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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Aztek on December 09, 2012, 09:29:00 pm

Title: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Aztek on December 09, 2012, 09:29:00 pm
As many of you know, The FCC empire has invaded our lands in the steppe, and while we do our best to hold off these attacks, we are standing with only a few allies, In the past our faction has endured the stigma of being bullies and warmongers, and with that a lot of animosity has sunk into the souls of many. I simply ask that you look at our recent encounters and bare witness to our new stance and policies. We will always invite war when needed, but we hope the mentality will change and others will not automatically jump to the faction that is against us. We have made many mistakes in the past, We have let members go on rampages on the forums and we understand why there is still hatred for Hospitallers, even though mainly due to a small fraction of our roster. But we acknowledge our mistakes and have grown into (which I think) is a more respectable clan.

We were big in the last strat, and thus needed to be knocked down in the eyes of others, i just hope in time you give us a chance to see things have changed with us, and look forward to working with others in the future.

Thanks for your time, and look forward to seeing you all in the battlefield.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 09, 2012, 09:46:27 pm
Wish your last two attacks were not in the middle of a work day on Monday. We could have worked together to put them in prime time had you asked.

I like the new nice hosp.. but in truth you are still slightly larger then the FCC so I hope that we are not looked on as picking on you.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Aztek on December 09, 2012, 09:58:49 pm
You know I absolutely hated the fact that we had to attack when we did, I'm the asshat that called these attacks but that was only cause dbrookz was 15 minutes from entering Tulga which he could have sold his goods (had 400 crates) to buy more gear to fight us, I was holding off for a later fight but when he quick marched to try and get in I had to make that call, and then Murder grabbed our S&D and tried to dash away so that needed to be nipped in the butt... I'm at work all day tomorrow as I'm sure a lot of others are as well so I hate it, but what can you do right.

I would also like to acknowledge the fact that you guys have been very mature about all of this, and I'm a fan of your strategy and how you conduct your selves, This post was more for those who will sign up against Hospitaller no matter whom the other side is, simply for their saturated hatred for us. We have been battered enough and learned our lesson, and hopefully are better because of it. Just wish others would see that as well and give us a chance.

.. As for the being picked on, We are basically locked down in the Steppe, we can not move out with out being attacked and thus the reason we stay in the steppe, If we send an army to the east we have NH attack and then most likely tkov, If we move to the south we may get attacked by Bird, or HoC, heroparty, etc etc, and if we move up through the tundra we risk that whole alliance to come down on us, You can move in and out of the steppe with animosity as every faction allows it, where as we can not. We were battered from the last war and were now able to start to rebuild slowly and then got invaded again by the FCC.. Not to say were completely helpless but you have a large advantage for those reasons alone.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Arathian on December 09, 2012, 10:00:18 pm
Good luck, and may the best guy win.

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Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Arathian on December 09, 2012, 10:03:10 pm
You know I absolutely hated the fact that we had to attack when we did, I'm the asshat that called these attacks but that was only cause dbrookz was 15 minutes from entering Tulga which he could have sold his goods (had 400 crates) to buy more gear to fight us, I was holding off for a later fight but when he quick marched to try and get in I had to make that call, and then Murder grabbed our S&D and tried to dash away so that needed to be nipped in the butt... I'm at work all day tomorrow as I'm sure a lot of others are as well so I hate it, but what can you do right.

I would also like to acknowledge the fact that you guys have been very mature about all of this, and I'm a fan of your strategy and how you conduct your selves, This post was more for those who will sign up against Hospitaller no matter whom the other side is, simply for their saturated hatred for us. We have been battered enough and learned our lesson, and hopefully are better because of it. Just wish others would see that as well and give us a chance.

This is all nice and good, but hospitallers have a tendency to try to chew all the small clans they can get their hands all.

Why should we assume you won't repeat that if FCC is gone?
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Aztek on December 09, 2012, 10:21:59 pm
In my eyes we do not chew smaller clans up, We went after heroparty because of a diplomatic dispute if thats what your talking about. But we have always stated we would help the smaller clans if we had the means. And I do not want to see FCC gone, I would LOVE to see many factions helping each other to give more enjoyable battles and trading. What I don't like to see is factions getting bombarded with the odds completely not in their favor, Look at Kutt and a few others.

I see smaller clans jumping with the big fish to pick up the scraps, I just wish those "smaller fish" would divide better to make even odds and thus a greater experience.

On a side note,  sorry to heroparty for that attack on the desert. Was a small issue that got out of control. Glad that's all over with :)
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 09, 2012, 10:36:57 pm
next time give a yell. Even in open field we can try and work it to primetime by putting our nighttime settings to force things into prime if you are about to catch us, hope for you guys to do the same thing.. That way we can have some more fun.

Have you on steam now so we have some better communication.

Till chad gives us some better options for timing attacks we will have to try and work the system.

Ohay
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BadooN on December 09, 2012, 11:13:05 pm
If we send an army to the east we have NH attack and then most likely tkov,
You say that as  if it's impossible to request permission to pass.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: HardRice on December 09, 2012, 11:18:39 pm
You say that as  if it's impossible to request permission to pass.
But, what happens if they encounter the black knight?! (http://youtu.be/dhRUe-gz690?t=1m41s)

They will surely be destroyed.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Aztek on December 10, 2012, 12:24:25 am
You say that as  if it's impossible to request permission to pass.

I have tried to talk to digglez many times from NH and he wanted nothing to do with us. We were told we would be attacked if we went into their lands, We asked for permission to have trade runs go through there and again, were told we would be attacked if we entered, So that was it for our talks.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: GauisMarius on December 10, 2012, 02:05:36 am
Diggles is set in his ways.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on December 10, 2012, 06:32:52 am
Hey Hospitaller, sorry that Frisia's extremely modest supply of mercenaries is much more likely to sign up against you than for you. I'm not telling them to do that, and it's very noticeable how much you hospitallers seem to be fine folks now...it's just popular to have an "enemy", you know? Since KUTT is gone, you guys get to enjoy a double dose, it seems like. We have no quarrel with you; it's just that FCC are our neighbors. Same as how we'd sign up for teutonic over Chaos any day. I love me some Chaos, and some of their folks sign up for me, but they aren't neighbors.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: partyboy on December 10, 2012, 09:18:13 am
EAt shit, hospitallers have been the least fun people in crpg and strat since ATS died.  and you were a close second then.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Goretooth on December 10, 2012, 02:19:44 pm
Wish your last two attacks were not in the middle of a work day on Monday. We could have worked together to put them in prime time had you asked.

I like the new nice hosp.. but in truth you are still slightly larger then the FCC so I hope that we are not looked on as picking on you.
Truth is that are way more against hosp then the fcc. Which is always more fun. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Kirbyy on December 10, 2012, 02:31:34 pm
*Initiating suuper3 robot*
*Input orders: 'Attack All Hosp enemies'| *
*Drunken Mode activated*
*Please evacuate the vicinity*
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Xol! on December 10, 2012, 02:41:04 pm
*Snip*

Slightly off-topic, but I'm glad you've seemingly taken over diplomacy for Hospitallers.  Your levelheadedness and good attitude is already doing a lot to turn around the big-bad-hospitaller perception.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Mae. on December 10, 2012, 05:33:27 pm
signed up for hospi, looks like it should be fun. honestly wheres the excitement in a battle with 10 vs 30. i'm always willing to help fill rosters when they're seemingly uneven. i just like xp  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Keshian on December 10, 2012, 05:42:08 pm
signed up for hospi, looks like it should be fun. honestly wheres the excitement in a battle with 10 vs 30. i'm always willing to help fill rosters when they're seemingly uneven. i just like xp  :rolleyes:

No offense maeday, but when i saw you first on hospitaller side, they actually had more mercs signed up.  They also have more troops and they have more members than fcc (just look they have half again as many of their guys that can make the midday fight they initiated than we can in our own faction).  Would appreciate you signing up for the underdogs - we are in a war with a  faction with more troops and they are defending in their own territory to boot with the benefits of population.  Really should be mercing for us.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on December 10, 2012, 06:09:30 pm
Don't worry, Kesh. I'll just, win, for us.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Mae. on December 10, 2012, 06:18:47 pm
when i applied last night they were looking shabby on mercs, now it seems both sides are seemingly filled (yaaay). I'm signed up for FCC after this one.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: GiuseppeBlackRose on December 10, 2012, 06:42:55 pm
GForce Mafia can be hired for a price........ PM ME for further details :mad:
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 10, 2012, 06:46:22 pm
We always try to pay our mercs, depending on who the person attacking/defending is, it varies some. Generally if you are a merc you are prioritized lower than people who sign up for free (usually friends of the faction or in other friendly factions).  However, we usually need mercs, and pay according to performance or any pre-set agreements.  If you ask a reasonable amount and do "ok" in the battle (somewhere in the middle) you usually will get what you ask for.  If you do better, you will be rewarded with more money.

