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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: Boerenlater on December 08, 2012, 09:52:27 pm
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Hey guys. I used to have a +1 heavy round but it broke too fast with 5 skill. Im going for 6 skill so I can use any shield I want.
But what should I loom? Buckler any good?
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Same as with any other piece of equipment, choose one you have tried, and like playing with.
Shieldwise, my choices are:
-Knightly kite shield. Great against non shield breakers, run away from them. (or elite cav shield, similar but round, which some people say gives a bigger covering area)
-Huscarl's Good at everything, a very solid choice. Bigger but heavier and slower
-One of the steel ones. Avoid shieldbreakers at all costs, otherwise they are nearly unbreakable. Even slower
So choose your shield style, try it, then loom it. You can always trade it if you are not happy with it in the future
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Elite cav shield or Huscarl's shield.
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Loom Elite Cavalry Shield. It is great and if you don't like it you can trade it against any other shield and get gold on top of it. Other great choices are Knightly Heater, Knightly Kite and Plate Covered Round Shield. Huscarl's is also a very good shield but not worth looming because it is already quite popular. Better offer 2 loompoints (+ some gold) on the marketplace and ask for the +3 version of it.
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I trade my Huscarl+3 for Elite cav, K heater, K kite, Plate covered or Heavy round. I give some gold, check the marketplace.
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heavy round shield, imo, over anything. :) elite cav, knightly kite, knightly heather & plate covered are amazing shields aswell.
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For coverage reasons, you're better off with round shields. The lower side coverage of other shields is quite noticeable.
A +3 Heavy round with 6 shield skill will rarely break unless you let it get hit by shield breakers.
If you're using a shield that has a weight of 6 or less, heavy weapons with held attacks can shield stun you pretty easily.
Some people LOVE the metal shields, but I personally don't like them. I find them way to slow. But, just play around with a few and find one that works well for you.
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heavy round shield, imo, over anything. :) elite cav, knightly kite, knightly heather & plate covered are amazing shields aswell.
I love me some heavy round shield, too bad I can't use it on horse :/
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thank youuuu <2
its the plate covered round shiekd im gonna loom
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If you want to try the Huscarl, later, contact me.
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- Board Shield : It only needs one slot, despite being weight 8. This is a very solid choice (also it's simply better than the heavy version).
- Plate Covered Round Shield : An excellent 1 slot shield, although fugly.
- Knightly Heater Shield : Obviously the best looking shield by far :P it's quite balanced but lacks coverage due to not being round.
- Elite Cavalry Shield : I'd say it is better than the knightly heater/kite because of the coverage.
- Huscarl : Best coverage, too slow for my taste.
- Steel shield : Some people use them very effectively, I can't stand being so slow.
- Round steel Buckler (the other one is shit) : Be an asshole. It does break fast though. Not for everybody either.
The board shield, just to make others think you cheat when you pull out 3 other slots out of your ass.
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my personal fav is the elite cav shield. Its fast, has ok coverage and dosnt weight a ton.
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- Board Shield : It only needs one slot, despite being weight 8. This is a very solid choice (also it's simply better than the heavy version).
- Plate Covered Round Shield : An excellent 1 slot shield, although fugly.
- Knightly Heater Shield : Obviously the best looking shield by far :P it's quite balanced but lacks coverage due to not being round.
- Elite Cavalry Shield : I'd say it is better than the knightly heater/kite because of the coverage.
- Huscarl : Best coverage, too slow for my taste.
- Steel shield : Some people use them very effectively, I can't stand being so slow.
- Round steel Buckler (the other one is shit) : Be an asshole. It does break fast though. Not for everybody either.
The board shield, just to make others think you cheat when you pull out 3 other slots out of your ass.
Huscarl is too slow for you but not the Board shield ? Huscarl is just better. His problem is his 2 slots. So it depends of your build requirement.
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if a +1 heavy round (let alone a +3) is breaking too fast for you, you are blocking too much and not being aggressive enough.
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If you want to try the Huscarl, later, contact me.
Try how exactly? A loomed one? :P
And thanks for the comments and tips, it seems I block indeed too much.
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I have found in general a +3 shield vs normal is worth about 1 shield skill.
