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Title: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: brockssn on November 05, 2012, 03:53:58 pm
Can everyone place the changes they have discovered here so we can form some kind of update log for the latest patch since the devs have failed us with the notes? I will compile them into the first post. Thanks to everyone who is contributing.

Bugs
Added Player Ghosting which allows players to pass through other players during combat. (Brock)

Modifications
Overhand swings seem to miss more, new hit boxes or bugged hitboxes? (Brock)
Archery WPF is now calculated by Athletics instead of PD (Brock)
Studded Warclub lost its unbalanced tag  (Peasant Woman)

::Light Lance:::: -1p on thrust

::Lance:::: -1p on thrust

Zero_Tolerance:
::Rus Bow::
- Damage increased to 18c (up from 16)
- Accuracy decreased to 99 (down from 100)
- Speed rating decreased to 56 (down from 58)

::Bow::
- Damage increased to 20c (up from 18)

::Nomad Bow::
- Weight decreased to 1 (down from 1.2)
- Damage increased to 21c (up from 20)

::Tatar bow::
- Weight decreased to 1 (down from 1.2)

::Horn Bow::
- Weight decreased to 1 (down from 1.2)
- Speed rating (draw speed) decreased to 60 (down from 61)


::Long bow::
- Weight decreased to 1.5 (down from 1.7)
- Accuracy increased to 103 (up from 101)
~~

Changes to heirloom bows:
::Missile speed ::
x1 no change
x2 no change
x3 reduced to +2 (down from +3)

::Damage::
x1 no change
x2 reduced to +1 (down from +2)
x3 reduced to +2 (down from +3)

::Accuracy::
x1 no change
x2 reduced from +1 to +0 (no bonus)
x3 reduced to +1 (down from +2)
~~

Arrow Length changes
::Regular arrows::
- Decreased to 88  (down from 95)

::Barbed::
- Decreased to 90 (down from 95)

::Tatar::
- Decreased to 89 (down from 95)

::Bodkin::
- Increased to 93 (up from 91)

::Side Sword:: +1 cut damage
::Fauchard:: heirloom bonuses were reduced; a +3 Fauchard is now a Masterwork Fauchard rather than an Elder's Fauchard. Where it once got 4 additional damage on its swing and 3 additional damage on its thrust, it now gives 3 additional damage on its swing and 2 additional damage on its thrust.
::Great Maul:: (and possibly Maul and Mallet as well) heirloom bonuses were reduced. Where a +3 Great Maul once got 4 additional blunt damage on its swing, it now only gets 3 additional blunt damage.

most of the 2h axes +3 dmg (Persian Battle Axe now has highest dmg among all melee weapons)
::Longsword:: +1 speed +1 cut dmg

::Miaodao:: +1 speed, +2 dmg

::Katana:: +1 cut +2 pierce

::Dadao:: +2 speed

::Danish/German GS:: +1 pierce and cut dmg, -2 speed

::heavy great sword:: -1 speed, +2 thrust, +1 swing +1 kg weight (Falka)  (Tore)

Made high PD archery more viable (Tore)

2ndary modes buffed (need specifics) (Kulin_Ban)

Horses *seem* to react more sluggishly, less turning radius, lower speed, more reactive to rain (Dexxta)

Heavy lance nerfed to 23p down from 26p

Broad short sword +1 cut

Additions:
New Polearms (Brock)
New Helms (Brock)
Chinese head/body/leg armor added. (Peasant Woman)
Title: Re: **Unofficial Patch Notes**
Post by: 3 Tears on November 05, 2012, 03:56:22 pm
I was to take a picture like "You must be new here" but then i catch myself on mind that i'm too lazy to search that picture, sorry
Title: Re: **Unofficial Patch Notes**
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on November 05, 2012, 03:56:24 pm
Patch notes:

- more rage
Title: Re: **Unofficial Patch Notes**
Post by: LordBerenger on November 05, 2012, 03:57:47 pm
Patch notes:


- Killed the game

- Nerfed everything to the ground

- Went full retard
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Moncho on November 05, 2012, 04:08:29 pm
- Added n new bugs for some unknown n bigger than 0
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Peasant_Woman on November 05, 2012, 04:27:14 pm
Quote from: brockssn on November 05, 2012, 03:53:58 pm
Bugs:
Added Player Ghosting which allows players to pass through other players during combat.

Afaik this has always been possible, run into another player for longer than 3 seconds and the collision detection gives up and lets you ghost through them.

