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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: dynamike on November 07, 2012, 10:02:23 pm

Title: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: dynamike on November 07, 2012, 10:02:23 pm
Laughter and crude songs could be heard floating over from the main camp of the Remnant army stationed outside of Yruma Castle, the last fortified bastion of KUTT. Preparations for the siege that would start later this night were in full effect and in good tradition of the Remnants before battle, beer and mead were flowing in large quantities.

In the command tent on the hill overlooking the killing field, the generals and strategusists of the Remnants were mulling over their battle strategy.

Remnant Noddles, Supreme Commander and Master Lubricator of this great Remnant army, several thousand men and spaghetti armed girls strong, was surveying once again the castle defenses laid out in front of him. He made an impressive sight, like a statue of a hero of old, standing on the hill, one hand shielding his eyes against the sinking sun, the other firmly planted inside the front of his breeches, gently moving back and forth. He grunted his approval to what he saw and must have felt at this defining moment in history.

Back in the tent, Elindor, Archon of the Holy Guard, the Remnants oldest allies, traced his finger across the map he had drawn of the castle and surrounding areas. The landscape, with its two adjacent great hills and two smaller hills on top and centered on each of the larger hills vaguely resembled a woman's breasts. To the south of the hills, past a small lake, a river bent sharply around a brush of smaller trees, forming an upside down V. It was into this reversed V that Elindor was stabbing furiously with his finger, all the while addressing Remnant Dexxtaa with his strategy proposal: "Sire, battalion D should be pushing hard into this natural V! From within the cover of these bushes we will be able to mount a surprise attack upon the rear of the enemy fortifications!". Dexxtaa seemed to flush in anticipation of this bold attempt to catch the foe with their pants down.

At the base of the hill, Remnant Sauce was in discussion with his self styled Miracle of Engineering on the conditions of their siege gear. Sauce, his brow wrinkled in concern, was glancing between the catapult and the heavy stones laying next to it. With a suspicious look on his face he addressed Miracle: "Does this thing even lift?" Miracle, always confident of his engineering skills that he had mastered and honed to perfection during a 30 minute training session, replied: "What the fuck do I know? It depends what we load the catapult with!". Sauce, Master Strategusist and Head Crab of the Remnants, scratched his beardless chin in thought. Suddenly, an evil grin stole upon his lips. Miracle, full well suspecting that Sauce might have an ingenious idea that could decide the fate of this battle, curiously posed the question: "What did you have in mind? What would you fling among our pitiful foes?". Sauce, a trace of madness in his eyes, screamed the answer into the setting sun: "MEEEAAAAT!"

In the meanwhile, Remnant dynamike had spent valuable time and well thought out planning to build several large siege towers in various crucial locations in preparation for the siege to come: the nearby lake could now be rapidly entered from great height from several siege towers and the army be supplied with fish caught from atop the platforms. Nobody could fault dynamike and his ingenious plans that the lake - after multiple tries - proved far too shallow for diving and the fishing lines to short to reach the surface. At least the siege tower built in the middle of the Remnant camp's latrine dugouts was useful to avoid the smell when defecating from its top. Only the falling feces caused some havoc among passer by's.

A song drifted over from the great fire in the main camp again and Noddles listened to the old war song the Remnants Maedae and Tom Cruise chanted in a duet. Tears filled his eyes when he thought back to all the memories this song brought with it, so closely intertwined in the history of the Remnants, and from the pain that went through his bowels. At last pulling up his pants and clasping shut his belt, he climbed down from the latrine siege tower, wiped away the tears and marched towards his men to ready them for the assault, all the while hearing the almost sacred words of the great artist Justinius Bieberian being sung in the background.

As the sun settled over the KUTT castle, everything seemed well prepared for the assault to come. The Remnants and their allies high five'd each other for the gods of Swords and Horses were with them and tonight they would dine in helluva castle!



