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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => Closed Requests => Topic started by: Spook Island on August 30, 2012, 07:20:19 am

Title: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Spook Island on August 30, 2012, 07:20:19 am
So I log into the forum and have this little jewel waiting for me in my inbox

Quote from: Galgorth on August 30, 2012, 01:02:31 am
Pack your bags and get out. You're done in this game kid.

:) :D
This from a guy who was banned the other day for throwing a TK tantrum against me.


Log into the server and find out I'm banned.
Check the forum for a ban thread and only see an unban thread; no Ban request in sight.

Doesn't take a genius to figure out this was a bullshit ban, not that I'm not familiar with such things.  I think my last ban was about half a year ago when I called somebody Canadian and got banned for it.  So yeah, I'm pretty used to bullshit bans by now. 

If I had to guess, I'd say there was some dirty politicking involved with some of the admins.  Within the last week, I've more or less had to show cases of incompetence, immaturity, and even lying in the case of NA Admins Hospitaller_Spaniard and Smoothrich.  Less than a week later, I'm mysteriously banned.  Coincidence?  Not likely.

I'm sure some trumped up charges involving "smack talking" were used since nothing else could be used against me.  Frankly, I don't intentionally TK or TW, I don't use racism, don't leech, I don't grief or open gates, etc...

Low and behold I am one of the few several hundred CRPG players who has talked smack talk to get in the heads of enemy players.  The only reason I get in trouble for it compared to others is because well I can back it up, and that's what really gets to people.  Have I ever complained or tried to turn someone in for smack talking?  No.  Frankly, I can let my playing do the talking when the time for words is irrelevant.
I'm smart enough to realize there is a mute function in case I don't want to listen to anyone, and I do use it from time to time.  That's what its there for.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Muki on August 30, 2012, 07:37:52 am
Quote from: Canary on August 29, 2012, 10:57:18 pm
Well, I just went through 1135 lines of SpookPalace only to find out I'd been looking at the wrong server's logs. What I found there, though, was not pleasing.

Spook Island, you are hereby banned indefinitely for consistent chat abuse. Blatant and offensive homophobia, direct insults, repetitious spamming, excessive offensive language. It was pretty bad.

You may post an unban request when you feel like it, but as this is your third ban for chat abuse and your eighth ban overall, things are not looking too bright for you.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Bobthehero on August 30, 2012, 07:59:22 am
And you called my a *insult* Canadian *more insults*
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Canary on August 30, 2012, 08:45:01 am
Quote from: Spook Island on August 30, 2012, 07:20:19 am
Doesn't take a genius to figure out this was a bullshit ban, not that I'm not familiar with such things.  I think my last ban was about half a year ago when I called somebody Canadian and got banned for it.  So yeah, I'm pretty used to bullshit bans by now. 

Three months ago for poll abuse, another in the same month for chat abuse.

Quote from: Spook Island on August 30, 2012, 07:20:19 am
If I had to guess, I'd say there was some dirty politicking involved with some of the admins.  Within the last week, I've more or less had to show cases of incompetence, immaturity, and even lying in the case of NA Admins Hospitaller_Spaniard and Smoothrich.  Less than a week later, I'm mysteriously banned.  Coincidence?  Not likely.

Oh, the sanctimoniousness.

Quote from: Spook Island on August 30, 2012, 07:20:19 am
I'm sure some trumped up charges involving "smack talking" were used since nothing else could be used against me.  Frankly, I don't intentionally TK or TW, I don't use racism, don't leech, I don't grief or open gates, etc...

Low and behold I am one of the few several hundred CRPG players who has talked smack talk to get in the heads of enemy players.  The only reason I get in trouble for it compared to others is because well I can back it up, and that's what really gets to people.  Have I ever complained or tried to turn someone in for smack talking?  No.  Frankly, I can let my playing do the talking when the time for words is irrelevant.
I'm smart enough to realize there is a mute function in case I don't want to listen to anyone, and I do use it from time to time.  That's what its there for.

There are rules in place to prevent continuous harassment and egregiously offensive insults from being a constant part of the experience playing this mod. The reason you get in trouble for it is because you will not stop and you take it to an extent well beyond merely "talking smack" as you call it. If you're so damned smart, why do you keep getting in trouble for the same thing?