If I'm the leader of the battle, I will generally pay all people who sign up that are not in "friendly/allied" factions, regardless of merc status.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: GiuseppeBlackRose on December 10, 2012, 06:49:09 pm
We always try to pay our mercs, depending on who the person attacking/defending is, it varies some. Generally if you are a merc you are prioritized lower than people who sign up for free (usually friends of the faction or in other friendly factions).  However, we usually need mercs, and pay according to performance or any pre-set agreements.  If you ask a reasonable amount and do "ok" in the battle (somewhere in the middle) you usually will get what you ask for.  If you do better, you will be rewarded with more money.

If I'm the leader of the battle, I will generally pay all people who sign up that are not in "friendly/allied" factions, regardless of merc status.

Half now Half after.

My troops are legendary PM me
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 10, 2012, 07:19:24 pm
Half now Half after.

My troops are legendary PM me

We generally pay strategus gold, you're not going to be able to get paid half before unless someone is physically close to you in strategus.  OR you signed up for one of our previous battles and didn't get paid.

And no insult intended, but I haven't personally heard of your faction, but I've been only semi-active lately in the NA1 server.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: GiuseppeBlackRose on December 10, 2012, 07:32:31 pm
We generally pay strategus gold, you're not going to be able to get paid half before unless someone is physically close to you in strategus.  OR you signed up for one of our previous battles and didn't get paid.

And no insult intended, but I haven't personally heard of your faction, but I've been only semi-active lately in the NA1 server.

i want Crpg gold
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Kirbyy on December 10, 2012, 07:36:19 pm
That battle's time limit is bullshit, please extend the time! Ahhhhhhh

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=1751
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Gristle on December 10, 2012, 07:36:42 pm
Don't worry, Kesh. I'll just, win, for us.

And he did exactly that. This can only mean one thing.

Nerf cav.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on December 10, 2012, 07:47:32 pm
Good fight, lookin forward to the next battle :D
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 10, 2012, 07:50:56 pm
That battle's time limit is bullshit, please extend the time! Ahhhhhhh

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=1751

Hosp spent like 1-3 minutes waiting before attacking. Long enough for FCC to get a weapon rack, healing tent, and ladders(not really needed for that map) up.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 10, 2012, 08:31:26 pm
Defense has all the advantages. with the new time limits and the increasing spawn timers it is very difficult as an attacker. we learned this same thing against hero party skirmishes
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 10, 2012, 08:39:33 pm
I don't think the increasing spawn timers is the problem (well maybe somewhat because as attackers it's incumbent on you to kill x amount of people before the timer runs out) but I think the main problem is just the timer for the very large battles.

If a defender has over 2000 troops (that's our magic number) there's no way to attack them and win if you try to kill all their troops.  The only way to win would be to take the flags (which is very difficult as most people know on an open field battle). 

Kesh has a 2700 man army, but even if we throw 6000 troops at his army, we wouldn't be given enough time to kill 2700 troops.  The timer is just fucked right now so people over 2000 troops can walk around the map wherever they want because anyone who attacks them is a moron.  The only way to win these battles (IMO) is to send smaller armies at them and just keep attacking.  Being that their in our lands, we have the advantage that we can have another army waiting after the original battle happens.  But this is a pretty shitty way to have to win battles.

At least we know FCC won't attack any of our armies in our own lands anymore (since we can always reinforce over 2000 troops within 5 hours), so we have free passage to roam as we please.

And Strategus has yet again, another larger issue which prevents meaningful strategy from taking place.  YEAH!!!!  Not sure if this is as bad, or worse than beginning of strat 3 where nobody wanted to attack because they'd lose all their horses that people were still riding when the battle ended.

Strategus needs some TLC.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Gristle on December 10, 2012, 09:11:53 pm
Gotta watch those flags, yo.

which is very difficult as most people know on an open field battle

Funny timing with that.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 10, 2012, 09:16:04 pm
Yeah I just heard, I was referring to capturing defenders flags (since they're typically hanging back near the flags, or closer and with more people than the attackers), so not exactly relevant :P
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 10, 2012, 09:26:38 pm
I think the number is closer to 1300 good merc defending are hard to beat unless you get the flags. As attackers to run into the grinder which takes time. form up charge again... over and over. each time increasing your spawn timer... at 30 mins in it takes 30 secs per spawn or more. defense has longer between fights... they can start trying to catch your flags since your are reviving super slow. ugly cycle as attacker in larger fights. add to the fun about this time the server takes a dump and u slowdown . making it harder to get kills.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: partyboy on December 10, 2012, 09:26:46 pm
You didn't address the issue I brought up
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: SHinOCk on December 10, 2012, 11:03:53 pm
No offense maeday, but when i saw you first on hospitaller side, they actually had more mercs signed up.  They also have more troops and they have more members than fcc (just look they have half again as many of their guys that can make the midday fight they initiated than we can in our own faction).  Would appreciate you signing up for the underdogs - we are in a war with a  faction with more troops and they are defending in their own territory to boot with the benefits of population.  Really should be mercing for us.

Sorry but the "Hospitallers is bigger' excuse don't work here at all, you guys have a big ass territory, are more active, have better organization, better trade routes/trade partners, you destroyed KUTT in an easy 1 sided war getting tickets and probably goods/gear in the process making you even bigger. You're not the underdog here at all, they are... hell they struggle to fill their roster for the battles unless they go and mass recruit EU people and they have trouble filling even with them. Lets not kid ourselves there, everybody knows who are the 2 big power block on NA side of the map
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Keshian on December 10, 2012, 11:20:12 pm
everybody knows who are the 2 big power block on NA side of the map

Occitan with 14k+ troops and 1.5 million gold and Hospitallers with 11,600 troops in their fiefs alone and I can see 3 armies with another 4000 troops right near me, not including what their other guys have and that is after losing 3K troops today.  Im sorry but FCC does not have 20k troops like Hosp and we are attacking.  Our only real chance of winning is averaging a 2:1 k/d.

P.S. Arrowaine - just check their fiefs - 11,600 troops, i have aderyn with 1532, sjimmy 1546, and farrix 1024 troops near me.  They still have 50 other members with troops, is it that hard to believe the other 40 have a combined troop total of at least 4,500 troops??  king_itchy last i saw him had 700, so 3,800 more.  Why do you turn every statement of facts as some kind of conspiracy if it doesn't favor your self-image as the good guy?
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: SHinOCk on December 10, 2012, 11:40:25 pm
Occitan with 14k+ troops and 1.5 million gold and Hospitallers with 11,600 troops in their fiefs alone and I can see 3 armies with another 4000 troops right near me, not including what their other guys have and that is after losing 3K troops today.  Im sorry but FCC does not have 20k troops like Hosp and we are attacking.  Our only real chance of winning is averaging a 2:1 k/d.

I think we made it clear enough that we are not affiliated with hospitallers anymore on strat even though we like a bunch of them (What can we do, we've been on the same TS forever). Our contribution stops with the occasional trade routes and the mercing when we bother to show up. Our troops are not linked to theirs whatsoever and we never made any kind of Defensive pact or anything that looks like it. I can't be 100% certain but hosp lost a shit ton of tickets since strat 4 started and if they have that many left youre probably not far of that amount yourself

As for ourselves, if we could gather a good amount of troops/gold having no stable fiefs beside my 1 castle NA side and being forced to move all across the map since the beginning of this version of strat, i don't even wanna know how much troops most medium sized clans like us have gathered so far let alone one of the bigger more active clans on the map.