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Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Mae. on November 07, 2012, 10:12:38 pm
that...
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Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Elindor on November 07, 2012, 10:22:44 pm
After going over the strategies with his Remnant comrades, Elindor wandered out of the safety of the officer tent to the dark snowy wilderness outside the camp - he needed to take a serious pee.  With him went his 100 or so man personal guard, but they had no more gear than peasants because all the equipment had been piled together for the main Yruma attack force.

Alas, while out on his pee, suddenly 'ol Tugboat showed up waving his arms over his head and yelling like a drunken barbarian.  He had with him his barely geared 100 or so man personal guard as well...

Elindor sighed "...here we go"


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Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Emotion on November 07, 2012, 10:50:15 pm
After the duet Lady Maedae and Ser Thomas Cruise so eloquently performed, Noddles stood astound. Glaring into the eyes of the lady, he clasped his hands around hers and pulled her to the safety of his tent for the real battle to begin.

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Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Mae. on November 07, 2012, 11:15:34 pm
:shock:
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: dynamike on November 07, 2012, 11:33:40 pm
After the duet Lady Maedae and Ser Tom Cruise so eloquently performed, Noddles stood astound. Glaring into the eyes of the lady, he clasped his hands around hers and pulled her to the safety of his tent for the real battle to begin.

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gotter
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: ildist on November 08, 2012, 01:55:36 am
gotter

HAHA I GET IT BECAUSE GIRL

#rydenism
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Sir Ryden on November 08, 2012, 01:56:54 am
lol
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Aderyn on November 08, 2012, 02:33:00 am
WOHOOO archery started working earlier today! Maybe i can come too? :D

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Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Jaren on November 08, 2012, 02:59:47 am

like a statue of a hero of old, standing on the hill, one hand shielding his eyes against the sinking sun, the other firmly planted inside the front of his breeches, gently moving back and forth. He grunted his approval to what he saw and must have felt at this defining moment in history.

Back in the tent, Elindor, Archon of the Holy Guard, the Remnants oldest allies, traced his finger across the map he had drawn of the castle and surrounding areas. The landscape, with its two adjacent great hills and two smaller hills on top and centered on each of the larger hills vaguely resembled a woman's breasts. To the south of the hills, past a small lake, a river bent sharply around a brush of smaller trees, forming an upside down V. It was into this reversed V that Elindor was stabbing furiously with his finger, all the while addressing Remnant Dexxtaa with his strategy proposal: "Sire, battalion D should be pushing hard into this natural V! From within the cover of these bushes we will be able to mount a surprise attack upon the rear of the enemy fortifications!". Dexxtaa seemed to flush in anticipation

With a suspicious look on his face he addressed Miracle: "Does this thing even lift?" Miracle, always confident of his engineering skills that he had mastered and honed to perfection during a 30 minute training session, replied: "What the fuck do I know? It depends what we load the catapult with!"

dynamike and his ingenious plans that the lake - after multiple tries - proved far too shallow for diving and the fishing lines to short to reach the surface. At least the siege tower built in the middle of the Remnant camp's latrine dugouts was useful to avoid the smell when defecating from its top. Only the falling feces caused some havoc among passer by's.

This was awesome Dynamike xD
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Kelugarn on November 08, 2012, 06:43:11 am
Legendary siege.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: The_Slim on November 08, 2012, 06:44:37 am
Hell of a fight, most fun I've had related to strat in a long time.

Thank you guys
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: dynamike on November 08, 2012, 06:44:42 am
We were not scared AT ALL about the time  :)

Good fight on both teams!
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: BadooN on November 08, 2012, 06:45:16 am
Great fucking fight
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 08, 2012, 06:46:32 am
Incredible fight. Down to the wire. 18 seconds remaining decided the winner.