If you would like to continue playing, you must complete an unban essay consisting of "500 words that aren't offensive." We're not convinced you can do that without being sarcastic or accusatory.

The exact subject will be left up to you, but keep in mind that we're the ones you're trying to beseech. I'd recommend sticking to something along the lines of why there are rules against being an outspoken and incorrigible hothead.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Smoothrich on August 30, 2012, 08:54:57 am
Hope you write the essay and come back with just less uses of things like calling people a bundle of sticks with every other line and trying 2 take on the entire community in a duel not even spook can win

No one minds some smack talking and stuff every once in a while but you've been insidious to the point that most humor or fun has left your chat messages, and reviewing the chat logs its mostly unfunny gibberish mixed with really vulgar language that can be easily percieved as hate speech against gay people, with all of the colorful descriptions of homosexual acts being performed by or to you.

Was hoping this could be dealt with by mutes and warnings and civility but us on the admin team pretty much concluded that you have escalated things recently and consistently with nonstop complaints about you disrupting servers often when no one is around to mute you and you don't chill out.

Yes I agree that talking smack and having fun can be cool and not too bad but you are just some kind of abrasive drunk more often then not making everyone really uncomfortable on the servers when you play.

Not gonna cheer or gloat that you're essay banned but hope you write it and possibly just turn chat off whenever you come back to playing if you can't control your temper and language because its a small community and people have really lost their patience with you being part of it.

gg spookfans etc etc
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Canary on August 30, 2012, 08:36:08 pm
If people are going to continue the unhelpful and immaterial chanting I am going to start issuing mutes.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 30, 2012, 11:48:09 pm
Man, I feel obligated for some unholy reason to put my few cents in here. Once upon a time I really had a thing against spook. He went around insulting a lot of people a lot of the time. I thought he was rude as fuck. I mean, he really IS rude as fuck. But at some point I came to enjoy Spook's company in the server. He's fucking hilarious to me. He's rather intelligent; something very rare for someone as verbose as him. If he was some dumbfuck, I wouldn't stick a centimetre of my neck out for him.

Here's my problem with this ban. I can understand why the ban happened. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out. He got banned for being too rude too much. However, I do not feel that he was banned for a CONCRETE reason. Basically, I do not feel that the rules are concrete enough in this situation. The rule that he has broken is this: "No offensive behavior anywhere. Remember that this is the internet. Don't be insulted if someone calls you an idiot." If this rule were properly enforced, I would say that a solid 1/6 of the cRPG community would be out of here. I saw posted here that one of the problems that many admins had was that he said the word "bundle of sticks" too many times. Well holy shit, if that word is against the rules for being "offensive" or "homophobic", then please enforce it as such or re-think the rules. The problem that I see is that the rules for being "offensive" are not enforced heavily until an ADMIN is offended.

Now, I've had the (sometimes mis)pleasure of playing with dear spook in battle and siege MANY times. I cannot recall one time that he called someone a friend or a spic or any other racial epithet. These terms are obviously off-limits, although once again they are not specifically enumerated in the rules. If you fine folks in charge would simply put into the rules that you cannot utter the word "bundle of sticks" I would stake my extremely meagre finances on a bet that spook would not say the word "bundle of sticks". Spook has followed the rules as they are laid out and how he perceives them, and he has done that to a T.


I'm getting the feeling that this wall o' text is not exactly a coherent one, so let me sum up my rambling thoughts. I believe there are many players that frequent the NA servers that would be banned if the same judgement that was handed to spook were applied to them. I believe that the rules as they are laid out are entirely too vague for this community, which has a tendency to be extremely friendly and kind at times and extremely rude and trollsy at others (whether out of true hostility or in the spirit of having a good time). I believe that there is a large double-standard when it comes to "offending" or "insulting" players vs admins. I also think that it is difficult to gauge someone being "offended". One of the first terms that I learned when I started playing this mod was BAN HE. Many (maybe even most?) players want to see blood, they want to see a ban. If someone says "nigga", tons of players will immediately scream RACIST, BAN. In reality, these players are not in the slightest offended.

