyes:
Title: The new patch
Post by: Torp on April 29, 2011, 03:31:59 pm
After playing this new patch for only 10 minutes, i already feel like quitting CRPG.
I really hope that changes will be made (very) soon, otherwise i fear a great decrease in the number of players playing this mod.

I just said "i feel like GTXting CRPG" in the in-game chat, and on a server with 20 players, 5 immediately answered "i agree" "i feel the same way" or something similar.

The first reason i can mention is the totally fucked up nerf of cav. Cav has been one of the classes with least complaints during the last patch, and i don't think that many people have found it OP. Now it is simply unplayable. It only has 1 usable attack, as the new stab animation frm horse is exactly the same as a couched lance, just worse.

Another thing is the new lack of progress.
With this new patch, you can play till you reach lvl 31 and then it's over. Retiring makes no sense anymore as heirlooms literally suck and the exp bonus has also been nerfed like shit. Lvling past 31 doesnt make much sense either anymore, as you will only lvl like once every month (in the beginning) without exp bonuses.

i have alot more i feel like complaining about, but i am too angry to write it all write now :p
anyways, sorry for just complaining, but i really don't like this patch
Title: Re: The new patch
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 29, 2011, 03:33:22 pm
yeah sure, it was really necessary to create another of these threads. hurray
Title: Re: what you LIKE about the update!
Post by: Tzar on April 29, 2011, 03:38:15 pm
1. New lance change is nice it was too easy to go on a rampage on a sarranid horse with heavy lance.

2. Less amount of xbow hybrids thank god good change.

3. hmn... nice new armors i geuss havent seen em all tho.

4. the slot item idea i waited so long for that change thx.

Will see how it works out but i fear that we will end up with nothing but polearm users and longbow users but we shall see.
Title: Re: The new patch
Post by: Torp on April 29, 2011, 03:38:46 pm
yeah sure, it was really necessary to create another of these threads. hurray

Mods are free to move it to spam section if they think it doesnt belong here.

I just feel that the developers need to know how the community feels, and 100 trheads says hat the community hates the patch alot, 1 says that a rally small part of the CRPG community dislikes it
Title: Re: The new patch
Post by: Tzar on April 29, 2011, 03:39:49 pm
I fear we will lose many playes but from past experiance they all come back sooner or l8r simply because there arent any alternative lol  :lol:
Title: Re: what you LIKE about the update!
Post by: Torp on April 29, 2011, 03:40:35 pm
website is nice, so are the new gamemodes :)

also like the new items
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Adhonis on April 29, 2011, 03:40:37 pm
12 Diff. means 12 STR, doesn't it?

Well, I have 21 str and I cant use it, I cant heirloom it on the web page and I cant weild it on the crpg mod game.

So this patch may be bugged. Or I did something wrong.

Ok what really happends is that I lost my twice Heirloomed dadao, and it is removed so none can use it now. Strange bug.
Title: Re: The new patch
Post by: gazda on April 29, 2011, 03:43:21 pm
i dont worry much about it, i'm gonna wait for a hotfix(s) and everything will be normal.

current scenario has happened in every crpg update so far, and after hotfixes and some time all loved it

until then i'll have fun with some other things
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Post by: OttomanSniper on April 29, 2011, 03:59:33 pm
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Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Gondemar on April 29, 2011, 03:59:55 pm
Quite a good patch I'd say.
Slot system is awesome. I'm bringing new players, so making retirement and heirlooms a little less interesting is quite a good idea.

I actually hope yo see the new strange armors soon ! the new armors or skins are awesome by the way.
My two hander can still fight the way he used to.
My full strenght - polearm (pglb) character too.
My thrower has to make choices, and to fight close combat he has to bring less throwing weapons... Not really a problem, it's less a throwing fest but still make one or two kills/assists a round with 4 to 6 javelines or spears. Quite good.
My cav is dead, it's unplayable, and quite a pity.
Testing my archer right now. Seems more accurate, but can't bring as much arrows or close combat weapon.