Truly a fight to remember. G fucking G.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Jaren on November 08, 2012, 06:48:33 am
Definitely a lot of fun, most equip/ladders I've had to throw since end of strat 3, if this is how things are going to be for strat 4 I'm definitely looking forward to fighting against everyone. A lot of great teamwork and a lot of good tact in decisions well done Remnant that was fun.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 08, 2012, 06:55:12 am
REMEMBER YRUMAAAAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMMAMA
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Chestaclese on November 08, 2012, 06:59:52 am
yah nerds, get fucked.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Lordark on November 08, 2012, 07:01:23 am
Another easy win for the mega NA alliance.  I can only relish the day when one of these carebares attacks the other to see who will strike the real first blow in strategus NA not this BS fake war practice war

against weakened foes.

Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: jasonjay543 on November 08, 2012, 07:03:19 am
too many enemies on the groand
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 08, 2012, 07:06:36 am
Another easy win for the mega NA alliance.  I can only relish the day when one of these carebares attacks the other to see who will strike the real first blow in strategus NA not this BS fake war practice war

against weakened foes.

http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-discussion/who-would-win-in-a-cav-duel/msg621856/#msg621856

Also, don't you think you're being a little hypocritical.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Lordark on November 08, 2012, 07:18:21 am
oh NO! Im def gonna loose that poll now  :cry:   
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Jaren on November 08, 2012, 07:22:31 am
oh NO! Im def gonna loose that poll now  :cry:
lose*
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Chestaclese on November 08, 2012, 07:31:00 am
Another easy win for the mega NA alliance.  I can only relish the day when one of these carebares attacks the other to see who will strike the real first blow in strategus NA not this BS fake war practice war

against weakened foes.

Sounds like someone's a little butthurt about getting their asses kicked. You want to hug it out? Guys, lets just cancel the war and hug it all out, best hugger gets Curaw.

Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Segd on November 08, 2012, 07:32:29 am
I wish we had more sieges like this on EU :(
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on November 08, 2012, 07:36:01 am
Anyone got a link to the battle scores?
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Havoco on November 08, 2012, 07:36:24 am
KUTT would've had it if I stayed hiding instead of going for the flags.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Segd on November 08, 2012, 07:36:30 am
Anyone got a link to the battle scores?
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=1281
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Smoothrich on November 08, 2012, 08:01:18 am
smoothrich #1 NA strength build 2hand peasant killer in strat battles, hire me today to carry u to spawncamping victories


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Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Sauce on November 08, 2012, 08:28:38 am
Great siege, hope everyone had fun.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Elindor on November 08, 2012, 03:22:35 pm
Fun siege, good times all around I hope.


Another easy win for the mega NA alliance.

Thought that was Hosp + KUTT
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 08, 2012, 04:28:42 pm
Thought that was Hosp + KUTT

If you listen to the rhetoric. That alliance at founding was only the same size as VE. Hosp/Kutt are fighting over 200 people(between all the clans) with there roughly 70.(90 at most) They are outnumbered 2:1.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 08, 2012, 04:45:39 pm
If you listen to the rhetoric. That alliance at founding was only the same size as VE. Hosp/Kutt are fighting over 200 people(between all the clans) with there roughly 70.(90 at most) They are outnumbered 2:1.

WELL I GUESS TOE STEPPING POLICY FINALLY COMES TO A HEAD.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Pentecost on November 08, 2012, 05:23:56 pm
If you listen to the rhetoric. That alliance at founding was only the same size as VE. Hosp/Kutt are fighting over 200 people(between all the clans) with there roughly 70.(90 at most) They are outnumbered 2:1.

They are outnumbered 2:1 now, maybe. But whose fault is that? There was nothing necessary or inevitable about the official Hospitaller/KUTT alliance having to fight against VE, FCC, Norse Horde, Remnant, Fallen, DL, and Teutonics together, despite the fact that all of these factions are, for the most part, working independently of each other.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Malaclypse on November 08, 2012, 05:43:07 pm
Well, last night was a really unfortunate time to be wrongfully globally banned.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Turboflex on November 08, 2012, 05:53:50 pm
On paper KUTT vs FCC should have been relatively even. KUTT's laughably bad organization resulted in an instant collapse of their rotten house as soon as the door was kicked in. That weakness encouraged a pile-on from Remnants & Fallen to swoop in and pick apart the pieces.