Also; I agree with you folks that Spook is a dick. He's rude to people, often-times without sufficient provocation. However, I do not feel that this warrants a permanent ban when many, MANY other players have not had action taken against them.


So uh, you guys have a good day.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Dan lol on August 31, 2012, 12:20:54 am
whats wrong with the admin mute function?
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: OssumPawesome on August 31, 2012, 12:53:53 am
I agree wholeheartedly with sandersson.  If spook had kept to only badmouthing players without admin we wouldn't be having this discussion.  He might have faced penalties - sure.  But a permaban?  I think not.  I have also undergone a metamorphosis in my views on spook.  I used to take crpg wayyy too seriously, and when he would trash talk me after beating the crap out of me it would piss me off to no end.  I've since realized this is a game, and it's for fun.  When spook comes on a server he has a somewhat extreme, but in no way unique path to fun.  He talks shit to people.

One thing I think sandersson is way off on is the number of players trash talking in game.  1/6 is wayyy low balling the figure in my opinion.  If admins were going to seriously enforce offense language including that which offends homosexuals - they'd be saying goodbye to half the damn community.  But they're not.  Admins are mad at spook for the same reason I was once upon a time.  He talked shit after killing them.

But once you learn to do with spook what many have to do with friends irl - turn down everything he says by about 80 percent mentally - you'll realize that he's just another guy playing the same game.  I've come to think he's rather funny, and in a way that fits in with the crpg community.  Trolling after you kill someone is a rather standard practice, and spook adds a little of his own flavor to it.

Lastly, I want to comment on the warning about and deletion of my previous post  "+1 for spook freedom."  This goes to the same point I've been trying to make.  Take a joke.  Ease off a bit.  Warning for something like this?  Come on, admins.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 31, 2012, 12:55:07 am
Quote from: OssumPawesome on August 31, 2012, 12:53:53 am
If spook had kept to only badmouthing players without admin we wouldn't be having this discussion.

But he did badmouth players without admins, see my signature. It was from the complaints of players that resulted in his ban hence him being banned after the fact, and not during the fact with an admin present.

Everytime I play with Spookisland on the server, I have to mute him and even then I get to see the tirade of insults fired back from other players, it is absolutely disruptive and against server rules, and I would have reported him myself if not for other people always doing it for me. I also even with mutes am subjected to his random "get-out-of-my-way/hurry-up" teamwounds.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Sir Ryden on August 31, 2012, 01:01:26 am
I personally think he's funny.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: OssumPawesome on August 31, 2012, 01:01:44 am
Quote from: Tears of Destiny on August 31, 2012, 12:55:07 am
Everytime I play with Spookisland on the server, I have to mute him and even then I get to see the tirade of insults fired back from other players, it is absolutely disruptive and against server rules

Sounds like you fixed your problem clicking mute and then SpookPalace.  Not exactly a major disruption.  Again - offensive language is hardly unique to spook.  I would be rather surprised if you haven't ever called someone a homosexual slur in game.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 31, 2012, 01:04:00 am
Quote from: OssumPawesome on August 31, 2012, 01:01:44 am
I would be rather surprised if you haven't ever called someone a homosexual slur in game.
I actually have never called anyone that, as in my neck of the woods that type of insult "does not fly" as well as being completely nonsensical of an insult in my opinion (Being homosexual is hardly better or worse then being heterosexual, bisexual or asexual or any of the kind, how can it?).
I've called people morons, idiots, and bad, all clearly definable insults, that is all.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: OssumPawesome on August 31, 2012, 01:09:19 am
Again with this nonsense?  You people are ridiculous.  So many are acting like spook is the first to grace the server with the word bundle of sticks.  Be serious.  He isn't.  In fact I'd say homosexual slurs are among the most common phrases in chat.  Because its a video game played by western english-speaking young people.  He did it too many times maybe, but all he's guilty of can be fixed with a handy in-game mute.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: LIMB on August 31, 2012, 01:16:57 am
Misogyny and sexism are rampant in crpg, just yesterday someone called me a bundle of sticks literally 10 times straight in 30 seconds. Whatever, I can get behind trying to clean up the worst of it, but Spook is hardly the worst of it.

