Nerf speed and dmg longspear and pike. Tahts have so much speed and good pikerman can spam 2h... That so shit and suck. im pole and i can spam longsper.... -.- Change longspeed for max maul speed omg longsped have: weapon length: 245 and weight: 2.5!@@!!!!! -.-Great Maul speed: 80
Now look that : Flamberge weapon length: 152 and weight: 4.... very realistic bro.... -.- more buff spear. meaby spear 300 long and speed 100?? or throw spear...? Sro for english.
Tahts have so much speed and good pikerman can spam 2h...
longsped have: weapon length: 245 and weight: 2.5!@@!!!!! -.-
Now look that : Flamberge weapon length: 152 and weight: 4.... very realistic bro.... -.-
Thanks to pikers (and armies of tincans with 70 body armor) strat battles become more and more boring :rolleyes:
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Thanks to pikers (and armies of tincans with 70 body armor) strat battles become more and more boring :rolleyes:
Future of strat:(click to show/hide)
Thanks to pikers (and armies of tincans with 70 body armor) strat battles become more and more boring :rolleyes:
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BITCH! :P
i made a post about this, pikers are only good when they have other inf support. but they cannot make 'formations' themselves. the enemy just has to downblock and with that one click he can block over 9999 pikes at the same time (skillfull fighter is that :/)
the only thing pikeformations can do is backpeddle
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can never win (1v1) against anyone whose any goodthen you do sth wrong.
Also, point blank pike and longspear are useless. If you can hold down block until you get in the guys face you force him to block only.Pike maybe, although 3rd_Pikeman seems to be able to atleast put up a good fight in a 1 vs 1. Longspear is pretty do able in a 1 vs 1. Stabbing at 0 range is possible, but tricky. Being able to stab at 0 range means you can also kickstab, which is very effective to facehuggers.
How about that pique and longspear which has length of 300, and it can block the ...? This is not real. Change the order to pique impossible to block.visitors can't see pics , please register or login
The true problem is lightspeed side stepping. This, and not backpedalling per se, allows people to jump 5 meters away from you when they finally are within your range, the number one reason pikemen are not that easy and certainly not quick to kill at all. Reduce sidestepping to the same speed as backpedalling, problem nearly fixed, overheads reliable again, long weapons and dancers whining
gameplay about the actual mechanics and not about who breaks them the most, game 300% more awesome.What does this even mean, the way it's coming across is you not being able to beat people who are good, so you want the game to degenerate into even more of a block attack boring slog than it already is in duels.
Making side stepping slower nerfs short fast weapons the most visitors can't see pics , please register or login
The gameplay would turn into 36str, glaive full plate s key (more so than it already is now)
What does this even mean, the way it's coming across is you not being able to beat people who are good, so you want the game to degenerate into even more of a block attack boring slog than it already is in duels.
Nerf downblock! I can't spam with my longspear! That's shit and suck!mida cooo chona
its no big deal really. half the hardcore pike and spear users are garbage with other weapons. if they cant vulture kills their nonexistent
like I said to another ignorant person on the server today...No they are not weak. Largg,chase,dieler they always take me half of health with their jump,spin poking.
Pike advantage: Lenght
Pike disadvantage: Low damage, slow as fuck, take 3 slot, cannot Sheath, one attack direction, make you move slower.
Yeah it's OP clearly... 8-)
No they are not weak. Largg,chase,dieler they always take me half of health with their jump,spin poking.
They are fine,only thing that piss me off is that they can jump poke and block like they are holding a staff and not the 300 lenght weapon.
I can live with them.
Only class i hate are lancers. That is low skill,shittiest class in the whole game.
So OP when you fight them on horse.
No they are not weak. Largg,chase,dieler they always take me half of health with their jump,spin poking.
They are fine,only thing that piss me off is that they can jump poke and block like they are holding a staff and not the 300 lenght weapon.
I can live with them.
Only class i hate are lancers. That is low skill,shittiest class in the whole game.
So OP when you fight them on horse.
Nerf speed and dmg longspear and pike. Tahts have so much speed and good pikerman can spam 2h... That so shit and suck. im pole and i can spam longsper.... -.- Change longspeed for max maul speed omg longsped have: weapon length: 245 and weight: 2.5!@@!!!!! -.-
Now look that : Flamberge weapon length: 152 and weight: 4.... very realistic bro.... -.- more buff spear. meaby spear 300 long and speed 100?? or throw spear...? Sro for english.
From strat battles perspective everything what you said is not true (low dmg? Are u kidding me?). Or at least it's not disadvantage of pikes. There are almost no duels, mostly fight in clusterfuck and under these circumstances pikes are not only OP but also - if other team has dozen or more pikers - it's gamebreaking for every other melee class. At least in my opinion.
24p isn't low? :rolleyes:MW Pike 27 pierce dmg, MW Long spear 29 pierce dmg. On the other hand German GS has the best thrust among 2h swords, 29 pierce dmg when +3. Every other 2h sword have lower stab dmg. Are you trying to say that German GS has weak stab? :rolleyes: And I thought that pikes are supposed to be supportive weapons.
MW Pike 27 pierce dmg, MW Long spear 29 pierce dmg. On the other hand German GS has the best thrust among 2h swords, 29 pierce dmg when +3. Every other 2h sword have lower stab dmg. Are you trying to say that German GS has weak stab? :rolleyes: And I thought that pikes are supposed to be supportive weapons.