Hospitaller on the other hand actually is organized and holding out well. After some initial setbacks due to a poorly conceived adventure in the desert, they seemed have stabilized with a solid defensive position around their core territory...
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 08, 2012, 06:24:19 pm
They are outnumbered 2:1 now, maybe. But whose fault is that? There was nothing necessary or inevitable about the official Hospitaller/KUTT alliance having to fight against VE, FCC, Norse Horde, Remnant, Fallen, DL, and Teutonics together, despite the fact that all of these factions are, for the most part, working independently of each other.

I'm not DL I'm one of 3. Plus if DL was at war, I doubt they'd be hiring me up.
Also don't confuse Military Contract(IE Merc Army) for war declarations.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 08, 2012, 06:25:11 pm
Also don't confuse Military Contract(IE Merc Army) for war declarations.
Most clans do confuse the two. *shrugs*
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: oprah_winfrey on November 08, 2012, 06:32:37 pm
Sure wish I didn't go to bed at 9:00 est last night and miss the battle :/

Well, last night was a really unfortunate time to be wrongfully globally banned.

Why are you global banned?

Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Malaclypse on November 08, 2012, 07:35:29 pm
Sure wish I didn't go to bed at 9:00 est last night and miss the battle :/

Why are you global banned?

It's revoked now, and it was only for Strategus; Meow helped me clear it up pretty fast. Something to do with the whole Pale Horsemen, follow-up scans (Rhalzo is literally my neighbor, so he was often logged on at my place either on my computer or via mobile app).
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on November 08, 2012, 09:00:48 pm
On paper KUTT vs FCC should have been relatively even. KUTT's laughably bad organization resulted in an instant collapse of their rotten house as soon as the door was kicked in. That weakness encouraged a pile-on from Remnants & Fallen to swoop in and pick apart the pieces.

Hospitaller on the other hand actually is organized and holding out well. After some initial setbacks due to a poorly conceived adventure in the desert, they seemed have stabilized with a solid defensive position around their core territory...

In regaurds to Kutt i think the thing alot of people tend to forget is that even though they were a big powerful and organized (or so people thought given their organization in seige server) clan going into this strat, they where still a new clan with no real strat experience (Having 1 village in strat 3 and fighitng 1 real battle in said village doesnt count for much). Given their lack of experience they where at a big disadvantage going up against a very experienced clan like the FCC. I dont alaways agree with the FCC, but even i can admit that their leadership has a lot more strat/political savvy than Tanken does (no offense) and so far in this strat they aren't missing a beat.

Edit: id also project the FCC to win strat 4 for NA, given that chadz seems to define winning strat more or less by which faction on EU and NA own the most fiefs once strat is over. Unless VE makes a big land grab to surpass FCC. Or if the two factions go to war, but that is about as likley to happen as Mitt romney winning the election (yes i know he already lost making it impossible).

http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/strategus-round-4-starting-sunday-1200-cet/
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: LordBerenger on November 08, 2012, 09:13:08 pm
So north winter snow area just gonna turn into a big clusterfuck with different clans holding fiefs around or will someone go Donald Trump on em?
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Emotion on November 08, 2012, 11:02:42 pm
Fun siege, good times all around I hope.


Thought that was Hosp + KUTT

If you listen to the rhetoric. That alliance at founding was only the same size as VE. Hosp/Kutt are fighting over 200 people(between all the clans) with there roughly 70.(90 at most) They are outnumbered 2:1.

