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Title: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Ragni_Bross on December 25, 2012, 06:03:57 pm
Recently I was playing on EU 2 on one of my "light" alts when Varadin_HRE (Who was on my team mind you) hit me twice while we were trying to kill an opponent. I reported him because of two things.
1. He was too greedy and kept getting in the way which resulted in both of us being killed - IMO he made a terrible ally and because he got both of us killed I concluded that he was a liability to the team, and an expendable one at that.
2. He hit me. I think it is perfectly fair to report an ally of yours when they hit you, because unless they are planning to hit you or another ally an additional 4 times then they've got no problems. To me, reporting people is telling them to watch out but to a great many people it is an inexcusable insult. I find this very odd, so I'd like to hear what you all think. Why have this feature if you're not allowed to use it?

This is only half of the issue though, because as soon as I reported Varadin he struck me another two times (He'd have kept it going had I not died there) even though there were no enemies in sight. This is my main issue. He intentionally TKed an ally because said ally had reported him for being reckless and ruthless. I then went on to make a kick-poll but it didn't get through because of the many HRE members on at the time I suppose.

Is it really fair to TK an ally because he reported you for having hit him? Let me hear your honest thoughts and opinions.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Miwiw on December 25, 2012, 06:11:00 pm
Reporting for any teamhit is okay. That is why it was added. team-hitting again because being reported is bad, and forbidden.

Im reporting for;

a) stupid hits
b) intentional hits
c) whenever I'm pissed off.
All of these 3 options are allowed situations to report.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Butan on December 25, 2012, 06:13:36 pm
Report is for INTENTIONAL team attacks.
So when you report someone who is stupid but not TKing on purpose, sometimes they get mad.

It is a good tool to force people to be cautious but its not what its meant for, so there will always be some confusion about when/how/why reporting someone and the direct consequences.

But TKing a reporter is clearly wrong (even though I'm pretty sure your story lacks a proper background like most kick/ban/blame topic).
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Ragni_Bross on December 25, 2012, 06:17:51 pm
Report is for INTENTIONAL team attacks.
So when you report someone who is stupid but not TKing on purpose, sometimes they get mad.

It is a good tool to force people to be cautious but its not what its meant for, so there will always be some confusion about when/how/why reporting someone and the direct consequences.

But TKing a reporter is clearly wrong (even though I'm pretty sure your story lacks a proper background like most kick/ban/blame topic).

I'm not trying to get anyone kicked I'm merely curious :) Even if you think the background is somewhat lacking then just assume it's a hypothetical question and not one based on a real incident
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on December 25, 2012, 06:20:39 pm
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Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Haboe on December 25, 2012, 06:22:41 pm
A) This poll is useless, and i don't like you for making such a thing.
B) Intentional TK is NEVER allowed in crpg.
C) Reporting for team hits is ALWAYS allowed.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Rumblood on December 25, 2012, 06:24:59 pm
The M: Always press it  :twisted:
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Ragni_Bross on December 25, 2012, 06:25:49 pm
A) This poll is useless, and i don't like you for making such a thing.
B) Intentional TK is NEVER allowed in crpg.
C) Reporting for team hits is ALWAYS allowed.

Useless? About 60% of the people on EU 2 thought that TKing a reporter was ok, so I was baffled.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Sir_Mahtin on December 25, 2012, 06:26:39 pm
To much work for me to press m.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: _GTX_ on December 25, 2012, 06:28:21 pm
a) stupid hits
b) intentional hits
These 2, is when i press it.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: LordBerenger on December 25, 2012, 06:35:09 pm
Yes, eye for an eye.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Haboe on December 25, 2012, 06:36:58 pm
Useless? About 60% of the people on EU 2 thought that TKing a reporter was ok, so I was baffled.

This is not a matter of thinking or opinions, this is a rule.


You press PrtScn multiple times, then you press "i" and you tell the admins someone is intentionally tk'ing you, then you wait if the guys gets kicked/banned/warned and if that doesn't happen you either shut up or make a report on the forum with your screenshots.