On a side note i must add that our relations could probably have been better (FCC/Occitan) but the sad truth is that you guys keep attacking ppl we respect and like so i can't ask the guys in the clan to sign up for your side. We've never been the kind of Clan that sign up in mass against clans we have good relations with and never will be. It just does not feel right... in my book anyway.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: arowaine on December 11, 2012, 12:00:50 am
lol hospitaller with 20k troop maybe with all population hahah this is funny stuff :) and well shame for them that they dont have any trade partner like you with velucain empire. Nh closing boarder to them all north is fcc vasal and under a paper against huge clan.


ps you may get afraid to see real number.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 11, 2012, 12:10:32 am
20 k might be pushing it but I count 12,000 just in standing armies in the fiefs (not population)  and kesh sees 4,000 troops outside the fiefs marhcing. 16,000 troops.... and that is what we can see. So I would imagine 20k is not super far off the mark
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Aztek on December 11, 2012, 12:17:16 am
I don't understand how FCC is the underdog!? I'm not trying to be insulting or anything but we were battered from the last war, We have been locked down in the steppe this whole time, our trade is slim and even then we cant do much as again we have been locked down in the steppe for 95% of this strat. As shin pointed out you have free reign of the map with trades and gold and could continuously send good gear and troops at us as you have nothing else to worry about.

We do have the advantage of having our castles/cities near by, but with no real income how much can we really do? Send our troops out with low tier gear to the slaughter house? FCC  has walked into our land and stold our S&D and gets to walk away with little resistance, and even if we do try and send out armies we need to deal with that timer as it has already been pointed out that the attackers have the large disadvantage. Now that is a great strategy for FCC, Bleed us dry and walk all over us, But saying you are the underdog is a little outlandish in my opinion.

I don't want to diminish FCC here, I'm honestly impressed in your tactics and you guys are doing a great job, The leaders/shot callers from FCC should be proud.

Basically If you want truly epic battles, allow us to actually build so we could do something other than turtle and allow any faction to walk all over us (The down side being we could possibly turn into asshats and walk over other clans if we were to get too big, which would have been the way others seen us before, which is not the case now) Or you continue to keep us down and we possibly lose this war at this rate of oppression (Downside and worst case scenario this turns into a Kutt like situation as members get over frustrated and leave.

I am talking worst and best case scenario there, and these are my opinions. But to say we have the upper hand or advantage is extremely over estimating us.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 11, 2012, 12:38:35 am
I hope I was not conveying we were the underdog. That might be some kesh dogma but I do not agree. I think we are roughly even at this point. Size wise on paper we are very similar. Its very hard to factor in who is actually playing for any faction and clearly no one has 100% member participation.. us included.

Things can swing our way with a few tactics... We can try and crack the turtle shell. We tried and eventually could have maybe worn you down... in doing so we would have worn ourselves to shadows as well. We do not really want your fiefs and could not properly take care or defend them if we did.

(how fun would it be to have the destroy fief option? You win the fight but do not want the fief pick destroy instead of capture... knocking it out of the game a week or two maybe for the whole round. That way give more reason to hit peoples land.. forcing the map over time to get smaller and smaller.. creating competition. Would be a ton of fun I think... sorry just a random thought)

Second tactic raid your SD.. create a dynamic where it is difficult to support the troops you do have. Which will soften things up for a push at a later date. Force you to come out of the turtle shell and attack us giving us greater advantage.

Second makes more sense with the way the game is coded at the moment.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Gristle on December 11, 2012, 12:58:09 am
I really have to ask: Why is it so important that you guys have Transitional Armor in all of your battles? I think I even saw some Transitional in the battle today where the attacker bled over 200 troops due to running out of gold.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Aztek on December 11, 2012, 01:08:14 am
I agree Bale, and your strategy is sound. Was more less responding to Kesh's assumption that the FCC is the underdogs as you may think we have this secret massive supply of gold, gear and troops.

Just want others to realize we could use some help :)

And I do understand why others are signing up with FCC for these battles, especially their neighbours and I would always commend them for it, I'm just talking about the mercs that are not necessarily involved with this war directly.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Aztek on December 11, 2012, 01:09:09 am
I really have to ask: Why is it so important that you guys have Transitional Armor in all of your battles? I think I even saw some Transitional in the battle today where the attacker bled over 200 troops due to running out of gold.

-4 crap left over from battles of LONG ago, Were trying to get rid of all the junk/broken items.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 11, 2012, 02:11:53 am
maybe we are thinking wrong but the box you are in is three sided. North I can see might be rough same with NH lands.. I would think Hero party and you guys have gotten a little closer due to mutual hatred of fcc.. but if not then that still leaves the fourth side to trade... EU. We imagined you guys using the gateway to the west for your trade runs.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on December 11, 2012, 04:57:50 am
I have a feeling Hosp has the troops/tickets advantage, and FCC has more gold. And, of course, the weird field battle shit with defenders and what not.

I mean, shit, I've got like 60k gold, and rising, and I barely even do this stupid Strat shit. (JK it's kinda fun).

Great fights tho, let's keep 'em going!
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Gristle on December 11, 2012, 08:32:38 am
I would think Hero party and you guys have gotten a little closer due to mutual hatred of fcc

Which is still funny to me, considering we helped Hero Party against Hospitallers during that dispute.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 11, 2012, 11:59:11 am
Yeah, I always root for the losing side, so when Hosps were beginning to be invaded by the entire map, I decided to leave with my army and mess with someone else. So I attacked UIF and died.  :lol:

I wouldn't be surprised if Hero_Party as a similar attitude at times.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: oprah_winfrey on December 11, 2012, 04:28:53 pm
Which is still funny to me, considering we helped Hero Party against Hospitallers during that dispute.

Yes, it is so ironic that Hero Party wouldn't be on great terms that sent thousands of troops to defend against us and attacks all of our players on the upper half of the map.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Blackzilla on December 11, 2012, 05:48:13 pm

Yes, why would we be nice to Hosp? They provide us with mercs and share common enemies ! While FCC has attacked us, them being a "vassal" for BIRD clan (whom we are at war with), and the fact that Kesh bitches and yells at us in our own TS. That's just some reasons  why we wouldn't want to help you gang up on hospitaller!
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Keshian on December 11, 2012, 06:49:37 pm
Yes, why would we be nice to Hosp? They provide us with mercs and share common enemies ! While FCC has attacked us, them being a "vassal" for BIRD clan (whom we are at war with), and the fact that Kesh bitches and yells at us in our own TS. That's just some reasons  why we wouldn't want to help you gang up on hospitaller!

Lulz they just invaded your territory while we just defended BIRD clan agaisnt your chocolate chip cookie aggression, so that BIRDs could once again roam freely skipping in a land of sun and rainbows.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 11, 2012, 07:08:59 pm
Pretty sure we were never at war with hp. just defensively protecting the bird lands. never went on offensive in your lands.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: oprah_winfrey on December 11, 2012, 07:14:14 pm
Pretty sure we were never at war with hp. just defensively protecting the bird lands. never went on offensive in your lands.

FCC attacked me, a peaceful trader outside of the desert.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 11, 2012, 07:16:52 pm
 :mrgreen:
FCC attacked me, a peaceful trader outside of the desert.

There are no peaceful traders in strategus...
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Blackzilla on December 11, 2012, 08:59:53 pm
Lulz they just invaded your territory while we just defended BIRD clan agaisnt your chocolate chip cookie aggression, so that BIRDs could once again roam freely skipping in a land of sun and rainbows.


Hosp did invade us kesh, I'm glad you can pay attention to the past, WHEN we had a quarrel/problem with hosp.But now we don't, we are more friendly now than we were in the past! See that kesh? It's someone not holding a grudge! And learning to help others!
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 11, 2012, 09:02:33 pm
Can we just agree to have equally sized armies with exactly the same gear and we'll meet in the middle of some plains?  Everyone who wants to merc will have to apply to both sides and the captains will pick the mercs one at a time like kickball?  After the game we will all say good game and get pizza.

I call blue team captain and my first pick is Huey.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Blackzilla on December 11, 2012, 09:08:03 pm
Can we just agree to have equally sized armies with exactly the same gear and we'll meet in the middle of some plains?  Everyone who wants to merc will have to apply to both sides and the captains will pick the mercs one at a time like kickball?  After the game we will all say good game and get pizza.

I call blue team captain and my first pick is Huey.
Ok but I'm a package deal and I come with everyone in Hero party! Also it's hosp's turn!
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 11, 2012, 09:10:19 pm
I got bzilla

Lulz they just invaded your territory while we just defended BIRD clan agaisnt your chocolate chip cookie aggression, so that BIRDs could once again roam freely skipping in a land of sun and rainbows.

