Communism has nice ideas but they do not go well with human nature and it will therefore forever fail.Well if you purge enough it can work.
I was wondering what you'r guy's favorite type of communism is. I prefer Stalinism myself. You'r thoughts?
dude you are so fucked up on brain then I will not even -1I'm sorry I don't speak whiny bitch ^.^
stupid american fat twat macdonald
I'm sorry I don't speak whiny bitch ^.^
Stalin got his country into space even after the long period of poverty that was plaguing Eastern Europe. You can't argue with the results. Although the expenses ... =/
Communism wasn't intended to be totalitarian like Stalin had turned it into. Just a society owned by the proletariat.
Fuck you Gomer, your trollish fuck is just so poor, go get some burgers and leave us alone.
Oh man, I LOVE burgers. All I have to eat right now is a muffin. :(
Oh man, I LOVE burgers. All I have to eat right now is a muffin. :(
Oh man, I LOVE burgers. All I have to eat right now is a muffin. :(
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Look at it(click to show/hide)
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Mute Gomer.
Mute Gomer.
Mute Gomer.
That's something a communist would do :wink:Democratic way isn't fast enough in this situation. We have to call in National Security!
Have to disagree with that.
Let him talk and just down vote him, democratic style.
einstein was a communist, right guys?
einstein was a communist, right guys?
Communism may not be the worst ideology in theory. But in reality it is by far the worst.You can't use the fact that millions were killed by people that called themselves communists to value an ideology that does not justify any of these actions. The people are to blame, not the ideology, which is rather sound in theory. Marx was an optimist though, we've all seen how well it works in practice though, certain individuals are to blame for that though, not the ideology.
Don't even mention YMCA. That's nothing in comparison with communism.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM
oh dear god, please do not turn this into a "fuck america" thread. Ya'll realize that if it weren't for american democracy and capitalism that most of the world would be living under a chocolate chip cookie or stalinistic totalitarian regime? Yeah smooth, we ain't perfect. Show me a country that is and we can all move there. In the meantime though, why don't you and everyone else quit thinking you have some sort of right to endlessly bitch about the country that has pulled the rest of the world from the brink of chaos multiple times. Instead, why don't you, just once, consider being grateful for all the shit that we've done for you.
Oh wait, yeah I forgot, you do have that right. BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN AMERICA YOU UNGRATEFUL PESSIMISTIC LITTLE SHITS!
oh dear god, please do not turn this into a "fuck america" thread. Ya'll realize that if it weren't for american democracy and capitalism that most of the world would be living under a chocolate chip cookie or stalinistic totalitarian regime? Yeah smooth, we ain't perfect. Show me a country that is and we can all move there. In the meantime though, why don't you and everyone else quit thinking you have some sort of right to endlessly bitch about the country that has pulled the rest of the world from the brink of chaos multiple times. Instead, why don't you, just once, consider being grateful for all the shit that we've done for you.
Oh wait, yeah I forgot, you do have that right. BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN AMERICA YOU UNGRATEFUL PESSIMISTIC LITTLE SHITS!
People living under communism are generaly poor.
communism is fine for poor countries to improve themselves to the others' level,
You're missing the point, communist countries are poor because theres no reason for a single citizen to work more if they all get the same reward. That's why it doesn't work. Now in democratic or 'imperialistic' coutries, people have the freedom and the tools to do whatever they want in life, this is what fuels their economy.
oh dear god, please do not turn this into a "fuck america" thread. Ya'll realize that if it weren't for american democracy and capitalism that most of the world would be living under a chocolate chip cookie or stalinistic totalitarian regime? Yeah smooth, we ain't perfect. Show me a country that is and we can all move there. In the meantime though, why don't you and everyone else quit thinking you have some sort of right to endlessly bitch about the country that has pulled the rest of the world from the brink of chaos multiple times. Instead, why don't you, just once, consider being grateful for all the shit that we've done for you.