If all that doesn't work you smear nutella on a bagel and eat in under a blanket, and you'll be ok again.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: karasu on December 25, 2012, 06:41:59 pm
There is simply no reason at all to hit a friendly target fully conscient of that act. And this counts for both parties.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Mlekce on December 25, 2012, 06:42:43 pm
When i don't need help and someone come to "help" me and then tw or tk me i always report.
I report when someone tw me 2 or more times in row,and when cav bump me while i fight vs enemy.
Also report when someone tw me and stop me from killing the enemy.

Other tw i don't report,if someone is douch and tw me i screen him or i fight back.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Tzar on December 25, 2012, 06:44:04 pm
I almost never report unless on siege where the system might work because people gets the chance to keep teamwounding all trough the round. Unlike on battle where the system just don't work no matter how many times to u report a player.. on battle its just pointless to report an tbh i only think people do it to let off some steam..
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Ragni_Bross on December 25, 2012, 06:44:50 pm
This is not a matter of thinking or opinions, this is a rule.


You press PrtScn multiple times, then you press "i" and you tell the admins someone is intentionally tk'ing you, then you wait if the guys gets kicked/banned/warned and if that doesn't happen you either shut up or make a report on the forum with your screenshots.



If all that doesn't work you smear nutella on a bagel and eat in under a blanket, and you'll be ok again.

I suppose I should have added that I'm not trying to get anyone banned or kicked. I'm fairly certain I've written this earlier on but I'll just repeat myself then: "I made this thread because I was curious." Don't bother wasting your time here if you don't want to read it. The poll isn't there to find out whether people are allowed to TK people as you seem to believe. It's there so that I, being curious, can find out whether or not PEOPLE think it is ok to do such a thing :)
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 25, 2012, 06:55:28 pm
I generally don't report team wounds, but it shouldn't make you rage that someone rage "M'ed" you.  Just move on.  You're not going to get 5 reports in a map, and if you do, rejoin and try not to hit so many teammates.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Macropus on December 25, 2012, 07:52:17 pm
A) This poll is useless, and i don't like you for making such a thing.
B) Intentional TK is NEVER allowed in crpg.
C) Reporting for team hits is ALWAYS allowed.
This.


What you are saying in OP is just like:
"I got TKed for reporting and people didn't accept my banpoll, I'm making a rage thread".
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Varadin on December 25, 2012, 08:17:16 pm
Indeed i did teamhit you and killed you , but also i apologised . seems you didnt take the sorry part of sentence. SORRY ONCE MORE>
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: zottlmarsch on December 25, 2012, 08:21:00 pm
M button is for whiny my old friends, I don't even press M if someone deliberately teamkills me.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Cyber on December 25, 2012, 08:29:18 pm
I don't think you should be allowed to be a reckless teamkilling machine as long as it is not intentional, that's why i report most of my teamhits and i don't mind if people report mine either, it just tells me to be more careful. It's not like it's going to affect you unless you do it 5 or more times per map in which case you need to be more careful and deserve a kick anyway.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Ragni_Bross on December 25, 2012, 08:34:48 pm
Indeed i did teamhit you and killed you , but also i apologised . seems you didnt take the sorry part of sentence. SORRY ONCE MORE>

You apologised after hitting me twice intentionally. It doesn't work that way y'know ;)
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: highglandeur on December 25, 2012, 08:37:23 pm
i thought there was a rule stating "always report cav", dunno were i read it probably in one of chadz pms
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Teeth on December 25, 2012, 10:08:40 pm
I think the description of the system as a report system for intentional teamwounding is pretty useless as the proper way to deal with that is screenshots and a ban thread. I therefore use it as an educating device for the killhungry or careless people. Teamhits can happen, but sometimes it is just clear that they just really want that kill bad.