And we didn't "just invade their territory" it was a dispute over a land claim that sparked the war and lack of coming to a diplomatic agreement that kept it going.

You should really get into politics, I don't think I've ever seen a Kesh post without some sort of propaganda in it.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Gristle on December 11, 2012, 10:20:51 pm

And learning to help others!

Could you perhaps go into greater depth as to why you say this? I'm not sure what you're referring to. FCC has helped lots of small clans. Again, we even helped Hero Party at one point, and I'm sure you helped us, too. We're just not helping you right now, and with good reason.

them being a "vassal" for BIRD clan

You can drop the quotations. We are vassals of BIRD CLAN and that's the honest truth. It's not like we randomly decided to fight against Hero Party and completely fuck over whatever good terms we had. No, we would have attacked Hospitallers much sooner instead. We are true to our oaths and must defend BIRD CLAN.


See that kesh? It's someone not holding a grudge!

You are aware of why Smoothrich wanted to start the war with LLJK, right? Yeah, that whole damn mess was started through someone holding a grudge. Well, I personally hold no grudges against Hero Party, and I'd like to be on good terms again once you guys stop hatin' on BIRD CLAN.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 11, 2012, 10:55:17 pm
Well said gristle.

Also for some reaosn they think we are at war with them. We defended the Bird clan borders and with a few attacks of opportunity sent a couple of their members for rides to Eu when they were in our zone of influence. We never went on the offensive. None of our armies marched into hero territory and attacked them. I have a feeling they take the FCC/HP "war" a little more serious then we did.


It was a peace keeping mission. Do not give us reason to believe you have weapons of mass destruction hidden in your sandy stongholds
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: partyboy on December 11, 2012, 10:56:22 pm
All of that never would have happened if they didn't take away ladders.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 11, 2012, 11:02:15 pm
I got bzilla

And we didn't "just invade their territory" it was a dispute over a land claim that sparked the war and lack of coming to a diplomatic agreement that kept it going.

You should really get into politics, I don't think I've ever seen a Kesh post without some sort of propaganda in it.

I find this to be a rather weak argument.  Are you saying that I can just make a map that says MURDERNATION in over your land in giant red letters and all of a sudden it is a legitimate claim?

Legitimate claims went away when the voting system came into place.  Any fiefs that have changed hands since beginning of strat 4 have been acts of war or fief transfers that were previously agreed upon.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 11, 2012, 11:22:50 pm
Right...Our stance: a guy that was our vassal was the lord of a castle, Hero Party attacked the castle of one of our vassals.  Hero parties stance was that it was a castle that belonged to a now-defunct faction (they didn't care who the lord was, he was no longer part of an organized faction) and they didn't know he was our vassal. 

It wasn't like TKoV's land claim for Chevalier lands, that's for sure (they just wanted to expand).  We had a legitimate causus belli for war (it wasn't necessarily smart or in our best interests to press the claim however), and our stance all along (which people are free to dispute) was that we were trying to retake the castle and were going to give it to another of our allies when the current lord (our vassal) joined our faction as a full member.

This is all old news and been beaten to death at least 50 times by Hero Party, the Hospitallers, and the 101st keyboardists of FCC.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Matey on December 11, 2012, 11:41:52 pm
personally, while i think it would be fun to have ol smoothy signing up for us he has so many times in the past; i don't really mind that HP is siding with hosp here, it does make for more interesting fights and it is nice to see people willing to change allies/enemies... even if it is all based on smooths grudge against phantom. but i do want to ask you HP guys this, if FCC really considered itself at war with you, dont you think some of the armies in hosp lands would have paid you a visit before we launched an invasion against a much better fortified enemy? I mean really, if we had ANY interest at all in harming hero party lands, dont you think we would have sent troops at your fiefs instead of pouring fuel onto our old war with hosp?
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 11, 2012, 11:45:37 pm
Trying to reason with Hero Party is like trying to figure out why the tide goes in and out. There are far more productive entertaining ways of using your energy in a war.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Matey on December 11, 2012, 11:51:25 pm
Trying to reason with Hero Party is like trying to figure out why the tide goes in and out. There are far more productive entertaining ways of using your energy in a war.

are you suggesting that their mood shifts based on a lunar cycle? like perhaps there is some period of time where they experience frequent changes in moods which lead to unpredictable behaviour?
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 11, 2012, 11:53:14 pm
are you suggesting that their mood shifts based on a lunar cycle? like perhaps there is some period of time where they experience frequent changes in moods which lead to unpredictable behaviour?


After cataloging the behavior of the Hero_Party leadership, I've come to the grim conclusion that they must all be werewolves, as their mood and predictability does follow the lunar cycle with alarming accuracy.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Lordark on December 12, 2012, 12:01:49 am
Volunteers to go Tkov vassal b4 being forced to be Fcc vassal.

(there are only 2 sides left in Na strat, Fcc side and tTov. The rest are just waiting to be assimililated.)

Keep Na strat alive! Crush Kesh! woot*
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: SHinOCk on December 12, 2012, 12:25:27 am
Huey Newton, I used to own him as Cav
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 12, 2012, 12:36:20 am
personally, while i think it would be fun to have ol smoothy signing up for us he has so many times in the past; i don't really mind that HP is siding with hosp here, it does make for more interesting fights and it is nice to see people willing to change allies/enemies... even if it is all based on smooths grudge against phantom. but i do want to ask you HP guys this, if FCC really considered itself at war with you, dont you think some of the armies in hosp lands would have paid you a visit before we launched an invasion against a much better fortified enemy? I mean really, if we had ANY interest at all in harming hero party lands, dont you think we would have sent troops at your fiefs instead of pouring fuel onto our old war with hosp?

my point exactly matey. Were we really at war with them it would have been a bit different. I am fine with them signing however they wish, but thinking it was more then us stopping them from bull rushing bird clan is just wrong.

I would also not consider it being a 2 sided map at the moment. Hosp, hero, frisdin freedom, FP, Fcc, NH, VE, remnant, occitan, tamda pact nations, pale horse, Chaos (prob missed some).. all are about their own goals. If it was 2 sided they would be either allied with us or ve.. as far as I know we have a few friendly groups... some hostile, but none beholden to us and we are only at war with hosp at the moment. None of the other groups are at war as far as I know right now. 
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Thax on December 12, 2012, 12:38:53 am
nvm
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: SHinOCk on December 12, 2012, 12:44:43 am
my point exactly matey. Were we really at war with them it would have been a bit different. I am fine with them signing however they wish, but thinking it was more then us stopping them from bull rushing bird clan is just wrong.

I would also not consider it being a 2 sided map at the moment. Hosp, hero, Fcc, VE, remnant, occitan, tamda pact nations, pale horse, Chaos (prob missed some).. all are about their own goals. If it was 2 sided they would be either allied with us or ve.. as far as I know we have a few friendly groups... some hostile, but none beholden to us and we are only at war with hosp at the moment. None of the other groups are at war as far as I know right now.

It is 2 sided because both your clans are indirectly bullying all the small/medium clans around you into not doing anything or allying with 1 of your clans if they don't wanna get annihilated by your superior resources. Its true especially with FCC since you guys don't need a real reason to go to war forcing your idea that we should fight day and night for the sake of fighting on other people. Your influence overreach your borders and that's a sad thing. Remember the threats of war if we bought a fief HP had taken from LLjK!? and were at the other end of the map. Just imagine the clans around you now and what they have to deal with every time they try to plan their next moves.

I understand why HP might not like you guys anymore, the vassal thing sounds like bullshit and makes no sense i'm sorry, a 1 man clan don't have vassals. I'm pretty sure everybody beside ppl from your clan sees the Bird clan absorbing LLjK like a cheap move from LLjK to get protection from FCC. At least that's how i see it and no amount of bad propaganda and excuses will make me see another angle to that move.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Visconti on December 12, 2012, 01:08:35 am
I dont see how are bullying people into not doing anything, considering we havent even talked to most of the factions on the map for anything other then trade. No way it can be called a 2 sided map atm, especially considering Occitan just came back to NA with all their EU goodies. Not to mention, Hospi didnt lose that much in terms of troops/gear during our war with them at the start of this strat, unless the armies they sent at Dusturil was most of what they had, which i dont believe. They are still a pretty big player on NA strat, same goes for Remnant, Hero party, NH, the TAMDA factions, and CHAOS/Horsemen. 
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: SHinOCk on December 12, 2012, 01:18:24 am
You're biased Trist, im talking about your clan, i understand what you mean but take a look at what happened this strat so far and ask yourself why nothing is happening anymore. I can't speak for all the clans but i sure as hell don't see mine as a big player on NA map yet since we hold only 3 fiefs and are still trying to settle in. There's also the history behind this whole strat so far that makes ppl think about their next move like VE destroying a clan 10 times smaller (Chevaliers) and FCC completely removing KUTT from the map because THEY decided they were not fit to hold any land at all.