Mostly positive about the patch, the cavalry nerf wasn't really necessary I'd say, regarding of the money it costs, new pikes... Seems like it's a little less a ranged fest, but they still are effective when making sacrifices in close combat, I'd say then we reach here a better balance.

But please, be indulgent with cav :/
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: crojosip on April 29, 2011, 04:08:28 pm
Only dislike the more expensive repairs.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Adhonis on April 29, 2011, 04:17:53 pm
Quite a good patch I'd say.
Slot system is awesome. I'm bringing new players, so making retirement and heirlooms a little less interesting is quite a good idea.

I actually hope yo see the new strange armors soon ! the new armors or skins are awesome by the way.
My two hander can still fight the way he used to.
My full strenght - polearm (pglb) character too.
My thrower has to make choices, and to fight close combat he has to bring less throwing weapons... Not really a problem, it's less a throwing fest but still make one or two kills/assists a round with 4 to 6 javelines or spears. Quite good.
My cav is dead, it's unplayable, and quite a pity.
Testing my archer right now. Seems more accurate, but can't bring as much arrows or close combat weapon.

Mostly positive about the patch, the cavalry nerf wasn't really necessary I'd say, regarding of the money it costs, new pikes... Seems like it's a little less a ranged fest, but they still are effective when making sacrifices in close combat, I'd say then we reach here a better balance.

But please, be indulgent with cav :/

Seriously you must be kidding

THrowers now can only have 6 jarids or spears or watever and have to PICK UP weapons from ground, thats idiot.

Retirement is useless, bonus are a joke.  This kills endgame action, its good to have high level players. It must not be easy, but now its impossible if you dont play 24/7
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Stylin_ATS on April 29, 2011, 04:58:21 pm
cavalry is dead....id say well ill retire n go 1h crossbow because i still have my masterwork xbow BUUUUUUT i had 76k starting today buuuut im at 48k n i wore only peasant cloths.... so cant play til that's fixed..... sadly i will be getting athletics next gen due to cavalry being dead, i hope lance thrust gets fixed.... because 2h just has to jump out of the path of the horse and you cant reach em.....then kill the rider with a side swing... am sad..... also throwing lances are still here, massive disappointment.... so what to do while i wait? pray it gets fixed? find a god to pray to? guess ill play league of legends and world of tanks....

Sorry, but I have to say this. If you want to NEVER be taken seriously and come off as elementary school kid, keep using ellipsis between EVERY FUCKING SENTENCE. So many kids do this these days, look at youtube comments if you don't believe me. It drives me nuts, what compels someone not use any punctuation and end every god damn sentence with an ellipsis. I seriously fear the day when this generation is running shit, god help us all.

On topic: The update just seems slightly broken. I am however happy about the addition of some slick looking armor, albeit something other than Russian stuff would have been nice. Also happy that I don't have to use bodkins as Khergit are a great option now (only being one less damage and a slightly larger stack). Like some other people mentioned, I seem to be losing money, sometimes in large amounts. I haven't noticed that repairs are any more than before, but something is happening that's making my money tank. And lastly, the new pole arm thrust despite possibly being faster (and better) looks so goofy I can't take pole arms seriously. I was considering making a warspear user but that thrust turned me off completely.

OH, and I completely forgot to mention that hitboxes, especially those for the head seem much smaller. I've noticed my arrows pretty much passing through enemies or not hitting in cases where it would have easily scored a hit before. Anyone else noticed this? Also is it just me, or do arrows seem to travel faster? I don't remember the shoot speeds of bows pre-patch to compare them.

And one other thing, I edited my character to have one of the new skin types (if you weren't aware, there's a bunch of new ones). After I edited the skin type to a new one, my char won't connect to the database or something, can't chose any gear, have no stats and am at level 1. As soon as I edited the skin back to an old one I could get all my stuff =/.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: pumak on April 29, 2011, 04:58:59 pm
I started playing crpg for 2 months now and seriously, the mod was sooooooo funny.  There were some things unbalanced? of course, but the mod was still funny. Now we have limitations for almost everything. Its funny to nerf aaaaaaall classes? I dont think so, but yay now its more balanced! congrats!