Of course teamkilling someone because he reported you is retarded, but I have to admit I was completely willing to do that once this past week. I killed the horse of a fast approaching lancer that was about to lance one of my teammates. This teammate then jumpslashes right on top of the downed horseman and then reports me for being unable to stop my 82 speed unbalanced longspear from hitting him in the foot. That guy deserved a longspear through the skull, but I called him names in chat instead.

People that press M whenever they get teamhit are just whiny bitches who think they are important, like every 2h hero out there, very little respect for people that do that. Everybody teamhits, everybody gets teamhit, get over it.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Daniisme on December 25, 2012, 10:16:28 pm
A: When someone is too greedy for a kill and he get's me killed I will report him.
B: When an archer shoots into melee I will report him unless it's someone specifc.
C:Horse bumps.

I find it funny how people being mad for being reported for THIER OWN MISTAKE.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Smoothrich on December 25, 2012, 10:28:27 pm
I have an M macro set up that just spams M whenever I play, its out of my control, sorry.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Dooz on December 25, 2012, 10:39:17 pm
At beginning I used to press them every time, but now I never use it.

Same.  :lol: For the most part.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on December 25, 2012, 10:51:50 pm
Even if it was a really really poor swing and I'm all "COME ON MAN USE THAT ONE BRAINCELL YOU HAVE" I still don't report teamates who accidentally hit me in the middle of a fight. Unless they do it more than once in 5 seconds.

If it is blatantly intentional I will spam M until they stop. And screenshot them swearing at me and TKing me in later rounds. Dig that hole deeper, buddy. Keep going.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Nehvar on December 25, 2012, 11:00:14 pm
Stupid/ranged TW's and intentional TW's get the 'M'.  I let TW's that can be blamed on wonky hitboxes or game mechanics slide.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Tot. on December 25, 2012, 11:20:47 pm
I guess it's possible to make a AHK script spamming M couple of times per second so you don't have to break the fight to report and it would catch all hits separately. In fact M should have an option to turn it to automatic report-all. That whole system is really gentle with allowing 4 reported teamhits per map, meaning you need to be either intentional teamkiller or a rampaging retard for it to affect you at all.

This is only half of the issue though, because as soon as I reported Varadin he struck me another two times (He'd have kept it going had I not died there) even though there were no enemies in sight.

Here's (http://forum.meleegaming.com/eu-%28official%29/) the section to deal with people like that.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Kafein on December 25, 2012, 11:31:22 pm
Recently I was playing on EU 2 on one of my "light" alts when Varadin_HRE (Who was on my team mind you) hit me twice while we were trying to kill an opponent. I reported him because of two things.
1. He was too greedy and kept getting in the way which resulted in both of us being killed - IMO he made a terrible ally and because he got both of us killed I concluded that he was a liability to the team, and an expendable one at that.
2. He hit me. I think it is perfectly fair to report an ally of yours when they hit you, because unless they are planning to hit you or another ally an additional 4 times then they've got no problems. To me, reporting people is telling them to watch out but to a great many people it is an inexcusable insult. I find this very odd, so I'd like to hear what you all think. Why have this feature if you're not allowed to use it?

This is only half of the issue though, because as soon as I reported Varadin he struck me another two times (He'd have kept it going had I not died there) even though there were no enemies in sight. This is my main issue. He intentionally TKed an ally because said ally had reported him for being reckless and ruthless. I then went on to make a kick-poll but it didn't get through because of the many HRE members on at the time I suppose.

Is it really fair to TK an ally because he reported you for having hit him? Let me hear your honest thoughts and opinions.

Somehow I feel there are things you carefully avoided to say

Scratch that, this is the "tell in which situations you report people" thread
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Dionysus on December 28, 2012, 07:19:55 pm
I try to avoid reporting people unless they are intentionally trying to kill me, which is rare because I don't tend to piss off that many people on my team. Although, I have reported team-wounders whose wound broke my block and led to my death, but even that isn't fair of me.