Theres also another thing and that's my own opinion, due to your good standing with FCC in the past, im pretty sure you guys would end up being allies again and feeding each other resources/troops if 1 of you got in trouble for any reasons. That's another reason why you guys are the 2 power block of this strat
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Aztek on December 12, 2012, 02:50:51 am
Just wanted to say good fight tonight guys, Thanks for those who showed up for both sides, and especially those who came to our aid last minute as we were lacking in the roster department.

Lets leave the rest of the comments out of here.

So again,

- Good fight
- Thanks to everyone for showing up
- Tomorrow is another day

And remember, Only you can prevent forest fires!
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Gristle on December 12, 2012, 03:18:25 am
I was going to post a picture of our fuckhuge equipment list, but I print screened it and then lost it while writing this post. Oops. We had so much gear that we couldn't equip any projectile weapons or ammo for the first few minutes of the battle. That's why we were throwing ourselves at the fight without any order. Had to do everything we could to lose equipment!

I understand why HP might not like you guys anymore, the vassal thing sounds like bullshit and makes no sense i'm sorry, a 1 man clan don't have vassals. I'm pretty sure everybody beside ppl from your clan sees the Bird clan absorbing LLjK like a cheap move from LLjK to get protection from FCC. At least that's how i see it and no amount of bad propaganda and excuses will make me see another angle to that move.

What doesn't make sense? We swore vassalage to BIRD CLAN. It's really that simple. Apparently everyone thought it was a joke until shit got real.

Here's an angle for ya:

This is what I don't understand. We've been very clear and honest about why we're involved in this war. We have always claimed to be vassals of BIRD CLAN, and you are the unfortunate party to find out it was more than a joke. You honestly got screwed here. Yes, that is true. LLJK became BIRD CLAN just as you were ready to attack (a coincidence on partyboy's part, but perhaps not LLJK's), which then also forced our hand to get involved. We had other plans before this all happened, and we would happily leave if you would call off this war against the peaceful BIRD nation. We simply must defend them from any aggressor.

Hey, it's the same thing you just said, only I said it 2 weeks ago! Crazy, right? You can call us liars all you want, but the story hasn't changed. Maybe it's silly, but we will defend BIRD CLAN, so people better accept it for what it is. There is no conspiracy. Again, we would have attacked Hero Party's fiefs if we really wanted to fight them. We're clearly not doing that.

and FCC completely removing KUTT from the map because THEY decided they were not fit to hold any land at all.

As far as I'm concerned, the KUTT war happened because they were allied with Hospitallers. Many factions were already attacking Hosp, so we tied up their biggest ally and our neighbor. And, honestly, who wouldn't be wary when the friend of your enemy is your neighbor? KUTT had said that they wouldn't be helping Hosp during the war, but we didn't believe that. Really, who forms an alliance and defensive pact and then declares that they will not be helping in any way? Now that does not make sense! In any case, we forced them to not be able to help. Who knew the wars against Hosp would all die down while ours raged on? That did kind of make it pointless in the end. Sorry, KUTT.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Lordark on December 12, 2012, 04:04:55 am
Lets hear 3 cheers for Aztek! Best god damn Diplomat Hosp has ever had! No bull shit no Sarcasm just plain facts. 
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Thax on December 12, 2012, 04:45:56 am
Everyone in the community knows that you are bird clans protector no matter how many times you type the word vassal.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Gristle on December 12, 2012, 04:59:47 am
Speaking of people with grudges...

Everyone in the community knows that you are bird clans protector no matter how many times you type the word vassal.

No shit we're going to protect them. You think we would swear vassalage and then do nothing? I'm sure that sounded like a great argument in your head.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 12, 2012, 05:12:31 am
not sure where the post anger came form Shinny but I will try and trim it down and clear some things up.

1. Been bird clans vassals since strat 2 (maybe before but that is when i started playing) So nothing new. HP was just the first people to attack them. If I had the time I would bother looking back and pulling out an old post from forever ago stating it. Well prior to HP attacking them.

2. Did lljk do a crappy thing and turn pink to avoid an attack. Very likely.. Did anyone consult FCC about it. No sir. Just happened one day and we reacted the best we could the next. Honestly would rather have not gotten involved. But that would have been shitty of us.

3. HP war (peace keeping mission) was never a big thing. Once they left bird clan lands we generally forgot about it.

4. Not sure why occitan is mad at us. We actually tried to be friends with you guys this strat when you came back to NA. Tried to help get you new lands and everything and open trade. Pretty much told no thanks.

5. Not sure why people keep throwing the kutt war in our faces like we were picking on anyone. At the time they had more members than us and were allied with Hosp another large faction. We attacked them on our own and did very well. Even taking two cities on first attack no shitty raids (who else has done that this strat?) About half way thru I tried to broker a piece deal with great terms. Was told no thanks we were asking for to much.. again there is a thread somewhere with the details. Told them point blank we wanted one of the cites and we would give other stuff back... if not then we will try and take it all... That happened. Wen then gave away a large portion of what we won to new clans who are now their own entity in the north separate from us.

6. Hosp attacked us first... We wanted them to do it I am sure but still they could have ignored the guy.

7. yeah I actually like some of the hosp guys. But its a war game.. you can not hate on us because we play it like one. Everyone else seems to be playing house at the moment and spending their time at home with their feet up. IF we do that all our people get bored and quit.


TL/DR   FCC is mean do not be our friends.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Thax on December 12, 2012, 05:23:11 am
Traditionally vassals are the ones that need protection from their larger and more powerful lords to whom they swore fealty. The true order of relations here would be that bird clan is, in fact, your vassal. Regardless of how you want to spin it.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: SHinOCk on December 12, 2012, 05:29:59 am
No anger at all Bale, im just saying rather calmly what i think a lot of people from other clans might think but not say for fear of getting on the bad side of the fence or just because they don't bother reading/posting on the forums at all. At this point whatever trouble i could get into for saying what i think is the least of my concerns so i figured i could give my opinion on these subjects
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: arowaine on December 12, 2012, 05:33:58 am

4. Not sure why occitan is mad at us. We actually tried to be friends with you guys this strat when you came back to NA. Tried to help get you new lands and everything and open trade. Pretty much told no thanks.

Um not sure where you get that we still not mad after all  but we unforthunatly cant trade with you.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Keshian on December 12, 2012, 05:48:59 am
Um not sure where you get that we still not mad after all  but we unforthunatly cant trade with you.

Why not??  We are actually opening up trade deals with 2-3 new clans recently, would be glad to trade with you,.  Hell, we just "traded" 22,000 goods with Hospitallers.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Aztek on December 12, 2012, 11:17:00 am
Why not??  We are actually opening up trade deals with 2-3 new clans recently, would be glad to trade with you,.  Hell, we just "traded" 22,000 goods with Hospitallers.

Ohhhh Snap! .... wait!  lol
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Gristle on December 12, 2012, 12:02:39 pm
Traditionally vassals are the ones that need protection from their larger and more powerful lords to whom they swore fealty. The true order of relations here would be that bird clan is, in fact, your vassal. Regardless of how you want to spin it.

Duh, he's the GODKING. There can be no more powerful than he.

We swore allegiance. You can go ahead and call us protectors if it makes you feel better. I have no interest in arguing semantics with you.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 12, 2012, 05:37:39 pm
Aztek I was completely serious about working with u to not fight these over night battles. Even if that means stopping our armies in place so we can land attacks during prime time. We now have a 1 and 2 am coming up, with more waiting to go after. I hate being in a war that I do not even get to fight. Yout have me on steam, lets start talking, a little coordination and we can have them at good time, otherwise it ruins everyone's fun.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: partyboy on December 12, 2012, 08:34:30 pm
Spergs don't understand that you can be a one person faction and command vassals with nothing more than blazing charisma.  And I'm not going to explain any more of how LLJK wasn't hiding behind FCC at all as they agreed to completely dissolve their faction and give up to BIRD CLAN.  LLJK is dead and the members I took from them, as well as the fiefs, have become my property and thus an extension of myself.  I am the GODKING, BRING BACK LADDERS.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Artyem on December 12, 2012, 09:04:48 pm
Partyboy is a GODKING and can put points into Charisma and Intelligence while the rest of us are stuck with Strength and Agility.