You're missing the point, communist countries are poor because theres no reason for a single citizen to work more if they all get the same reward. That's why it doesn't work. Now in democratic or 'imperialistic' coutries, people have the freedom and the tools to do whatever they want in life, this is what fuels their economy.
So this is why "communist countries are poor"? Can you cite your sources, please? Give examples?
Does this mean that poor people shouldn't be entitled to welfare benefits either, because then they would have no incentive to improve their lives? Because some people really believe this, even if tens of thousands of people die annually due to no healthcare insurance in America alone, and economic recession fueled by the reckless selfishness of banks and businesses has left millions unemployed.
Infamy whore
Let's put it this way:
Communism has always resulted to countries being shitholes, no exceptions.
Capitalism has resulted in some countries being shitholes, mostly countries being rediculusly rich, more so than at any point in their past history.
Some times the same countries, divided by 2, end up shitholes on the communist part, but super rich on the capitalist part (n. Korea vs S. Korea, West vs East Germany, Hong Kong vs pre-90's China etc)
yeah your absolutely right, we aren't innocent virgins. We are the most powerful country in the world and we've used that power to benefit our countrymen without murdering millions of minorities/religious groups. Looking at the history of the world and the history of the most powerful nations in the world's past, I'd say that's a pretty damn good accomplishment.
I'm proud of this country, I'm proud of our accomplishments, and I'm proud that we do not force our populace to put on the blinders and that we accept our flaws and are still able to maintain a sense of morality and consciousness despite having the power to force our will on the rest of the world.
Actually, North Korea was wildly successful compared to South Korea until the 70s, under state directed economic development. South Korea was one of the poorest nations in the world while North Korea saw amazing success, until South Korea started integrating more into a globalized economy, while North Korea suffered isolationism and mismanagement.
Economics and social policy can't be trivialized into "being given equal opportunities will make everyone lazy" and using that argument as the crux of anti-communism is just silly. Its also a terrible strawman used to argue against social support networks like unemployment, nationalized healthcare, unions, workers rights and child labor laws, and so on. E.g. "welfare queens."
And its funny when you say capitalism can make countries ridiculously rich, when usually its just a very very select few being ridiculously rich, while millions are born poor and die poor with little chance to do anything about it regardless of the GDP and low low corporate tax rates. Most frustratingly in America is how the amazingly rich can get away with paying less taxes then middle and lower class families due to exploiting the self-serving system (laws by the rich for the rich campaign donors). Its to the point in some American cities that they literally can no longer afford fire or police departments, and the mere suggestion of raising or reforming tax so the successes of the few can help the many will make you unelectable.
Complete state control of economic development of course ends in failure, but the main point I want to make in this thread is that free-market capitalism should be tempered with social justice and equality in order to create an ideal society. Businesses have the right to make money, but every person should have the right to fair living wages, health care, and citizenship. These things should not be mutually exclusive. In many Americans' eyes however, it is.
You`re talking about "we". At what point YOU contributed to it (despite the fact that your opinion is err...pretty patriotic.. :D)
I would have joined the marines out of high school if I could have. Sadly enough I've been a type1 diabetic since I was 8 and that option was taken from me accordingly. My father was a sergeant in the green berets during vietnam and my grandfather a private in the italian campaign during WWII. My family has greatly contributed to this country and I have contributed in a small way by applying (waiting for a response) to the peace corps and assisting my community in a small way through the masons. Please don't question my contributions. I consider myself a very supportive and patriotic american and I believe my actions have gone towards proving this.
I would have joined the marines out of high school if I could have. Sadly enough I've been a type1 diabetic since I was 8 and that option was taken from me accordingly. My father was a sergeant in the green berets during vietnam and my grandfather a private in the italian campaign during WWII. My family has greatly contributed to this country and I have contributed in a small way by applying (waiting for a response) to the peace corps and assisting my community in a small way through the masons. Please don't question my contributions. I consider myself a very supportive and patriotic american and I believe my actions have gone towards proving this.