As for teamkilling, I think that it is always incredibly unessecary.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: wayyyyyne on December 28, 2012, 08:02:25 pm
reportin archers shooting into melee all day 'err day
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on December 28, 2012, 08:23:38 pm
As an admin I can say that the report function causes more work that it is worth. Its too abusable for trolls, and the community has incorrect views on its use. If some absoloute noob teamhits you, its tempting to report, but the report is for INTENTIONAL TKS. It is not a OMG THAT GUYS IS NOOB report. It gets misused, people get offended, and I have to ban 2 people for teamkilling and cursing; both of whom proclaim themselves entirely innocent according to 'their views' on how the report button should be utilised.

People will always use it to vent rage, so it should therefore be removed, as it causes more problems than it solves.

Also, on the subject of Varadin:

Here's (http://forum.meleegaming.com/eu-%28official%29/) the section to deal with people like that.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Leshma on December 28, 2012, 08:41:54 pm
but the report is for INTENTIONAL TKS. It is not a OMG THAT GUYS IS NOOB report.

That's your opinion. And it has nothing to do with being an admin. Admins should punish people who grief, mild trolling isn't problematic (unless it leads to serious insults and teamkilling). But if a player (Corsair for example) decides to report everyone who teamhits him, it is his right to do so. No one has right to be mad about it. I wish press M was automatic feature, many people would become careful players.

I don't report that much, even tho I wear light armor and have low HP.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: agweber on December 28, 2012, 09:00:19 pm
but the report is for INTENTIONAL TKS. It is not a OMG THAT GUYS IS NOOB report.
That's your opinion. And it has nothing to do with being an admin.

My interpretation is that it's there to warn others that they're being reckless. Ally teamhit you several times in a battle? Use the M key to warn them so that they know to settle down. Blatant teamhitting/killing? Tell an admin, have them kicked.


While on the topic, what about when a match gets to that state where there's 1 person hiding and 24 people still alive. I know some admins *cough*granpappy*cough* get seriously pissed off when they see people having little team-duels. Why isn't this okay? Yeah, I know, duel server. But seriously, sometimes I see the person running off on a mountainside and there's a horde of people already chasing him. Even if he miraculously kills everyone, I'm not going to the outer edges of the map to find him, I'll sit my happy ass down and wait for flags. That's why flags exist.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Leshma on December 28, 2012, 09:12:55 pm
^Exactly.

But I think I understand what is Muffin's problem with it. Few days ago, some dude was punching me (having some fun I guess), and I didn't report him. However I think he punched some new player too who reported every time... and Ujin thought some teamkilling was going on based on those reports.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on December 28, 2012, 09:20:49 pm
The message that comes up it ' player X has teamhit you, press M to report if you think it was intentional'. Its not the exact quote, but thats what it says essentially. Show me the part where it says, press M if this player is being reckless'. There shouldnt be interpretation of the meaning of this sentence, it states very clearly under what circumstances you are supposed to report.

Anyway, I digress, people will do what they want until it is removed.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Leshma on December 28, 2012, 09:26:26 pm
If they remove it, there will be just more complains in the spirit of admins doing nothing :P

It does admin's job most of the time, don't understand why you want it removed.

Edit: Also, have you ever been kicked because of it?
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Zanze on December 28, 2012, 09:35:04 pm
Intentional? I think if you choose to spam your weapon with no regard for teammates, it is report worthy whether or not it was an "accident."

Now, being a spearman, my FAVORITE are the people who see me fighting someone and get in my way. Now, I am not saying that I have full control over each and every fight. But as I spearman I need a gap between me and the enemy. A gap that mindless teammates LOVE filling up, and thus getting teamhit and raging.

IMO, if it TRULY was an accident, you should have nothing to worry about. You need to go full retard 4 more times to actually get kicked. That is VERY hard to do. I teamhit all day as a spearman because it's hard to read the dancing teammates everywhere and I have never been kicked for TK's. Maybe once or twice in defend the virgin when people intentionally would jump in front...

Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on December 28, 2012, 09:53:04 pm
I want it removed because in practise it actually creates more conflict than it solves. It is rare for someone to actually be kicked by it, and it causes alot of friction between people, as well as being exploitable by trolls.