Therefore, his character is far more superior than ours and we are obedient to his command.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Aztek on December 13, 2012, 12:12:37 am
Bale I'm with ya buddy, I hate those times too, We had a guy attack murder right after the fight, I'm not sure why it took so long to reach him.

If you want to make sure the times are set to a decent time just have murder sit in front of tulga, as that is our point of attack (Obviously) so we can hold him up as long as possible. All jokes aside you guys are taking our S&D and try to dash away, which turns into us doing anything possible to stop them, which sometimes makes for horrible battles as its an attack of first opportunity.

I'm not trying to be facetious but normal battle times could be acquired by setting up open battlefield fights between the two parties, we attack once, you attack next, etc. Or you continue to steal our S&D and force the chance that we try and hold that entity, or its supporting army near by before you have the chance to leave our land.

Again, No one likes these times, Yesterday was the first fight I was able to make because of work.

If your serious about setting these fights, Have any army that has a large amount of our goods sit put and not dash out. Now I know that's not very authentic proposal to a war game, but the only solution I can think of right now that facilitates our need to keep the goods in our land, and your needs for a decent battle time, I'm all up for idea's tho.

Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 13, 2012, 12:57:04 am
How about this instead.


After each fight there is an hour immunity. We will march for one hour. Then stop as long as you agree to attack us at a better time.. We can help that by manipulating our sleep timer to push it ahead 8 hours to prime.

If you can agree to that we will as well.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Smoothrich on December 13, 2012, 02:45:24 am
You are aware of why Smoothrich wanted to start the war with LLJK, right? Yeah, that whole damn mess was started through someone holding a grudge. Well, I personally hold no grudges against Hero Party, and I'd like to be on good terms again once you guys stop hatin' on BIRD CLAN.

Posting just to say I have zero grudges against Phantom or LLJK, was just attacking an equal sized, independent faction with more fiefs then us.  Then FCC sent down 4-5k troops immediately, threatened to invade Occitan if they bought any of our captured fiefs from us, ordered their vassals to begin striking all of our caravans in the north while using their own troops to reinforce them (Dracul raiding people going to Jabrona castle with Matey reinforcing them to keep him locked down for days), having Kesh micro manage members of BIRD clan on the strat map, and explicitly endorsing multiaccounting by their members to have multiple armies on the Strat map and lying about it being relatives in order to stay unbanned. 

Good luck :)
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: partyboy on December 13, 2012, 03:25:30 am
sounds like you probably shouldn't attack BIRD CLAN
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Smoothrich on December 13, 2012, 03:29:06 am
sounds like you probably shouldn't attack BIRD CLAN

Nothing more satisfying in Strategus then taking a bunch of care bears out to pasture.  Call me Teddy Roosevelt. 

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Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Tanken on December 13, 2012, 03:29:41 am
Posting just to say I have zero grudges against Phantom or LLJK, was just attacking an equal sized, independent faction with more fiefs then us.  Then FCC sent down 4-5k troops immediately, threatened to invade Occitan if they bought any of our captured fiefs from us, ordered their vassals to begin striking all of our caravans in the north while using their own troops to reinforce them (Dracul raiding people going to Jabrona castle with Matey reinforcing them to keep him locked down for days), having Kesh micro manage members of BIRD clan on the strat map, and explicitly endorsing multiaccounting by their members to have multiple armies on the Strat map and lying about it being relatives in order to stay unbanned. 

Good luck :)



Whoa.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 13, 2012, 03:37:50 am
Posting just to say I have zero grudges against Phantom or LLJK, was just attacking an equal sized, independent faction with more fiefs then us.  Then FCC sent down 4-5k troops immediately, threatened to invade Occitan if they bought any of our captured fiefs from us, ordered their vassals to begin striking all of our caravans in the north while using their own troops to reinforce them (Dracul raiding people going to Jabrona castle with Matey reinforcing them to keep him locked down for days), having Kesh micro manage members of BIRD clan on the strat map, and explicitly endorsing multiaccounting by their members to have multiple armies on the Strat map and lying about it being relatives in order to stay unbanned. 

Good luck :)

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Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: partyboy on December 13, 2012, 03:40:56 am
I'm not sure how any of that reflects poorly on BIRD CLAN, except maybe the kesh micro manage thing.  But I do ask Kesh a lot of questions about what to do in strat because I can't be bothered to learn all the tricks and bugs you have to exploit to win.  imo the more time you invest in the game the more serious you get and the more you lose on a personal level.

have fun, LOVE AND PEACE

(BRING BACK LADDERS)
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Keshian on December 13, 2012, 03:47:07 am

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.  Coo-Coo, coo-coo. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.  Coo-Coo, coo-coo.All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.  Coo-Coo, coo-coo.All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.  Coo-Coo, coo-coo.All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.  Coo-Coo, coo-coo.All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.  Coo-Coo, coo-coo.All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.  Coo-Coo, coo-coo.All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.  Coo-Coo, coo-coo.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lQ_MjU4QHw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lQ_MjU4QHw)
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Harrys Oil Can on December 13, 2012, 03:52:05 am
I'm not sure how any of that reflects poorly on BIRD CLAN, except maybe the kesh micro manage thing.  But I do ask Kesh a lot of questions about what to do in strat because I can't be bothered to learn all the tricks and bugs you have to exploit to win.  imo the more time you invest in the game the more serious you get and the more you lose on a personal level.

have fun, LOVE AND PEACE

(BRING BACK LADDERS)
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Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Kirbyy on December 13, 2012, 03:54:21 am
I hope FCC and Hosp can work out these times.  I need xp for my loomsss!


And for this stupid bird clan/Hero Party fight, I believe you should post here:

http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/megaclan-hero-party-attack-fledgling-bird-clan!!/
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Tanken on December 13, 2012, 03:56:26 am
That guy above me has a very awesome signature. I vaguely remember saying that.


Oh yes, Diplomacy section... Uh, down with the heretics! Slay those whom spread fallacies!
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 13, 2012, 04:32:07 am
If you want to make sure the times are set to a decent time just have murder sit in front of tulga, as that is our point of attack (Obviously) so we can hold him up as long as possible. All jokes aside you guys are taking our S&D and try to dash away, which turns into us doing anything possible to stop them, which sometimes makes for horrible battles as its an attack of first opportunity.

It's more like I'm gallivanting around with it.

Also it did take you 5 hours to attack me after the battle last night and I move incredibly slow with 7000 crates, and you had guys less than 1000m away from where the battle happened, waiting.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Abay on December 13, 2012, 04:35:08 am
I think Hosp guyz are nice. Their battles are also fun. Thanks for it  :wink:
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 13, 2012, 04:36:32 am
Posting just to say I have zero grudges against Phantom or LLJK, was just attacking an equal sized, independent faction with more fiefs then us.  Then FCC sent down 4-5k troops immediately, threatened to invade Occitan if they bought any of our captured fiefs from us, ordered their vassals to begin striking all of our caravans in the north while using their own troops to reinforce them (Dracul raiding people going to Jabrona castle with Matey reinforcing them to keep him locked down for days), having Kesh micro manage members of BIRD clan on the strat map, and explicitly endorsing multiaccounting by their members to have multiple armies on the Strat map and lying about it being relatives in order to stay unbanned. 

Good luck :)

I want to comment and spin this post but I am not sure what he is ranting about. I will do my bets anyway since I am the new spin doctor in the clubhouse.

Does kesh help bird clan by telling them where to be... Yup does the same thing with fcc.

We do not have any vassals. Dracul I believe is a vassal of bird clan just like us. So it is only right to reinforce them when they are attacking an enemy of bird clan.

You captured bird clan fiefs but did not bother defending them. So how could you sell things we we taking back?