5 skill with a +3 huscarl should be overkill tho. I used one for a while when I was newer and eventually realized it was way too much shield and not necessary.
So try a heavy round shield with 6 skill it would be basically the equivalent of 5 skill with a +3. If it's ok you can work towards that.
Shielding takes a while to gain the timing and knowledge of swing speed/mechanics before you are able to really be aggressive but when you do you will find your shield breaking less and less. My +3 heavy round, 5 skill rarely breaks unless I have been alive for a long time and in heavy fighting, and by the time it is in splinters there's plenty on ground to scavange.
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Yeah, my +3 elite cav shield very rarely breaks unless going up against an axe and I am in a position where I can't put the shield away.
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If your problem is the round shield breaking quickly, get a heavy round shield or heavy kite shield and suck up the loss of speed. Here's my opinion on a few other shields though!
The round buckler should only be used if you will benefit from it costing 0 slots. Archers, arbalesters, and pike/1h/shield are those who need the extra slot.
Elite cav and knightly heater shield are fast with decent coverage. They can take quite a few hits, but a high PS build will break them even without an axe.
If you want the shield mostly to block ranged I recommend the board shield or kite shield. Those arrows won't even hit the bottom of your feet!
As cavalry (1h OR pole) I have always liked the heavy kite shield over the elite cav. Its length can protect your horse from dieing 5 seconds into a battle.
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If your problem is the round shield breaking quickly, get a heavy round shield or heavy kite shield and suck up the loss of speed. Here's my opinion on a few other shields though!
The round buckler should only be used if you will benefit from it costing 0 slots. Archers, arbalesters, and pike/1h/shield are those who need the extra slot.
Elite cav and knightly heater shield are fast with decent coverage. They can take quite a few hits, but a high PS build will break them even without an axe.
If you want the shield mostly to block ranged I recommend the board shield or kite shield. Those arrows won't even hit the bottom of your feet!
As cavalry (1h OR pole) I have always liked the heavy kite shield over the elite cav. Its length can protect your horse from dieing 5 seconds into a battle.
Cav that wants a real 2h or polearm backup weapon benefit from the 0 slots as well. Also, a high agi character might want it because of its weight.
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Try how exactly? A loomed one? :P
And thanks for the comments and tips, it seems I block indeed too much.
YYes, loomed, of course. Try as "exchange", if your are not satisfied, you could take it back.
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+3 Elite Cavalry Shield
Requirement:4 shield
Weight:5.5
Slots:-
Upkeep:266 gold
Speed:103
Width:32
Body armor:25
Hit points:303
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Either Elite Cavalry shield or heavy round shield.
Plate Covered round shield is a good choice if you have a lower shield skill, the other 2 excel at higher shield ratings.
For example with my 24/15 build I use a plate covered shield and with my 9/27 build I use the heavy round shield, both a great with their respective builds, also take into account the amount of slots they occupy also.
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After playing for a while I really started to like the plate covered. It can take many many hits and doesn't feel too slow.
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After playing for a while I really started to like the plate covered. It can take many many hits and doesn't feel too slow.
The problem with slow (<85 speed) shields is that everyone just holds their attacks against shields now, while maneuvering, hoping you drop your block or let them behind you. The best counter against these holds is to feint dropping your block, i.e. press attack, but then quickly raise shield again before the strike lands.
With a slow shield, you can't recover fast enough to block the swing, so you either have wait forever hoping a teammate attacks the guy holding attacks on you, or attempt kicks, or chambers or other risky maneuver. 87 speed (like the +3 HRS I use), is not quite fast enough to reliably feint dropping your block, although it works fine against slower weapons. I used a 90 speed for a while (+3 brown kite), and it was usually fast enough except against longswords/etc.
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Brown lion heater shield if you only want 3 shield skill. 4+ and I would rock the elite cav. I have the elite cav +3'd and its great for an aggressive shielder playstyle. I only use 4 shield skill because if I'm cautious it can last the whole round on foot, always lasts longer than my horse which is nice. I'm confident with my blocking so I use less shield skill than I used to. 5 or 6 shield will be more than enough +3'd to last a round.
Also with the market right now, if you don't like it you can get your moneys worth back and more. :)
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im selling a +1 round steel buckler btw : )