No I have never been kicked by it because for me it goes 5/5, 6/5, 7/5 etc, I tested it when the feature came out.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: agweber on December 28, 2012, 10:20:43 pm
I want it removed because in practise it actually creates more conflict than it solves. It is rare for someone to actually be kicked by it, and it causes alot of friction between people, as well as being exploitable by trolls.

No I have never been kicked by it because for me it goes 5/5, 6/5, 7/5 etc, I tested it when the feature came out.

Intentional teamwounding, ban him.

Jokes aside, if it's not fixing the problems, then it the system doesn't work.

I don't want it removed, I want more proactive admins to kick those who are intentionally teamwounding, and the use of M to be more widespeadly known as what I think of it; a warning to others to be more cautious.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Taser on December 28, 2012, 11:59:45 pm
I have yet to use my "m" button.

I haven't had any issues with tkers or twers (intentional anyway). If you do then press m and go with it while taking screenshots. If someone's twing you, they're prob twing other people as well so they'll press m and maybe take screenshots too.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Teeth on December 29, 2012, 12:29:28 am
As an admin I can say that the report function causes more work that it is worth. Its too abusable for trolls, and the community has incorrect views on its use. If some absoloute noob teamhits you, its tempting to report, but the report is for INTENTIONAL TKS. It is not a OMG THAT GUYS IS NOOB report.
Which is stupid, cause as far as I know this is how intentional tk's should be dealt with

Here's (http://forum.meleegaming.com/eu-%28official%29/) the section to deal with people like that.

It's not like pressing M is going to stop an intentional TK'er, seeing as he can hit you 4 times and not get kicked, provided that you actually manage to press M for each and every hit. Even then a kick is not going to worry him much. Bottomline, if that is the true purpose of the M system, it is fucking useless. That is why people ascribe an actually useful role to it, educating reckless retards. Which is effective, as getting M'ed probably leads a lot of people to be more careful with their swings. I feel like the devs are satisfied with the way it is being used, cause they must be fully aware that it would not harm any actual intentional tk'ers. My bet is they just knew that putting 'Press M if your teammate was not careful enough' would be too confusing.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: matt2507 on December 29, 2012, 12:35:17 am
who TK an ally who reports you should be banned.

BTW, it would be cool to have a second option to report the number of th inflicted on the same player and it was limited to 2 more th after the first reported.

However, it's would be also nice if people read the chat before reporting someone which just write sorry in the chat..
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Gravoth_iii on December 29, 2012, 12:40:21 am
Why do people get mad when they are reported? Its stupid, you made a bad move, blame yourself not the victim of your failures.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on December 29, 2012, 12:52:06 am
I only report in the following 2 situations; if someone is being completely reckless and kill-greedy and smacking me repeatedly when it could be easily avoided if he would stop flailing his glaive around with no remorse for his surroundings, OR if goddamn kill hungry cav teamkills me or bumps me and causes my death when I and others clearly had the fight under control. Basically if you TW me because you're kill-hungry, you get the M.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Casimir on December 29, 2012, 12:59:59 am
worst thing is when your typing in an apology for an unintentional team wound only to see you've been m'd by the fool who walked into your swing / ran under your horse.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Jarlek on December 29, 2012, 01:52:52 am
The message that comes up it ' player X has teamhit you, press M to report if you think it was intentional'. Its not the exact quote, but thats what it says essentially.
Wrong. That's not what it says. That was what it used to say, but chadz changed it almost immediatly to show that it was not just for intentional teamhits, but for all teamhits.

Here is what it says now: "wounded by *insert name*, hit [M] to report [15 seconds]"
(click to show/hide)


IIRC when the report system was introduced and it had the text you referred to, many people where complaining about being reported for accidental teamhits. It was a discussion whine topic about how someone got kicked when they only did accidental teamhits and how the reporter should be banned for griefing. It was either chadz or Cmpx who responded and basically said "you can report for any teamhits. If you teamhit someone, they are in the full right to report you. Watch your swings". The part about "if you think it was intentional" was only there for a very short time and never meant to be the only time when you are allowed to report someone.