They are outnumbered 2:1 now, maybe. But whose fault is that? There was nothing necessary or inevitable about the official Hospitaller/KUTT alliance having to fight against VE, FCC, Norse Horde, Remnant, Fallen, DL, and Teutonics together, despite the fact that all of these factions are, for the most part, working independently of each other.

Don't forget Astralis, Chev, Malta, and various other minor clans. Most dropped off the cliff or said fuck you Hosp.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 08, 2012, 11:49:17 pm
Don't forget Astralis, Chev, Malta, and various other minor clans. Most dropped off the cliff or said fuck you Hosp.

None of those clans are allied to Hosp. At best it's mainly just trade deals and merc agreements.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Weewum on November 09, 2012, 12:21:32 am
Bigger Hosp bandwagon please.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Tanken on November 09, 2012, 12:26:58 am
Damn. I'm really sad that this battle took place on my birthday. Oh well, 21! Woooo.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: dynamike on November 09, 2012, 12:36:20 am
Damn. I'm really sad that this battle took place on my birthday. Oh well, 21! Woooo.

How cute.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: oprah_winfrey on November 09, 2012, 12:38:28 am
How cute.

They grow up so fast.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 09, 2012, 02:15:24 am
Who the fuck is VE.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 09, 2012, 02:17:51 am
Who the fuck is VE.

VE is these Guys. (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=strategusinfofaction&id=44) Also know as Velucan Empire. It's the correct term for that MEGA alliance.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: bruttus on November 09, 2012, 12:48:10 pm
Who the fuck is VE.
is the Velucan Empire
is an alliance from 3 difrent clans HoC, TKOV and MB
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Lordark on November 09, 2012, 10:52:23 pm
Who the fuck is VE.

Let them live in their own world with Chestecleese where they can talk all the shit they want and think they are honorably winning in a fair fight..


Reality being douchebags beating up on a team that is already down and surrounded being pummeled. GF? Hardly.

 

Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Mae. on November 09, 2012, 10:59:15 pm
can we hug this out already?
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Tanken on November 09, 2012, 11:13:58 pm
My hugs always involve excessive groping.


Curaw is ready to be sieged, hurry the fuck up and do it. I need to finish this last chapter of my book, "How to get shit on by everyone in Strategus while wearing Purple."
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Canary on November 09, 2012, 11:18:50 pm
Let them live in their own world with Chestecleese where they can talk all the shit they want and think they are honorably winning in a fair fight..


Reality being douchebags beating up on a team that is already down and surrounded being pummeled. GF? Hardly.

So once more does the shade of the crockery with which the maddened crusaders stew their own become a deeper shade. The blackness in their souls darkens as they accuse their enemies of the same emptiness they feel in the pits of their hearts.

We all take our turn at the sword's end.




There is a reason your leadership doesn't "do the forums", Lordark. It is because they are unable to coherently maintain reason in the face of detractors. You should probably follow them and post less yourself, because now you're just being hypocritical.



Curaw is ready to be sieged, hurry the fuck up and do it. I need to finish this last chapter of my book, "How to get shit on by everyone in Strategus while wearing Purple."

This hasn't been a good strat for purple. Even the EU side's Union purple is entirely gone from the map from what I can tell.

On the other hand, various light blue shades have been performing very well, on NA.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Elindor on November 09, 2012, 11:29:47 pm
I am sympathetic Tanken....

But the way I saw it is this :
Rather large, threatening clan which much of population may or may not dislike joins strat and makes big claims and then joins another rather large threatening strat clan which is known for dominating strat with superior numbers and organization (among other things apparently...im talking about Hosp of course)....

....result?  Everyone teams up against them.
Not totally a surprise there.

Not my personal opinions per say, just how I imagine the crpg community saw things and why they acted the way they did in response.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Tanken on November 09, 2012, 11:31:36 pm
This hasn't been a good strat for purple. Even the EU side's Union purple is entirely gone from the map from what I can tell.

On the other hand, various light blue shades have been performing very well, on NA.