This is just some mods banning Spook because they got banned after he killed them and talked shit or whatever. The same standard bullshit that happens in comp. games everywhere, where mods are rarely the best players.

Mods, exercise your agendas in-game, not through petty bullshit out-of-game.

#freespook
#praisehim
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Smoothrich on August 31, 2012, 01:18:53 am
Chat abuse such as consistent harassment, slurs, hate speech, is all specifically against the code of conduct of the official servers that you need to oblige with if you want to play on them, rules set by the dev team of the mod who pay for the servers out of pocket.

Not really much to it.  Dude has been warned and muted endlessly and just because some people think "yeah whatever not too big of a deal" doesn't mean a lot of others might just not want to come back to cRPG if they experience nonstop vitriol in the chat on servers by the same people day in day out.

Spook isn't permabanned he just needs to write an essay about you know not being a dick all the time and maybe he and others posting here can realize that some people really would prefer not to hear nonstop awful things in chat on a daily basis, mute function existing or not.

And to say that its because he insulted admins that got him banned is a joke.  Do you realize how often we (trust me I know this personally) get insulted because our actions are magnified cuz like 50 people play this game and most seem to suffer from a kind of autism or simply love to troll?  I don't give 2 damns about Spook insulting me in game or on the forums.  That has nothing to do with server policy though, and with the amount of complaints and disruption Spook causes something had to be done.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Bobthehero on August 31, 2012, 01:27:36 am
Good riddance imo.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: jasonjay543 on August 31, 2012, 01:41:42 am
I agree, the thing with "bundle of sticks" is never going to stop, no matter how many bans are given out. Just cracking down on Spook is only going to escalate an argument.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Smoothrich on August 31, 2012, 01:43:44 am
The word "bundle of sticks" isn't on trial here.  A player with a long ban history who has ignored repeated warnings to cease or change his behaviour and has been the center of at least a dozen ban requests/incidents in the past 2 weeks is.

edit:  and it isn't a trial the corrupt admintatorship clearly just got "taken to school" one too many times by spook and had to ban him to preserve our kds
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Swagbath on August 31, 2012, 01:44:49 am
Spook is a dickhead.. he deserved to get banned
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Canary on August 31, 2012, 02:33:58 am
To reiterate, he wasn't just trash talking one person. He wasn't just calling people "bundle of stickss" and leaving it at that.

This is the day's worth of logs I went through that resulted in his ban. Tears mentioned it before, Smoothrich summed up the situation pretty well. These are the things a player who has already been banned twice for chat abuse said in just one day on this game.

(click to show/hide)

edit: if you guys simply must discuss the ins-and-outs of this situation, post in this thread (http://forum.meleegaming.com/spam/spook-island-banned-indefinitely-on-na/) on the spam board. Stop making irrelevant posts here!
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: OssumPawesome on August 31, 2012, 03:25:41 am
wanting to have spook unbanned is not relevant to the thread entitled Unban SpookPalace?  :?
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: dreadnok on August 31, 2012, 03:33:17 am
i never understood why people just cant mute someone bugging them. so silly.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Darkkarma on August 31, 2012, 04:09:39 am
Look at all of these people playing devils advocate in this thread. I think the most important rule here that people are forgetting is the whole "common sense" clause that's the first thing listed in the rules. Spook has played for a long time and has built up a hefty reputation for being a chat abusing, vitriolic asshole. Theres nothing wrong with being highly opinionated, but when it gets to the point where you are constantly muted, warned and complained about by a vast majority of the player base then logic should dictate. Lets also not forget that it is incredibly hard to get banned from this game once for excessive chat abuse, let alone multiple times. This isn't a guy that just undermines a few admin decisions. This is a guy that undermines an entire community of players on a  daily basis.  As far as the mute button goes, this isnt some annoying kid who occasionally cries and  whines in chat when things don't go his way. This isn't even a farmer nate(a funny rager) we are talking about here. AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY shouldn't have to mute one person for the exact same reasons. If you really hate interacting with the community that much then god damn, just disable chat. The worst part is that spook is actually a very intelligent,grown ass man that's perfectly capable of making rational decisions and knowing right from wrong. He just chooses to be a stubborn troll asshole on a daily basis hell bent on pushing the envelope when it comes to abusing chat and pushing the buttons of the rest of the people in this community; only this time, he went to far and got hit hard for it. If anyone needs to write an apologetic essay, its this guy.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: raccoonlord on August 31, 2012, 04:39:08 am
I never really had a problem with spook...at first. He would throw racist and homophobic comments here and their but I figured it was just trolling around. Then he continued to insult and provoke people for no reason. I was surprised at how easy it is to come up with a comeback to his "insults". As Bonesaw once said, "Your material is getting old" and it's true. He needs moar OC.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: isatis on August 31, 2012, 04:49:25 am
oh wow...