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Communism works better than democracy. In all democracies money=power. Look at that bitch rineheart i would kill that pig if a had the chance. Already controls the government, bathes in gold, controls the workforce, is declared a hero and is buying into the media. I would like to see that fat bitch earn $1 like workers have to. On top of all that she has managed to manipulate the government to decrease the number of australian skilled workers in the future so that cheap foreign labour is justified.
die bitch die
I don't even see why you need to apologize quite honestly. Jokes and "herpderp hamburger-eatting machines" aside, America has been overall a positive force in the world. Yes, it has its faults. Yes, Iraq was a wrong war. Yes, attacking Iran will be idiotic, but if the US hadn't, for example, helped South Korea can you imagine how many more Koreans would suffer today? Or if the USA hadn't protected my country, Greece how much more in shit would we be today? (yes, I am not even joking). Or if the US hadn't entered the war and Russia had taken over mainland Europe and turned it all into "eastern block"?
The world would be a worse one today. Be proud of what you are.
Fuck you Gomer, your trollish fuck is just so poor, go get some burgers and leave us alone.A) Burgers are awesome
Communism was never intended to be nothing more than a thought.never...nothing?
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A) Burgers are awesome
Word :!:I had a hot dog today and I could think was... Damn I wish this was a burger.
I had a hot dog today and I could think was... Damn I wish this was a burger.
I know bro.Fries are good as well...
Yesterday I ate a cheeseburger and couldn't stop wishing it was a double cheeseburger.
never...nothing?
double negative = positive?
Communism may not be the worst ideology in theory. But in reality it is by far the worst.
Don't even mention YMCA. That's nothing in comparison with communism.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM
Word.
That is something we can both agree on.
I just hope people stop electing her and Clive Palmers cronies. Newman won the election in Queensland by basically only saying "I'm not that other guy!" and for the last 4 months the dude has just smashed and destroyed everything he can. Any organization that isn't heavily involved or investing in his political party has had it's funding either reduced substantially or cut all together, his a pro at being a dick head.
Him and Abbot are best bum buddies too so it makes me a bit terrified to think what will happen if that flake gets in charge, especially with his biggoted idiotic rhetoric about China and foreign ownership of land.
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99% of the forums are reading this ^ and thinking... what's who now?
You can't use the fact that millions were killed by people that called themselves communists to value an ideology that does not justify any of these actions. The people are to blame, not the ideology, which is rather sound in theory. Marx was an optimist though, we've all seen how well it works in practice though, certain individuals are to blame for that though, not the ideology.
Condemn totalitarianism, not communism.
"Communism" is plainly false and empty rhetoric that has been primarily used to justify totalitarian regimes that strip away individual liberty and dignity, hijacking the valid concern of equality and the dangers of unchecked capitalism.
Instead people should turn to platforms of social democracy, government mandated systems that ensure equal social rights like education, healthcare, unions, and no discrimination based on gender race religion or orientation, founded in the post-Marxist liberal socialism school of thought.
The "welfare state" is the derogatory term for this kind of system but I think it would be more accurate to say "Not putting corporate interests and individual wealth above the prosperity of an entire people" State instead.
Sadly America veers hard right of this line of thought, because our right-wing citizens are so absurdly backwards, our "conservative" politicians can hijack their barbaric positions on social issues to blindside their base with an entirely profit/corporation driven agenda that does more to deprive these commonly uneducated, underemployed citizens of fulfilling lives (no healthcare, no jobs, no education, no credit) then gays getting married or women getting birth control ever could.
Socialist thought is way out of the mainstream in America, and in fact is some sort of boogey man. President Obama managing to pass through a watered down, practically inconsequential baby steps of health care reform so that insurance companies can't literally drop you causing you to die the moment you get too sick and some other things, doing this has branded him an Islamic Fascist Socialist Communist friend to at least 1/3 of America, most of which don't even believe he is American and would probably spit on him/kill him if they had the chance.
Fuck America, and fuck you Gomer.