Perhaps if I change my color to yellow, or a blue color Curaw may go unnoticed as our last standing fief. Hmmmm....

Added:
Response to Elindor's post.


Yeah, we always knew at the beginning of this Strat Hospitaller was going to have a huge target on them because most all of the clans in NA didn't like them. We were one of them, but we also set out this Strat to set aside grudges and friendships we had created last strat and start entirely new, basically as a new entity. So, we sided with Hospitallers, knowing their reputation would carry and others would still glare at them.

Sure, there were a few things that increased the size of the crosshair on Hospitallers, which of course put us in the sights as well--but what many preached of not wanting to do with power blocks this game, has already been done. Can't stop it any longer, just can hope that you go down with some honor in the end and then sit back and wait for everyone to see how instead of prolonging wars and having conflict, they seek to end it immediately, and when it's done, strat will be dull.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Sauce on November 09, 2012, 11:36:12 pm

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Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Mae. on November 09, 2012, 11:36:23 pm
everyone loves an adorable underdog.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Chestaclese on November 10, 2012, 12:31:34 am
Chesty, how dare you belittle these noble white bastions of honor in the internet swords & horses game. Cornering an enemy in a dark alley and pummeling them with your studded battle-cock whilst surrounded by a team of your best friends and troll buds is no reason to forget your manners;

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Fuck bitches, take candy.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Lordark on November 10, 2012, 02:37:51 am
I will be boastful when im winning, down troden when Im losing, angry when Im betrayed, honest always. I call them how I see them.  Upvotes and downvotes be damned Ill post

for what I think is best for strategia and my clan and trolls damned!
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: dynamike on November 10, 2012, 03:12:21 am
Let them live in their own world with Chestecleese where they can talk all the shit they want and think they are honorably winning in a fair fight..

Ok serious question: can we give him to you? He would fit in REALLY nicely!
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Emotion on November 10, 2012, 02:37:17 pm
Superpower gets crushed by anti-superpower superpower. Then everyone fights cuz we hurt each others feelings.  :?
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Keshian on November 10, 2012, 03:15:50 pm

Yeah, we always knew at the beginning of this Strat Hospitaller was going to have a huge target on them because most all of the clans in NA didn't like them. We were one of them, but we also set out this Strat to set aside grudges and friendships we had created last strat and start entirely new, basically as a new entity. So, we sided with Hospitallers, knowing their reputation would carry and others would still glare at them.

Sure, there were a few things that increased the size of the crosshair on Hospitallers, which of course put us in the sights as well--but what many preached of not wanting to do with power blocks this game, has already been done.

Clarify two things - you were the main one trying to get a powerbloc against hospitallers - you desperately wanted an alliance with either FCC or hospitallers, preferably us but we absolutely said no we don't want UIF in NA, so you got Hospergllers by default not ebcause of some noble idea of fighting for Hospergllers because clans might dislike them - they were the most powerful faction with most fiefs most troops and most incoming gold thanks to Eu at the beginning of this strategus - not some fake underdog.

Second, we are not allies with any of the people attacking hospitallers or KUTT.  We made a merc agreement with Remnant and you caused Teutons to go against you rather than stay with you.  Its not some massive alliance taking you down - FCC took over half your fiefs and teleported many of your players and took most of your caravans before anyone else ever declared war on you. We gave your fiefs away to others.  We even tried to reach a peace after Fallen decided to attack you - which, since they got attacked right afterwards by a true allliance and several other factions (they have a right to say what you are trying to say about KUTT) consisted of attacking 1-2 of your guys in their territory. 

You absolutely refused giving up one city even though this peace would have benefitted your sub-clan allies who had neither of the cities.  You chose to be shit on - you turned teutons against you, you refused peace with the faction kicking your butt, and then your supposed ally Hosperggler has done nothing but merc for you despite having over 10,000 troops, many of which are in fiefs that are not even being attacked.  Most of the factions attacking you are acting independently - not some mega-alliance like Hospergllers+KUTT+Malat+Chevalieres+Teutons+Swiss+Astralis+etc. was at the beginning.  Its not all these independent factions' fault your alliance essentially crumbled in the face of adversity and that you antagonized multiple factions ina  short period of time.