Not sure how telling bird clan where to go is against the rules. Endorsing multi-accounting? No idea what that even means. Are you accusing kesh of multiaccounting?  I must have missed something about relatives etc.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Blackzilla on December 13, 2012, 04:47:03 am
Not sure how telling bird clan where to go is against the rules. Endorsing multi-accounting? No idea what that even means. Are you accusing kesh of multiaccounting?  I must have missed something about relatives etc.

http://fcc-revealed.ytmnd.com/ (http://fcc-revealed.ytmnd.com/) <---riddle, but its easy!
Basically, Flying Dildos and Texas Obesity are the same people. I was in fact TOLD this in PRO Vent some time ago, before he joined FCC. I always thought it was an alt! I mean, has anyone ever seen these two playing at the same time? Have they ever both participated in a Strat battle together? They both work sooo well in strat, yet they never play at the same time. I dont know man, but that is what smooth was talking about Bale!


On topic: Hosp I will always merc for you against FCC and to try and gather extra mercs to help you in your future fights!
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Kirbyy on December 13, 2012, 04:55:36 am
We dont want anymore urine on the map. :|
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Malaclypse on December 13, 2012, 05:32:40 am
Basically, Flying Dildos and Texas Obesity are the same people.

That's what Serge had us believe back when, so I've always assumed it was the case.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Smoothrich on December 13, 2012, 05:43:55 am
CONFESSIONS.........

REDACTED: its bullshit
REDACTED: kesh logs in at work with multiaccounts
REDACTED: from diff computers
Smoothrich: lmao
REDACTED: i was told to give any extra accounts to him so he could get them on the strat map
REDACTED: from work
Smoothrich: ahahaha
Smoothrich: kesh is grey order

How far does the FCC multiaccounting conspiracy go?  More and more information is being revealed by the day.  Honestly this seems like the biggest, worse case of cheating I've seen since the Grey Order fiasco several strats ago.  Not surprised that FCC has thousands of troops to spare all across the map and everything seems so neatly organized, efficient, and controlled like a hive mind when FCC goes to war.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: arowaine on December 13, 2012, 05:47:15 am
CONFESSIONS.........

REDACTED: its bullshit
REDACTED: kesh logs in at work with multiaccounts
REDACTED: from diff computers
Smoothrich: lmao
REDACTED: i was told to give any extra accounts to him so he could get them on the strat map
REDACTED: from work
Smoothrich: ahahaha
Smoothrich: kesh is grey order

How far does the FCC multiaccounting conspiracy go?  More and more information is being revealed by the day.  Honestly this seems like the biggest, worse case of cheating I've seen since the Grey Order fiasco several strats ago.  Not surprised that FCC has thousands of troops to spare all across the map and everything seems so neatly organized, efficient, and controlled like a hive mind when FCC goes to war.
HO shit
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: partyboy on December 13, 2012, 05:48:08 am
redacted said that!??  well, I like kesh but redacted never lies...

my heart is torn.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on December 13, 2012, 05:59:30 am
I don't know shit from shat here, but I'm entirely sure that those "chat logs" don't give any validity to your statements. Like, comon, it's not even a photoshopped or legit screenshot of a steam convo or anything. It's just some text. Like, lolwut.

Also; welcome back Smoothrich. The diplomacy forums were pretty shit with you muted.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Artyem on December 13, 2012, 06:46:34 am
blablabla I'm a hypocrite blablabla drama 'propaganda'

I again refer you to your own self afflicted idiotic hypocrisy and point out that you and your affiliates spend probably 90% of their time on the diplomacy section spewing tons of bullshit about FCC and friends propaganda.  However, you quickly begin to spout your own defecated speech about how FCC is multi-accounting, about how they have hundreds of supposed "vassals" that they micromanage themselves and how it's all one big conspiracy revolving around how we all want to take your lands.

Way to overgeneralize everything, for the hundredth time, Smoothrich.

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Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 13, 2012, 06:50:37 am
How far does the FCC multiaccounting conspiracy go?


Probably pretty deep as do all conspiracies. I mean, this is coming from Hero Party of all sources, of which is full of conspiracy nuts. Take for example Shik who kept babbling on about only Eastern Europeans being checked and banned for multi-accounters and only shut up on irc about it after chadz actually said "Bullshit" but still mutters about it when you let him  :wink:  Or there was your Oil Money thread, which took one shard of truth and warped it into a complete nutjob conspiracy which involved bribing Classical with hundred of dollars among other things :lol:


While this latest troll attempt is certainly amusing, it is hardly original, but please, do carry on, for the sake of all of our amusements. We all know that you have bark but no bite, and are merely a sensationalist for posting purposes.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Matey on December 13, 2012, 07:53:44 am
wow smooth. Kesh isn't a saint but i call bullshit on him encouraging anyone to multiaccount.

anyways...

REDACTED: its bullshit
REDACTED: smooth logs in at work with multiaccounts
REDACTED: from diff computers
Kesh: lmao
REDACTED: i was told to give any extra accounts to him so he could get them on the strat map
REDACTED: from work
Kesh: ahahaha
Kesh: smooth is grey order


see what i did there? i dont know this redacted fellow, but i call bullshit.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Braeden on December 13, 2012, 08:00:56 am
I call shenanigans on any attempts to compare Smooth or Kesh to Harpag.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Auphilia on December 13, 2012, 08:42:52 am
There hath been truths untold! Only united, can the conspirators conspire a conspiratorial conspiracy!

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Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 13, 2012, 10:16:11 am
Okay I stopped, my hour has ended.  Let's try for something reasonable.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 13, 2012, 10:32:20 am
Is this the time when it turns out Smoothrich is actually Kesh and two thirds of the strategus map?
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Gristle on December 13, 2012, 12:42:32 pm
Posting just to say I have zero grudges against Phantom or LLJK

That's not what you said on our TS about a week before you declared war. Of course, I have no evidence as I'm not the type to start recording guests in our TS just in case they say something incriminating. I'm rarely one to even reveal something said in confidence, but I know you're lying here. I don't know why you can't just admit it. It's hardly the worst reason to go to war.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 13, 2012, 01:17:49 pm
well that is very interesting... I am 90% sure kesh has been unemployed for a month or two... making the multi account from work very difficult.

regardless most companies I know have internal ip addresses on their network but use a trunk line to get out to the world. I am pretty sure it would not be that hard to see a bunch of accounts coming from a place of business.

Kesh likes to direct the strat stage.. go here and do that go there etc.... and frankly he is great at it. Otherwise nothing in strat would be organized. Just because your faction is like herding kittens does not mean ours is cheating.

I believe there was just a round of catching people for multiaccounting... notice how no FCC were on it?
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Blackzilla on December 13, 2012, 02:11:57 pm
well that is very interesting... I am 90% sure kesh has been unemployed for a month or two... making the multi account from work very difficult.

regardless most companies I know have internal ip addresses on their network but use a trunk line to get out to the world. I am pretty sure it would not be that hard to see a bunch of accounts coming from a place of business.

Kesh likes to direct the strat stage.. go here and do that go there etc.... and frankly he is great at it. Otherwise nothing in strat would be organized. Just because your faction is like herding kittens does not mean ours is cheating.

I believe there was  a round of catching people for multiaccounting... notice how no FCC were on it?
I don't know if Kesh is multi accounting but dildos is, I mean Serge, his roommate, told us he is Texas obesity and Flying dildos... :/
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 13, 2012, 02:57:51 pm
It would be nice if there was a better way to coordinate these battle times, but short of asking the FCC armies to stand in place for 18 hours I don't see how that's going to happen.

I still don't know why it took so long to attack after the battle two nights ago..
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Shik on December 13, 2012, 04:50:24 pm
I believe there was just a round of catching people for multiaccounting... notice how no FCC were on it?
account sharing, not multiaccounting.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 13, 2012, 05:02:33 pm
Ok.. either way no fcc were banned in any rounds.

as for holding still I proposed this very thing. we are happy to march our free hour then pause so that fights are at better times. I asked your leaders and the response was ehh how about we take turns attacking each other instead. Which does not make any sense since we are trying to get away with your goods.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: oprah_winfrey on December 13, 2012, 05:36:52 pm
Ok.. either way no fcc were banned in any rounds.

as for holding still I proposed this very thing. we are happy to march our free hour then pause so that fights are at better times. I asked your leaders and the response was ehh how about we take turns attacking each other instead. Which does not make any sense since we are trying to get away with your goods.

So are you saying that Flying Dildos and Texas Obesity are two different people?
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 13, 2012, 05:41:47 pm
I honestly have no idea. The only time I am on ts is for strat fights or discussions on strategy. I know the voices of a handful of people.. the rest are just voices from the speakers.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on December 13, 2012, 07:40:32 pm
Given Kesh is your clan leader...