Also: Not to be a dick or anything, but if you did a bit more in the Ban/unban section, you might have noticed what the text actually says, considering the teamwound message is what you would be looking for in 9/10 cases.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Diomedes on December 29, 2012, 02:19:42 am
I press M for when folks hit me in a foolish way.  The most common is ranged players shooting into melee.  Very rarely do I die or lose a lot of health from these hits but it's important to say "hey you!  Your bad decision cost me some health and I don't like that.  1/5"

I see it as a disincentive towards some sorts of reckless play.  If people become upset and don't get the message then, at the very least, they'll be less likely to act foolishly around me.

Don't be afraid to press M.  If you feel somebody is really after you intentionally though, continue to press M AND take screenshots.  This will help the admins help you.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Tindel on December 29, 2012, 02:27:04 am
EU2 is filled with people who just LOVE to run straight in between you and your current enemy, blocking your swings with their body, and then instantly reporting you.
Usually you have no chance to cancel your swing because they appear so suddenly from the side/behind that you teamhit before you know it.

This doesnt happen as much on battle because of the maps,  siege is usually more crowd fighting. And the respawn allows for more fighting.

The key is to communicate and explain to the new players, since experience players know when to use M, but new players usually doesnt know what the unwritten social rules are.
In general i think the report system is an improvement, because it makes people take a bit more care how they fight.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Butan on December 29, 2012, 01:36:27 pm
The part about "if you think it was intentional" was only there for a very short time.


I admit I stopped really reading the log message about a week after it was implemented, but you sure it was there for a "short time" ? Really felt like it was in for a very long time, but then, its good that it has been changed because the report system is better if it encompasses both intentional and accidental teamhits.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Shaksie on December 29, 2012, 01:50:26 pm
Buff M spam speed and nerf possible teamhit reports to 3 for kick. 5 is too many, 4 hits very often already does far too much damage.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 29, 2012, 01:55:50 pm
pressing M is indeed being abused, i hate autoreporters and i only press M when people hit me and dont say sorry or when they hit intentionally. I always give them a fair chance to say sorry and when i see they are not able to do that anyway, i will never press M. i hate people that just press M from the first hit.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: polkafranzi on December 29, 2012, 01:59:16 pm
I TK Micah and Shanks (on purpose) all the time and they never once pressed M  8-)

Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Kafein on December 29, 2012, 02:10:12 pm
I TK Micah and Shanks (on purpose) all the time and they never once pressed M  8-)

ban



Also, I ragereport too often. You know, when a teamhit directly gets you killed by the enemy.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Joseph Porta on December 29, 2012, 02:18:32 pm
I always rage press 'm' but making an actual ban request seems a little bit too much of a hassle for such a meaningless event. :lol:
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Fartface on December 29, 2012, 02:19:13 pm
I press M evrytime.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: Corsair831 on December 29, 2012, 02:26:08 pm
i rarely EVER team hit (like once every 3 or 4 maps), and that's because i'm not a kill hungry retard.

If you team hit me because you're

A - bad
B - going crazy to get a kill

then i'm going to report you. Learn your lesson and don't team hit.

IMO it should be an automatic reporting system, and 3 team hits should be an automatic 20 minute ban. That'd stop team hitting overnight.

---With this system there should be a way for the person who was teamhit to "Press M within 15 seconds to forgive the teamhitter". ---

If you are hit 3 times without being forgiven, 20 minute ban.
Title: Re: Your thoughts on reporting TKs and on people who TK reporters
Post by: pingpong on December 29, 2012, 02:35:02 pm
I have noticed one major flaw in the report system, if you get tked like intentionally ofc you get hit multiple times till you die, but you can still only report it as 1/5 of teamhits or 2/5 if superfast and lucky, IMO it should have some kind of detection for autokick if you get teamhitted multiple times like in a timespan of 5 secs by the same guy