P.S. Stop pretending to be some noble martyr - it really doesn't fit the situation and is incredibly false based on what actually transpired.  You have been pushing for a mega-alliance since he beginning and you got one - it just didn't pay out as you expected because of bad diplomacy.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 10, 2012, 05:21:28 pm
Honor to KUTT for for falling with grace. Die well warriors, perhaps we will do battle once more for glory in another life - as brothers. May your light shine forevermore in the battles that are to come. Seyla

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Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Elindor on November 10, 2012, 05:41:54 pm
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Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Emotion on November 10, 2012, 05:43:13 pm
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Well, to be completely honest. This is the truth spelled out.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Mae. on November 10, 2012, 06:00:34 pm
SHIT JUST GOT REAL!  :shock:
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: BaleOhay on November 10, 2012, 07:26:26 pm
Kesh spelled it out pretty well. I was leading a faction within the FCC to offer peace to Kutt. I could have pushed it thru I believe had the Kutt diplomat said they were interested. Instead I was told no thanks. Let me lay out the offer and see what the rest of the factions think... Was FCC asking to much?

Was talking to tugboat about a peace deal. At this point in the war
FCC held from Kutt
Rebache
Sumbuja
Ulburban
With attacks pending on 2-3 of their traders, Karindi and Slezkh in which we had very favorable odds. (ended up winning all the fights)

Kutt still held (we had many armies in the area easy visable and most of their traders were in EU for a free vacation)
Curaw
Reyvadin
Ismerala
Selzkh Castle
Yruma Castle
Slezkh (under seige for later that night)
Karindi (under siege for later that night)
Tismarr and
bhulaban

Option 1
The offer went roughly like this.
We get Curaw and ismerala (the troops and equipment from both stay with Kutt)
If we win Slez and Karindi (pretty much a given) We return them to Kutt
Kutt retains
Reyvadin
Slezkh Castle
Yruma Castle
Karindi
Tismarr and
Bhulaban
I think Ulburban was offered as well.. this was before Dracul had taken it over.

Conditions
Cut ties and trade with Hosp
Open equal trade with FCC (no alliance or vasselege, they stay their own clan and leadership)
We give a set number of troops and gold to equip them so that Kutt was not left without a fighitng strength army to attack or defend however they wish
We get safe passage (protection) for army and traders within kutt lands.

Option 2
Refuse and we do everything we can to take it all.

I was told no thanks. We were asking to much to even consider getting one of the cities. The counter offer was we can keep the fiefs we already held... which is an odd offer trying to pay us in currency we already have in our pocket. The war was clearly over at this point. I would have enjoyed clearly winning a war and showing that we were not a bunch of asses by letting peace happen. Would have gained just as much respect for not looking like a bunch of greedy dicks and taking it all. They choose option 2. So operation dickgrab was placed into effect. Curaw is the last bastion and kutt has been getting piled on... but we offered a hand up before we used the hand for a pimp slap.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Keshian on November 10, 2012, 07:35:03 pm


 but we offered a hand up before we used the hand for a pimp slap.

I love you man!! lol.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Tanken on November 10, 2012, 08:14:13 pm
Once again, Kesh thinks he has everything right, and just wants to belittle me. Have some class Kesh.

There were two options on the table, you were aware of both. We either allied with you guys, or we allied with Hospitaller. That's not a Powerblock considering your clan has more players than ours. Whether you want to call it a non-alliance, you guys bought out our Vassals for whatever reason as if you weren't able to finish the job yourself.

Not to mention you guys reinforced them yesterday and have given them fiefs and armies already. That sounds pretty close to an alliance.