just read all the chat history...

wow

I usually love playing with spook because his insult normally don't fall for stereotype like that...

but that... it's just painful to watch... shit talk non stop for 2 hours... I mean big shit talk... if this guy said that in public (in canada) he could have been arrested...

I mean, it's Internet, ''bundle of sticks'' is sure gonna be used... but 2 hours of non stop bundle of sticks joke... please atleast get some originality!

RIP spookfan... our spook has destroyed his brain cell too much and has now regressed to mindless 10 years old CoD player...

Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Canary on August 31, 2012, 05:31:42 am
STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD IF YOU DO NOT HAVE SOMETHING DIRECTLY RELEVANT TO SAY ABOUT THE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE FOR WHICH SPOOK ISLAND WAS BANNED.

Saying "I like spook island he shouldn't be banned" or "I am glad he's banned" is not relevant information. We also do not need unrelated average Joe opinions about the rules put here.

I have linked a place where it is okay for you to voice those opinions (http://forum.meleegaming.com/spam/spook-island-banned-indefinitely-on-na/), so go there if you must say something.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: TugBoat on August 31, 2012, 05:48:51 am
I was there during the trolling, as evidenced by the chat logs.

While what Spook said is "Technically" against the rules, you have to look at intent as well as popular culture. I think the thing he is MOST guilty of if anything is spam.

Saying "bundle of sticks" does not equal homophobic speech. The term, which I do not use myself, is something that has been morphed to mean something similar to "Sissy nerdling" in not such a serious tone. Fuck is also a word that gets tossed around a lot that has lost a lot of its meaning. Spook probably watches a lot of HBO or went to an inner city highschool.

I did not get the feeling that Spook was being intentionally abusive. I think that he was perhaps trying to be amusing while losing as a way to keep sanity. Spook usually uses great tactics and is a great asset to his team. He knows how to lock down objections. I think he was humorously exaggerating his anger, in the same manner as a Chris Rock standup act or that Jewish guy with the weird voice. Taken out of context by someone who really doesn't know Spook I can see how the language is bad. Spook hates on my clan a lot. He always calls us out and insults us. KUTT was rolling deep during these logs, and none of us felt like he was being intentionally abusive towards anyone, homophobic, or trying to break the rules. I think he was having a good laugh and trying to make others laugh.

I think that if Spook were to offer an apology and promise to scale back some of the harsh language, for those of us who have delicate sensibilities, that would suffice?
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Oberyn on August 31, 2012, 06:16:57 am
Quote from: Canary on August 31, 2012, 02:33:58 am

(click to show/hide)
Seems like totally normal NA chat to me.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Canary on August 31, 2012, 06:33:13 am
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Blatant, literal homophobia. It's not just the one word, Tugboat.

There's also the insistent "baby dicks" and "inbred" comments. The problem is that it's constant trolling of not only the entire server, but singling out anyone who tries to call him on being a prick for doing it. The fact that it's done using some of the most offensive and/or insulting language possible is almost besides the damned point. I refer you to the following:

Quote
No abuse of in-game chat (racism, insulting, griefing...)

Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: TugBoat on August 31, 2012, 08:40:09 am
Quote from: Canary on August 31, 2012, 06:33:13 am
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Blatant, literal homophobia. It's not just the one word, Tugboat.