...(FCC still is run by a council, made up of whoever is on when stuff happens)

Kesh likes to direct the strat stage.. go here and do that go there etc.... and frankly he is great at it.

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Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Artyem on December 13, 2012, 08:04:13 pm
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Am i doing it right ive always wanted to make an ancient aliens guy meme.

I think it'd be silly to have a council direct every strat move, and as far as I know Bale controls what happens in FCC lands and Kesh controls what happens outside of FCC lands.  Still sounds like a council to me, assuming large decisions are most likely made by a vote in a council.

Again, Kesh spreads propaganda in every post but anything you say is totally alright and propaganda free, right?
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 13, 2012, 08:09:49 pm
FCC isn't run by a council, it's run by a bunch of halfnaked people sitting in a cave breathing in natural gas in order to receive visions from demigodking partyboy.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Espwn on December 13, 2012, 08:12:33 pm
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Am i doing it right ive always wanted to make an ancient aliens guy meme.

And we are run by council. Kesh proposes a move/plan on the strat map and we vote for it. Even though some of us FCC members have taken a break from this game (LoL #1) Kesh still goes to every single channel and asks everyone if they think the idea proposed is the right one and asks for our personal input. Talking shit about Kesh and spreading all this bullshit propaganda is pretty childish, and this goes for everyone. It's a virtual game with pixelated swords and horses.

Grow up.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Gristle on December 13, 2012, 08:18:39 pm
There would be a whole lot more butthurt people if Kesh really was the only person in charge. You haters have no idea.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 13, 2012, 08:35:47 pm
There would be a whole lot more butthurt people if Kesh really was the only person in charge. You haters have no idea.
Everyone with brains know Kesh is but a servant of demigodking partyboy, as are all of you.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: partyboy on December 13, 2012, 08:37:42 pm
I rule  :twisted:
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 13, 2012, 09:03:27 pm
Lemmy going for a new record in the no clue decathalon again.

fcc is run by a council, who to attack, peace terms, overall strategy. Then a handful of us get to implement those decisions. As much as some of you hate Kesh, he is awesome at organization and getting people who generally do not care to where they need to be.

fcc would be in sad shape if it were up to the rest of us.

No different setup then normal military.. overall plan handled by war council and implementation handled by the generals in the field
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Mae. on December 13, 2012, 09:35:14 pm
  :twisted: 8-) :oops: <3Keshfan2012<3 :oops: 8-) :twisted:
luv yeu
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Matey on December 14, 2012, 12:12:25 am
my vote is typically to make kesh do everything.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: AluminumMonster on December 14, 2012, 01:27:24 am
I don't know if Kesh is multi accounting but dildos is, I mean Serge, his roommate, told us he is Texas obesity and Flying dildos... :/

hmmm, thats interesting. serge being a pretty big troll when he played about a year ago and his words still have weight. PRO clan was definitely not a troll clan :rolleyes: and no, he was never my roommate, but he does live like a block away from me. get your facts straight kid. kthxbai :P
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: oprah_winfrey on December 14, 2012, 01:47:54 am
hmmm, thats interesting. serge being a pretty big troll when he played about a year ago and his words still have weight. PRO clan was definitely not a troll clan :rolleyes: and no, he was never my roommate, but he does live like a block away from me. get your facts straight kid. kthxbai :P

I find it weird that no one from FCC has said that you are two seperate people.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Blackzilla on December 14, 2012, 02:05:12 am
hmmm, thats interesting. serge being a pretty big troll when he played about a year ago and his words still have weight. PRO clan was definitely not a troll clan :rolleyes: and no, he was never my roommate, but he does live like a block away from me. get your facts straight kid. kthxbai :P
So he does know you? What would he have to troll about if I asked him who Texas Obesity is? And have him tell me its you, I mean, you cant really troll there. It's not like Serge cared about strat.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 14, 2012, 02:09:35 am
It's not like Serge cared about strat nor did he know what multiaccounting was. :/


Wat?


Care to elaborate on that part? Last I talked to him he was far from being that oblivious.
I mean, you cant really troll there.
You can pretty much troll everywhere about everything.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Blackzilla on December 14, 2012, 02:12:19 am

Wat?


Care to elaborate on that part? Last I talked to him he was far from being that oblivious.You can pretty much troll everywhere about everything.
hmph caught me before the edit eh? Well I don't think he truely cared if his friend multiaccounted and didnt care if he told others. I took that part out for a reason! :wink:

You can pretty much troll everywhere about everything.
Yes, but it was a simple yes/no question, I received a yes and that was all.
 
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 14, 2012, 03:17:52 am
We're burning prime time here.  Get Aderyn to attack me already, like we agreed.  Also, let's keep these battles going, I want to be first Strat (gold) millionaire and first Strat renown millioniare.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Tanken on December 14, 2012, 03:19:37 am
Already ahead of you Murder, actually, my Renown is nearing the 1.3mil renown area.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 14, 2012, 04:07:11 am
they never agreed Murder. If they are not attacking by now (we have waited a long time) I imagine start marching again
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 14, 2012, 04:22:14 am
they never agreed Murder. If they are not attacking by now (we have waited a long time) I imagine start marching again
They agreed verbally last night.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: BaleOhay on December 14, 2012, 05:00:19 am
Murder you can move. I talked to peppo and they are not attacking tonight. He will get talk to me tomorrow to let me know what they are doing. So set your movement and walk over night
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: AluminumMonster on December 14, 2012, 05:08:46 am
hai guise, i was just hanging out with serge today and guess what?!?! the flying spaghetti monster IS real, jews dont control the media and america is known for its health and fitness.

- PRO_TheSerge_GOD has spoken!!
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Gmnotutoo on December 14, 2012, 06:27:47 am
I'm the real leader of the FCC, the council is just my puppet government to hide my true genius. If the FCC has gone to war with you, its because I decreed it.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Huey Newton on December 14, 2012, 06:52:36 am
Save the white race
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Malaclypse on December 14, 2012, 07:20:04 am
Exterminate white people
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Mae. on December 14, 2012, 08:45:12 am
Exterminate white people
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Rhalzo on December 14, 2012, 08:47:54 am
Exterminate white people

Exterminate white people

Exterminate white people

Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 14, 2012, 05:37:51 pm
Exterminate white people

Bring it on and you'll get honky bonked.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Aderyn on December 15, 2012, 12:35:33 am
Exterminate white people

racism. ban he
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: miggy on December 15, 2012, 07:11:21 am
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Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Huey Newton on December 15, 2012, 10:03:17 pm
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: Harrys Oil Can on December 15, 2012, 10:54:31 pm
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what do the mods have against rapeseed?
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: kinngrimm on December 19, 2012, 01:42:23 pm
...
how about getting rid also of government guns? you know if those dudes in power don't have them then others don't need them either. But wait that would then include also fighter jets, military naval vessels, tanks ... a huge job machine which had been implemented over the past 80 years and and and no more wars for ressources ... no more fiddling around in the business of other nations. Common response to that idear, you are naive ... well so are those who think you can solve problems with guns as you know not the guns kills people, people kill people, giving them weapons just makes it easier.

EDIT: I gladly took a warning for this(my first ever ^^), aslong BS reallife propaganda wouldn't stay uncontested.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 20, 2012, 07:21:22 am
I just paid out all my mercs for my battles against Hospitallers, like I promised, after cashing out all the goods I took.  500 for good scores, 250 for even or good low activity scores and 100 just for showing up.  Thanks a lot guys, couldn't have won those battles without you.
Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 20, 2012, 07:22:44 am
I just paid out all my mercs for my battles against Hospitallers, like I promised, after cashing out all the goods I took.  500 for good scores, 250 for even or good low activity scores and 100 just for showing up.  Thanks a lot guys, couldn't have won those battles without you.

After cashing out all the goods you took at Dirigh Aban and sold at Ichamur?   What'd you make like 5 gold per good?   :lol:

That's some shitty merc payments you got there

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Title: Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 20, 2012, 08:02:37 am
After cashing out all the goods you took at Dirigh Aban and sold at Ichamur?   What'd you make like 5 gold per good?   :lol:

That's some shitty merc payments you got there


Well, if you checked the gold in Distar Castle you got from tax, you'd see you're clearly wrong.  However, I wouldn't want to see you start posting based on facts, it just wouldn't be the same.

Also, it's not polite to make fun of retarded robots... that's like our holocaust.