FCC + Teutonics + Fallen + Dracul + Remnants vs. Us.

Touche guys.

And now a battle at 1:44 am. Lol. Geeze. Couldn't make our last stand a little more accessible for our players could you?


Also: In response to BaleOhay, why were none of these exact negotiations ever presented to me? Tugboat told me we had to give up a shit load more fiefs than what you're spelling out right there.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Emotion on November 10, 2012, 09:06:57 pm
There were two options on the table, you were aware of both. We either allied with you guys, or we allied with Hospitaller. That's not a Powerblock considering your clan has more players than ours. Whether you want to call it a non-alliance, you guys bought out our Vassals for whatever reason as if you weren't able to finish the job yourself.

Not to mention you guys reinforced them yesterday and have given them fiefs and armies already. That sounds pretty close to an alliance.

FCC + Teutonics + Fallen + Dracul + Remnants vs. Us.

Touche guys.

And now a battle at 1:44 am. Lol. Geeze. Couldn't make our last stand a little more accessible for our players could you?


Also: In response to BaleOhay, why were none of these exact negotiations ever presented to me? Tugboat told me we had to give up a shit load more fiefs than what you're spelling out right there.

That's cuz Tugboat is half Mongoloid and half boat.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Miracle on November 10, 2012, 09:10:34 pm
Also, I'm not quite sure you can call Remnant and FCC an alliance.  We are just more like lovers.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Emotion on November 10, 2012, 09:13:40 pm
Also, I'm not quite sure you can call Remnant and FCC an alliance.  We are just more like lovers.

Sex slaves for each other.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 10, 2012, 09:38:38 pm
Also, I'm not quite sure you can call Remnant and FCC an alliance.  We are just more like lovers.
Sex slaves for each other.

We're taking about the relationship between Remnants and the FCC, not Noodles and Miracle.

Just thought I'd clarify since you two seem confused about who we're talking about.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Elindor on November 10, 2012, 09:46:11 pm
Remnant is just a bunch of nerdy homos in ass-less chaps high fiving each other.

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Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: BaleOhay on November 10, 2012, 10:23:57 pm
Pretty sure people know I do not flame or toss around half truths.

It was not a full peace deal. I told tug those terms I listed. I also told him it would take some work for me to get it agreed on by the FCc leaders. I then asked should i even bother. He said if a city is on the table then i should not waste my time.

Nothing else to say. Tug was your approved diplomat. I spoke with him. We wanted Curaw and ismerala. We already held the other fiefs on our side of the river and wanted to keep most. You could have kept Rev the 2 castles and 5 fiefs. It was turned down. Option two was for us to try and eat all the cake. You have 1 piece left but kesh sure does love his cake.

Have to say i do not know why you down voted the peace post tank. I wrote the truth. I did not bad mouth or insult anyone in it. If you did not hear about tug and my talk you can not fault me for that.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Chestaclese on November 10, 2012, 10:41:09 pm
Your mongoloid diplomat fucked up. Get that nerd a walkie talkie or something.

Fixed.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: dynamike on November 10, 2012, 11:19:49 pm
Remnant is just a bunch of nerdy homos in ass-less chaps high fiving each other.

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That... is a scary close to the truth description  :shock:
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Ostulor on November 10, 2012, 11:20:18 pm
Not really sure why KUTT's getting so much flak, without them I wouldn't have anything to read while I poop and all I'd be doing is running trade runs pretending that the virtual gold is worth something.

iluKUTT.
Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Mae. on November 11, 2012, 06:31:40 pm
Remnant is just a bunch of nerdy homos in ass-less chaps high fiving each other.

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and one big strong girl over looking all the exciting escapades ;D
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Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: LordBerenger on November 11, 2012, 07:28:36 pm
and one big strong girl over looking all the exciting escapades ;D
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Title: Re: The Siege of Yruma Castle
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 12, 2012, 01:00:34 am
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