Two changes I'm aware of;

Chinese head/body/leg armor added.
Studded Warclub lost its unbalanced tag.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 05, 2012, 04:29:45 pm
- Bow weight increased decreased
- Bow accuracy decreased modified slightly for the top two bows (Rus bow reduced to 99, long bow increased to 103)
- Bow damage increased
- Arrow lengths reduced (exception bodkins)
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Tore on November 05, 2012, 04:32:12 pm
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: slimpyman on November 05, 2012, 04:40:30 pm
I believe the patch was rough on archers.  If they want to run, and shoot, thats fine.   On the whole, good new polearms, and i actually like the new hit boxes.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Falka on November 05, 2012, 04:43:06 pm
- buff for 2h axes (Persian Battle Axe now has highest dmg among all melee weapons) and short/medium swords, especially Miaodao, Longsword, Heavy Bastard Sword
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: OpenPalm on November 05, 2012, 04:47:04 pm
My archery characters seem to be very similar if not the same as what they were pre-athletics nerf patch. 

???

Anybody else?

CMP I SUMMON YOU

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Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Kafein on November 05, 2012, 04:54:57 pm
Player ghosting has been on the increase ever since cRPG started being patched. I'm not even joking.
Title: Re: **Unofficial Patch Notes**
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 05, 2012, 05:01:08 pm
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Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: the real god emperor on November 05, 2012, 05:23:07 pm
Arrow lengths are decreased.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 05, 2012, 05:24:17 pm
- Horses *seem* to react more sluggishly, less turning radius, lower speed, more reactive to rain.
- Heavy lance nerfed to 23p down from 26p
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Rhekimos on November 05, 2012, 05:39:42 pm
Quote from: Dexxtaa on November 05, 2012, 05:24:17 pm
- Horses *seem* to react more sluggishly, less turning radius, lower speed, more reactive to rain.
- Heavy lance nerfed to 23p down from 28p

Heavy lance was 26p before the patch.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 05, 2012, 05:43:22 pm
Quote from: Contra on November 05, 2012, 05:39:42 pm
Heavy lance was 26p before the patch.

fix'd
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: cmp on November 05, 2012, 05:57:05 pm
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Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: matt2507 on November 05, 2012, 05:58:13 pm
I also believe that they have increased the frequency of repair of horses, but I'm not sure if anyone can confirm ?
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Falka on November 05, 2012, 05:59:44 pm
Quote
(need specifics)
Heavy Bastard Sword +2 speed
Longsword +1 speed +1 cut dmg
Miaodao +1 speed, +2 dmg
Dadao +2 speed
most of the axes +3 dmg
Danish/German GS +1 pierce and cut dmg, -2 speed
huge buff for Heavy Great Sword, dunno what they did exactly but it was useless piece of shit and now it is decent weapon
Quote
heavy great sword +1 speed, +2 thrust, +1 swing +0.5 kg weight
Katana got +1 cut and pierce dmg? I'm not sure.
Quote
Katana +2 cut and pierce dmg
Quote from: cmpxchg8b on November 05, 2012, 05:57:05 pm
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lulz, lazy devs  :P
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: PanPan on November 05, 2012, 06:10:30 pm
I think they changed Bow looms.

Before they got +3 Pierce on MW now they get +2.

Edit: I think the Katana got +2 Pierce and +1 Cut.

Cus Prepatch my MW Katana had 40 c now 41c.

Anyway the ranks of the 2hers got changed I think.

Before they got each rank 1 more cut damage now they got none from +1 to +2 but get +2 c from +2 to +3...
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Falka on November 05, 2012, 06:29:54 pm
Quote from: Falka on November 05, 2012, 05:59:44 pm
heavy great sword +1 speed, +2 thrust, +1 swing +0.5 kg weight
actually -1 speed, +2 thrust, +1 swing +1 kg weight

Quote from: PanPan on November 05, 2012, 06:10:30 pm
Edit: I think the Katana got +2 Pierce and +1 Cut.

Cus Prepatch my MW Katana had 40 c now 41c.
Ye, maybe you're right.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Dexxtaa on November 05, 2012, 06:38:13 pm
Updated information regarding the bows. I mistook the values and read the backwards. bow weight is DECREASED. Changed my original posts to reflect the changes.