There's also the insistent "baby dicks" and "inbred" comments. The problem is that it's constant trolling of not only the entire server, but singling out anyone who tries to call him on being a prick for doing it. The fact that it's done using some of the most offensive and/or insulting language possible is almost besides the damned point. I refer you to the following:

I do think it is sarcastic in nature, but I understand this is the most recent of many chances he's been given. I think if we're going to treat Spook's harassment this harshly we should treat all harassment in a similar manner. Yes Spook's harassment was spammy in nature, but I think a personal attack against ANYONE regardless of who it's from should be treated the same or it's just going to continue. I don't know why we're trying to teach Spook a lesson while others can get away with it at the same time if they don't do it quite as often as him. Unacceptable behavior should be unacceptable for all with the same consequences across the board. This isn't LA or Boston or my home town, all should be treated fairly by the law.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Aiyasha on August 31, 2012, 10:19:28 am
You're not going to convince them to unban him by arguing about it here. Your efforts are better spent elsewhere doing something different. Canary has made up his mind and you're not going to change it through semantics.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Rumblood on August 31, 2012, 01:40:02 pm
Quote from: TugBoat on August 31, 2012, 08:40:09 am
I do think it is sarcastic in nature, but I understand this is the most recent of many chances he's been given. I think if we're going to treat Spook's harassment this harshly we should treat all harassment in a similar manner. Yes Spook's harassment was spammy in nature, but I think a personal attack against ANYONE regardless of who it's from should be treated the same or it's just going to continue. I don't know why we're trying to teach Spook a lesson while others can get away with it at the same time if they don't do it quite as often as him. Unacceptable behavior should be unacceptable for all with the same consequences across the board. This isn't LA or Boston or my home town, all should be treated fairly by the law.

The server guidelines for behavior contain several grey areas that require human judgement and common sense. We won't be making them black and white and robo-responses simply because Spook has made a spectacle of himself. I don't think you quite understand how very difficult it is to receive a permanent ban in this community. Even now he hasn't been permanently banned. This is not something that can result from a single or couple of Admins having a vendetta.
I'm happy that we appear to have a single united front as NA Admins. That is how we want it. But you really have no idea of some of the heated arguments that can take place over decisions and guidelines for behavior.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Cepeshi on August 31, 2012, 02:03:04 pm
Smart or not, you dont go hours and hours shittalking without consequences.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Arathian on August 31, 2012, 03:39:02 pm
This whole thing is silly. Spook doesn't team wound or break any rules that can ACTUALLY affect you. You can always ignore the chat or even mute spook.

I have called people bundle of stickss endless times, I have even called a couple things even more offensive. Yeah, boooOOOOOOooooo, language! It is scary!

I don't buy into the whole "mods do it to protect their asses" though, especially people like Canary and smoothrich who I deeply respect. Still, seriously guys, this is rediculus. Words are meaningless. People can ignore them and if they don't, their bloody problem. Maybe you could argue that he spams the chat with useless shit, but then the logical conclusion is to ban all irrelevant chit-chat that is roughly 90% of the actual chat.

And I won't even go to the territory of what is "offensive", which is completely meaningless. People can get offended by anything. Muslims are offended by penises that look like Allah, Christians are offended by homosexuality, homos are offended by Christians, Turks are offended by Greeks and visa versa.

You tell him he should write 500 non offensive words? Well, tough luck, not many words are not offensive to EVERYONE. Maybe he shouldn't mention evolution or dinosaurs either?
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: rustyspoon on August 31, 2012, 04:56:32 pm
Spook doesn't bother me personally, but I see why he was banned.

People are looking at this the wrong way. He wasn't banned for his language. He was banned for creating a hostile environment, especially for new players.

It's not that he's making negative comments, it's that he never stops making negative comments and will mercilessly target individuals in the server.

Mods really need to lock this thread.
Title: Re: Unban SpookPalace
Post by: Muki on August 31, 2012, 05:03:25 pm
Quote from: Canary
If you would like to continue playing, you must complete an unban essay consisting of "500 words that aren't offensive." We're not convinced you can do that without being sarcastic or accusatory.

Link for Discussion
I have linked a place where it is okay for you to voice those opinions (http://forum.meleegaming.com/spam/spook-island-banned-indefinitely-on-na/), so go there if you must say something.

Locking Thread Spook can post a new Topic for his Unban Essay.