Personally I would prefer them to just become cheaper.yeah, price is nothing but a joke in crpg, sadly.
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The problem is not the weakness of the spears, but the OPness of the high tier polearms.That would imply that the weaker spears are in a good spot, which I don't really think anyone would agree with. Use a war spear against a guy in plate armor, regardless of his weapon, you're at a significant disadvantage.
The problem is not the weakness of the spears, but the OPness of the high tier polearms.The absolute last thing I think when I take a longsword/SoW against a warspear user (of the very few who stubbornly keep using them) is 'this is a balanced fight'. What I actually think is 'I'm going to castor/chamber/range game every single time I see a sideswing, because I lose almost no health if I mess up or he holds'.
Saul: Is it only that they're weak for 1v1 now or that they're weak in general? I own a War Spear myself, and while, as you said, I find myself at a disadvantage whenever I try fighting someone that has a greatsword with it, I figured that was more due to the fact that I am still not very good with it at the moment. On the other hand, I've seen Malaclypse absolutely manhandle people with a ragged outfit and Red Tassel Spear before. I'm sure you've seen it too. Does he count as one of the diehard fans you were talking about?A good player will beat a worse player even if he has a worse weapon.
Saul: Is it only that they're weak for 1v1 now or that they're weak in general? I own a War Spear myself, and while, as you said, I find myself at a disadvantage whenever I try fighting someone that has a greatsword with it, I figured that was more due to the fact that I am still not very good with it at the moment. On the other hand, I've seen Malaclypse absolutely manhandle people with a ragged outfit and Red Tassel Spear before. I'm sure you've seen it too. Does he count as one of the diehard fans you were talking about?That's less a matter of the red tassel being good, and more just a matter of Mala being good. He presumably uses it because he plays hoplite most of the time; if not for that, he would be far better served by a poleaxe, glaive, GLA, or bec. Even an iron staff would likely be a better choice.
That would imply that the weaker spears are in a good spot, which I don't really think anyone would agree with. Use a war spear against a guy in plate armor, regardless of his weapon, you're at a significant disadvantage.i used a warspear in the chaos battle against the plated people and got a 2kd!!!!!! just buff my babys peirce so i can 2 hit even higher armoured people :twisted:
That's less a matter of the red tassel being good, and more just a matter of Mala being good. He presumably uses it because he plays hoplite most of the time; if not for that, he would be far better served by a poleaxe, glaive, GLA, or bec. Even an iron staff would likely be a better choice.the warspear is a great weapon with an agi build you can spam and do tons of damage with the stabs with speed bonuses and kite people and skey etc people complain about me alot and its not becuase im an amazing player its becuase how good an agi warspear build is
The absolute last thing I think when I take a longsword/SoW against a warspear user (of the very few who stubbornly keep using them) is 'this is a balanced fight'. What I actually think is 'I'm going to castor/chamber/range game every single time I see a sideswing, because I lose almost no health if I mess up or he holds'.Dunno if you have noticed, but the spears have 150 reach. The speed/length combo of these weapons still makes them extremely potent weapons. War spear is an amazing polearm to duel with, play that range game, unless you chamber the stab all the time I'll be able to swing at you.
Why are people suddenly necroing a year old thread?Lol didnt see.
Why are people suddenly necroing a year old thread?
Those war spear sideswings used by an agility player render 1, maybe 2 frames before they connect. It won't hurt much, but it usually won't glance.
Useable with shield+useable on horseback+rears horses+good stab damage+fast sideswings that don't glance=versatile weapon that's good in most situations.
Sure, dueling against a Longsword user you'll be at a disadvantage, but everyone is at a disadvantage dueling a Longsword user, so join the party. Of course the devs saw this and decided the solution was to buff the Longsword, so good luck getting them to improve spears or anything else.
It's swing damage is pretty weak. My +3 WarSpear only does 22 blunt, but it can do the job. I liked Jarlek's suggestion on making it cheaper - but, it's swing could use a buff. Maybe, 1-3 more damage points.