Rus Bow:  
- Damage increased to 18c (up from 16)

Bow:   
- Damage increased to 20c (up from 18)

Nomad Bow :
- Weight decreased to 1 (down from 1.2)
- Damage increased to 21c (up from 20)

Tatar bow:
- Weight decreased to 1 (down from 1.2)

Horn Bow:
- Weight decreased to 1 (down from 1.2)
- Speed rating (draw speed) decreased to 60 (down from 61)

Yumi:
- No changes

Rus bow:
- Accuracy decreased to 99 (down from 100)
- Speed rating decreased to 56 (down from 58)

Long bow:
- Weight decreased to 1.5 (down from 1.7)
- Accuracy increased to 103 (up from 101)
~~

Changes to heirloom bows:
::Missile speed ::
x1 no change
x2 no change
x3 reduced to +2 (down from +3)

::Damage::
x1 no change
x2 reduced to +1 (down from +2)
x3 reduced to +2 (down from +3)

::Accuracy::
x1 no change
x2 reduced from +1 to +0 (no bonus)
x3 reduced to +1 (down from +2)
~~

Arrow Length changes
::Regular arrows::
- Decreased to 88  (down from 95)

::Barbed::
- Decreased to 90 (down from 95)

::Tatar::
- Decreased to 89 (down from 95)

::Bodkin::
- Increased to 93 (up from 91)


~Source and credit to zero_Tolerance : http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-discussion/changes-for-bows-arrows-and-loom-system-for-bows/
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: cxalc on November 05, 2012, 07:37:28 pm
Rus Bow:
- Damage increased to 18c (up from 16)

r u sure it's rusbow ?

and now pure str 13PD archers seem much more accurate with 110wpf than before, does anyone notice that?
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 05, 2012, 07:40:57 pm
Also, Katana got -1 speed nerf, but the stab and swing damage got increased.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on November 05, 2012, 09:15:24 pm
1h unchanged from it's poor state. compared to 2h or pole
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Pollux on November 05, 2012, 09:21:30 pm
I can confirm on two occasions my overhand swing went through the player without doing damage.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Blackbow on November 06, 2012, 02:35:00 am
Changes to heirloom bows:
::Missile speed ::
x1 no change
x2 no change
x3 reduced to +2 (down from +3)

yeah sure deacrease the missile speed will give more ghost arrows
fucking stupid patch ...

GIVE US A MODA FUKING FREE RESPEC !!!!
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on November 06, 2012, 10:00:31 am
The weight of Xbows has been increased, dont know by how much exactly.

Also bolts & steel bolts have more weight now. I guess to decrease the amount of kiting arbalesters  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Pentecost on November 06, 2012, 10:30:46 am
Things I noticed:
-Side Sword gained +1 cutting damage
-Fauchard heirloom bonuses were reduced; a +3 Fauchard is now a Masterwork Fauchard rather than an Elder's Fauchard. Where it once got 4 additional damage on its swing and 3 additional damage on its thrust, it now gives 3 additional damage on its swing and 2 additional damage on its thrust.
-Great Maul (and possibly Maul and Mallet as well) heirloom bonuses were reduced. Where a +3 Great Maul once got 4 additional blunt damage on its swing, it now only gets 3 additional blunt damage.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Freeon1z on November 06, 2012, 02:43:15 pm
That's what I think about the patch!
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Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Kafein on November 06, 2012, 04:36:43 pm
Quote from: Freeon1z on November 06, 2012, 02:43:15 pm
That's what I think about the patch!
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They balanced that now, arrows are shorter.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: dodnet on November 06, 2012, 05:06:53 pm
Light Lance -1p on thrust
Lance -1p on thrust


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More pics! This one is great!
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Turboflex on November 06, 2012, 05:18:15 pm
Broad short sword +1 cut
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Keshian on November 06, 2012, 06:18:19 pm
You forgot the astards sword and heavy bastard sword both gained 2 speed.  Also, the change in the length of the arrows or something else in the last patch has messed up the hitboxes on arrows (something like this happened back when they first implemented WSE) and you can shoot through people's chest and not have it actually connect.  Been happening pretty regularly to a number of archers I know and I have noticed it as well.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on November 06, 2012, 06:54:58 pm
Quote from: Kafein on November 06, 2012, 04:36:43 pm
They balanced that now, arrows are shorter.
Exactly what does arrow length do?
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Blackbow on November 06, 2012, 07:18:17 pm
Quote from: Froto_the_Loc on November 06, 2012, 06:54:58 pm
Exactly what does arrow length do?
absolutely nothing this patch is a joke