But seriously, this is a game, this is a mod and for balanced shit we already have Native. I apreciate the efforts to make this mod more balanced and accesible to most people, but this changes are very boring and a pain in the ass :(
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Penitent on April 29, 2011, 06:16:43 pm
Things seem mostly ok...

Polearm stab looks bad animation-wise.  It's a total arm-stab.  Not body or hips are put into the thrust.  It looks terrible.

Weight and item-slot information should be on the page.  We need to know how  many slots items take up before we buy them.

The new page looks niiiiice. :)

I'm losing all my gold for some reason...

We should have a character reset/rebuild option to account for all the changes, no?
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on April 29, 2011, 06:48:56 pm
things i like:

- crpg site interface
- tweaked 2handed thrust. now the damage is fine. way lesser than polearms.
- blockcrush fine tuned. now i can still blockcrush good against 2handers or pikemens using a mallet with 7PS. i havent tested it on shields tho.
- big weapons, more slots. forcing to use a 2h and backup shield or 2h sword and 2h maul/mallet/whatever.

things i don't like

- new polearm thrust. i have a hybrid thrower/polearm. the thrust animation should be a buff to polearm but not really good looking. also, the previous animation gave a shorter thrust but a more powerful one. i think its related to animation speed and tied then to speedbonus.
- with my thrower alt, i can carry only a set of jarids (nerfd to 3 ammo) and a polearm. so, raising throwing to 120 profiency and 8 PT, is quite useless when you have only 3 ammo. if i don't carry a polearm i can only use 6 ammo.
- english bill cannot be sheated. so if i want to use a english bill, i can only equip that and nothing else.
- hafted blade, glaive, GLA, poleaxe. they still have the stun. paired with a thrust buff, is well making me thinking to retire my 2hander in a polearm wielder.
- on my thrower polearm, i have 97 polearm profiency. i can spam an elegant poleaxe at the same speed of my 2handed main with a danish greatsword and 155 profiency.

things im not sure of:

- - 1h/shield boost. good for shielders but now in a world of archers with shieldbreaking throwers almost gone, shielders are better suited. gave em more speed. you will see only shielders be the match aces.

i'll not talk about cav as there are lots of cav players that know how they're doing.

i'm really thinking to retire to polearms. why? because:

- polearms have: stun, good thrust, wider weapon variety. pikes, lances, poleaxes, can-openers, maces, staves.
- poleaxes are shieldbreakers and not unbalanced like the 2h axes or morningstar
- the bec-de-corbin is by far superior to the morningstar. 4 swing directions against 3, not unbalanced (makes you able to feint it) and more reach even considering how the animation wield it. since the morningstar became an axe with pierce damage, is now quite useless.

i really don't know... the patch didn't gave me a good feel. i feel crpg going too far from how mount&blade is made.

need to test it deeper but... for now it just made me quit the testing to do something else.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Gristle on April 29, 2011, 06:59:04 pm
I haven't looked at everything. Mostly just my stuff.

RIP Rhodok Crossbowman. And I was going to start heirlooming my board shield next gen.
nerfed military cleaver. Damage I can see, but speed too?
My head is smaller. Can't make it look right. Looks weird in helmet now.
Everything is wrong in the world.
DOOM DOOM DOOM
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Tydeus on April 29, 2011, 07:00:46 pm
Look at the "like" votes skyrocket as time goes on. To be expected of course.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: Mala on April 29, 2011, 07:48:07 pm
Well, combat feels slower than before, a bit too slow for my agibuild.
And it took a while to find the option to toggle off the annoying voice sets.

At last the buckler, i can´t help me, but i think it got a bit smaller again.
I believe it had a size of 1x5 before the patch now it is "only" 2x2.
Title: Re: Like/Dislike new update?
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on April 29, 2011, 07:49:53 pm
Like

But I am not exactly the standard player.