Also, I didn't say I want to nerf pikes, I just think that strat battles with so many pikers become boring. Not to mention it shouldn't be possible to stab a guy standing right behind you with 3 m pike.
Are you trying to compare a two handed sword with a long spear / pike? Then saying that the poles should be balanced around 2hsword stabbing stats? lol.Did you read that in my post? Where exactly? :? As I said 29 pierce dmg isn't low, no matter if we're talking about polearms, 2h or 1h. Noone in his right mind say German GS has weak thrust dmg and when polespear has exactly the same dmg (or slightly worse in the case of pike) it's low? Yeah, makes sense :rolleyes:
Did you read that in my post? Where exactly? :? As I said 29 pierce dmg isn't low, no matter if we're talking about polearms, 2h or 1h. Noone in his right mind say German GS has weak thrust dmg and when polespear has exactly the same dmg (or slightly worse in the case of pike) it's low? Yeah, makes sense :rolleyes:
Only class i hate are lancers. That is low skill,shittiest class in the whole game.
So OP when you fight them on horse.
yo redneck! again you and your complaining about lancers.......A bit like Tzar but Tzar is rather focused on ranged
i cant remember u killed me one time in game when i was on foot..... even your turtle shield cant help u.....
jadnice jadni, izbrisi igru i odi se pred zgradu pikulat bolje nego da places ovdije ko placipicka svaki puta....seljo!
Did you read that in my post? Where exactly? :? As I said 29 pierce dmg isn't low, no matter if we're talking about polearms, 2h or 1h. Noone in his right mind say German GS has weak thrust dmg and when polespear has exactly the same dmg (or slightly worse in the case of pike) it's low? Yeah, makes sense :rolleyes:
To be honest I am very surprised at the strong conviction of most people here that longspears do not deserve a nerf. Not that I mind.
Many things deserve nerf but I don't think that would help the gameplay. Except maybe HP and armor nerf but that would piss off many players.
Ever tried fighting on foot with heavy lance?
it's all about the animation abuse that pisses people off nothing more.You can't nerf animations.
Piking the sky than hitting the face. can't even block it sometimes. same goes for lolstab, it's still OP (i play 2h)
abusing animations=unfair advantade--->nerf. sounds fair to me tbh.
You can't nerf animations.
You don't recall the old archer animation then.
Or the 2h stab.
It didn't change much.Long time since you played Native? Hear this quite often here, that the stab hasn't really been nerfed, seems people don't remember the original lolstab from the early cRPG. Stabs can still be problematic but they are nothing compared to what they were. Which is probably also why some of the early 'good players' who relied on the lolstab now play Nditions or polearm, just as some of those who relied on the polestun now play support or shielder.
Long time since you played Native? Hear this quite often here, that the stab hasn't really been nerfed, seems people don't remember the original lolstab from the early cRPG. Stabs can still be problematic but they are nothing compared to what they were. Which is probably also why some of the early 'good players' who relied on the lolstab now play Nditions or polearm, just as some of those who relied on the polestun now play support or shielder.
Just nerf Teeth.And Knitlery. And Gurnisson. Also Muffin. And maybe a few others. If you do that, pikes will be fine :wink:
That so shit and suck.
You can't nerf animations.2h stab?
Everyone wants to longspear and pike can't not block any attack. They could push. And pls nerf this speed.
My english not good. so fuck off -.-
No, he can't. That's why chadz uses fast weapons, he can't block.
Long time since you played Native? Hear this quite often here, that the stab hasn't really been nerfed, seems people don't remember the original lolstab from the early cRPG. Stabs can still be problematic but they are nothing compared to what they were. Which is probably also why some of the early 'good players' who relied on the lolstab now play Nditions or polearm, just as some of those who relied on the polestun now play support or shielder.I play native quote often, the c-rpg 2h stab is currently a lot stronger than the native one, even with natives insane wiggling.
I play native quote often, the c-rpg 2h stab is currently a lot stronger than the native one, even with natives insane wiggling.
This game is shit. 0 realistic. admin have all in ass -.-
I have a morbid curiosity about the 'all' of what that is in the admins' asses. Inquiring minds want to know!
OP seen today in EU1 walzing around with long spear, this thread just shot itself in the face.
...[longspears and pikes] are truly strong if not near unbreakable in numbers with proper support. [But] I personally find that these weapons should be dropped when close quarter fighting is imminent, as they were historically.
BITCH! :Pright like you've never been surrounded by 2-3 pikers poking you to death
i made a post about this, pikers are only good when they have other inf support. but they cannot make 'formations' themselves. the enemy just has to downblock and with that one click he can block over 9999 pikes at the same time (skillfull fighter is that :/)
the only thing pikeformations can do is backpeddle
Someone tell me how come he brought a blow? This is not real. where is the reality? .. Ehhh ...
How to kill longspear who has 245 lenght someone in advance?
Do you have a player attacks ss which is 245 longspear someone at this distance, magic attacks.
Adin why you don't locked block longspear and create realistic atack with longspear... ohhh You have so much $$$ and doing so little to us that the game was realistic.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/mb10k.png/
Sry for english.
Someone tell me how come he brought a blow? This is not real. where is the reality? .. Ehhh ...
How to kill longspear who has 245 lenght someone in advance?
Do you have a player attacks ss which is 245 longspear someone at this distance, magic attacks.
Adin why you don't locked block longspear and create realistic atack with longspear... ohhh You have so much $$$ and doing so little to us that the game was realistic.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/mb10k.png/
Sry for english.