Quote from: Keshian on November 06, 2012, 06:18:19 pm
...  Also, the change in the length of the arrows or something else in the last patch has messed up the hitboxes on arrows (something like this happened back when they first implemented WSE) and you can shoot through people's chest and not have it actually connect.  Been happening pretty regularly to a number of archers I know and I have noticed it as well.
imo it's more a problem from decreasing the missile speed than lengh

Quote from: Kafein on November 06, 2012, 04:36:43 pm
They balanced that now, arrows are shorter.
lol kafein cmon how shorter arrows can balanced weight of arrows lol ?
let me remember you now one quiver of tatar = 8 instead of 3.5
so now arrows are shorter but have more weight wow nice logic ...
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Miley on November 06, 2012, 07:23:17 pm
I'm pretty sure War Bow's damage at masterwork was the same as the Long Bow's, but now it's 1 less than that... so I think you got something wrong.

Nevermind, I just saw the loom changes.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 06, 2012, 08:46:47 pm
I just want to test this
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Tibe on November 06, 2012, 08:56:43 pm
Archers still sometimes kill my Greatswordhero. More nerfing please, clearly still not enough yet. :lol:
I quess the patch explains why most of the archeryheroes are nolonger exsistent. I kinda miss the old days now.

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Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: AgentQ on November 06, 2012, 09:22:42 pm
more nerfs to cav!
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Keshian on November 06, 2012, 09:26:28 pm
Also quivers of arrows weigh as much as a great maul now (makes total sense), so when you fight in strategus with 3 quivers of arrows you cant even move -its like you are in full plate.  Yeah lets remove skill entirely by not even allowing you to dodge enemy ranged or enemy cavalry and just stand and shoot.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: XyNox on November 06, 2012, 10:19:31 pm
After a few days of stf testing, battle and siege I've yet to discover what's the point of archery now ?

Archers are now the slowest moving units on the battlefield. Considering that the hybrid/melee abilities of archers didn't get buffed yet again they are also the least hard hitting units on the battlefield ( in melee ). On top of that they are also the most fragile ones and wpf curves still dont allow archers to put any wpf into a category other than archery.

Dodging a horse or enemy ranged is now close to impossible. Shielders now autokill archers by moving in close with a 100% success possibility due to unpenetrable energy shields and then kill them with a 99% win possibility due to vastly superiour damage, attackspeed, armor, health, movement speed and most of the cases also weaponreach.

If thats not enough, loomed archers got nerfed in terms of damage, missile speed and missile drop.

The only thing I can imagine that archers are useful for now is camping somewhere as far away from the action as possible and spam arrows across the whole map while hoping not to hit any teammates. Needless to say that most spots that give an advantage for ranged have been nerfed balanced out of the maps some patches earlier.


Is this the devs way to say "respec to HA now" ?
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Peasant_Woman on November 07, 2012, 12:08:00 am
If its that bad, lower arrow weight slightly, give archers access to a couple of decent speed and length short swords (0 slot).

Doing this will enable archers to dodge cavalry again, though it will probably be a challenge. Archers will be able to fight capably in melee but with lower damage (unless forgoing athletics for powerstrike, but then they'll be slow again). Running from a fight will be less tempting than just trying to fight the attackers off and looking for help.

This sounds a lot more like my image of a medieval archer than 'walking semi-auto laser scope ballistas' like before, and 'helpless glass cannons' like now.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Adamar on November 07, 2012, 01:33:52 am
Slugish movement nerfed our performance in short range. Im out there placing my ass on the line with my mace, so that melee noobs who barely know how to block dont have to make much of an effort to kill me. Then the insults or the random kick polling of archers, since the devs keep implying we aren't worth respecting as players.
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Blackbow on November 07, 2012, 02:03:32 am
Quote from: cmpxchg8b on November 05, 2012, 05:57:05 pm
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 it's funny when the patch note is made by comunity and not by devs ...
crpg is the only mod i know who work like that...
Title: Re: **Unofficial Patch Notes**
Post by: Tore on November 07, 2012, 07:44:47 pm
Quote from: 3 Tears on November 05, 2012, 03:56:22 pm
I was to take a picture like "You must be new here" but then i catch myself on mind that i'm too lazy to search that picture, sorry

lol downvote cuz we can
Title: Re: **Unofficial 2.9.0 Patch Notes**
Post by: Kalp on November 08, 2012, 08:38:22 am
Is it me or something has changed in hitbox detection ? I played as shielder befor patch and compared to the current situation I feel a big difference. It is not normal that I or someone else is killed before animation of swing reach the body. This is weird. Also there is more spammers than before.

At this moment game is unplayable for me  :cry: